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#252 - 09/24/03 11:47 AM Stage is set. Predictions here for the War
The_Pimp Offline
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51-51-9: The series


This game is shaping up to be so PIMP! The undefeated and 23rd-ranked Missouri Tigers are set to take on a surprising group of Kansas Jayhawks this weekend in a Big 12 battle from Lawrence. Missouri enters this game 4-0 for only the 12th time in the history of the program, as it is fresh off a come-from-behind 41-40 overtime victory against Middle Tennessee State. The last time the team captured victories in its first four games was 1981, and a win Saturday would make the Tigers the seventh team in school history to start 5-0. Considering that their next two games will come against Nebraska at home and Oklahoma on the road, a win in this conference opener is crucial. After all, Missouri hasn't beat Nebraska in Columbia since 1973 and hasn't knocked off Oklahoma in Norman since 1966. As for our Hawks, we suffered a narrow defeat to Big Ten opponent Northwestern in the opener, but the squad has since rebounded to run off three consecutive victories. Most recently, the Jayhawks rolled over Jacksonville State by a score of 41-6 in Lawrence last weekend. A win on Saturday would give them a 4-1 record for the first time since the 1997 season and a four game winning streak for the first time since 1995. Also, Kansas has a chance to snap a five-game skid in Big 12 openers. This border war series, which began in 1891,
is the second-oldest series in Division I-A (behind Minnesota-Wisconsin) and the oldest series west of the Mississippi River. The series is tied 51-51-9, and the Tigers have won the last two matchups. Unfortunately, I think this is the toughest Mizzou squad Kansas has faced under Mangino.

*Teams are averaging 23.3 ppg against Kansas and 407.2 ypg of total offense, and keeping Missouri at or below those numbers will undoubtedly be a tough task. Look at who we've played. Those are atrocious numbers.

*The Jayhawks have surrendered 13 touchdowns to opposing offenses, including eight on the ground. They have allowed opponents to make good on 44 percent of their third down conversion attempts. That is awful.

So let's start with people's predictions!


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#253 - 09/24/03 11:53 AM Re: Stage is set. Predictions here for the War [Re: The_Pimp]
hail2oldku Offline
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Registered: 08/07/03
Did you get banned again for not playing nice with Iowaboy?

At any rate - in answer to your posting. KU 41 - MU 38. This is assuming that KU ends up with the ball last since I think it is going to be a shoot-out all game long. It will most likely come down to turnover ratio - and I do like that our D has been a scoring threat itself all season even though it has given up some big plays as well.

RCJH - GO KU
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#254 - 09/24/03 11:55 AM Re: Stage is set. Predictions here for the War [Re: The_Pimp]
newtongirl Offline
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Registered: 01/02/03
Loc: Larryville
Either way I'm gonna be ham-mered.

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#255 - 09/24/03 12:23 PM Re: Stage is set. Predictions here for the War [Re: hail2oldku]
The_Pimp Offline
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Registered: 09/24/03
Loc: Pimpsville
Yeah, I guess the term "p*cker" is considered profanity, I really don't think so. Poor woodpeckers, I like those birds. Anyway....I agree, will be a shootout. Unfortunatly, I think our D is more porous than theirs. And Brad Smith, like MU or not, s PIMP. I hate this, but:

Mizzou 45
Kansas 24

(darnit!)


I agree with newtongirl, I will be wasted and it will be an awesome day, so it'll all be good!

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#256 - 09/24/03 01:13 PM Re: Stage is set. Predictions here for the War [Re: The_Pimp]
sdoyel Offline
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Registered: 09/23/03
Loc: Dallas
I think the KU special teams and D needs to step it up big and get us a touchdown or maybe 2. Our secondary is horrible, Smith if he gets time in the pocket can pass all day. Our linebackers and d line need to be really agressive, I like our chance better by keeping Smith on the ground actually. We need to win the toss and take it on O first. No turnovers or dumb mistakes, play sound on offense, make a big play on d or special teams and we win this game.

KU 33
MU 31
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#257 - 09/24/03 01:21 PM Re: Stage is set. Predictions here for the War [Re: sdoyel]
sdoyel Offline
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Registered: 09/23/03
Loc: Dallas
oh, did i mentioned ill be trashed as well..... (:O) Crossing anyone?
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#258 - 09/24/03 01:35 PM Re: Stage is set. Predictions here for the War [Re: sdoyel]
Leawood Offline
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Registered: 01/15/03
Loc: Now, The Plaza
What concerns me are the statements about KU's defense needing to generate turnovers and that it needs a touchdown or two from defense/special teams.

Folks, MU has had little if any turnovers. Just hasn't happened and, given KU's present defense "being a work in progress," I'm not counting on any breaks here.

That said, the one thing KU fans can consistently count on are stupid penalties by MU. Remember the 1997 game? Standing under the press box, I mentioned to another fan that they are just like the Raiders. Next play, with MU deep in KU territory, stupid penalty by MU.

