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#2035827 - 11/18/18 08:50 PM Coordinators
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Who should we hire to be the new Offensive and Defensive Coordinators? One name I saw being thrown out in the press conference for OC Was Hugh Freeze
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#2035833 - 11/18/18 09:43 PM Re: Coordinators [Re: Josh2408]
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Originally Posted By: Josh2408
Who should we hire to be the new Offensive and Defensive Coordinators? One name I saw being thrown out in the press conference for OC Was Hugh Freeze
Why would a current head coach want to become a coordinator? Just say'in.
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#2035834 - 11/18/18 09:48 PM Re: Coordinators [Re: Josh2408]
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My bad. I thought he was still at Ole Miss. He is currently offensive coordinator in a minor league football team. He would be a good one.
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#2035913 - 11/20/18 04:55 PM Re: Coordinators [Re: Josh2408]
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Miles said he would be actively on the prowl starting Monday. Today would be Day 2. By now there should at least be a list of preferred candidates, if that part wasn't already done.
There was word that Long had done some work in that regard prior to official announcement of Miles.
Sure would be fun to know who we're looking at. Miles also said he would be interviewing every member of the existing staff. Assume that would feature Hull. Wonder if it includes Beatty? smile
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#2035915 - 11/20/18 05:00 PM Re: Coordinators [Re: appyhawk]
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Originally Posted By: appyhawk
Miles said he would be actively on the prowl starting Monday. Today would be Day 2. By now there should at least be a list of preferred candidates, if that part wasn't already done.
There was word that Long had done some work in that regard prior to official announcement of Miles.
Sure would be fun to know who we're looking at. Miles also said he would be interviewing every member of the existing staff. Assume that would feature Hull. Wonder if it includes Beatty? smile



I believe he will look at all the current assistants.........he will NOT consider Beaty for a coaching slot, nor should Beaty accept if it is offered. That will create way too much confusion for the players as well as possible friction between Miles and Beaty. Depending on how well Long gets along with DB and vice-versa, Beaty might land a job on the support staff, but I'm more inclined to think one of those spots will go to Bowen if he isn't retained as DC.

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#2035916 - 11/20/18 05:25 PM Re: Coordinators [Re: Josh2408]
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DB is qualified to run the video projector. But nothing else. He is a millionaire so there’s that...
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#2036030 - 11/23/18 06:19 PM Re: Coordinators [Re: Josh2408]
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It's been 5 days, not counting whatever was done prior to announcement. Gotta think by now there has been some movement.
Kudos to our roster (and current staff) for posting two very solid efforts to close out the season. That can't hurt anything.
At any rate it's been long enough I'm ready to hear some news, and expecting it could emerge as soon as tomorrow.
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#2036034 - 11/23/18 07:27 PM Re: Coordinators [Re: Josh2408]
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I agree Appy. The game today, like the KSU game was the epitome of Beaty's tenure at KU. Improvement, competition, but ultimately ending up short. He was thrown to the wolves and did the most that we could expect from him in the sense that he DID leave the program better than he found it. Something you cannot say about any coach since Mangino. I wish him well. Had he had another couple years, we would've seen a 6 win season (possibly), but would've been relegated to the Mountain West when realignment comes.

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#2036112 - 11/26/18 08:24 AM Re: Coordinators [Re: Josh2408]
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Any chance the AD agrees to hiring Bobby Petrino as OC if that is who Coach Miles wants?

