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#947972 - 09/20/09 09:40 PM Damion Fletcher and Southern Miss.
sdoyel Offline
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Registered: 09/23/03
Loc: Dallas
Southern Miss. is going to be TOUGH. They have a very experienced team heading to Lawrence. Their QB Davis has 5TD and 0INT through 3 games, and their stud RB Fletcher has topped 100 yards in each game. It will be interesting to see how our defense stacks up. They also bring in a very good special teams unit. They have guys capable of taking Kicks and Punts to the house.

This game is making me worried, much like the game at USF last year. A loss would be devastating going into the bye week. We have got to come out ready to play!
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#947973 - 09/20/09 09:47 PM Re: Damion Fletcher and Southern Miss. [Re: sdoyel]
seanr9ne Offline
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Registered: 10/16/07
Loc: KC
DeAndre Brown has been silent for this so far too...coming off of his injury. At 6'6", it will be hard to shut him down if he gets in the zone. I would love to put Patterson on him, but that's like 9" difference, we need Harris, Davis, or Rubles to step up.

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#947974 - 09/20/09 09:52 PM Re: Damion Fletcher and Southern Miss. [Re: seanr9ne]
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Registered: 04/15/03
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Hah! We win by 30. I'm not even going to watch.
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#947975 - 09/20/09 10:02 PM Re: Damion Fletcher and Southern Miss. [Re: Wickedson]
BigD Offline
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Registered: 11/29/02
Southern Miss should be the toughest non-conference game. We need to continue to improve as well. Having said all of that, if we can't beat S. Miss at home then we have no business talking about winning the north.
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#947976 - 09/20/09 10:23 PM Re: Damion Fletcher and Southern Miss. [Re: BigD]
tyler Offline
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Registered: 01/30/07
Loc: Lawrence
I'm done with these negative posts. We have thoroughly rolled through our three opponents without doing anything more than vanilla offense/defense play calls. Our offense has been electric even when our star QB hasn't looked "Todd-like" as many would like to point out. The defense has definitely improved over last year's, and if we can find a CB to step up they could become very good.

Sorry, but I don't see why we must be so negative about a team that has done what we all wanted them to do.. Win and Win handily.
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#947977 - 09/20/09 10:36 PM Re: Damion Fletcher and Southern Miss. [Re: tyler]
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Registered: 04/15/03
Loc: New York, NY
Pfft, enjoy it. KU isn't OK or Texas. Never will be.

Win or lose, we still booze.
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#947978 - 09/20/09 10:38 PM Re: Damion Fletcher and Southern Miss. [Re: tyler]
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Otto Schnellbacher

Registered: 11/22/07
I don't see much negative about KU in this thread.

I see people giving credit to Southern Miss. They are a pretty good team. I'm glad people recognize that.

So. Miss will easily be the strongest team we have faced, especially in the 4th quarter. They seem to get stronger as the game goes along.

I'm confident in the Hawks, but Southern Miss isn't undefeated by accident.
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#947979 - 09/20/09 10:40 PM Re: Damion Fletcher and Southern Miss. [Re: 5DecadeHawk]
JFish26 Offline
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Registered: 03/17/05
Loc: KC, MO
Meh, I don't see what makes Southern Miss that much better than UTEP. We'll dispatch them handily.
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#947980 - 09/20/09 10:43 PM Re: Damion Fletcher and Southern Miss. [Re: JFish26]
Merg311 Offline
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Registered: 08/01/06
Loc: Hays, KS
Quote:

Meh, I don't see what makes Southern Miss that much better than UTEP. We'll dispatch them handily.




As do I. Next year when we go to Hattiesburg, with a new QB at the helm it may be a different story.

Yesterday, a Virginia team with Ron Prince on staff game USM all they could handle, the Cavaliers completely gave the game away in the 2nd half.

KU by 17
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#947981 - 09/20/09 10:45 PM Re: Damion Fletcher and Southern Miss. [Re: Merg311]
JFish26 Offline
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Registered: 03/17/05
Loc: KC, MO
I'd guess closer to 37.
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#947982 - 09/20/09 10:47 PM Re: Damion Fletcher and Southern Miss. [Re: JFish26]
Merg311 Offline
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Registered: 08/01/06
Loc: Hays, KS
Quote:

I'd guess closer to 37.




That would work too.
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#947983 - 09/20/09 10:51 PM Re: Damion Fletcher and Southern Miss. [Re: Merg311]
tyler Offline
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Registered: 01/30/07
Loc: Lawrence
Not necessarily this post, but the whole football board seems to be looking for tiny flaws that we can latch onto and bitch and moan about. I guess it was just the part about comparing this home game against a C-USA team to a road game against a BigEast team. Just looking for some optimism around here I suppose.
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#947984 - 09/20/09 10:56 PM Re: Damion Fletcher and Southern Miss. [Re: tyler]
sdoyel Offline
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Registered: 09/23/03
Loc: Dallas
An EXPERIENCED Conference USA team who DID go 7-6 last season. They've also put a ton of points on the board through 3 games, even if they dug themselves a hole to Virginia.

I don't see any negativity in my own post. Just making some of you aware that So. Miss. is a decent foe to not be taken lightly.

Tyler, I don't get where you say I "compared" this game to USF. I simply said it's making me worried. Chill the f out.
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#947985 - 09/20/09 11:05 PM Re: Damion Fletcher and Southern Miss. [Re: sdoyel]
sdoyel Offline
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Registered: 09/23/03
Loc: Dallas
Some Southern Miss tidbits from yahoo which was posted prior to the game against Virginia:

• The Golden Eagles’ defense has surrendered just one rushing touchdown during their current seven-game winning streak, a 6-yard run by Troy’s Jerrel Jernigan in the third quarter of the 2008 New Orleans Bowl.

Scouting The Offense: Southern Miss ranks 11th nationally in rushing (264.5 yards per game) and 13th in total offense (507.5) and is third in C-USA in scoring (39.0 points per game). The Golden Eagles have committed just two turnovers (both fumbles). Damion Fletcher is third in the league with 158.5 all-purpose yards per game.

Scouting The Defense: The Golden Eagles are seventh in the nation in rushing defense (38.5 yards per game) and ninth in total defense (182.5) and they lead C-USA in scoring defense (9.5 points per game. Opponents have tallied a combined 21 first downs and have reached the red zone just four times in eight quarters.

Players To Watch:

QB Austin Davis—Through two games, he is on pace for 2,820 passing yards and 24 TDs. The sophomore already ranks fifth in school history with 11 career 200-yard games, four behind Brett Favre (1987-91) for fourth place.

WR DeAndre Brown—The explosive 6-6 sophomore returned from a broken leg last week to grab seven passes for 75 yards. A 100-yard game against Virginia would be the fifth of his career, third-most in school history after Sherrod Gideon (11) and Todd Pinkston (six).

DE Cordarro Law—The 6-2, 243-pound sophomore shares the C-USA lead with two sacks for negative-18 yards and is tied for sixth with 3.0 tackles for loss.

http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/ne...ype=team_report
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#947986 - 09/20/09 11:11 PM Re: Damion Fletcher and Southern Miss. [Re: sdoyel]
tyler Offline
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Registered: 01/30/07
Loc: Lawrence
Ok, that's fine. I'm chill. I just re-read your post and I understand what you're saying. I am, by no means, looking to make any enemies here, especially fellow hawks. Sorry if my intial post upset you.
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#947987 - 09/20/09 11:25 PM Re: Damion Fletcher and Southern Miss. [Re: tyler]
tdogg34 Offline
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Registered: 02/02/09
Loc: Texas
lol, we don't need to be aware of southern miss. the team needs to be aware as they already are. Going into any game, the team needs to be aware and not overlook anyone or else they could lose. As for all the negative comments about the team, we have only played 3 games this season. We don't look great yet. We look pretty average to good at this point. Guess what? We can only get better and that is scary for all future opponents. With that said, Kansas wins this one easy as they finally play a good offensive game. 56 to 13 final score. Hopefully I'm giving southern miss. too much credit there.

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#947988 - 09/21/09 09:52 AM Re: Damion Fletcher and Southern Miss. [Re: tdogg34]
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Registered: 08/31/08
Loc: Kansas
Here's how Southern Miss stacks up so far.

    Category, National Rank, Actual
    Rushing Offense #12 247.67
    Passing Offense #75 205.33
    Total Offense #18 453
    Scoring Offense #22 38.33
    Rushing Defense #6 51.67
    Pass Efficiency Defense #35 107.47
    Total Defense #17 251.67
    Scoring Defense #33 17.67
    Net Punting #98 32.75
    Punt Returns #47 10.09
    Kickoff Returns #12 30.5
    Turnover Margin #T-35 0.67
    Pass Defense #54 200
    Passing Efficiency #39 142.84
    Sacks #17 3
    Tackles For Loss T-#41 6.33
    Sacks Allowed T-#55 1.67

Compared to how KU stacks up so far.

    Category, National Rank, Actual
    Rushing Offense #14 245
    Passing Offense #16 292.67
    Total Offense #3 537.67
    Scoring Offense #11 42.33
    Rushing Defense #8 57.67
    Pass Efficiency Defense #45 112.99
    Total Defense #27 282.67
    Scoring Defense #6 8.67
    Net Punting #104 31.33
    Punt Returns #44 10.33
    Kickoff Returns #103 17.71
    Turnover Margin T-#20 1
    Pass Defense #72 225
    Passing Efficiency #29 152.37
    Sacks #4 4.67
    Tackles For Loss T-#6 9
    Sacks Allowed T-#11 0.67


Most difficult teams faced so far, Duke for KU, and Central Florida for Southern Miss. The only SOS ratings I could find this early on are computer done and rank both KU and Southern Miss. similarly.
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#947989 - 09/21/09 09:54 AM Re: Damion Fletcher and Southern Miss. [Re: Wickedson]
jayhawk1996 Offline
Pure Jayhawk

Registered: 09/10/08
Loc: Dallas, Texas
Quote:

Pfft, enjoy it. KU isn't OK or Texas. Never will be.

Win or lose, we still booze.



Sounds like a post from five years ago. The Texas team I've seen at Wyoming and vs. Texas Tech looked beatable, as does the OU team that KU played well against last year in Norman.

