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#989082 - 10/23/09 12:51 PM Sherron....a genetic freak?
dos_hequis Offline
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Registered: 02/19/09
Loc: Austin, TX
Big 12

Posted by Dana O'Neil

KANSAS CITY -- The first couple of weeks Sherron Collins was on the Kansas campus as a freshman, he hit the weight room with the rest of his teammates.

Two weeks later, he had tacked on seven pounds of muscle mass.

"I just said, 'OK, whoa, that's enough of that," said KU coach Bill Self, stunned at Collins' bionic growth.

Ever since, the 5-foot-11 guard has received a weightlifting dispensation, exchanging heavy lifting for an extra cardio workout.

Blessed with the body of Mighty Mouse, the neck of Popeye and a set of six-pack abs that David Beckham would envy, Collins is something of a genetic freak.

Despite the weightlifting hiatus, Collins remains ridiculously strong, continuously shocking -- and annoying -- to his teammates with his Paul Bunyan efforts.

"I walked in from doing my cardio one day when they were lifting and I asked what was the most a guard had bench-pressed that day," Collins said. "They said 265. I told them to put 270 on. I sat down and did it."

Self said on a recent pass through in the weight room, Collins spied his teammates doing chin-ups with 40-pound weights strapped to their ankles.

"So he starts giving them crap and someone says, 'OK, let's see you do it, Sherron,'" Self said. "I think they were doing like five. What's he do? He goes over, does 10, gives them a look and keeps going."

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=4587371

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#989083 - 10/23/09 12:54 PM Re: Sherron....a genetic freak? [Re: dos_hequis]
dos_hequis Offline
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Registered: 02/19/09
Loc: Austin, TX
Just thought it was funny with his weight seeming to always be an issue with some people.

Maybe it wasn't because he was letting himself go, but that he was working too hard in the weight room? lol

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#989084 - 10/23/09 01:14 PM Re: Sherron....a genetic freak? [Re: dos_hequis]
AdonisJordan Offline
Max Falkenstien

Registered: 02/10/07
Loc: Lawrence
Awesome. Good post.
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#989085 - 10/23/09 02:13 PM Re: Sherron....a genetic freak? [Re: AdonisJordan]
aberry33 Offline
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Registered: 11/23/05
Man.

Some of the quotes that have been coming from the athletic department regarding working out have been pretty laughable.

7 pounds of muscle in two weeks?

Okay.

I also enjoyed the (one of the Morris twins maybe?) player talking about working out and eating right to gain muscle and I think the first thing they talked about eating was peanut butter and jelly sandwiches.
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#989086 - 10/23/09 02:36 PM Re: Sherron....a genetic freak? [Re: aberry33]
hawks82 Offline
Baby Jay

Registered: 07/01/09
hate to break it to you, but 7 pounds of muscle isnt impossible...worked in the gold's in St Louis for a few years and I've seen two week gains very similar to that at least 5-6 times a year.

Its not like losing weight, there are so many muscles in your body that gaining even 5 percent muscle mass on every muscle you train would get you close to 10 pounds. Genetics are a huge contributing factor.


Edited by hawks82 (10/23/09 02:39 PM)

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#989087 - 10/23/09 02:39 PM Re: Sherron....a genetic freak? [Re: hawks82]
JFish26 Offline
Max Falkenstien

Registered: 03/17/05
Loc: KC, MO
There's not that many people walking around with 200 pounds of muscle.
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#989088 - 10/23/09 02:40 PM Re: Sherron....a genetic freak? [Re: JFish26]
dos_hequis Offline
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Registered: 02/19/09
Loc: Austin, TX
200 lbs of muscle? how much would that person weigh all together with bones, organs, etc?