What I anticipate seeing are a couple of drive killing penalties by MU. You know, one or two plays where the KU defense apparently gives up another first down on a 3rd and 12, only to see that lovely yellow flag lying on the turf, pushing them back another five or ten yards. If KU gets breaks like that, I smell victory.

Facing the cold hard facts, KU will need breaks like that along with a near flawless performance by the offense in order to secure victory. KU will also need to jump out to a 12 point and above lead.

I think it will happen. KU 31 MU 28


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#259 - 09/24/03 01:52 PM Re: Stage is set. Predictions here for the War [Re: Leawood]
copperhead Offline
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Registered: 08/29/02
I think playing in Lawrence will be a deciding factor. If the crowd stays in it, I think they get rattled. Also, can't play just two quarters like last week. Must play every down & keep 'em in a hole if we put 'em there.
Absolutely can't play from behind. If we get down by more than 14 points, big trouble.
If we play with the same intensity we showed in the first quarter last week, I can even see a blowout.

KU - 38
MU - 21
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#260 - 09/24/03 01:54 PM Re: Stage is set. Predictions here for the War [Re: copperhead]
newtongirl Offline
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Registered: 01/02/03
Loc: Larryville
When we win this town is gonna blow up. Luckily, I'll be rowdy enough to scare people. Some of my fairy friends are pessimistic and therefore not watching the game or listening on the radio. I'm very disappointed. So I'm gonna go out and blow up with the masses.

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#261 - 09/24/03 01:56 PM Re: Stage is set. Predictions here for the War [Re: newtongirl]
The_Pimp Offline
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Registered: 09/24/03
Loc: Pimpsville
Don't worry, the town won't blow. I would like to see a KU 'W' more than anything, but that Brad Smith kid is unreal. We could only hope to cover the spread....even that with our crap D, doesn't look good.

Do you have any hot friends, newtongirl?

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#262 - 09/24/03 01:58 PM Re: Stage is set. Predictions here for the War [Re: newtongirl]
copperhead Offline
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Registered: 08/29/02
But NO goalpost shenanigans. Tipping over their bus will send a much clearer message.
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#263 - 09/24/03 02:14 PM i trust all this in tongue in cheek? [Re: copperhead]
tmcats Offline
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Registered: 09/08/02
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#264 - 09/24/03 02:14 PM Re: Stage is set. Predictions here for the War [Re: copperhead]
TopekaJHawk Offline
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Registered: 09/07/03
Loc: Topeka, Kansas
Copper..........I agree......why should KU have to pay for new goalposts for the likes of them??? Tip the damn bus over and leave them to walk home.

I also think that a 14 pt deficit for us is going to be a big problem if they score on us, more than one time in a row...it might rattle our guys into NOT making their way back into it.

I also hope Beck is ON TARGET. We can't afford to miss a single opportunity Sat.

KU--42
miss-EEEWWW--31
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#265 - 09/24/03 02:19 PM Re: Stage is set. Predictions here for the War [Re: copperhead]
RManFlint Offline
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Registered: 09/13/02
Loc: Korova Milkbar
Say, Copper, ever heard of the Chicago 7? You wanna represent him, Leawood, or can I? That Cobra will make a REAL nice retainer!
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#266 - 09/24/03 02:31 PM Re: i trust all this in tongue in cheek? [Re: tmcats]
copperhead Offline
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Registered: 08/29/02
I didn't say with the team in it! Sheesh.
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#267 - 09/24/03 02:35 PM Re: i trust all this in tongue in cheek? [Re: copperhead]
TopekaJHawk Offline
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Registered: 09/07/03
Loc: Topeka, Kansas
Copper I didn't say w/ the team in it either.......however....now that it's been mentioned.......

Hee hee hee!!!
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#268 - 09/24/03 08:39 PM Thoughts on game [Re: TopekaJHawk]
Quinton Offline
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Registered: 09/21/03
KU ahead at half time KU wins.
Don't forget this is a rivalry and the Mizzou team in my opinion is overrated. I look for their QB to actually get knocked out of the game.
Beak em hawks

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#269 - 09/24/03 10:30 PM Re: Thoughts on game [Re: Quinton]
TopekaJHawk Offline
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Registered: 09/07/03
Loc: Topeka, Kansas
I won't say that Smith is entirely overrated...possibly a little. I think they have yet to put him up against a challenge....I agree w/ Quinton...I see him going down in the game big time. Everyone is focused on the goal posts etc. I am sure Whitt...and the gang have not forgotten Whitt was down and OUT after that game in MO, last year. I would not be a bit surprised to see the D go after Smith HARD & Early.
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#270 - 09/24/03 10:36 PM Re: Thoughts on game [Re: TopekaJHawk]
The_Pimp Offline
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Registered: 09/24/03
Loc: Pimpsville
Yet to put him against a challenge? Oh, I see...and Kansas is that challenge. Nevermind them playing OU last year, Nebraska, CU. Yep, KU football is his first challenge.