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#947990 - 09/21/09 12:16 PM Re: Damion Fletcher and Southern Miss. [Re: jayhawk1996]
eagleboy415 Offline
Baby Jay

Registered: 09/15/09
I like to see confidence in a team, BUT we will not be held to 13 points. This is the same Fedora team that OSU had a few years ago. The offense, while dismal the first half of Virginia, can be strong. We can win, but we have to play very well. Don't take us lightly...we're 3-0 for a reason. Don't think your defense is strong enough to hold us to 13...

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#947991 - 09/21/09 12:23 PM Re: Damion Fletcher and Southern Miss. [Re: JFish26]
LisaT Offline
Max Falkenstein

Registered: 03/11/07
Quote:

Meh, I don't see what makes Southern Miss that much better than UTEP. We'll dispatch them handily.




We agree, UVA is frickin horrible...SMiss will NOT be a challenge...I anticipate more vanilla...
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#947992 - 09/21/09 12:30 PM Re: Damion Fletcher and Southern Miss. [Re: LisaT]
sdoyel Offline
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Registered: 09/23/03
Loc: Dallas
For a team that has won 8-straight games (including a bowl win tossed in there) our fans seem to be overlooking Southern Miss.

I hope our team doesn't have this attitude.
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#947993 - 09/21/09 01:37 PM Re: Damion Fletcher and Southern Miss. [Re: sdoyel]
JFish26 Offline
Max Falkenstien

Registered: 03/17/05
Loc: KC, MO
Fine, I get it, you're nervous. I'll be surprised if Saturday is anything other than a comfortable win. We haven't rolled out any of our playbook yet. If we need to, we'll get into the complicated stuff.
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#947994 - 09/21/09 01:49 PM Re: Damion Fletcher and Southern Miss. [Re: sdoyel]
LisaT Offline
Max Falkenstein

Registered: 03/11/07
Quote:

For a team that has won 8-straight games (including a bowl win tossed in there) our fans seem to be overlooking Southern Miss.

I hope our team doesn't have this attitude.




I am sure Coach MM is of like mind with you, one game at a time and prepare like crazy.

I just saw film of a lot of the UVA game...ugly stuff.
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#947995 - 09/21/09 02:01 PM Re: Damion Fletcher and Southern Miss. [Re: LisaT]
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Registered: 10/19/07
Loc: Jayhawk Nation
Considering this has been considered the toughest Non-con game all offseason, I doubt the team will overlook it. Especially considering the big comeback they had this week.

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#947996 - 09/21/09 03:03 PM Re: Damion Fletcher and Southern Miss. [Re: killabees]
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Max Falkenstien

Registered: 07/03/09
Which KU safety gets coverage on Brown at 6'6"?


Edited by pizzanbeer (09/21/09 03:07 PM)

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#947997 - 09/21/09 03:22 PM Re: Damion Fletcher and Southern Miss. [Re: eagleboy415]
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Wilt Chamberlain

Registered: 08/31/08
Loc: Kansas
Quote:

I like to see confidence in a team, BUT we will not be held to 13 points. This is the same Fedora team that OSU had a few years ago. The offense, while dismal the first half of Virginia, can be strong. We can win, but we have to play very well. Don't take us lightly...we're 3-0 for a reason. Don't think your defense is strong enough to hold us to 13...



No doubt, you guys have a good team and virtually everyone, including most here on this message board, thinks you'll be our toughest non-con opponent, but I think we have the best defense you all have faced so far this year and it's in Lawrence which doesn't help. I don't know how many points you'll score, but I'd be surprised if it's higher than 21 or so, but I wouldn't be surprised if it's lower than 17.

Can you tell I don't like making absolute predictions?
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#947998 - 09/21/09 03:33 PM Re: Damion Fletcher and Southern Miss. [Re: Kman_blue]
max4 Offline
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Registered: 08/21/08
Loc: North Mexico
The line opened around 14 and if I had to make a wager I'd take USM and the points. They are a very tough team.
Much tougher than KSU, ISU or CU.
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#947999 - 09/21/09 04:26 PM Re: Damion Fletcher and Southern Miss. [Re: killabees]
haleyd1 Offline
Baby Jay

Registered: 09/21/09
Golden Eagle fan here. Im sure your guys wont be overlooking this one. They know, along with Coach ManG, that we are a pretty talented team. We struggled last week because of turnovers and down right nasty play but were able to win the game. It should be a good game if you look at the talent. We are not where you guys are yet but we are headed in that direction. Very young. Not losing anybody for next year, with the exception of Fletch, but there are better backs behind him right now so we should have 16 returning starters for next year. Although I dont want to, im giving the edge to you guys. 30-23. I dont think this will be as high scoring as people think. Good luck to you guys. hope you have a great season!

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#948000 - 09/21/09 04:43 PM Re: Damion Fletcher and Southern Miss. [Re: haleyd1]
somiss87 Offline
Baby Jay

Registered: 09/21/09
We are a tale of two teams right now. So far the team that plays in the first half is very average and vanilla. But the team that shows up in the second half is a top 25 team and what us USM fans have expected all year. It's going to take us playing our best for 60 minutes to beat Kansas. You guys are very solid this year on both sides of the ball. But I think our teams are pretty similar in a lot of ways and the talent is fairly even....you guys may have a little more speed than us.

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#948001 - 09/21/09 04:49 PM Re: Damion Fletcher and Southern Miss. [Re: sdoyel]
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I am an idiot

Registered: 11/16/08
Maybe this is a team that plays up to its level of competition. This does happen. I think some of Bill Self's teams do that. I think we will be really focused and ready to go after all of the mistakes against Duke. We should be really sharp.
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#948002 - 09/21/09 04:53 PM Re: Damion Fletcher and Southern Miss. [Re: somiss87]
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I am an idiot

Registered: 11/16/08
I agree. I think the spread of 13.5 is too much. I think it will be closer then that. I mean you have a built program and reminds me some of Virginia Tech.
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#948003 - 09/21/09 04:57 PM Re: Damion Fletcher and Southern Miss. [Re: haleyd1]
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Registered: 11/16/08
Spoken like a true traitor. I see you have a grand total of 1 post. You are probably a white-trash Mizzou fan so own up to it.
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#948004 - 09/21/09 04:58 PM Re: Damion Fletcher and Southern Miss. [Re: edjayhawk1]
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Wilt Chamberlain

Registered: 09/01/02
Loc: Mc to the Pherson
So. Miss is NOT to be overlooked. This is a wacky season in college football, and rankings do not mean s hit. If I were in charge of college football, the first poll would not come out until after week five.

BYU/FSU anyone? FSU was a storied program, but BYU was supposed to run them outta their homefield. FSU has speed, and they're a program that BYU is unfamiliar with.

Sounds like So. Miss to me. Hope we play well, So. Miss plays well, the crowd is up, no injuries occur, and BOTH teams gain some valuable experience for the season!

Best of luck So. Miss. Glad to see some civil fans on here from other schools. A giant leap from MU and ksu fans.

RCJHKU!
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#948005 - 09/21/09 05:04 PM Re: Damion Fletcher and Southern Miss. [Re: KUHawkhead]
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I am an idiot

Registered: 11/16/08
Yep, anything can happen on any given Saturday. You better be ready to go every game or else you will be sitting out during the BCS. OU loses to BYU and O-State loses to Houston are two prime examples.
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#948006 - 09/21/09 05:06 PM Re: Damion Fletcher and Southern Miss. [Re: haleyd1]
JFish26 Offline
Max Falkenstien

Registered: 03/17/05
Loc: KC, MO
Quote:

We are not where you guys are yet but we are headed in that direction.




No you're not. Sorry.
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#948007 - 09/21/09 05:09 PM Re: Damion Fletcher and Southern Miss. [Re: edjayhawk1]
jayhawk1996 Offline
Pure Jayhawk

Registered: 09/10/08
Loc: Dallas, Texas
Quote:

Yep, anything can happen on any given Saturday. You better be ready to go every game or else you will be sitting out during the BCS. OU loses to BYU and O-State loses to Houston are two prime examples.



And USC wins at Ohio State, then loses at Washington. Then BYU lays an egg at home vs. Florida State.
I'd forgotten about Fedora being at Southern Miss. He'll have a better idea of what KU has than Cutcliffe did.

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#948008 - 09/21/09 05:16 PM Re: Damion Fletcher and Southern Miss. [Re: edjayhawk1]
haleyd1 Offline
Baby Jay

Registered: 09/21/09
Quote:

Spoken like a true traitor. I see you have a grand total of 1 post. You are probably a white-trash Mizzou fan so own up to it.


Ha. I am from MS so the white trash part may be true, but I bleed black and gold.....Southern Miss black and gold. Former 2nd generation student athlete. Dont know too much about mizzou but I did go hunting one year close to the city they are from.

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#948009 - 09/21/09 05:18 PM Re: Damion Fletcher and Southern Miss. [Re: haleyd1]
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Max Falkenstien

Registered: 03/17/05
Loc: KC, MO
Shoulda gone closer.
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#948010 - 09/21/09 05:19 PM Re: Damion Fletcher and Southern Miss. [Re: jayhawk1996]
somiss87 Offline
Baby Jay

Registered: 09/21/09
Someone mentioned USM playing to their opponent and that has been the case in the past and it's annoying. I really think Briscoe is going to give us fits....Our cornerbacks are small. Our rushing defense is one of the best in the nation but we are suspect in the secondary and I'm sure Reesing will expose us on several plays.

I would put the line at Kansas -6

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#948011 - 09/21/09 05:22 PM Re: Damion Fletcher and Southern Miss. [Re: somiss87]
KUHawkhead Offline
Wilt Chamberlain

Registered: 09/01/02
Loc: Mc to the Pherson
I'll take a 6pt win. W is a W.

Thanks for the words and insight.

RCJHKU!
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#948012 - 09/21/09 05:40 PM Re: Damion Fletcher and Southern Miss. [Re: JFish26]
haleyd1 Offline
Baby Jay

Registered: 09/21/09
Quote:

Quote:

We are not where you guys are yet but we are headed in that direction.




No you're not. Sorry.




Dont know too much about our program. Thats understandable but go take a look at our recruiting classes the last few years. They are leaps and bounds better compared to what they were. Actually pretty close to Kansas's classes and ahead in one year. Give it time and you'll see. We also knew that Houston would go in and have a shot at OSU. They have been up and coming the last couple of years as well. Big game with them against TT this weekend.

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#948013 - 09/21/09 05:42 PM Re: Damion Fletcher and Southern Miss. [Re: haleyd1]
sdoyel Offline
LIKE A BOSS

Registered: 09/23/03
Loc: Dallas
IMO, this game will be decided over the first couple of possessions.