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#2036277 - 11/29/18 06:44 PM Re: Coordinators [Re: Josh2408]
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#2036278 - 11/29/18 06:49 PM Re: Coordinators [Re: Josh2408]
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Would have expected some news one way or the other on hirings by now....maybe not as much interest in the jobs as originally thought

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#2036279 - 11/29/18 06:50 PM Re: Coordinators [Re: DrGreydog]
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No chance on Petrino, the reason he was fired at ARK was because he lied to Long about his side piece...
http://www.espn.com/college-football/sto...ell-boss-firing
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#2036293 - 11/30/18 08:28 AM Re: Coordinators [Re: Josh2408]
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#2036295 - 11/30/18 09:41 AM Re: Coordinators [Re: DrGreydog]
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Originally Posted By: DrGreydog
Would have expected some news one way or the other on hirings by now....maybe not as much interest in the jobs as originally thought


This makes me think some of his main candidates are guys that are coaching this weekend in some capacity.
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#2036403 - 12/03/18 04:46 PM Re: Coordinators [Re: Josh2408]
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So now the chips are starting to fall.
Chip Lindsey OC.
I suppose we must assume and/or hope SEC castoffs are an upgrade from the level to which we have become accustomed.
Statistical support for that. Not sure how Bama vs OU could be considered any kind barometer...
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#2036404 - 12/03/18 04:53 PM Re: Coordinators [Re: Josh2408]
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one down now who is the Defensive Coordinator gonna be? Anyone got a wishlist?
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#2036409 - 12/03/18 05:58 PM Re: Coordinators [Re: Josh2408]
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Originally Posted By: Josh2408
one down now who is the Defensive Coordinator gonna be? Anyone got a wishlist?
Bob Sutton. I mean we don't care about age.
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#2036411 - 12/03/18 06:17 PM Re: Coordinators [Re: 58hawk]
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Originally Posted By: 58hawk
Originally Posted By: Josh2408
one down now who is the Defensive Coordinator gonna be? Anyone got a wishlist?
Bob Sutton. I mean we don't care about age.


I think I would rather gouge my god damn eyes out then watch Bob Sutton Coach at Kansas University to be honest with you
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#2036412 - 12/03/18 06:19 PM Re: Coordinators [Re: Josh2408]
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Originally Posted By: Josh2408
Originally Posted By: 58hawk
Originally Posted By: Josh2408
one down now who is the Defensive Coordinator gonna be? Anyone got a wishlist?
Bob Sutton. I mean we don't care about age.


I think I would rather gouge my god damn eyes out then watch Bob Sutton Coach at Kansas University to be honest with you
LOL!
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#2036413 - 12/03/18 06:22 PM Re: Coordinators [Re: Josh2408]
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Brady Hoke is available

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#2036416 - 12/03/18 06:34 PM Re: Coordinators [Re: DrGreydog]
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Originally Posted By: DrGreydog
Brady Hoke is available
Solid choice.
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#2036418 - 12/03/18 07:39 PM Re: Coordinators [Re: Josh2408]
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Originally Posted By: Josh2408
one down now who is the Defensive Coordinator gonna be? Anyone got a wishlist?


Bo Pelini

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#2036419 - 12/03/18 07:39 PM Re: Coordinators [Re: 58hawk]
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Originally Posted By: 58hawk
Originally Posted By: DrGreydog
Brady Hoke is available
Solid choice.
Your Littrell comment disqualifies you from having an opinion. Miles is a home run hire.
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#2036420 - 12/03/18 08:22 PM Re: Coordinators [Re: EstebanBugatti]
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Originally Posted By: EstebanBugatti
Originally Posted By: Josh2408
one down now who is the Defensive Coordinator gonna be? Anyone got a wishlist?


Bo Pelini


Didn't Bo Pelini's defense's give up a lot of yards?
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#2036424 - 12/03/18 10:14 PM Re: Coordinators [Re: KUCO_VOC]
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Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
Originally Posted By: 58hawk
Originally Posted By: DrGreydog
Brady Hoke is available
Solid choice.
Your Littrell comment disqualifies you from having an opinion. Miles is a home run hire.
Having a little fissy attack are we?
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#2036430 - 12/04/18 02:13 AM Re: Coordinators [Re: 58hawk]
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Originally Posted By: 58hawk
Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
Originally Posted By: 58hawk
Originally Posted By: DrGreydog
Brady Hoke is available
Solid choice.
Your Littrell comment disqualifies you from having an opinion. Miles is a home run hire.
Having a little fissy attack are we?
You have a Gameball fixation when you promote Littrell over Miles.