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#989089 - 10/23/09 02:42 PM Re: Sherron....a genetic freak? [Re: dos_hequis]
JFish26 Offline
Max Falkenstien

Registered: 03/17/05
Loc: KC, MO
No idea. But if someone gained 10 pounds of muscle by adding 5% to all of their muscle, they'd need to start at 200.
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#989090 - 10/23/09 02:42 PM Re: Sherron....a genetic freak? [Re: JFish26]
hawks82 Offline
Baby Jay

Registered: 07/01/09
since when is 7 pounds at 5 percent 200 pounds of muscle? a guy walking around at 205 im sure has close to 140 pounds of muscle on his body or somewhat close to it.

read the post again...it never once said exactly 10 pounds...I said close to 10 pounds implying the original 7 pound feat.

the whole point wasnt supposed to be exact science...i love how some people completely lose the point in totally unimportant details...the point is its nowhere near impossible for someone of Sherron's size and genetics to pack on 7 pounds in 2 weeks...I've seen it first hand.


Edited by hawks82 (10/23/09 02:45 PM)

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#989091 - 10/23/09 02:43 PM Re: Sherron....a genetic freak? [Re: hawks82]
JFish26 Offline
Max Falkenstien

Registered: 03/17/05
Loc: KC, MO
Quote:

gaining even 5 percent muscle mass on every muscle you train would get you close to 10 pounds.




I was responding to this.
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#989092 - 10/23/09 02:49 PM Re: Sherron....a genetic freak? [Re: JFish26]
Hawklin Offline
Justin Ray Giddens

Registered: 03/27/05
Not the muscle talk again! That one dude said you can only gain 1 pound a year!
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#989093 - 10/23/09 02:52 PM Re: Sherron....a genetic freak? [Re: Hawklin]
hawks82 Offline
Baby Jay

Registered: 07/01/09
lol

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#989094 - 10/23/09 02:55 PM Re: Sherron....a genetic freak? [Re: Hawklin]
georgiahawk Offline
John Brown

Registered: 08/05/05
Hawklin's right. Why don't you d'bags stop using facts to correct a great article. Nobody gives a [censored] about physiology (don't even know if that's spelled right or the correct term).

Geez. The least you could of done is pop a woody like me and enjoy the fact that Sherron is a beast.
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#989095 - 10/23/09 03:06 PM Re: Sherron....a genetic freak? [Re: georgiahawk]
kuman Offline
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Registered: 03/25/08
Wow, he's buff.
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#989096 - 10/23/09 03:06 PM Re: Sherron....a genetic freak? [Re: kuman]
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Registered: 08/05/05
Thank you.
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#989097 - 10/23/09 03:40 PM OK all you experts.... [Re: georgiahawk]
larryb Offline
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This was the question I asked someone I work with who probably knows more about weight lifting and body building than any of you (including Hawklin) pretend to.

"I heard you are home sick with the flu. I hope you are ok. I was wondering if it is possible for a college athlete to gain seven pounds of "muscle mass" in two weeks"?

This was his response.....

Hey Gutter- The most amount of muscle mass someone could conceivably gain in 2 weeks is about 2-3 lbs of muscle. That would be pretty incredible though since most top athletes can only gain 2-3 pounds of muscle per month. Generally when you hear a commentator say someone put on 20lbs of muscle in the offseason the person actually put on maybe 10 lbs of muscle and 10 lbs of fat but the added muscle makes them look way bigger. Hope this helps and let me know if you have any more questions about it.

Joe

By the way, this is Joe........100% Natural too.

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#989098 - 10/23/09 03:47 PM Re: OK all you experts.... [Re: larryb]
georgiahawk Offline
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Registered: 08/05/05
Not only did the article about Sherron give me a boner but the pic of Joe just sent me over the edge.
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#989099 - 10/23/09 03:48 PM Re: OK all you experts.... [Re: georgiahawk]
hasbeen Offline
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Registered: 06/23/05
Why is gutter still here?
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#989100 - 10/23/09 03:49 PM Re: OK all you experts.... [Re: georgiahawk]
dos_hequis Offline
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Definitely not the direction I thought this thread would go when I posted the article. lol.