Does So. Miss. come out and establish a run?

Can KU avoid a sluggish start?

If So. Miss falls behind by 2 scores, it's going to be tough for them to utilyze their outstanding RB.... My guess is KU comes out attacking early and often in the air. With OR without Sharp playing.
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#948014 - 09/21/09 05:46 PM Re: Damion Fletcher and Southern Miss. [Re: haleyd1]
JFish26 Offline
Max Falkenstien

Registered: 03/17/05
Loc: KC, MO
Quote:

Quote:

Quote:

We are not where you guys are yet but we are headed in that direction.




No you're not. Sorry.




Dont know too much about our program. Thats understandable but go take a look at our recruiting classes the last few years. They are leaps and bounds better compared to what they were. Actually pretty close to Kansas's classes and ahead in one year. Give it time and you'll see. We also knew that Houston would go in and have a shot at OSU. They have been up and coming the last couple of years as well. Big game with them against TT this weekend.




Sorry, still ridiculous. The money's not there for you to be on your way to where we are (let alone where we're heading).
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#948015 - 09/21/09 05:49 PM Re: Damion Fletcher and Southern Miss. [Re: sdoyel]
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Baby Jay

Registered: 09/21/09
Quote:

IMO, this game will be decided over the first couple of possessions.

Does So. Miss. come out and establish a run?

Can KU avoid a sluggish start?

If So. Miss falls behind by 2 scores, it's going to be tough for them to utilyze their outstanding RB.... My guess is KU comes out attacking early and often in the air. With OR without Sharp playing.




I agree that whoever gets off to a good start will have a huge advantage to winning this game.

However we came back on UVA by running the ball and I believe we had somewhere around 175 rushing yards in the last 20 minutes of the game....Granted Kansas is leaps and bounds better than UVA. But we have a very balanced offense and do not turn the ball over very often. Our QB hasn't thrown an interception dating back to last year.

IMO, this game is going to be decided by which team gets the best pressure on the QB.


Edited by somiss87 (09/21/09 05:50 PM)

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#948016 - 09/21/09 06:55 PM Re: Damion Fletcher and Southern Miss. [Re: somiss87]
mdfraz Offline
Baby Jay

Registered: 01/15/09
Loc: Lawrence
First, with the way our D line has played so far, I'll venture a guess that we'll get as good or better pressure on you than you on us. And here's the deal, when you pressure Reesing, that's often when he's at his best. So, although it's better not to have a lot of pressure bearing down on your QB, we will be better than your guy at handling it. Don't feel bad, I bet there aren't three QB's in the nation that are better than Todd when he's scrambling.

Our run D has been pretty strong most years since Mangino got here. We haven't seen much of a running attack; mostly spread offenses so far, but we've done a solid job stopping the run. Not saying you won't pick up yards on the ground, but I am not overly concerned with that. We did get exposed a bit against Dook in the middle of the D line with some of their draws up the middle; that concerns me a little.

I know I've been looking to the So. Miss. game as our toughest non-con challenge since well before the season kicked off. I still think it will be a good test for us. However, when it's all said and done, I don't think you will hold us to 30 points as someone posted earlier. If nothing else, we will switch into passing mode very early on, and it's gonna be almost impossible for anyone to slow Reesing, Meier, Briscoe, Wilson and McDougald down too much. Obviously turnovers are a great equalizer and if we have some, it could be a little more interesting than I want it to be, but I'm going to say 38-20 KU.
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#948017 - 09/21/09 08:13 PM Re: Damion Fletcher and Southern Miss. [Re: mdfraz]
rockymtnjhawk Offline
Wilt Chamberlain

Registered: 10/08/02
Loc: Colorado
KU played 4 defensive ends for much of the game. Not sure I heard Dorsey's name once. I did hear Johnson and Blakesly a little. I would expect more of a presence from the DTs this week. We need to, they are going to be important in Big XII play.

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#948018 - 09/22/09 11:44 AM Re: Damion Fletcher and Southern Miss. [Re: JFish26]
haleyd1 Offline
Baby Jay

Registered: 09/21/09
Quote:

Quote:

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We are not where you guys are yet but we are headed in that direction.




No you're not. Sorry.




Dont know too much about our program. Thats understandable but go take a look at our recruiting classes the last few years. They are leaps and bounds better compared to what they were. Actually pretty close to Kansas's classes and ahead in one year. Give it time and you'll see. We also knew that Houston would go in and have a shot at OSU. They have been up and coming the last couple of years as well. Big game with them against TT this weekend.




Sorry, still ridiculous. The money's not there for you to be on your way to where we are (let alone where we're heading).


Hmm. Sure we dont get the money from being in a big conference but we do have 15 straight winning seasons. Fact of the matter is that we have loads of talent in the south, especially in MS. If we dont get the best, we get guys that are pretty dang good. We will always have good teams, but with Fedoras recruiting, we are fielding better teams. You will see that talent on Saturday even though we are extremely young.

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#948019 - 09/22/09 01:50 PM Re: Damion Fletcher and Southern Miss. [Re: haleyd1]
feedback71 Offline
Baby Jay

Registered: 09/22/08
I agree that this will be our toughest opponent to date. But I still think KU wins this one by double digits.

What say you, So. Miss fans? Score predictions?

USM - 17
Kansas - 35

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#948020 - 09/22/09 03:18 PM Re: Damion Fletcher and Southern Miss. [Re: sdoyel]
JLGoldenEagle Offline
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Registered: 09/19/09
Loc: MS
The girlfriend of Damion Fletcher
Ran so fast he scarcely could catch her
She dodged and she weaved
Until Fletcher received
Training, Raising the Running Backs stature
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#948021 - 09/22/09 03:22 PM FIXED [Re: JLGoldenEagle]
JFish26 Offline
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Registered: 03/17/05
Loc: KC, MO
Quote:

The girlfriend of Damion Fletcher
Ran so fast he scarcely could catch her
So he fired his gun,
And she stopped her run
Lest she make her escape on a stretcher.




http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/football/ncaa/02/16/fletcher.usm.ap/
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#948022 - 09/22/09 03:28 PM Re: FIXED [Re: JFish26]
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Registered: 05/18/08
Kansas wins by twenty. Were at home no way we lose.

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#948023 - 09/22/09 03:32 PM Re: FIXED [Re: JFish26]
Rivethead Offline
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Registered: 09/01/04
Loc: Austin, TX USA
Quote:

Quote:

The girlfriend of Damion Fletcher
Ran so fast he scarcely could catch her
So he fired his gun,
And she stopped her run
Lest she make her escape on a stretcher.




http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/football/ncaa/02/16/fletcher.usm.ap/




So I'm confused. The other dude with the pot is Damien Fletcher's girlfiend?
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#948024 - 09/22/09 03:41 PM Re: Damion Fletcher and Southern Miss. [Re: feedback71]
somiss87 Offline
Baby Jay

Registered: 09/21/09
Quote:

I agree that this will be our toughest opponent to date. But I still think KU wins this one by double digits.

What say you, So. Miss fans? Score predictions?

USM - 17
Kansas - 35




If both teams play they are capable of I think it will be a close game. We have as much talent as we ever have and our defense has been one of the best in the nation over our 8 game winning streak. But we haven't faced an offense as dynamic as yours.

I think you win but it's close. I look for Kansas to have a nice lead at halftime and USM making a comeback in the second half, but falls short

Kansas 34
USM 30

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#948025 - 09/22/09 03:44 PM Re: Damion Fletcher and Southern Miss. [Re: somiss87]
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Registered: 08/28/02
Loc: Kansas
I don't want to be a homer, but no team that falls behind UVa and has to play catch up is going to keep the game close. KU will not implode like UVa. Oh, by the way, we have defended tall receivers before.
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#948026 - 09/22/09 04:06 PM Re: Damion Fletcher and Southern Miss. [Re: NotAPuke]
Rivethead Offline
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Registered: 09/01/04
Loc: Austin, TX USA
Quote:

Oh, by the way, we have defended tall receivers before.




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#948027 - 09/22/09 04:08 PM Re: Damion Fletcher and Southern Miss. [Re: NotAPuke]
somiss87 Offline
Baby Jay

Registered: 09/21/09
Quote:

I don't want to be a homer, but no team that falls behind UVa and has to play catch up is going to keep the game close. KU will not implode like UVa. Oh, by the way, we have defended tall receivers before.




Falling behind UVA was due to fumbles by the two most reliable ball carriers on the team and the defensive back tripping off the line giving UVA an easy 80 yard TD pass. And UVA didn't implode at all, USM dominated in every facet of the game. If USM plays like they did in the 2nd half last weekend, Kansas may lose this game. Yet I expect Kansas to pull this one out.

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#948028 - 09/22/09 04:10 PM Re: Damion Fletcher and Southern Miss. [Re: somiss87]
Rivethead Offline
Prairie Warrior

Registered: 09/01/04
Loc: Austin, TX USA
Quote:

I look for Kansas to have a nice lead at halftime and USM making a comeback in the second half, but falls short




I disagree. I think our half time adjustements will be much better than yours (aka - we have better coaches). Plus, I think we're much deeper as a team than yours.

If this game is close, it's because you guys jump out to a lead and we play catchup. Not the other way around.
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#948029 - 09/22/09 04:19 PM Re: Damion Fletcher and Southern Miss. [Re: mdfraz]
IEtherTigers Offline
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Registered: 08/16/08
The football IQ of a lot of KU fans in this thread is terminally low. Southern Miss has won in Lincoln recently,have a lot of talent. We don't play our A game, we will get beat.
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#948030 - 09/22/09 04:21 PM Re: Damion Fletcher and Southern Miss. [Re: Rivethead]
somiss87 Offline
Baby Jay

Registered: 09/21/09
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I look for Kansas to have a nice lead at halftime and USM making a comeback in the second half, but falls short




I disagree. I think our half time adjustements will be much better than yours (aka - we have better coaches). Plus, I think we're much deeper as a team than yours.

If this game is close, it's because you guys jump out to a lead and we play catchup. Not the other way around.




While I think you have the better overall team, I think you underestimate us and our coaching staff. We don't have the second longest active winning streak for nothing. I understand you have very little understanding of our program, but saying you're much deeper is not a very accurate statement especially on the offensive side of the ball.