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#2036435 - 12/04/18 10:11 AM Re: Coordinators [Re: Josh2408]
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Its official.....Chip Lindsey is the new OC

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#2036436 - 12/04/18 10:28 AM Re: Coordinators [Re: Josh2408]
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Both Mile's hires are listed as strong recruiters. 1) Hopefully that bodes well for Hull staying on. 2) There are rumors Linsey may have an in toward attracting an accomplished QB grad transfer to KU.

Kinda funny how that stuff works!
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#2036437 - 12/04/18 10:30 AM Re: Coordinators [Re: Josh2408]
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Does Lindsey extend the recruiting area into Georgia and Mississippi as well?

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#2036445 - 12/04/18 01:51 PM Re: Coordinators [Re: appyhawk]
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Originally Posted By: appyhawk
So now the chips are starting to fall.
Chip Lindsey OC.
I suppose we must assume and/or hope SEC castoffs are an upgrade
from the level to which we have become accustomed.
Statistical support for that. Not sure how Bama vs OU could be considered any kind barometer...
Lindsey wasn't cast off at Auburn. He was "fired" once it was made known he was in talks to leave. Auburn "fired" him to save face from losing him to another school.

Quite a bit of turmoil internally down there at Auburn on that coaching staff from what I hear.
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#2036446 - 12/04/18 01:52 PM Re: Coordinators [Re: DrGreydog]
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Originally Posted By: DrGreydog
Does Lindsey extend the recruiting area into Georgia and Mississippi as well?
He's got quite a few ties in Mississippi and Alabama as well as some in Louisiana. I haven't heard any specifics about Georgia ties, but wouldn't be surprised if he has some there too.
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#2036447 - 12/04/18 02:33 PM Re: Coordinators [Re: Kman_blue]
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Originally Posted By: Kman_blue
Originally Posted By: appyhawk
So now the chips are starting to fall.
Chip Lindsey OC.
I suppose we must assume and/or hope SEC castoffs are an upgrade
from the level to which we have become accustomed.
Statistical support for that. Not sure how Bama vs OU could be considered any kind barometer...
Lindsey wasn't cast off at Auburn. He was "fired" once it was made known he was in talks to leave. Auburn "fired" him to save face from losing him to another school.

Quite a bit of turmoil internally down there at Auburn on that coaching staff from what I hear.


Getting fired makes one a castoff in my book. Sure, there can be extenuating circumstances. In this case, as you suggest in the last line, I heard Lindsey objected to Mulz interfering with Lindsey's offense. I found that to be interesting. Miles doubtless knows that, but he hired Lindsey anyway. I presume that means he gave Lindsey assurances to having a free hand with the offense.
Also interesting to note from Miles comments he is somewhat of a defense first guy. I like that. Kind of an 'against the grain' move given the current offense over all thing going on in our conference. At any rate I'm very interested to see what happens with choice for DOC.
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#2036448 - 12/04/18 02:43 PM Re: Coordinators [Re: KUCO_VOC]
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Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
Originally Posted By: 58hawk
Originally Posted By: DrGreydog
Brady Hoke is available
Solid choice.
Your Littrell comment disqualifies you from having an opinion. Miles is a home run hire.

Tap the brakes, Hombre. We'll be able to label this a "home run" hire once we return to a Bowl game.... There's a reason KSU is phoning Seth Littrell....
see Littrell to Aggieville rumors here: https://www.underdogdynasty.com/2018/12/...ing-for-k-state

credit: Underdogdynasty


Edited by tophawk87 (12/04/18 02:54 PM)
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#2036450 - 12/04/18 02:50 PM Re: Coordinators [Re: Josh2408]
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The deets on our new OC....(with video interview of Auburn Undercover beat reporter)

https://auburn.247sports.com/Article/Aub...burn-125825873/

Credit: 247sports


Edited by tophawk87 (12/04/18 02:55 PM)
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#2036453 - 12/04/18 03:50 PM Re: Coordinators [Re: tophawk87]
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Originally Posted By: tophawk87
Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
Originally Posted By: 58hawk
Originally Posted By: DrGreydog
Brady Hoke is available
Solid choice.
Your Littrell comment disqualifies you from having an opinion. Miles is a home run hire.