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#989101 - 10/23/09 03:52 PM Re: OK all you experts.... [Re: hasbeen]
georgiahawk Offline
John Brown

Registered: 08/05/05
Quote:

Why is gutter still here?




Because he refuses to take your advice?
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#989102 - 10/23/09 04:00 PM Re: OK all you experts.... [Re: georgiahawk]
larryb Offline
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Registered: 05/02/07
Loc: Work
Thanks for quoting him georgia. That was a good answer to his question.

Now back to more fish stories about KU athletes......
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#989103 - 10/23/09 04:05 PM Re: OK all you experts.... [Re: larryb]
georgiahawk Offline
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Registered: 08/05/05
Look, I'm bipartisan here. Much love for both the gutman and hasbeen.

And, I didn't quote him.

edit: actually, I quoted him in this bbs world but not his signature. now, blow me.


Edited by georgiahawk (10/23/09 04:06 PM)
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#989104 - 10/23/09 04:07 PM Re: Sherron....a genetic freak? [Re: dos_hequis]
track Offline
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Registered: 01/18/06
Loc: Topeka,Kansas
Body water
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


In medicine, body water is all of the water content of the human body. A significant fraction of the human body is water. Lean muscle tissue contains about 99% water by weight. Blood contains 2% water, body fat contains 1/2% water and bone has 97% water. Skin also contains much water. The human body is about 60% water in adult males and 55% in adult females.



So just drink a bunch of water and you can gain muscle size...LOL

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#989105 - 10/23/09 04:11 PM Re: Sherron....a genetic freak? [Re: track]
georgiahawk Offline
John Brown

Registered: 08/05/05
My muscle mass fluctuates - - in the morning, I have much more blood than water in my pole which should subtract at least 6lbs from my overall body weight.

Did that make sense? No? It didn't to me either but it's about a boner so it's funny.
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#989106 - 10/23/09 04:12 PM Re: OK all you experts.... [Re: larryb]
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I'd like to make a couple points about kids gaining weight.
At this point they aren't completely physically mature yet. They probably won't grow taller but they haven't finished filling out yet. After the season ends most have probably lost weight throughout the season and some of is just a return to normal. Couple that with supervised weightroom work and plenty of calories, and it's not surprising that they can gain mass rather quickly.
On a personal level I went to Boot Camp at about 170 pounds and 12 weeks later it was 195 and I was in a helluva lot better shape.
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#989107 - 10/23/09 04:12 PM Re: Sherron....a genetic freak? [Re: track]
SashasVodka Offline
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Registered: 05/01/08
Loc: KC
10 pullups with 40 lbs of weights hanging from your ankles while giving the stare of death to everyone in the room = awesome.
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#989108 - 10/23/09 05:03 PM Re: Sherron....a genetic freak? [Re: SashasVodka]
DCHawk1 Offline
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Registered: 01/29/07
Loc: District of Columbia
F*cking kid reminds me of me at his age...
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#989109 - 10/23/09 05:29 PM Re: Sherron....a genetic freak? [Re: DCHawk1]
Phogman Offline
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Registered: 12/22/04
Collins is a type of guy I hate, a mesomorph. If he wasn't a basketball player and was a running back instead he'd probably be putting up 400 on the rack. W/ that said, I'm still pleased to say that as it is, I am stronger than Sherron Collins as a ectomorph

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#989110 - 10/23/09 05:31 PM Re: Sherron....a genetic freak? [Re: Phogman]
Phogman Offline
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Registered: 12/22/04
BTW, who was the other guard that can bench 265? None of them look like they can do it, unless Teahan or X is being considered.

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#989111 - 10/23/09 05:35 PM Re: Sherron....a genetic freak? [Re: Phogman]
Geezer Offline
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Registered: 01/08/06
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Reed is usually the conditioning king.
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#989112 - 10/23/09 05:40 PM Re: Sherron....a genetic freak? [Re: Geezer]
georgiahawk Offline
John Brown

Registered: 08/05/05
Quote:

Reed is usually the conditioning king.