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#948031 - 09/22/09 04:35 PM Re: Damion Fletcher and Southern Miss. [Re: somiss87]
NotAPuke Offline
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Registered: 08/28/02
Loc: Kansas
Whoa, there. We are deeper than you think and with highly talented players. We are also deep, as you will see, on defense. You will likely see 8-9 different d-Linemen and as many as 6 different LB's. We have one kid who started almost every game last year at WR that rarely sees the field, Tertavian Ingram. Please don't think our O is just Todd, Meier, Biscoe and Sharp or Opurum. We played UTEP and Duke without our starting tight end. So we just added a wide out and adjusted. If Reesing goes down, Pick will give you a different look and give you fits. He's averaging 28 yards per carry. You have a good team, but you will likely have a realy long day Saturday. And if you make the trip, bring an umbrella, it could be raining.
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#948032 - 09/22/09 04:37 PM Re: Damion Fletcher and Southern Miss. [Re: somiss87]
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Crimson & Blue Blood

Registered: 04/15/03
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While I think you have the better overall team, I think you underestimate us and our coaching staff. We don't have the second longest active winning streak for nothing. I understand you have very little understanding of our program, but saying you're much deeper is not a very accurate statement especially on the offensive side of the ball.




I have been excited for this game since they announced the series some time ago. This is KU's first real game- everything up to now has been preseason. Overlooking you guys is not smart especially considering the "Will Play Anyone, Anywhere, Anytime" slogan that was (still is?) printed on your field. If you combine the talent base, recruiting, and road dog toughness of this program along with the offensive experience of Fedora you get one hell of a tough team. I just wish that your colors were not the same as the Skum from Columbia.

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#948033 - 09/22/09 04:38 PM Re: Damion Fletcher and Southern Miss. [Re: NotAPuke]
yomang Offline
Crimson & Blue Blood

Registered: 04/15/03
Nota, enough about the rain!

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#948034 - 09/22/09 04:51 PM Re: Damion Fletcher and Southern Miss. [Re: somiss87]
sdoyel Offline
LIKE A BOSS

Registered: 09/23/03
Loc: Dallas
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I don't want to be a homer, but no team that falls behind UVa and has to play catch up is going to keep the game close. KU will not implode like UVa. Oh, by the way, we have defended tall receivers before.




Falling behind UVA was due to fumbles by the two most reliable ball carriers on the team and the defensive back tripping off the line giving UVA an easy 80 yard TD pass. And UVA didn't implode at all, USM dominated in every facet of the game. If USM plays like they did in the 2nd half last weekend, Kansas may lose this game. Yet I expect Kansas to pull this one out.




That would mean KU's defense would have to play like Virginia's.... LOL.
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#948035 - 09/22/09 04:56 PM Re: Damion Fletcher and Southern Miss. [Re: sdoyel]
sdoyel Offline
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Registered: 09/23/03
Loc: Dallas
BTW, I was looking at Southern Miss.'s schedule from last season. Against UTEP and Rice they gave up a combined 85 points, including a total of 10 TD passes by the UTEP and Rice QB's respectively.

A lot of KU fans are speculating on who backs up Opurum if Sharp can't play, well odds are it's Reesing's right arm. Unless Todd throws a couple of costly turnovers, I expect him to pass for 300+ and at least 3TD's.
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#948036 - 09/22/09 05:02 PM Re: Damion Fletcher and Southern Miss. [Re: sdoyel]
somiss87 Offline
Baby Jay

Registered: 09/21/09
Quote:

BTW, I was looking at Southern Miss.'s schedule from last season. Against UTEP and Rice they gave up a combined 85 points, including a total of 10 TD passes by the UTEP and Rice QB's respectively.

A lot of KU fans are speculating on who backs up Opurum if Sharp can't play, well odds are it's Reesing's right arm. Unless Todd throws a couple of costly turnovers, I expect him to pass for 300+ and at least 3TD's.




Yea our pass defense is suspect, but so is yours judging by the stats. Looking at the stats, it appears that both teams are really good against the run and average against the pass. We've only given up one TD to a running back in our 8 game win streak, so I'd just tell Reesing to fire away

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#948037 - 09/22/09 05:03 PM Re: Damion Fletcher and Southern Miss. [Re: sdoyel]
jaihaux Offline
Wilt Chamberlain

Registered: 01/28/03
Loc: Overlook Hotel
For some reason, I'm getting a feeling this game could be like Central Michigan a couple years ago. CMU was decent and won the MAC that year but we beat the piss out of them.

I just have a feeling we're gonna come out strong this Saturday.
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#948038 - 09/22/09 05:04 PM Re: Damion Fletcher and Southern Miss. [Re: somiss87]
Rivethead Offline
Prairie Warrior

Registered: 09/01/04
Loc: Austin, TX USA
Quote:

I think you underestimate us and our coaching staff.




Not at all. I'm a fan of your coach and team (when we're not playing them). I just like to call a spade a spade.

Quote:

We don't have the second longest active winning streak for nothing.




For nothing? No - you have the second longest winning streak by playing Alcorn St. type teams. Rice, UTEP (who you lost to), East Carolina, SMU.....how many ranked teams have you faced in the last year? I'll give you that you did barely beat a good Troy team in a bowl game. Trust us, here at KU we know quite a bit about padding the schedule to make a season look good.

Quote:

I understand you have very little understanding of our program, but saying you're much deeper is not a very accurate statement especially on the offensive side of the ball.




Here's the deal. You guys are a young team. I think you admitted that yourself. Well, I'd be extremely surprised if you're young AND deep on any side of the ball.
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#948039 - 09/22/09 05:06 PM Re: Damion Fletcher and Southern Miss. [Re: sdoyel]
Rivethead Offline
Prairie Warrior

Registered: 09/01/04
Loc: Austin, TX USA
Quote:

if Sharp can't play




Sharp was injured all of Duke and still played....19 yards and a TD reception.

Sharp can play. And I personally think he will.
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#948040 - 09/22/09 05:10 PM Re: Damion Fletcher and Southern Miss. [Re: somiss87]
Rivethead Offline
Prairie Warrior

Registered: 09/01/04
Loc: Austin, TX USA
Quote:

Yea our pass defense is suspect, but so is yours judging by the stats. Looking at the stats, it appears that both teams are really good against the run and average against the pass.




Well....we faced one of the most protent offenses in the country....and at their house nonetheless....while you faced....Alcorn St.

So let's not get too hung up on stats. Unless you'd like to go back to last year...in which case we got lit up by OU, Texas, and Texas Tech, while you got lit up by East Carolina, Rice, and UTEP (the same UTEP we shut down two weeks ago).
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#948041 - 09/22/09 05:14 PM Re: Damion Fletcher and Southern Miss. [Re: Rivethead]
somiss87 Offline
Baby Jay

Registered: 09/21/09
Quote:


Here's the deal. You guys are a young team. I think you admitted that yourself. Well, I'd be extremely surprised if you're young AND deep on any side of the ball.




We are a fairly young team all the way around. Most of our starters are sophomores and juniors. Our backups are sophomores and redshirt freshman.

You're other arguments are valid. I applaud you guys for being civil and actually discussing the game

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#948042 - 09/22/09 05:19 PM Re: Damion Fletcher and Southern Miss. [Re: Rivethead]
somiss87 Offline
Baby Jay

Registered: 09/21/09
Quote:

Quote:

Yea our pass defense is suspect, but so is yours judging by the stats. Looking at the stats, it appears that both teams are really good against the run and average against the pass.




Well....we faced one of the most protent offenses in the country....and at their house nonetheless....while you faced....Alcorn St.

So let's not get too hung up on stats. Unless you'd like to go back to last year...in which case we got lit up by OU, Texas, and Texas Tech, while you got lit up by East Carolina, Rice, and UTEP (the same UTEP we shut down two weeks ago).




We beat ECU 21-3. It took a handful of games to get Fedora's system implemented, not to mention that we were starting a freshman QB and a brand new D line and secondary. And I was referring to Duke coming into your house and gaining 400 yards.

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#948043 - 09/22/09 05:44 PM Re: Damion Fletcher and Southern Miss. [Re: somiss87]
haleyd1 Offline
Baby Jay

Registered: 09/21/09
Being that this is college football and these are two talented teams, anything can happen. I would give an edge to KU in talent on Saturday, but we arent talking about Texas vs Colorado here. I gave a slight edge to OSU against Houston but we saw what happened there. Houston dominated on offense. This game will be competitive and IMO, the team that takes care of the ball and gets the breaks will win. Judging by how we did not take care of the ball against UVA, we may be in trouble. Hope it doesnt rain. We've had rain every game this year except for Alcorn.

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#948044 - 09/22/09 05:49 PM Re: Damion Fletcher and Southern Miss. [Re: haleyd1]
sdoyel Offline
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Registered: 09/23/03
Loc: Dallas
Just for fun does anyone know when we last lost a non-conference home game?
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#948045 - 09/22/09 06:09 PM Re: Damion Fletcher and Southern Miss. [Re: sdoyel]
Thehavok Offline
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Registered: 10/20/08
Loc: Lawrence, KS
The last three non con games at home where we lost.
2004 - Northwestern L 17-20
2003 - Northwestern L 20-28
2002 - Bowling Green L 16-39

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#948046 - 09/22/09 06:52 PM Re: Damion Fletcher and Southern Miss. [Re: Thehavok]
IEtherTigers Offline
Lawrence Legend

Registered: 08/16/08
Guys are way too overconfident. I don't want to see any bitching this weekend if USM hangs around with us.
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#948047 - 09/22/09 06:58 PM Re: Damion Fletcher and Southern Miss. [Re: Thehavok]
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Wilt Chamberlain

Registered: 08/31/08
Loc: Kansas
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Southern Miss has won in Lincoln recently



Yeah, but that was in 2004 against a 5-6 bugeaters team who lost by 60! to Texas Tech later on. Not exactly world beaters.

I like the scrappy tough attitude of Southern Miss. I respect what they've done and I like their coach, but I do think overall we have a noticeable talent edge and we have very experienced guys in most all of our skill positions. Plus the game is in Lawrence, which helps out as well. Our D has been playing quite well and the reason why we look average against the pass is because of 2 busted plays, 1 late in the 4th quarter against UTEP, and 1 right off the bat against Dook, which accounted for a combined 141 yards or 47 yards per game in our allowed passing yards. If you take those 2 plays away, we only allow about 175 passing yards per game. Of course you can't take those 2 plays away, but this early in the season they really skew our stats in this category.

