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#916196 - 08/02/09 08:26 AM #2 in next years draft
jammahawk Offline
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Looks like the Royals are playing their way to the #2 selection in next years amature draft, maybe even making a play for #1.
Question is, would the Royals ownership have the stomach to draft and sign a Bryce Harper, or if the Senators fail to sign Stephen Strasburg would they give that a shot.
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#916197 - 08/02/09 11:38 AM Re: #2 in next years draft [Re: jammahawk]
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Yeah...you spend the money, especially on the hitter. I really, really doubt Washington fails to sign Strasburg, though.
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#916198 - 08/02/09 12:12 PM Re: #2 in next years draft [Re: JFish26]
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I forget, if Washington doesn't sign Strasburg, they have #1 and #2 next year. If they don't sign him this year, they will probably draft him again.
I can't see the Royals risking the kind of money Harper will demand. Huge risk for someone his age, especially for a team that should be drafting college age players that can be fast tracked.
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#916199 - 08/02/09 12:17 PM Re: #2 in next years draft [Re: jammahawk]
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On Washington...if they don't get it done with Strasburg now, I can't imagine them drafting him again, especially because they'll have to pay Harper, too.

Harper's a much, much better bet (and safer investment) than Strasburg. If he's on the board when the Royals pick, he's a must-get. Taking the best college bat on the board because he'd move faster would be like the Mariners taking Brooks Kieschnick or Jason Varitek over Alex Rodriguez in the 1993 draft. You can't do it.
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#916200 - 08/02/09 04:58 PM Re: #2 in next years draft [Re: JFish26]
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Anyone like Deck Mcguire at 2?

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#916201 - 08/02/09 06:38 PM Re: #2 in next years draft [Re: Bayer]
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Anyone like Deck Mcguire at 2?




who?
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#916202 - 08/02/09 07:01 PM Re: #2 in next years draft [Re: supermario15]
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#916203 - 08/02/09 10:32 PM Re: #2 in next years draft [Re: WaHawk04]
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#916204 - 08/03/09 10:30 AM Re: #2 in next years draft [Re: Bayer]
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Washington has 12 more days to sign him. Also the Royals have that same amount of time to sign Aaron Crow
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#916205 - 08/03/09 10:32 AM Re: #2 in next years draft [Re: Topcitykid10]
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Because of the way the system works, the signings won't be announced until right at the deadline. For instance, KC and Myers have already reached an agreement. It just won't be made public until the hours before the end.

My guess is Strasburg gets done at about $17.5MM.
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#916206 - 08/03/09 10:43 AM Re: #2 in next years draft [Re: JFish26]
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Who is Myers? I thought they took Crow first round
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#916207 - 08/03/09 10:46 AM Re: #2 in next years draft [Re: Topcitykid10]
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Who is Myers? I thought they took Crow first round




Wil Myers is a catcher they took in the fourth (I think?) who they had been rumored to be considering in the first. It's an example of the Royals finally spending some of the most cost-effective money in baseball: overpay for premium guys beyond the first-round of the draft. It's probably the single quickest way to fix a farm system, and it continues a promising trend (Melville last year).

However, because they're going to pay Myers first-round money (about $2MM I believe), they will wait to announce the signing so as not to piss off MLB more than they need to.
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#916208 - 08/03/09 11:43 AM Re: #2 in next years draft [Re: JFish26]
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Ahh I see. Well thats good that they are going to spend some money on a catcher cause the 2 we have now yikes.
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#916209 - 08/03/09 11:47 AM Re: #2 in next years draft [Re: Topcitykid10]
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Pena will be fine. You can compete for the Central with him catching. Now if we could just do something about Jacobs. And Betancourt. And Guillen. And every pitcher not named Greinke, Meche, Bannister, or Soria.
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#916210 - 08/03/09 12:19 PM Re: #2 in next years draft [Re: JFish26]
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Yeah I think they should lock up Billy in the offseason cause he is going to be a solid hitter.
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#916211 - 08/03/09 01:10 PM Re: #2 in next years draft [Re: Topcitykid10]
JFish26 Offline
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I don't know...he's under control for a few more years, and 1B/DH-types aren't the ones you pay for.
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#916212 - 08/03/09 01:28 PM Re: #2 in next years draft [Re: JFish26]
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Registered: 04/09/09
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how do you justify Pena as a catcher that we can contend with?

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#916213 - 08/03/09 01:39 PM Re: #2 in next years draft [Re: theno1kufan]
JFish26 Offline
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Because, among AL catchers with as many or more plate appearances as Pena this season, only four have a higher OPS. Granted, he's exceeding projections, but even the projections have him hitting better than league average (for all players). You'll take that out of your catcher any day. Pena's not part of the problem.
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#916214 - 08/03/09 09:33 PM Re: #2 in next years draft [Re: JFish26]
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Who is Myers? I thought they took Crow first round




Wil Myers is a catcher they took in the fourth (I think?) who they had been rumored to be considering in the first. It's an example of the Royals finally spending some of the most cost-effective money in baseball: overpay for premium guys beyond the first-round of the draft. It's probably the single quickest way to fix a farm system, and it continues a promising trend (Melville last year).

