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#2040728 - 05/11/19 07:31 PM Re: The Blue Bloods? [Re: PHOGUSHER]
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Max Falkenstien

Registered: 01/18/08
Guess you have a problem with some humor having a touch of sarcasm. Re-read the final paragraph of my original post to see what I actually advocate concerning blue bloods. However, I actually agree with you 100% as to the criteria for blue bloods you just gave. There has been a lot of nonsense posted here and I've been responding to the nonsense. Loosen up!

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#2040729 - 05/11/19 09:46 PM Re: The Blue Bloods? [Re: Jayhawk1952]
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Its your sphincter thats tighter than a closed rusted vice after a week of rain...I am loose as Jimbos love canal after the fleet comes in...lol old man...
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#2040740 - 05/13/19 04:43 PM Re: The Blue Bloods? [Re: Jayhawk1952]
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Max Falkenstien

Registered: 01/18/08
When determining who the NCAA Blue Bloods are, we need to look at the numbers and not who our favorites are. The following stats should help to determine who the Blue Bloods are. These are for all time season results as well as several for the NCAA Tourney. The top 10 are listed in the various categories as well as some who’ve been mentioned as possibilities for being a Blue Blood. Their ranking is the number preceding their name. I’ve given at least five different categories on which to base a decision. More factors could be considered including conference championships. But I haven’t.

All Time Season totals:
School . . . . . .Wins . . Losses . .$age. . Seasons
UK . . . . . . . . . 2293. . . 706. . . . .765 . . 116
KU . . . . . . . . ..2274. . . 865. . . . .724. . .121
UNC. . . . . . . . 2261. . . 799 . . . . 739. . .109
Duke. . . . . . . . 2176. . . 887. . . . .710 . . 114
Temple. . . . . . 1926 . .1079 . . . . .641 . . 123
Cuse. . . . . . . . 1904. . . 908 . . . . .667 . . 118
UCLA . . . . . . . 1887 . . .852. . . . . 689. . 100
N. Dame . . . . .1880 . .1028 . . . . .646. . 114
St. John. . . . . .1854. . 1029. . . . .643. . .112
Indiana. . . . . . 1836 . .1034. . . . .640. . .119
27Mic. St. . . . .1721 . .1088. . . . .613. . .120
28UConn. . . . .1712 . . .979 . . . . .637. . 116
37Zaga . . . . . .1668. . .1098. . . . .603 . . 111

Only three schools have won over 2,200 games, one has won over 2,100 games and two over 1,900. Only four have a .700 winning record. They're the same four schools that have won over 2,100 games. Only two other schools have won over 1900 games. That will soon change. Only one other team is remotely close to a .700 winning percentage, UCLA.

NCAA Tourney Records for top 10 appearing + 3 others:
School . . . . Appear . S16 . E8 . F4 . .Final . Champ
1UK . . . . . . . . 58 . . . . 44 . . .38 . .17 . . 12 . . . . .8
2UNC. . . . . . . 50 . . . . 34 . . .28 . .20 . . 11 . . . . .6
3KU. . . . . . . . .48. . . . .31 . . .24 . .15 . . . 9 . . . . .3
4UCLA . . . . . .47. . . . .33 . . .21 . .17 . . 12 . . . .11
5Duke . . . . . . .43. . . . .31 . . .22 . .16 . . 11 . . . . .5
6Cuse . . . . . . .40 . . . . 23 . . .10 . . . 6. . . 3 . . . . .1
7Indiana . . . . . 39 . . . . 22. . . 11 . . . 8. . . 6 . . . . .5
8Louisville . . . .38 . . . . 17 . . .13 . . . 5. . . 3 . . . . .3
9Nova . . . . . . .39 . . . . 17. . .13 . . . 5. . . 3 . . . . . 3
10N. Dame. . . .36 . . . . 17. . . .7 . . . 1. . . 0 . . . . . 0
15 Mg. St. . . . . 33. . . . .20 . . 14 . . 10. . . 3 . . . . . 2
16 Temple. . . . .33. . . . . .7 . . . 8 . . . 2. . . 0 . . . . . 0
42 Zaga . . . . . . 22. . . . .10 . . . 4 . . . 1. . . 1 . . . . .0

This chart has listed in order of NCAA appearances. Also, the number of times a team has reached the S16, etc. are given. Only 15 teams have won more than one title. An additional 21 have won one title. The tourney covers 81 seasons. This shows how difficult it is to win a championship and how few teams have been able to do so. It is still a big accomplishment just to get invited to the tournament.