Not to take anything away from your win streak, but you guys have only really played 1 decent team so far this year in Central Florida and you only beat them by 7 at home. Alcorn state has been shut out and lost both of it's games by a total score of 100-0, while Virginia is atrocious and lost all 3 of their games, including a 12 point home loss to William and Mary for Christs sake! I understand TOs made that game ugly for you guys, but even then that game was far closer than it should of been if you guys are playing up to your potential. You haven't come close to playing a team like KU yet this year and haven't played someone as good as us since 2007 IMO. I think KU just has too much offensive power for you guys to handle and our D will be able to slow up your O considerably and force more punts than scoring opportunities. It might be a close game for a half, but I expect KU to pull away in the end.

I don't think anyone on our team is taking you all lightly though, because like most have said you guys will be our toughest non-con opponents and you certainly do have enough talent and coaching to give us fits if we aren't focused and taking care of business, but I think we will be both of those things. Good luck to you guys though, just not enough to beat us!
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#948048 - 09/22/09 07:00 PM Re: Damion Fletcher and Southern Miss. [Re: jaihaux]
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Max Falkenstien

Registered: 03/17/05
Loc: KC, MO
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For some reason, I'm getting a feeling this game could be like Central Michigan a couple years ago. CMU was decent and won the MAC that year but we beat the piss out of them.

I just have a feeling we're gonna come out strong this Saturday.




This.
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#948049 - 09/22/09 07:12 PM Re: Damion Fletcher and Southern Miss. [Re: Kman_blue]
JLGoldenEagle Offline
Baby Jay

Registered: 09/19/09
Loc: MS
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Southern Miss has won in Lincoln recently



Yeah, but that was in 2004 against a 5-6 bugeaters team who lost by 60! to Texas Tech later on. Not exactly world beaters.

I like the scrappy tough attitude of Southern Miss. I respect what they've done and I like their coach, but I do think overall we have a noticeable talent edge and we have very experienced guys in most all of our skill positions. Plus the game is in Lawrence, which helps out as well. Our D has been playing quite well and the reason why we look average against the pass is because of 2 busted plays, 1 late in the 4th quarter against UTEP, and 1 right off the bat against Dook, which accounted for a combined 141 yards or 47 yards per game in our allowed passing yards. If you take those 2 plays away, we only allow about 175 passing yards per game. Of course you can't take those 2 plays away, but this early in the season they really skew our stats in this category.

Not to take anything away from your win streak, but you guys have only really played 1 decent team so far this year in Central Florida and you only beat them by 7 at home. Alcorn state has been shut out and lost both of it's games by a total score of 100-0, while Virginia is atrocious and lost all 3 of their games, including a 12 point home loss to William and Mary for Christs sake! I understand TOs made that game ugly for you guys, but even then that game was far closer than it should of been if you guys are playing up to your potential. You haven't come close to playing a team like KU yet this year and haven't played someone as good as us since 2007 IMO. I think KU just has too much offensive power for you guys to handle and our D will be able to slow up your O considerably and force more punts than scoring opportunities. It might be a close game for a half, but I expect KU to pull away in the end.

I don't think anyone on our team is taking you all lightly though, because like most have said you guys will be our toughest non-con opponents and you certainly do have enough talent and coaching to give us fits if we aren't focused and taking care of business, but I think we will be both of those things. Good luck to you guys though, just not enough to beat us!




Very good assesment. We will definitly have to be at the top of our game to beat you, no doubt about it. Kansas is favored and rightfully so. If we play to our potential, then this game will be closer than you think. If your guys make mistakes, fumble..etc..and we don't (I hope that problem has been corrected) then it's possible for us to pull out a win. Good luck to you after Saturday, and may the game be injury free.

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#948050 - 09/22/09 08:39 PM Re: Damion Fletcher and Southern Miss. [Re: JLGoldenEagle]
sdoyel Offline
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Registered: 09/23/03
Loc: Dallas
About the only comparison I can get is the fact that a nearly identical So. Miss. team lost to UTEP 40-37 last season. And that same UTEP team lost to KU 34-7 this season.

Again, go back to last year and look at the games against higher-octane (spread) offenses.

This So. Miss. team struggles against good QB's.
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#948051 - 09/22/09 10:02 PM Re: Damion Fletcher and Southern Miss. [Re: sdoyel]
GPEagle Offline
Baby Jay

Registered: 09/22/09
Southern Miss fan here

First off I would like to say how much I admire and respect the Kansas program and Coach Mangino. I was marked a fan of you guys when yall got screwed by the refs against Texas and Mangino spoke the truth on why it happened. Reesing is my favorite non USM player and I have greatly enjoyed watching him for the last 3 years. I pull for Kansas whenever they are playing.

Now about the game. If our secondary plays the way it did last saturday, Reesing will torch us. Heck, he most likely will do it anyway considering he is just that kind of player. Although our D has made some nice improvement from last year, I don't think we are on par with your offense. Reesing, Briscoe, Meier, Sharp (although I have heard he may not play) are all just animals and will give us fits. I know the KU defense struggled a bit last year, but it seems like they have gotten much better this year. Shutting down Vittatoe from UTEP is no easy task.

For USM on offense its the big 3. QB Austin Davis, RB Damion Fletcher, and WR DeAndre Brown. Davis actually somewhat reminds me of Reesing only 3 inches taller. The guy is just a good player and can use his elusiveness to make something out of nothing and doesn't make mistakes (1 int in the last 8 games). Give him time and he will pick apart the best of defenses. Fletcher is a beast and has been for 4 years now. Not very fast but has great acceleration and incredible agility. DeAndre Brown is actually a question mark right now. He broke his leg badly last year and didn't do much last week. He had a crucial drop on a perfect 3rd and long pass and fumbled inside our own 20. If he can get it together, he will cause problems. One of our best wideouts, Johdric Morris, will most likely miss the game after taking a vicious, and illegal, blow to the head against UVA.

On defense, our D-Line can create pressure on the QB....but with Reesing that pretty much gets cancelled out considering how good he is on the run. Our linebackers are very good. Martez Smith is our best defensive play at strong side LB. Our secondary at times can be good, and at others can suck.

Our specal teams have their bright moments and dull as well. Kicker Justin Estes kicked well last week with the flu, but tends to miss a lot of chip shots. Punter Peter Bohme doesn't have a great average but has landed about 80% of his punts inside the 20. Freddie Parham and Tracy Lampley are very good returners.

My prediction

Kansas 37
USM 28


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#948052 - 09/23/09 12:25 AM Re: Damion Fletcher and Southern Miss. [Re: sdoyel]
waydownsouth Offline
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I read on your home page that your running back, Jack Sharp, was injured in last weeks game. He has accounted for six of your touchdowns this year. Any word on his status for the game with the Golden Eagles?

I looked at KU's depth chart and your OL and DL look smaller than what we saw against Virginia. That was a key, I believe, in our victory last week. Virginia was just not in the same conditioning as our guys and the hot, humid weather in Hattiesburg took its toll on their big guys. Are your lines designed around speed and quickness or more around strength and bulk?

Injury wise I think we'll come in in pretty good shape. DeAndre Brown is getting better each week and I hope he can be a bigger factor this weekend. Outside of Sharp, are there any other concerns of KU as far as injuries?

Someone mentioned earlier in this thread about the possibility of rain. I hope not. USM has had its share the last four years of games in September played in rainstorms and it would be a welcome change to have some fair weather for an early season game.

I saw where the game is expected to be a sellout. What is the seating capacity in Lawrence?

Here's hoping for an injury free game for both teams. Good luck after this Saturday for the rest of the season.

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#948053 - 09/23/09 12:33 AM Re: Damion Fletcher and Southern Miss. [Re: waydownsouth]
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Great info So. Miss fans!

Sharp will likely be a game-time decision. As for weather, I would think a sloppy weather game may play into your hands, especially if it's difficult to pass.
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#948054 - 09/23/09 12:44 AM Re: Damion Fletcher and Southern Miss. [Re: sdoyel]
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About the only comparison I can get is the fact that a nearly identical So. Miss. team lost to UTEP 40-37 last season. And that same UTEP team lost to KU 34-7 this season




Comparative scoring from a previous season? That's never a good measuring stick. Did USM have WR DeAndre Brown in that game? Wasn't that also Larry Fedora's first year as their head coach?
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#948055 - 09/23/09 01:12 AM Re: Damion Fletcher and Southern Miss. [Re: sdoyel]
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Right now, they're backing off the rain chances during the day on Saturday saying it should end at around sunrise on Saturday morning.

Our O-line averages about 303lbs including the 2 deep. Not too small. Our D-line is smaller averaging at about 271lbs. but there's a couple big guys in the middle and plenty of speed and strength with the DTs. One of them had a nice pick 6 against Dook even.

Yes, the game is a sellout. This makes our 10th out of the last 12 home games and 6 straight now. The capacity is 50,071 but there's usually 1,000 tp 2,500 extra in GA/student seating being standing room only.
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#948056 - 09/23/09 01:33 AM Re: Damion Fletcher and Southern Miss. [Re: trojanhawk]
waydownsouth Offline
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Damien Fletcher rolled up 260 yards on 34 carries in that UTEP game while Brown had 8 catches for 110 yards. We rolled up 541 total yards.

In the loss to Rice, Fletch had only 120 yards on 17 touches but DeAndre had 221 yards on 12 catches with four TD's. We had 573 total yards against the Owls.

We just couldn't stop either of those team's passing attacks and lost both games. Mostly that was because of a very inexperienced, young DL. All are now seasoned and are one of the strengths on the team this year.

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#948057 - 09/23/09 08:07 AM Re: Damion Fletcher and Southern Miss. [Re: IEtherTigers]
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The football IQ of a lot of KU fans in this thread is terminally low. Southern Miss has won in Lincoln recently,have a lot of talent. We don't play our A game, we will get beat.




This.

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#948058 - 09/23/09 08:39 AM Re: Damion Fletcher and Southern Miss. [Re: IEtherTigers]
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Guys are way too overconfident. I don't want to see any bitching this weekend if USM hangs around with us.





Fair enough. And if we treat USM like we treated Central Michigan a few years back, I don't want to see you on this board acting like you know what you're talking about.
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#948059 - 09/23/09 08:47 AM Re: Damion Fletcher and Southern Miss. [Re: waydownsouth]
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Registered: 09/01/04
Loc: Austin, TX USA
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I read on your home page that your running back, Jack Sharp, was injured in last weeks game. He has accounted for six of your touchdowns this year. Any word on his status for the game with the Golden Eagles?