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#271 - 09/24/03 10:45 PM Re: Thoughts on game [Re: The_Pimp]
TopekaJHawk Offline
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Registered: 09/07/03
Loc: Topeka, Kansas
Oh pimp, don't start flopping on your posts now......
To take things out of context is NOT proving a point.
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#272 - 09/24/03 10:49 PM Re: Thoughts on game [Re: TopekaJHawk]
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Registered: 09/24/03
Loc: Pimpsville
Explain to me, oh wise one, how I am taking anything out of context?


PIMP

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#273 - 09/24/03 10:57 PM Re: Thoughts on game [Re: The_Pimp]
TopekaJHawk Offline
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Registered: 09/07/03
Loc: Topeka, Kansas
I was speaking, entirely of THIS year.
I was not speaking of his overall career. We aren't playing last years game over. We are playing this years game...........what real challenge has he faced this year? That was my point. And for what it's worth....I didn't mean for the last post to sound argumentative. It was more sarcastic humor than anything...I personally have enjoyed your posts today.
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#274 - 09/24/03 11:05 PM Re: Thoughts on game [Re: TopekaJHawk]
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Registered: 09/24/03
Loc: Pimpsville
Of course you have enjoyed them! They have been quite PIMP. Just kidding....

I think their season opener against Illinois was a good challenge, especially for a season opener. Illinois isn't a great team in the Big 10, but still they are a Big 10 team, and I think maybe UI is a bigger "challenge" than Kansas. However, this is the Border War, yet more and more Misery people these days are treating the Illinois-Mizzou rivalry as bigger than KU-MU. Probably because they can actually beat UI more often! Anyway, I get your point about this particular season, but I don't think you can ignore how great the kid played last year. This year is a new year and of course they aren't replaying the same games, but it is well known that with every year of experience a guy gets more skilled and more talented.

Having said that, I hope we beat the sh*t out of Smith and Misery!

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#275 - 09/24/03 11:23 PM Re: Stage is set. Predictions here for the War [Re: The_Pimp]
yovoy Offline
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Registered: 08/31/02
Loc: running amok
mu - 31
ku - 17

at least a 2 touchdown differential, but you'll see our guys grow up tons after this week.

i'll be catching stripers, wish i'd planned it for a different weekend. i apologize for not realizing.

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#276 - 09/24/03 11:25 PM Re: Stage is set. Predictions here for the War [Re: yovoy]
yovoy Offline
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Registered: 08/31/02
Loc: running amok
if it is indeed sold out/full, will someone take some pics and post them so that i can kind of see what i missed?

thank you.

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#277 - 09/24/03 11:56 PM Re: Stage is set. Predictions here for the War [Re: yovoy]
TopekaJHawk Offline
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Registered: 09/07/03
Loc: Topeka, Kansas
Oh I am sure that can be easily done.
I am taking my camera.........however is MU wins......the roll of film and camera might hit the river rather than Walgreen's photo lab.
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#278 - 09/25/03 09:55 AM Fox Sports Prediction [Re: Leawood]
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#279 - 09/25/03 10:02 AM Re: Fox Sports Prediction [Re: 1985hawk]
KUBowler99 Offline
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Registered: 10/16/02
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I'm not going to predict the score, but you can take the following to the bank:

Bet the over and
Take KU + 10.5 pts.

Good lord, if any one of you have a bookey, are going to Vegas or Atlantic City, or have an idiot moo friend...Bet the house.

KUBowler

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#280 - 09/25/03 10:07 AM Re: Fox Sports Prediction [Re: KUBowler99]
1985hawk Offline
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Registered: 04/24/03
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On Fox Sports they also give odds from different bookies. One bookie has reduced their line to 10.
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#281 - 09/25/03 10:09 AM Re: Fox Sports Prediction [Re: 1985hawk]
KUBowler99 Offline
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Registered: 10/16/02
Loc: Jaybowl, Lane 13
Unless it gets under 7 or 8, I wouldn't hesitate.

Great, now I sound like Don King and Johnnie Cocharan.

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#282 - 09/25/03 10:50 AM Re: Fox Sports Prediction [Re: KUBowler99]
The_Pimp Offline
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Registered: 09/24/03
Loc: Pimpsville
You don't need a bookie or Vegas. Internet gambling sites are very reliable and quasi-legal. Hopefully the idiot Senator from Iowa doesn't get his offshore internet gambling bill passed. But that is years off. Anyway, I like Sportsbook.com and World Sports Exchange . Both have many options for payout and payouts are immediate. No Over/Under listed yet, BUT KU is down to +9.5!!!! So money is coming in on the Hawks!

I like the over in this game...whatever it may be. Will be an old Border War style shootout!

PS. Nebraska/SouthernMiss tonight...the O/U is 37! What is this, the NFL? I have never seen an O/U that low. Lowest I had seen was 40. Interesting! I'd lay a few on NU, SoMiss sucks. They can't score points. Go freaking figure, their OC is that loser dude named Rip that used to be here. I am taking Nebraska -10.5, they will win by 17-20.

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