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#903224 - 07/14/09 08:52 PM Z in...
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Max Falkenstien

Registered: 03/17/05
Loc: KC, MO
Z out, I'm afraid.

Electric inning though.
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#903225 - 07/14/09 08:53 PM Re: Z in... [Re: JFish26]
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Registered: 11/08/06
Two strikeouts. Only pitcher with a strikeout against a position player. Why did Halladay start again?
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#903226 - 07/14/09 08:56 PM Re: Z in... [Re: WaHawk04]
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Max Falkenstien

Registered: 03/17/05
Loc: KC, MO
Maybe he gets another. Pitcher's spot just hit and Zack's obviously on his game.
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#903227 - 07/14/09 08:56 PM Re: Z in... [Re: WaHawk04]
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Junior Jayhawk

Registered: 03/01/06
Loc: Santa Monica, CA
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Two strikeouts. Only pitcher with a strikeout against a position player. Why did Halladay start again?




Definitely would have provided a great forum to display his filthy stuff - woulda been much more entertaining than Halladay. Nonetheless he got it on display pretty well and Buck actually addressed him unlike with Soria last year.

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#903228 - 07/14/09 08:58 PM Re: Z in... [Re: RockersChalk]
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Max Falkenstien

Registered: 03/17/05
Loc: KC, MO
My bad...Z's done.
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#903229 - 07/14/09 08:58 PM Re: Z in... [Re: RockersChalk]
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At least Crawford got a single, but this is exactly why I stopped following baseball around 6 years ago. The game is a complete joke on all levels.
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#903230 - 07/14/09 09:01 PM Re: Z in... [Re: WaHawk04]
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Junior Jayhawk

Registered: 03/01/06
Loc: Santa Monica, CA
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At least Crawford got a single, but this is exactly why I stopped following baseball around 6 years ago. The game is a complete joke on all levels.




How's that? A lot of arguments for it being the purest, most fundamentally sound game (no that doesn't factor in steroids, just the game itself)

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#903231 - 07/14/09 09:02 PM Re: Z in... [Re: RockersChalk]
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Registered: 11/08/06
I love the game, I hate MLB.
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#903232 - 07/14/09 09:02 PM Re: Z in... [Re: RockersChalk]
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Max Falkenstien

Registered: 03/17/05
Loc: KC, MO
Ah jeez...wa, I don't think you should judge the game based on its all-star game.
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#903233 - 07/14/09 09:05 PM Re: Z in... [Re: JFish26]
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Why not, it's a microcosm for the game as a whole. MLB plays to their 'stars' worse than the NBA and NFL combined. Not to mention the lack of competitive balance (which is basically a violation of the anti-trust exemption they receive)
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#903234 - 07/14/09 09:06 PM Re: Z in... [Re: JFish26]
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Junior Jayhawk

Registered: 03/01/06
Loc: Santa Monica, CA
save when Greinke was on the mound there has been some serious hitting taking place tonight, even most of the outs have been crushed.

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#903235 - 07/14/09 09:21 PM Re: Z in... [Re: WaHawk04]
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Max Falkenstien

Registered: 03/17/05
Loc: KC, MO
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Why not, it's a microcosm for the game as a whole. MLB plays to their 'stars' worse than the NBA and NFL combined. Not to mention the lack of competitive balance (which is basically a violation of the anti-trust exemption they receive)




Can you explain what you mean by playing to the stars? I haven't heard that criticism before.

And a look at recent world series matchups shows that MLB might have a great deal more parity than you think.
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#903236 - 07/14/09 09:37 PM Re: Z in... [Re: JFish26]
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John Brown

Registered: 07/05/09
Loc: Overland Park, KS
The only star the play to is Jeter because he is a giant b*tch.
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#903237 - 07/14/09 10:41 PM Re: Z in... [Re: JFish26]
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Registered: 11/08/06
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Quote:

Why not, it's a microcosm for the game as a whole. MLB plays to their 'stars' worse than the NBA and NFL combined. Not to mention the lack of competitive balance (which is basically a violation of the anti-trust exemption they receive)




Can you explain what you mean by playing to the stars? I haven't heard that criticism before.

And a look at recent world series matchups shows that MLB might have a great deal more parity than you think.




Barry, Mark, Sammy.

As for the WS argument, that is the great con of MLB. While every once in a while a small market team can challenge for a WS, they will eventually be stripped of their talent and have to rebuild again (and hope players develop together). MLB has been, imo, lucky that some of these smaller market teams have done so well as of late, but by and large, the small market teams can not compete on a year in and year out basis like the big boys do. But, since we get a wild card WS champion once in while, all of a sudden that means parody. Take a look at the standings and every year the bulk of the cellar teams are always small market teams.

Sorry fish, not trying to pick a fight with you, but I've had it with MLB. And we haven't even brought up the Players Unions yet.
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#903238 - 07/14/09 10:41 PM Re: Z in... [Re: WaHawk04]
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Oops, one more star.

Roy.
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#903239 - 07/14/09 10:50 PM Re: Z in... [Re: WaHawk04]
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Max Falkenstien

Registered: 03/17/05
Loc: KC, MO
Not looking for a fight at all. I guess my view of things is that the system is pretty darned fair; smart organizations are rewarded and dumb ones punished. Free agency is no longer the most viable path to success. I'm very confident that baseball's moving the right direction.

In any case, I can sympathize with your frustrations about financial imbalances and the unbelievable strength of the MLBPA--it's the strongest union in the country.
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#903240 - 07/15/09 02:13 AM Re: Z in... [Re: JFish26]
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--it's the strongest union in the country.




Without question.
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#903241 - 07/15/09 08:24 AM Re: Z in... [Re: WaHawk04]
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Registered: 01/02/05
Loc: In the Corleone compound
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--it's the strongest union in the country.




Without question.




As a former member of two different unions, I will agree that it is the strongest, but I will also argue that IMO, MLBPA is the union that offers the least support to it's other union brothers. MLBPA has no problem crossing looking the other way in a labor dispute, just as long as they get theirs.
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#903242 - 07/16/09 09:51 AM Re: Z in... [Re: jammahawk]
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Max Falkenstien

Registered: 03/17/05
Loc: KC, MO
Zack on the cerebral palsy kid in the wheelchair:

"The neatest part to me was the kind that was in that wheelchair. I was just saying congratulations and everything and he was just normal. Then Derek Jeter came over and he seriously almost jumped out of his chair for Jeter."
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