Jake Sharp was not injured during the game. He was injured in a non-contact drill earlier in the week. The coaches put him in to test him out. His north-south running is just fine. It was his ability to make cuts and move latterally that suffered. He ended up getting 5 carries for 19 yards and 1 TD reception. Had we needed him, he would have played. I think he's pissed he didn't play. But we didn't need him, so the coaches did the smart thing and let him rest. Coach Mangino doesn't discuss injuries, so all this "will he play" talk his media speculation. I'm betting he plays.

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Injury wise I think we'll come in in pretty good shape. DeAndre Brown is getting better each week and I hope he can be a bigger factor this weekend. Outside of Sharp, are there any other concerns of KU as far as injuries?




Not really an injury, but KU has a very good TE in Tim Biere. You haven't heard his name yet because he's been battling the flu. But he's supposedly back in practice at full speed. I expect Biere to play a role in the game this Saturday.

This is going to be a fun, hard-fought battle to watch. Your boy Fletcher is the real deal.
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#948060 - 09/23/09 09:24 AM Re: Damion Fletcher and Southern Miss. [Re: IEtherTigers]
feedback71 Offline
Baby Jay

Registered: 09/22/08
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The football IQ of a lot of KU fans in this thread is terminally low. Southern Miss has won in Lincoln recently,have a lot of talent. We don't play our A game, we will get beat.




On the contrary. I think So. Miss is a very good team. They have been a good program for years. I think they are a bowl team again this year. But I just think this KU team is special. And playing in front of the home crowd should make it that much more special this week.

I could be wrong. I mean, that's why they play the games. My prediction is not so much disrespecting So. Miss as it is giving KU much respect.

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#948061 - 09/23/09 09:33 AM Re: Damion Fletcher and Southern Miss. [Re: feedback71]
mdfraz Offline
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Registered: 01/15/09
Loc: Lawrence
Yeah, calling fans out for believing we will beat a solid USM team shows a low IQ IMO. Nearly every KU poster I've seen here has shown respect to USM and is appropriately concerned about the game, but they have faith in the Hawks.

Winning in Lincoln in 2004 is certainly impressive and it would be nice if KU could say they have a recent victory there. However, relying on that game 5 years ago has absolutely NO bearing on Saturday's game. There are probably very few (if any) players on USM's team that were part of that game. If comparing results from this year's KU-UTEP game and last year's UTEP-USM game is meaningless, how much moreso is comparing a game that happened 5 years ago?

Of course KU could lose this game if they play like sh*t and turn the ball over. At the risk of tempting the fate gods, we don't do that very often; TTU is the last time in the last 2-3 years where you could say that happened, and TTU was better last year than USM is this year. If we play to our potential, we will win the game. If we don't, we could very well lose. Nothing earth shattering in noting any of that.
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#948062 - 09/23/09 09:46 AM Re: Damion Fletcher and Southern Miss. [Re: mdfraz]
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md, there's been plenty of disrespect to the USM program in this thread, lot of implications they are no better than a SE Louisiana. The OP was blasted for even broaching the possibility that we could get beat.
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#948063 - 09/23/09 10:59 AM Re: Damion Fletcher and Southern Miss. [Re: IEtherTigers]
Rivethead Offline
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Registered: 09/01/04
Loc: Austin, TX USA
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md, there's been plenty of disrespect to the USM program in this thread, lot of implications they are no better than a SE Louisiana. The OP was blasted for even broaching the possibility that we could get beat.




Seriously?

Other than Wickedson being sarcastic and JFish trying to fire some people up, I don't see any disrespect for USM.

I see a lot of people saying they're a decent team and if we don't play well, we could lose. I see even more people confident in our team and confident that we won't have any trouble winning this game. But that's definitely not the same thing as disrespect.......
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#948064 - 09/23/09 11:15 AM Re: Damion Fletcher and Southern Miss. [Re: Rivethead]
mdfraz Offline
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Yeah, apparently I completely missed all of those disrespectful posters, Ether.
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#948065 - 09/23/09 12:19 PM Re: Damion Fletcher and Southern Miss. [Re: mdfraz]
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Baby Jay

Registered: 09/21/09
No disprespect coming to us. Just some friendly discussion between good fans. You guys have been a class act. Good luck Saturday.

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#948066 - 09/23/09 12:21 PM Re: Damion Fletcher and Southern Miss. [Re: haleyd1]
JFish26 Offline
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Registered: 03/17/05
Loc: KC, MO
Wait, there's a football game Saturday?

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#948067 - 09/23/09 12:31 PM Re: Damion Fletcher and Southern Miss. [Re: JFish26]
mdfraz Offline
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Loc: Lawrence
haley, no reason not to respect you posters or your team. Glad to have some Eagles fans on here debating the contest.

Is it disrespectful if I wait to wish you guys luck until AFTER Saturday?
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#948068 - 09/23/09 12:35 PM Re: Damion Fletcher and Southern Miss. [Re: mdfraz]
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Registered: 09/21/09
Here's the deal. If you guys come out and play your A game, you will win by 7+. But if you overlook us or turn the ball over, it could be a different story. USM is a fully capable team of beating about 115 teams in the nation, but we have to play a complete game instead of only a 2nd half.

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#948069 - 09/23/09 12:40 PM Re: Damion Fletcher and Southern Miss. [Re: somiss87]
mdfraz Offline
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Registered: 01/15/09
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I don't doubt (nor do most of the KU fans here, I think) that USM could indeed beat us. I think on paper, especially with us playing at home, we have the better team. They don't play games on paper though.

I just think that KU hasn't really put together 4 full quarters yet, and we are still breezing through games. No, the competition hasn't been that spectacular, but that's why we are winning by an average of almost 34 points a game. I think USM will score some points on us, but I don't think they will stop us, with or without Jake Sharp. Turnovers are an equalizer, and if we are minus 2 (or more) there, things could get pretty interesting. Overall though, I have to say we win by double digits, at least if Dezmon Briscoe doesn't get booted off the team by Saturday.
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#948070 - 09/23/09 12:41 PM Re: Damion Fletcher and Southern Miss. [Re: mdfraz]
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Registered: 03/17/05
Loc: KC, MO
I'll be surprised if we have Dez on Saturday.
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#948071 - 09/23/09 12:46 PM Re: Damion Fletcher and Southern Miss. [Re: JFish26]
mdfraz Offline
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Registered: 01/15/09
Loc: Lawrence
I just wonder what role he played, if any, yesterday and today. If I were a logical person in his shoes, I'd stay the fcuk away from ANY controversy, but somehow he seems to be right in the thick of things, according to rumors and the sketchy news reports.

Some people on this earth never learn their lesson no matter how many times they are put to the test. It looks more and more like Dez may be one of those people. Even if he did NOTHING just seeing his name as one of the parties at the scene is enough to make me cringe. If he was somehow involved, is there any way Mangino DOESN'T boot him after the other problems/punishments he's already received? And if Mangino doesn't do something about it, will he have any credibility down the road? He's in a pretty tough spot it would seem.
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#948072 - 09/23/09 12:56 PM Re: Damion Fletcher and Southern Miss. [Re: mdfraz]
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Registered: 03/17/05
Loc: KC, MO
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I just wonder what role he played, if any, yesterday and today. If I were a logical person in his shoes, I'd stay the fcuk away from ANY controversy, but somehow he seems to be right in the thick of things, according to rumors and the sketchy news reports.




Well, you're substituting the reasonable person for Dezmon.
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#948073 - 09/23/09 01:15 PM Re: Damion Fletcher and Southern Miss. [Re: JFish26]
LisaT Offline
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Registered: 03/11/07
Hold on fellas, aren't you passing judgement a smidge too soon based on loose fact and rumor?

I am taking a wait and see.
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#948074 - 09/23/09 01:21 PM Re: Damion Fletcher and Southern Miss. [Re: LisaT]
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Registered: 09/01/04
Loc: Austin, TX USA
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Hold on fellas, aren't you passing judgement a smidge too soon based on loose fact and rumor?

I am taking a wait and see.





Good call. All I've seen about Dez was that he was present in the aftermath of today's rumble. That does NOT mean he was involved.
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#948075 - 09/23/09 01:23 PM Re: Damion Fletcher and Southern Miss. [Re: Rivethead]
JFish26 Offline
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Registered: 03/17/05
Loc: KC, MO
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Hold on fellas, aren't you passing judgement a smidge too soon based on loose fact and rumor?

I am taking a wait and see.





Good call. All I've seen about Dez was that he was present in the aftermath of today's rumble. That does NOT mean he was involved.




I guess I'm looking at his presence and assuming he's on the shortest possible leash.
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#948076 - 09/23/09 01:24 PM Re: Damion Fletcher and Southern Miss. [Re: JFish26]
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Registered: 03/11/07
I hope your assumptions are wrong man...his leash is short


Edited by LisaT (09/23/09 01:24 PM)
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#948077 - 09/23/09 01:30 PM Re: Damion Fletcher and Southern Miss. [Re: LisaT]
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Registered: 11/22/07
Loc: Houston, TX
Even the law has "mere presence." If Desmon was merely present when things took place, that shouldn't be held against him, at least in any severe manner. If he took part in what happened, then we should be prepared for him to be out of the lineup Saturday and maybe longer.

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#948078 - 09/23/09 01:52 PM Re: Damion Fletcher and Southern Miss. [Re: hawkinTexas]
mdfraz Offline
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Registered: 01/15/09
Loc: Lawrence
I tried to be clear in my earlier post, but if I wasn't, I apologize.

I am not saying Briscoe did anything at all. I wasn't there. All I do know is that with the incidents yesterday and today, his name came up as someone who was in the vicinity. That does not make him guilty of anything. HOWEVER, with his history here, he should be running the opposite freaking direction at the first sign of trouble, at least if he wants to have a future playing football for KU.

Yes, Fish, I realize substituting the reasonable man for anyone is a fallacy, but I'm just saying that SHOULD be his mindset.
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#948079 - 09/23/09 01:53 PM Re: Damion Fletcher and Southern Miss. [Re: hawkinTexas]
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Registered: 09/23/09
Loc: St. Louis
Hey guys, another USM grad dropping in (albeit living in that state that holds the team that you guys hate (Mizzou)).

First off, let me say this.. if Reesling gets away from our pressure (which happened to us quite a bit in the first half with Virginia), he's going to murder our secondary (IMO). When we got pressure on Sewell in the second half against Va, it wasn't just pressure from one point, it was usually multiple players/directions which countered the scrambling ability of Sewell after a while.