However, because they're going to pay Myers first-round money (about $2MM I believe), they will wait to announce the signing so as not to piss off MLB more than they need to.




Apparently they have pissed off Selig with their bonus offer to Myers. Peter Gammons has blogged that Selig is threatening to withhold the promised All-Star game from KC if they follow through with the Meyers offer.
Looks like a double standard, where is the outrage when the Yankees overpay for international talent?
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#916215 - 08/03/09 09:42 PM Re: #2 in next years draft [Re: jammahawk]
JFish26 Offline
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That's selig's job--to look out for the owners. Everything will be fine. This is just how the game is played.
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#916216 - 08/04/09 08:32 AM Re: #2 in next years draft [Re: jammahawk]
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Quote:

Quote:

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Who is Myers? I thought they took Crow first round




Wil Myers is a catcher they took in the fourth (I think?) who they had been rumored to be considering in the first. It's an example of the Royals finally spending some of the most cost-effective money in baseball: overpay for premium guys beyond the first-round of the draft. It's probably the single quickest way to fix a farm system, and it continues a promising trend (Melville last year).

However, because they're going to pay Myers first-round money (about $2MM I believe), they will wait to announce the signing so as not to piss off MLB more than they need to.




Apparently they have pissed off Selig with their bonus offer to Myers. Peter Gammons has blogged that Selig is threatening to withhold the promised All-Star game from KC if they follow through with the Meyers offer.
Looks like a double standard, where is the outrage when the Yankees overpay for international talent?





Have they announced the All star game for sure or just a rumor for right now?
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#916217 - 08/04/09 08:52 AM Re: #2 in next years draft [Re: Topcitykid10]
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Fenway's also trying to get the 2012 game. It turns 100 that year. Never mind they had one in 1999.
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#916218 - 08/11/09 11:09 AM Re: #2 in next years draft [Re: oreadical]
JFish26 Offline
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Fenway's also trying to get the 2012 game. It turns 100 that year. Never mind they had one in 1999.




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Fenway's also trying to get the 2012 game. It turns 100 that year. Never mind they had one in 1999.




This kind of thing amuses me...here's the logic chain:

--> The Royals go over slot to sign Moustakas, Hosmer, and Melville (among others).
--> The Royals draft Wil Myers in the 4th round, who everyone knows will need to be overpaid to sign.
--> The Royals are supposedly awarded the 2012 All-Star Game.
--> The Royals overpay Myers.
--> Selig allegedly threatens to take back the 2012 All-Star Game because the Royals overpaid Myers. Boston is rumored to be in contention.
-->
Boston overpays their 10th round pick by about 500%.
--> People should stop worrying.
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#916219 - 08/11/09 12:39 PM Re: #2 in next years draft [Re: JFish26]
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Registered: 07/05/09
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Seeing an all-star game is definitely on my list of things I need to do before I die and if we get it here then that would be all the better.

Anybody know how Moustakas and Hosmer are doing by the way? Every time I go on mlb.com to look at affiliate stats nothing ever comes up.

Crow will get signed everyone knows that, even Hoch didn't go back in the draft twice.

With the pick at #2, we need a college impact bat. A real Ryan Braun or Evan Longoria type to produce immediately.
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#916220 - 08/11/09 02:01 PM Re: #2 in next years draft [Re: jamboslice]
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#916221 - 08/11/09 11:07 PM Re: #2 in next years draft [Re: JFish26]
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Fenway's also trying to get the 2012 game. It turns 100 that year. Never mind they had one in 1999.




Quote:

Fenway's also trying to get the 2012 game. It turns 100 that year. Never mind they had one in 1999.




This kind of thing amuses me...here's the logic chain:

--> The Royals go over slot to sign Moustakas, Hosmer, and Melville (among others).
--> The Royals draft Wil Myers in the 4th round, who everyone knows will need to be overpaid to sign.
--> The Royals are supposedly awarded the 2012 All-Star Game.
--> The Royals overpay Myers.
--> Selig allegedly threatens to take back the 2012 All-Star Game because the Royals overpaid Myers. Boston is rumored to be in contention.
-->
Boston overpays their 10th round pick by about 500%.
--> People should stop worrying.




And you wonder why I call NY and Boston the evil empires. Thanks for finding yet another example that illustrates the point.
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#916222 - 08/12/09 12:05 PM Re: #2 in next years draft [Re: jayhwk01]
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Why is that a bad thing? It's exactly what the Royals are (and should be) doing.
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#916223 - 08/12/09 08:27 PM Re: #2 in next years draft [Re: JFish26]
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The bad thing is that there seems to be a double standard. Boston and New York are allowed to overspend and all is good, KC does it, and there is hell to pay.
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#916224 - 08/12/09 08:28 PM Re: #2 in next years draft [Re: JFish26]
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Agreed Fish the Royals should play by the market other team established. I should have been more clear. The fact that the Bostons and NY's of the world get the blind eye is what irritates me.
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