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#20785 - 01/08/07 04:43 PM Re: i have no clue on recruits... [Re: tmcats]
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Max Falkenstein

Registered: 01/31/03
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several, i believe 9, recruits were by morris.

and assuming the coaches left because of their choice is not wise.




You think he cleaned house after his first season? Speaking of "not wise"...
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#20786 - 01/08/07 04:51 PM yes... [Re: jayhawk154]
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Wilt Chamberlain

Registered: 09/08/02
Loc: reservation lake, mn
i think several of these departures were mutual. i wonder if ron freeman might join the staff now. he'd be a good one.
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#20787 - 01/08/07 05:11 PM Re: It's not like the litterbox is...... [Re: tmcats]
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Wilt Chamberlain

Registered: 09/01/02
Loc: Topeka, Kansas
Is LOSING years and years of D-1 coaching experience when any of the staff, including Prince Ron decides to depart!
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#20788 - 01/08/07 06:38 PM Re: i have no clue on recruits... [Re: tmcats]
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Wilt Chamberlain

Registered: 01/23/05
Loc: Wichita, KS
looks like Prince is losing his coaching staff. Hmm.. interesting.

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#20789 - 01/09/07 08:34 AM Re: Might have been part of the "DEAL"... [Re: tmcats]
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Wilt Chamberlain

Registered: 09/01/02
Loc: Topeka, Kansas
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i think several of these departures were mutual. i wonder if ron freeman might join the staff now. he'd be a good one.




Not uncommon in hoops.....we got a two for one with Mario in hoops, the Manning's too.....not a parent, but way back when, we landed Valentine after hiring his HS Coach (Norwood).

Did Prince Ron make the deal? I'm betting he did...and that Freeman will soon be a litterbox assistant!

BTW: If you REALLY wanna see "Bold & Daring" you need to become a Bronco or Gator.

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#20790 - 01/09/07 11:37 AM i heard from a very... [Re: beenahawk]
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Wilt Chamberlain

Registered: 09/08/02
Loc: reservation lake, mn
reliable source last night that morris (bucs) and cole (aTm) both got deals that ksu could not match.

horton got a coordinator's job at the usafa.

so this suggests these were all strong coaches that others wanted more than state could afford.
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#20791 - 01/09/07 12:32 PM Re: i heard from a very... [Re: tmcats]
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Max Falkenstien

Registered: 11/06/05
Loc: LA, CA
Nice try, tm. I might buy that if these guys helped lead KSU to a BCS bowl. The Cats were blown out in their last two games. It has been discussed by many of your fellow grapes that there were some problems between Prince and his staff.

I guess we'll find out soon how much they're making at their new jobs.

Any word on recruiting problems? Any decommits, etc?
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#20792 - 01/09/07 02:41 PM nice try? [Re: trojanhawk]
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Wilt Chamberlain

Registered: 09/08/02
Loc: reservation lake, mn
what, you are calling me a liar?
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#20793 - 01/09/07 02:51 PM Re: nice try? [Re: tmcats]
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Wilt Chamberlain

Registered: 09/13/02
Loc: Korova Milkbar
Petro said one of them (the D Coordinator?) left to go back to the NFL because his wife couldn't stand Manhattan.
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#20794 - 01/09/07 03:02 PM Re: nice try? [Re: tmcats]
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Max Falkenstien

Registered: 11/06/05
Loc: LA, CA
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what, you are calling me a liar?




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so this suggests these were all strong coaches that others wanted more than state could afford.




This is just speculation. You honestly believe that a team, fresh off of two blowout losses, would lose several assistants because "they were all strong coaches"? I have a hard time believing that money was the reason.

It's all speculation, so I'll wait until more facts become public.
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#20795 - 01/09/07 03:27 PM trojan... [Re: trojanhawk]
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Wilt Chamberlain

Registered: 09/08/02
Loc: reservation lake, mn
it is a fact that these things have occurred. would you call any of them a demotion or lateral?

aTm took cole as their new strength coach.
morris is now defensive back coach for the bucs.
horton is o-coordinator for the air force academy.

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/scorecard/cfootballnews.asp?articleID=187557

how can you draw any conclusion other than those three guys are quality coaches in-demand by others?
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#20796 - 01/09/07 03:40 PM Tm? [Re: tmcats]
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Max Falkenstien

Registered: 11/06/05
Loc: LA, CA
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Raheem Morris, defensive coordinator ... gone.

Tim Horton, running back coach ... gone.

Tim McCarty, offensive line/assistant head coach ... gone.

Rod Cole, strength and conditioning coach ... gone.

James Franklin, offensive coordinator ... we'll see.




Quote:

Pat Washington, the wide receivers coach, is also apparently out, according to a source.




It's fairly obvious that this isn't about major promotions. Morris returned to a team he'd been a part of for many years. Do you know that Cole is making more at A&M? Does the AFA pay their coaches well?

You honestly aren't concerned that the whole staff might be gone after ONE season?


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#20797 - 01/09/07 03:43 PM Re: trojan... [Re: tmcats]
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Max Falkenstein

Registered: 01/31/03
Quote:

it is a fact that these things have occurred. would you call any of them a demotion or lateral?

aTm took cole as their new strength coach.
morris is now defensive back coach for the bucs.
horton is o-coordinator for the air force academy.

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/scorecard/cfootballnews.asp?articleID=187557

how can you draw any conclusion other than those three guys are quality coaches in-demand by others?




He's laid out his logic and reasoning which is as valid as your assumptions. D-Coordinator at a D1 BCS school vs. DB coach in NFL...hmmm...
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#20798 - 01/09/07 03:44 PM trojan... [Re: jayhawk154]
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Wilt Chamberlain

Registered: 09/08/02
Loc: reservation lake, mn
i was told last night these coaches all received pay packages that ksu was unwilling to meet.
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#20799 - 01/09/07 03:47 PM Re: trojan... [Re: tmcats]
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Max Falkenstein

Registered: 01/31/03
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i was told last night these coaches all received pay packages that ksu was unwilling to meet.




And, you believe everything you were told? It's called 'packaging', timmy.

I mean, seriously, tell me about the one where the guy left the D1 BCS Defensive Coordinator position to take the NFL DB coach's gig again. That's my favorite.

If it's true...I certainly wouldn't be bragging about it.
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