Being living in MO, there's only two teams I get to see regularly (KU and Mizz), so I've seen Reesing do some stuff with his feet. That's what scares me the most right now, as we've played three scrambling QB's so far, and for the most part, haven't been able to bring them down without them having at least a modicum of success.

One of the things some of my fellow Golden Eagles didn't state was that our DC stated in a recent article that Virginia opened against us with a whole bunch of looks they didn't see on tape, and that's why he felt we were so confused on D to start with.

Our coaching staff is one of the best at analyzing tapes and maiking adjustments on what they see on the tape.... that being said, one of your regulars stated that you've been playing pretty "vanilla" offense.. so I assume that means there is a lot we havent' got tape on? IF this is the case , and Kansas pulls ahead early, this could get ugly for my boys , as we'd have to be playing adjustments/catch-up in the 2nd half. With your QB and company, I'm not sure we'll be able to do that this week..

If you've shown a lot of your regular offense (and I"m not sure they have), then we may be able to keep even in the first half, and it'll come down to adjustments on both sides.

As for our side.. If Davis plays smart, and we don't have those silly turnovers we had against Va.. We might be able to play an up-tempo, but keep KU's offense off the field type game (Coach Fedora loves to use the no-huddle even for short to mid-range plays.)

Someone said your Defensive line is a bit undersized? Which could help Harrison (The speedster tends to get ignored when they talk about our running game) and Fletcher Fletcher comes in and pounds on your smaller guys, tiring them out for Harrison.

The one big advantage we have is Brown.. I'm not sure there is anyone on the Kansas secondary that can go up with him in terms of leaping ability + height? (although USM fans are still concerened about his condition.. he had LOTS of drops and no catches against Virginia and was definitely showing signs of a long-wait before his return.)

That said, if there is anyone I trust to know how to coach against the Jayhawks, it's Fedora... so I'm hoping he can keep it up with some success... and I gotta root for my guys so..

USM: 35 Kansas : 28


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#948080 - 09/23/09 01:54 PM Re: Damion Fletcher and Southern Miss. [Re: JFish26]
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Registered: 09/01/04
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Quote:

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Hold on fellas, aren't you passing judgement a smidge too soon based on loose fact and rumor?

I am taking a wait and see.





Good call. All I've seen about Dez was that he was present in the aftermath of today's rumble. That does NOT mean he was involved.




I guess I'm looking at his presence and assuming he's on the shortest possible leash.




Glass half full view:

Kid is SUPPOSE to be on campus and going to class....that puts him at the scene of the crime, but that doesn't mean he's involved.
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#948081 - 09/23/09 01:55 PM Re: Damion Fletcher and Southern Miss. [Re: LisaT]
Merg311 Offline
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Registered: 08/01/06
Loc: Hays, KS
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I hope your assumptions are wrong man...his leash is short




His prior history or irresponsibility alone almost implicates him, he's no saint. I hope we have him Saturday...and the rest of the season, but I'm a bit worried at this point.
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#948082 - 09/23/09 02:07 PM Re: Damion Fletcher and Southern Miss. [Re: Merg311]
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Registered: 08/31/08
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Without knowing any details for sure, but just being there doesn't mean a thing.

Let's say you and 4 buddies are walking back to your dorm room and when you are walking through the front door of the dorm, another group of guys are walking out. One of your buddies has a beef with one of the guys walking out and they bump each other and it quickly escalates to a few punches thrown. Hell, even if all you do is step back away, you're there. There's no running away or hiding from being there. You might of even jumped in to separate the 2 which would be doing something GOOD in most people's eyes. So, I put absolutely ZERO into someone listed as being there. All I know is it sounds like there's been some turf tension between the 2 teams for a while and that happens almost every year to some degree at nearly every school. Add a girl in the mix and there ya go. Like a lot of others have said, we'll find out by Saturday who is being punished on the football team and probably not long after who on the bball team is going to be punished.
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#948083 - 09/23/09 02:08 PM Re: Damion Fletcher and Southern Miss. [Re: Merg311]
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Registered: 09/10/08
Loc: Dallas, Texas
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His prior history or irresponsibility alone almost implicates him, he's no saint. I hope we have him Saturday...and the rest of the season, but I'm a bit worried at this point.



Yes, but if his involvement is more direct than today's fracas, that's a third strike.

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#948084 - 09/23/09 02:24 PM Re: Damion Fletcher and Southern Miss. [Re: jayhawk1996]
JFish26 Offline
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Registered: 03/17/05
Loc: KC, MO
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His prior history or irresponsibility alone almost implicates him, he's no saint. I hope we have him Saturday...and the rest of the season, but I'm a bit worried at this point.



Yes, but if his involvement is more direct than today's fracas, that's a third strike.




Again, Briscoe's presence doesn't necessarily equate to involvement, but come on...wrong place, wrong time is a defense generally reserved for people who don't consistently find themselves on the wrong side of controversies.
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#948085 - 09/23/09 02:37 PM Re: Damion Fletcher and Southern Miss. [Re: JFish26]
mdfraz Offline
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Registered: 01/15/09
Loc: Lawrence
Exactly right Fish. Once, or MAYBE even twice in the wrong place, wrong time might be bad luck. Consistently being near or around controversy shows a lack of good decision making.

And again, before getting roasted for saying that, I have no idea what role Dezmon had, if any. But for a guy like him, even guilt by assocation can be quite problematic.
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#948086 - 09/23/09 02:39 PM Re: Damion Fletcher and Southern Miss. [Re: mdfraz]
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Max Falkenstien

Registered: 03/17/05
Loc: KC, MO
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Exactly right Fish. Once, or MAYBE even twice in the wrong place, wrong time might be bad luck. Consistently being near or around controversy shows a lack of good decision making.

And again, before getting roasted for saying that, I have no idea what role Dezmon had, if any. But for a guy like him, even guilt by assocation can be quite problematic.




Simply put, if you're Dez, you cannot be around when things get ugly. You don't get to say, "It wasn't my fault" anymore.
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#948087 - 09/23/09 02:43 PM Re: Damion Fletcher and Southern Miss. [Re: JFish26]
mdfraz Offline
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Registered: 01/15/09
Loc: Lawrence
I understand if his buddies are involved, he may want to back them up. But he has to weigh that desire against his future on the KU football team, and possibly his future in the NFL.

I don't know how many strikes Dezmon has already used with Mangino, but there are at least a couple that have been made public. I'm guessing they aren't the only ones.

And for the record, I think Briscoe might be the best pure football player on our team, and I would HATE to lose him for even one more game, let alone more. I just think Mangino runs the kind of ship that a guy that constantly causes problems gets thrown overboard, and if Mangino wants to have any respect from his players, that can't change just because the guy is an all-American candidate.
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#948088 - 09/23/09 02:48 PM Re: Damion Fletcher and Southern Miss. [Re: mdfraz]
LisaT Offline
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Registered: 03/11/07
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I'm guessing they aren't the only ones.






And the attorneys keep speculating!
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#948089 - 09/23/09 02:50 PM Re: Damion Fletcher and Southern Miss. [Re: mdfraz]
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Registered: 09/10/08
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I'm looking forward to the conclusion of this, so we can stop playing the ifs and buts game regarding Briscoe's status.
It's pretty simple - if he's involved, he's gone, perhaps from the program. If not, he's not.
Until then, the speculation is just that.


Edited by jayhawk1996 (09/23/09 02:51 PM)

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#948090 - 09/23/09 02:50 PM Re: Damion Fletcher and Southern Miss. [Re: LisaT]
mdfraz Offline
Baby Jay

Registered: 01/15/09
Loc: Lawrence
Eh, attorney or no, anyone who follows KU football and knows the way Mangino runs things is probably thinking the same thing.

I just think Mangino won't have much of a choice IF Dezmon played any active role in any of this. And if that's the case, man is that gonna suck for the rest of the team.
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#948091 - 09/23/09 02:51 PM Re: Damion Fletcher and Southern Miss. [Re: jayhawk1996]
LisaT Offline
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Registered: 03/11/07
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I'm looking forward to the conclusion of this, so we can stop playing the ifs and buts game regarding Briscoe's status.
It's pretty simple - if he's involved, he's gone, perhaps from the program. If not, he's not.
Until then, the speculation is just that.




You said it.
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#948092 - 09/23/09 02:52 PM Re: Damion Fletcher and Southern Miss. [Re: LisaT]
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#948093 - 09/23/09 02:54 PM Re: Damion Fletcher and Southern Miss. [Re: JFish26]
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Ok Negative Ned
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#948094 - 09/23/09 02:54 PM Re: Damion Fletcher and Southern Miss. [Re: LisaT]
JFish26 Offline
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Registered: 03/17/05
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Ok Negative Ned




One of my favorite board fallacies...too many people around here think:

Realistic = Negative
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#948095 - 09/23/09 03:01 PM Re: Damion Fletcher and Southern Miss. [Re: JFish26]
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Registered: 03/11/07
Ned
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#948096 - 09/23/09 03:03 PM Re: Damion Fletcher and Southern Miss. [Re: mdfraz]
IEtherTigers Offline
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Registered: 08/16/08
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Yeah, apparently I completely missed all of those disrespectful posters, Ether.




Meh, I don't see what makes Southern Miss that much better than UTEP. We'll dispatch them handily.

We agree, UVA is frickin horrible...SMiss will NOT be a challenge...I anticipate more vanilla...

Kansas wins by twenty. Were at home no way we lose.

don't want to be a homer, but no team that falls behind UVa and has to play catch up is going to keep the game close. KU will not implode like UVa. Oh, by the way, we have defended tall receivers before.

For nothing? No - you have the second longest winning streak by playing Alcorn St. type teams. Rice, UTEP (who you lost to), East Carolina, SMU.....how many ranked teams have you faced in the last year? I'll give you that you did barely beat a good Troy team in a bowl game. Trust us, here at KU we know quite a bit about padding the schedule to make a season look good.

Yeah, but that was in 2004 against a 5-6 bugeaters team who lost by 60! to Texas Tech later on. Not exactly world beaters.
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#948097 - 09/23/09 03:05 PM Re: Damion Fletcher and Southern Miss. [Re: IEtherTigers]
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Registered: 03/11/07
Exactly, I am telling you guys UVA is horrible.
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#948098 - 09/23/09 03:06 PM Re: Damion Fletcher and Southern Miss. [Re: LisaT]
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Registered: 03/17/05
Loc: KC, MO
Nancy.
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#948099 - 09/23/09 03:06 PM Re: Damion Fletcher and Southern Miss. [Re: LisaT]
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Pure Jayhawk

Registered: 09/10/08
Loc: Dallas, Texas
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Exactly, I am telling you guys UVA is horrible.