The Geezer got it right.

Always the white boys that win the insignificant honors.
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#989113 - 10/23/09 05:45 PM Re: Sherron....a genetic freak? [Re: georgiahawk]
track Offline
gale sayers

Registered: 01/18/06
Loc: Topeka,Kansas
I just heard an ad on TV that if you have an erection more than 8 hours call your doctor.

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#989114 - 10/23/09 05:49 PM Re: Sherron....a genetic freak? [Re: track]
georgiahawk Offline
John Brown

Registered: 08/05/05
My doc wants nothing more to do with my boner. She's enjoyed it far too often. Isn't that right, Shirley?
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#989115 - 10/23/09 09:52 PM Re: OK all you experts.... [Re: larryb]
Hawklin Offline
Justin Ray Giddens

Registered: 03/27/05
Quote:

This was the question I asked someone I work with who probably knows more about weight lifting and body building than any of you (including Hawklin) pretend to.

"I heard you are home sick with the flu. I hope you are ok. I was wondering if it is possible for a college athlete to gain seven pounds of "muscle mass" in two weeks"?

This was his response.....

Hey Gutter- The most amount of muscle mass someone could conceivably gain in 2 weeks is about 2-3 lbs of muscle. That would be pretty incredible though since most top athletes can only gain 2-3 pounds of muscle per month. Generally when you hear a commentator say someone put on 20lbs of muscle in the offseason the person actually put on maybe 10 lbs of muscle and 10 lbs of fat but the added muscle makes them look way bigger. Hope this helps and let me know if you have any more questions about it.

Joe

By the way, this is Joe........100% Natural too.









I called my friend too. Then I took a poll of my office. Results are in. You are 100% homo.
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#989116 - 10/23/09 10:13 PM Re: OK all you experts.... [Re: georgiahawk]
brando Offline
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Registered: 11/13/04
Loc: anywhere there is beer...
Quote:

Look, I'm bipartisan here




does your wife know this?
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#989117 - 10/23/09 10:26 PM Re: OK all you experts.... [Re: brando]
georgiahawk Offline
John Brown

Registered: 08/05/05
She questioned me one time. I told her I slipped. Hey, the lights were off.
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#989118 - 10/24/09 07:10 AM HAWKLIN [Re: georgiahawk]
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Hawklin
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*** You are ignoring this user ***

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You can stop responding to my posts. I don't give a [censored] what you have to say. I am sure your post was nothing more than what you felt was a clever insult.

I have put you and others on ignore only because of the fact that you and others choose to put me down and insult me instead of responding to my posts with something of value. That's your prerogative. I felt it got old and stale.

You are a guy who has a need to try and look up information on people who post on the boards for what reason? Are you not the guy who said you know who I work for because you know my IP address? I don't recall if you were ever a mod but as I said before, you know more about me and who I work for (you even said you know who pays me) than I do. Why? You have searched for information on JDavis and through his social networks to find ways to insult him. Why? Does this make you feel like a better person? In reality it makes you come off as someone who feels they are insignifcant unless they put down others to feel better about themselves. I laugh that EastCoast is another person like yourself who seems to get off on insulting me and others. Ironic since on May 8th of 2008 he sent me a private message which I will not share word for word but the jest of it was he said you were one of the biggest douche bags on the boards and the difference between you and I is that I can admit when I am wrong.
Hey EastCoast - you even told me that you enjoy my posts. LOL!
So Hawklin, go ahead and respond to this post with an insult. I am sure someone will quote you so I can see it. Truth is from today on I believe I care less about you than you do about me.
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#989119 - 10/24/09 08:59 AM Re: HAWKLIN [Re: larryb]
HunterThompson Offline
Baby Jay

Registered: 10/23/06
Loc: Woody Creek, CO
rrrrright.
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#989120 - 10/24/09 09:09 AM Re: HAWKLIN [Re: HunterThompson]
Hawklin Offline
Justin Ray Giddens

Registered: 03/27/05
Best laugh of the week.