NCAA Tourney Total Games, Wins & %ages & Consec. App.
School. . . . . . Games .Wins losses . %age - - consecutive app.
UK . . . . . . . . . 172 . . . 130 . 53 . . .751 - - - - - -KU . . . 30*
UNC. . . . . . . . 172 . . . 125. .47 . . .729 - - - - - UNC . . 27
KU. . . . . . . . . .155 . . . 108. .47 . . .697 - - - - - Duke . . 24*
Duke. . . . . . . . 154 . . . 115. .39 . . .748 - - - - - -Mic. St. 22*
UCLA. . . . . . . 148 . . . 106. .42 . . .716 - - - - - -Zaga. . . 21*
Louisville. . . . 121 . . . . 77. . 44 . . .636 - - - - - -Wis. . . .19
Cuse . . . . . . . .109 . . . . 69. . 40 . . .633 - - - - - -Ind. . . . 18
Indiana . . . . . .100 . . . . 66. . 34 . . .660 - - - - - UK . . . .17
Nova. . . . . . . .100 . . . . 65 . .37 . . .637 - - - - - UCLA. . 15
Mich. St . . . . . .99 . . . . 67. . 32 . . .677 - - - - - G. Twn .14
UCONN. . . . . . 89 . . . . 59. . 30 . . .663 - - - - - Azon. . .14
Florida. . . . . . . .69 . . . . .49. . 20. . .710 - - - - - Cincin. . 14
N. Dame . . . . . .78. . . . . 38. . 40. . .487 - - - - - Texas . . 14
Temple . . . . . . .65 . . . . ..33 . .32. . .508
Zaga . . . . . . . . .54 . . . . . 32 . .22. . .593
*Current consecutive appearances

These are the top 15 schools in games played in the tourney and the top 10 in consecutive appearances. There were eight teams invited to the tournament each of the first 12 years. That was increased to 16 in 1951 for the next 12 years. It was incrementally increased during the following years until in 1985 it was set at 64. In 2011 the number was increased to 68 with four play-in games. So it was much more difficult to get into the tournament during those earlier years.

Look it over and see who you think should be considered Blue Bloods. I am still sticking with the four obvious teams: UK, KU, UNC and Duke. The only other team that I see as a possibility is UCLA and I’ve already shared my thoughts about them. I do believe that the author of the original article was off base on some he suggested as possibilities.

The NCAA Tournament should carry some weight, but certainly not any more than the full season and most likely less. Every team gets to play a full season. That makes for about a 30 game schedule plus the conference tourneys. The results of the full season and conference tourneys provide the basis of who gets into the Big Dance. That is at most six games and only two teams get to play that many. As we all know, the best team does not always win the tournament. Several times a team has gotten hot during the tournament and has won all the marbles, including the 1988 KU team. Doubtless, several of these teams would not have won it all in a rematch of their games to the title.

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#2040742 - 05/13/19 04:53 PM Re: The Blue Bloods? [Re: Jayhawk1952]
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Oh crap this sorry old hayseed must have harvested the back 40. Now he is going to bore us with facts anyone with Internet access could look up. Guess he has to do something with himself...like waste internet space...
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#2040743 - 05/13/19 05:02 PM Re: The Blue Bloods? [Re: Jayhawk1952]
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Registered: 10/13/04
Loc: Ozarks
Thanks 52 appreciate the info. Go suck a tube steak phogo.
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#2040744 - 05/13/19 06:09 PM Re: The Blue Bloods? [Re: Jayhawk1952]
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I will whip your arse sucka. Nbd...sure 52 lengthy diatribe would be of use to those that even cared to could research themselves. Most true college hoops fans have already determined who they think are the true blue bloods. Its the same as 52's novel points out...that being UK..KU...UNC...and Puke...UCLA on the fringe. There is no need for a 50000 word novella to prove those facts..
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#2040745 - 05/13/19 06:52 PM Re: The Blue Bloods? [Re: madcapper]
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Max Falkenstien

Registered: 01/18/08
Originally Posted By: madcapper
Thanks 52 appreciate the info. Go suck a tube steak phogo.