Lost at home to William and Mary. It was 11 on two, and one of the two was a girl.

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#948100 - 09/23/09 03:09 PM Re: Damion Fletcher and Southern Miss. [Re: jayhawk1996]
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Registered: 03/11/07
I was at the Alabama /Tech game and someone wrote on the back of a poster the UVA/W&M score and laughter errupted...was embarrassed for them.
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#948101 - 09/23/09 03:09 PM Re: Damion Fletcher and Southern Miss. [Re: IEtherTigers]
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Registered: 09/01/04
Loc: Austin, TX USA
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Quote:

Yeah, apparently I completely missed all of those disrespectful posters, Ether.




Meh, I don't see what makes Southern Miss that much better than UTEP. We'll dispatch them handily.

We agree, UVA is frickin horrible...SMiss will NOT be a challenge...I anticipate more vanilla...

Kansas wins by twenty. Were at home no way we lose.

don't want to be a homer, but no team that falls behind UVa and has to play catch up is going to keep the game close. KU will not implode like UVa. Oh, by the way, we have defended tall receivers before.

For nothing? No - you have the second longest winning streak by playing Alcorn St. type teams. Rice, UTEP (who you lost to), East Carolina, SMU.....how many ranked teams have you faced in the last year? I'll give you that you did barely beat a good Troy team in a bowl game. Trust us, here at KU we know quite a bit about padding the schedule to make a season look good.

Yeah, but that was in 2004 against a 5-6 bugeaters team who lost by 60! to Texas Tech later on. Not exactly world beaters.





You seriously believe that what I wrote (my comment above is about the winning streak being against weaker teams) is disrespecting USM?

Well.....you're entitled to your opinion.
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#948102 - 09/23/09 03:18 PM Re: Damion Fletcher and Southern Miss. [Re: Rivethead]
mdfraz Offline
Baby Jay

Registered: 01/15/09
Loc: Lawrence
Uh, most of those posts are factual. A few may be SLIGHTLY disrespectful/ignorant of USM, but even then, not really anything to get all up in arms about.

For instance, calling someone out for relying on a USM win in Lincoln in 2004.......legitimate.

Believing that KU is good enough, especially at home, to win by 20......legit, if a bit optimistic in my personal opinion. Just because some people expect to win, and even win handily, doesn't necessarily disparage USM; it more shows what people think of KU's potential.

The post about KU not imploding like UVA and noting that UVA is a bad team? Legit. Noting that we have faced talented/big receivers before? Legit.

Even the post downplaying their winning streak notes that they beat a good Troy team in their bowl game. How is that not respect?

If there are a few disrespectful or ignorant comments, that would be about it. Pointing out facts is not disrespectful. It's logical.
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#948103 - 09/23/09 03:20 PM Re: Damion Fletcher and Southern Miss. [Re: mdfraz]
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Pure Jayhawk

Registered: 09/10/08
Loc: Dallas, Texas
Here's what I've learned from this thread: There's far too much time between football games.
Can't wait for the two-week gap between USM and ISU.


Edited by jayhawk1996 (09/23/09 03:21 PM)

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#948104 - 09/23/09 03:23 PM Re: Damion Fletcher and Southern Miss. [Re: jayhawk1996]
mdfraz Offline
Baby Jay

Registered: 01/15/09
Loc: Lawrence
Hell, as far as I'm concerned, two days (Tuesday and Wednesday) is too long btw. football games on TV. I say we petition ESPN to show at least one game every single night of the week.
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#948105 - 09/23/09 04:02 PM Re: Damion Fletcher and Southern Miss. [Re: jayhawk1996]
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Registered: 08/16/08
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Here's what I've learned from this thread: There's far too much time between football games.
Can't wait for the two-week gap between USM and ISU.




This.
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#948106 - 09/23/09 05:08 PM Re: Damion Fletcher and Southern Miss. [Re: IEtherTigers]
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US Marshal, Kansas Territory

Registered: 05/26/05
The smack talk has gotten pretty serious. And I honestly don't understand where Southern Miss is coming from. Central Michigan came in here a couple years ago, and everyone thought it would be an absolute shootout. I think our local KC guy, Brady Mac even picked us to lose. I expect the result will be somewhere between there and the beatdown we put on Toledo a couple weeks later. I don't see this team being any better than the UTEP team we just took apart on the road. I was much more concerned with that game coming into this season.

Our offense is going to click this weekend, and that is not good news for USM.

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#948107 - 09/23/09 07:38 PM Re: Damion Fletcher and Southern Miss. [Re: tyler]
rodraskolnikov Offline
baby jay

Registered: 08/06/09
Loc: St. Petersburg
Folks, no disrespect to Southern Miss but barring disaster we're going to win this thing running away.

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#948108 - 09/23/09 07:45 PM Re: Damion Fletcher and Southern Miss. [Re: JFish26]
JZHawk Offline
US Marshal, Kansas Territory

Registered: 01/24/05
Loc: The 'Dot
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I'll be surprised if we have Dez on Saturday.




As of now, Coach Mangino says there will be no suspensions.

http://www2.kusports.com/news/2009/sep/23/mangino-now-no-players-will-serve-suspensions/?football

We shall see....

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#948109 - 09/23/09 07:48 PM Re: Damion Fletcher and Southern Miss. [Re: JZHawk]
sdoyel Offline
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Registered: 09/23/03
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It's nice seeing all of these USM guys/gals on our board. No doubt some of the best fans to visit this board since Virginia Tech IMO.
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#948110 - 09/23/09 07:54 PM Re: Damion Fletcher and Southern Miss. [Re: JZHawk]
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Registered: 08/17/05
Loc: World Golf Village, FL
I realize that the commutitive property of addition is not applicable in sports, but here goes anyway. USM beat University of Central FL in Hattiesburg 26-19. UCF beat Buffalo 23-17 in Orlando. UTEP lost to Buffalo 23-17 in El Paso. We beat UTEP 34-7 in El Paso. Looks like USM is on about the same level as UCF, which is only slightly better than Buffalo, which is only slightly better than UTEP. We win!!
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#948111 - 09/23/09 07:59 PM Re: Damion Fletcher and Southern Miss. [Re: JZHawk]
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Max Falkenstien

Registered: 03/17/05
Loc: KC, MO
Quote:

Quote:

I'll be surprised if we have Dez on Saturday.




As of now, Coach Mangino says there will be no suspensions.

http://www2.kusports.com/news/2009/sep/23/mangino-now-no-players-will-serve-suspensions/?football

We shall see....




There was some significant hedging there. Mangino did the smart thing. No reason to tell Fedora Dez isn't playing on Wednesday. He may well play. I'm not saying he definitely won't. Just that I'm not making any conclusions based on Mangino's presser.
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#948112 - 09/23/09 08:10 PM Re: Damion Fletcher and Southern Miss. [Re: JFish26]
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US Marshal, Kansas Territory

Registered: 01/24/05
Loc: The 'Dot
I agree. By saying "as of now, no one is suspended" gives Mangino room to maneuver if he needs to. I was just happy to hear some sort of statement from the big man.

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#948113 - 09/23/09 08:13 PM Re: Damion Fletcher and Southern Miss. [Re: JFish26]
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baby jay

Registered: 08/06/09
Loc: St. Petersburg
Dez or no Dez...49-21 KU.

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#948114 - 09/23/09 08:16 PM Re: Damion Fletcher and Southern Miss. [Re: rodraskolnikov]
JFish26 Offline
Max Falkenstien

Registered: 03/17/05
Loc: KC, MO
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Dez or no Dez...49-21 KU.




You know this makes no sense, right?
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#948115 - 09/23/09 08:23 PM Re: Damion Fletcher and Southern Miss. [Re: JFish26]
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Baby Jay

Registered: 04/09/09
Loc: Lawrence, KS
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Quote:

Dez or no Dez...49-21 KU.




You know this makes no sense, right?




beat me to it

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#948116 - 09/23/09 11:01 PM Re: Damion Fletcher and Southern Miss. [Re: sdoyel]
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Registered: 08/31/08
Loc: Kansas
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It's nice seeing all of these USM guys/gals on our board. No doubt some of the best fans to visit this board since Virginia Tech IMO.



I totally agree.
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#948117 - 09/25/09 05:04 PM Re: Damion Fletcher and Southern Miss. [Re: stevemize]
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Junior Jayhawk

Registered: 08/17/05
Loc: World Golf Village, FL
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I realize that the commutitive property of addition is not applicable in sports, but here goes anyway. USM beat University of Central FL in Hattiesburg 26-19. UCF beat Buffalo 23-17 in Orlando. UTEP lost to Buffalo 23-17 in El Paso. We beat UTEP 34-7 in El Paso. Looks like USM is on about the same level as UCF, which is only slightly better than Buffalo, which is only slightly better than UTEP. We win!!




AND Duke beat UVA last season 31-3.
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#948118 - 09/25/09 05:07 PM Re: Damion Fletcher and Southern Miss. [Re: rodraskolnikov]
JFish26 Offline
Max Falkenstien

Registered: 03/17/05
Loc: KC, MO
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Dez or no Dez...49-21 KU.




Peace out, homeslice.
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#948119 - 09/25/09 05:11 PM Re: Damion Fletcher and Southern Miss. [Re: JFish26]
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Junior Jayhawk

Registered: 09/21/09
Loc: ms
"I realize that the commutitive property of addition is not applicable in sports, but here goes anyway. USM beat University of Central FL in Hattiesburg 26-19. UCF beat Buffalo 23-17 in Orlando. UTEP lost to Buffalo 23-17 in El Paso. We beat UTEP 34-7 in El Paso. Looks like USM is on about the same level as UCF, which is only slightly better than Buffalo, which is only slightly better than UTEP. We win!! "

Thats your anaylsis!!! I hope you dont bet the way you make your matchups!! Thats the silliest sh#* ive ever seen!!

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#948120 - 09/25/09 05:13 PM Re: Damion Fletcher and Southern Miss. [Re: kswanzy]
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#948121 - 09/25/09 05:15 PM Re: Damion Fletcher and Southern Miss. [Re: kswanzy]
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Registered: 08/17/05
Loc: World Golf Village, FL
Just showing relationships of results from common teams played. BTW, I didn't make the matchups, those are actual games played and actual scores. Has nothing to do with me or my betting habits, Einstein.
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