This is huge.I wonder who isnt on ignore now. Im going to work hard to get out of the doghouse. Real hard.
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#989121 - 10/24/09 09:09 AM Re: HAWKLIN [Re: Hawklin]
HunterThompson Offline
Baby Jay

Registered: 10/23/06
Loc: Woody Creek, CO
I thought this was his board. Why wouldn't he just ban you?
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#989122 - 10/24/09 09:32 AM Re: HAWKLIN [Re: HunterThompson]
Hawklin Offline
Justin Ray Giddens

Registered: 03/27/05
Its coming. J Davis and gutter will eventually join gay forces and topple my evil empire.
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#989123 - 10/24/09 09:50 AM Re: HAWKLIN [Re: Hawklin]
HunterThompson Offline
Baby Jay

Registered: 10/23/06
Loc: Woody Creek, CO
Nah. They're a little too Sebastian to do that.
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#989124 - 10/24/09 09:52 AM Re: HAWKLIN [Re: Hawklin]
TAXMAN Offline
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Registered: 10/13/09
Loc: Mesquite, TX
Quote:

Best laugh of the week.


This is huge.I wonder who isnt on ignore now. Im going to work hard to get out of the doghouse. Real hard.




To his credit. All you did was insult him in response to his post.

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#989125 - 10/24/09 09:53 AM Re: HAWKLIN [Re: TAXMAN]
HunterThompson Offline
Baby Jay

Registered: 10/23/06
Loc: Woody Creek, CO
Yeah, he sucks......and blows.
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#989126 - 10/24/09 10:20 AM Re: HAWKLIN [Re: HunterThompson]
hasbeen Offline
Zipper Jiggler

Registered: 06/23/05
Gutter is such a loser.
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#989127 - 10/24/09 10:27 AM Re: HAWKLIN [Re: hasbeen]
HunterThompson Offline
Baby Jay

Registered: 10/23/06
Loc: Woody Creek, CO
Seriously, I think he is. I think he also know this. He's as much of a jersey chaser as he accuses others to be.
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#989128 - 10/24/09 01:16 PM Re: Sherron....a genetic freak? [Re: hawks82]
aberry33 Offline
Phog Fanatic

Registered: 11/23/05
Quote:

hate to break it to you, but 7 pounds of muscle isnt impossible...worked in the gold's in St Louis for a few years and I've seen two week gains very similar to that at least 5-6 times a year.

Its not like losing weight, there are so many muscles in your body that gaining even 5 percent muscle mass on every muscle you train would get you close to 10 pounds. Genetics are a huge contributing factor.




Wrong
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#989129 - 10/24/09 02:38 PM Re: HAWKLIN [Re: TAXMAN]
Hawklin Offline
Justin Ray Giddens

Registered: 03/27/05
Quote:

Quote:

Best laugh of the week.


This is huge.I wonder who isnt on ignore now. Im going to work hard to get out of the doghouse. Real hard.




To his credit. All you did was insult him in response to his post.






And why are you hiding in a sock to be a hero?
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#989130 - 10/24/09 02:57 PM Re: HAWKLIN [Re: Hawklin]
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Is there a bigger attention [censored] on this website than Hawklin?
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#989131 - 10/24/09 02:58 PM Re: HAWKLIN [Re: WaHawk04]
Hawklin Offline
Justin Ray Giddens

Registered: 03/27/05
Not a chance.
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#989132 - 10/24/09 03:08 PM Re: HAWKLIN [Re: Hawklin]
WaHawk04 Offline
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Registered: 11/08/06
Quote:

Not a chance.





At least you are proud of it.
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#989133 - 10/24/09 03:09 PM Re: HAWKLIN [Re: WaHawk04]
Hawklin Offline
Justin Ray Giddens

Registered: 03/27/05
Just trying to get by. Its a tough world out there.
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