Thanks. You have to take Phoggy with a grain of salt. He has a terribly loud bark but a much less menacing bit. I enjoy putting together such stats. It does take some time but I believe it results with some worthwhile info. No one has to read what I write, including old Phoggy, but I suspect a good number do.

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#2040746 - 05/13/19 09:00 PM Re: The Blue Bloods? [Re: Jayhawk1952]
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Registered: 11/29/12
Originally Posted By: Jayhawk1952
long pointless spin post


None of this changes the only stat that matters: national championships.

5 is minimum for blue blood status. A bunch of wins against inferior competition doesn't mean [censored].
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#2040747 - 05/13/19 09:01 PM Re: The Blue Bloods? [Re: Jayhawk1952]
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I wasted my time and read all of your obvious to everyone post. But hey thanks for your efforts..because you're a old cowhand on da Rio Grande....lol.
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#2040748 - 05/13/19 11:43 PM Re: The Blue Bloods? [Re: PHOGUSHER]
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Max Falkenstien

Registered: 01/18/08
Sorry you went and wasted you time, but glad you read my book. I'm enjoying watching the beautiful green wheat waving in the gentle breeze as a beautiful sunset once again forms in the Western blue sky while the Western meadow lark sings away and the hawk glides over the cool breeze. Soon it will be time to hit the hay as I listen to the coyote howl in the darkness and I soon fall fast asleep dreaming of the upcoming Jayhawk basketball season bringing more jubilant wins and another waltz to the Big Dance for our 31st consecutive trip. The dream will probably be topped off with another good laugh at some dumb post by JW about how bad he think are Jayhawks are. Maybe JW stands for Jumbled Whinner! His thinking is all jumbled up and he is quite a whinner. All this just gives me more reason to awaken alive and well, ready to give a toast to the Blue Blood Kansas Jayhawks, one of four great Blue Blood Basketball teams of all of college basketball! What a wonderful life it is!

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#2040749 - 05/13/19 11:57 PM Re: The Blue Bloods? [Re: Jayhawk1952]
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Originally Posted By: Jayhawk1952
Sorry you went and wasted you time, but glad you read my book. I'm enjoying watching the beautiful green wheat waving in the gentle breeze as a beautiful sunset once again forms in the Western blue sky while the Western meadow lark sings away and the hawk glides over the cool breeze. Soon it will be time to hit the hay as I listen to the coyote howl in the darkness and I soon fall fast asleep dreaming of the upcoming Jayhawk basketball season bringing more jubilant wins and another waltz to the Big Dance for our 31st consecutive trip. The dream will probably be topped off with another good laugh at some dumb post by JW about how bad he think are Jayhawks are. Maybe JW stands for Jumbled Whinner! His thinking is all jumbled up and he is quite a whinner. All this just gives me more reason to awaken alive and well, ready to give a toast to the Blue Blood Kansas Jayhawks, one of four great Blue Blood Basketball teams of all of college basketball! What a wonderful life it is!


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prairie_madness
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#2040750 - 05/14/19 01:12 AM Re: The Blue Bloods? [Re: JimWest]
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Max Falkenstien

Registered: 01/18/08
Dream on mad dreamer. All is well on the great prairies.

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#2040751 - 05/14/19 09:34 AM Re: The Blue Bloods? [Re: Jayhawk1952]
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Registered: 11/01/05
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Prairie madness...lol...good one Jimbo Elrod..
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#2040752 - 05/14/19 09:42 AM Re: The Blue Bloods? [Re: Jayhawk1952]
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Registered: 11/01/05
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Also try to understand this 52. Jimbo may be a SanFran YMCA Nancy boy but he has never said he dislikes the Jayhawks. In fact I am pretty sure KU is his team of choice. What he has stated is he doesnt think they are a blue blood team due to underachieving ..and they have underachieved especially in the tournament. 3 NCs out of 9 chances to win it all is pathetic. They need to do better when given that opportunity.


Edited by PHOGUSHER (05/14/19 09:43 AM)
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#2040753 - 05/14/19 09:52 AM Re: The Blue Bloods? [Re: Jayhawk1952]
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Registered: 10/13/04
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Opinions are like azzholes Phogo, everyone has one. Just because they don't agree with you doesnt make them wrong. Lighten up and let everyone have a say without your interrnet tough guy replies.
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