Tap the brakes, Hombre. We'll be able to label this a "home run" hire once we return to a Bowl game.... There's a reason KSU is phoning Seth Littrell....
see Littrell to Aggieville rumors here: https://www.underdogdynasty.com/2018/12/...ing-for-k-state

credit: Underdogdynasty


Good link and interesting quote near the end of the article from a source who says, "I don't think he [Littrell] can turn down a Big XII offer."

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#2036475 - 12/04/18 10:33 PM Re: Coordinators [Re: appyhawk]
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Originally Posted By: appyhawk
Originally Posted By: Kman_blue
Originally Posted By: appyhawk
So now the chips are starting to fall.
Chip Lindsey OC.
I suppose we must assume and/or hope SEC castoffs are an upgrade
from the level to which we have become accustomed.
Statistical support for that. Not sure how Bama vs OU could be considered any kind barometer...
Lindsey wasn't cast off at Auburn. He was "fired" once it was made known he was in talks to leave. Auburn "fired" him to save face from losing him to another school.

Quite a bit of turmoil internally down there at Auburn on that coaching staff from what I hear.


Getting fired makes one a castoff in my book. Sure, there can be extenuating circumstances. In this case, as you suggest in the last line, I heard Lindsey objected to Mulz interfering with Lindsey's offense. I found that to be interesting. Miles doubtless knows that, but he hired Lindsey anyway. I presume that means he gave Lindsey assurances to having a free hand with the offense.
Also interesting to note from Miles comments he is somewhat of a defense first guy. I like that. Kind of an 'against the grain' move given the current offense over all thing going on in our conference. At any rate I'm very interested to see what happens with choice for DOC.
I wouldn't consider him a castoff as he wouldn't have been fired if he wanted to stay at Auburn.

It was more like a, "I'm interviewing with other schools and won't be returning."

Answered with, "What? Nuh uh...oh you're fired first. We win!"

Saved KU some buyout $$ happening that way, which is nice.
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#2036478 - 12/05/18 08:24 AM Re: Coordinators [Re: Josh2408]
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Not a coordinator as such.....

any idea about the strength and conditioning staff? Are they staying or will there be a change there also?


Edited by DrGreydog (12/05/18 08:25 AM)

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#2036479 - 12/05/18 08:33 AM Re: Coordinators [Re: Josh2408]
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I really hope we upgrade the strength and conditioning staff it appeared to be god awful at times
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#2036488 - 12/05/18 02:28 PM Re: Coordinators [Re: tophawk87]
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Originally Posted By: tophawk87
Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
Originally Posted By: DrGreydog
Brady Hoke is available
Your Littrell comment disqualifies you from having an opinion. Miles is a home run hire.

Tap the brakes, Hombre. We'll be able to label this a "home run" hire once we return to a Bowl game.... There's a reason KSU is phoning Seth Littrell....
see Littrell to Aggieville rumors here: https://www.underdogdynasty.com/2018/12/...ing-for-k-state

credit: Underdogdynasty
This hombre says THIS IS A HR HIRE. You mis-understand the meaning. He was a nationally known quantity. We were not. Time will tell if he is a turn around specialist. If you think KU and KSU are starting out on equal footing, in order to say Littrell (Gameball 2.0) is better, go ahead with that. Littrell is an unknown quantity on the P5 conference HC level as of yesterday, correct?

"Sources with knowledge of the situation have told the Denton Record-Chronicle over the last several days that Littrell's departure for Kansas State is far from a certainty."
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#2036506 - 12/06/18 07:37 PM Re: Coordinators [Re: Josh2408]
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Lindsey may be a good sign that Miles is willing to adapt his offensive philosophy.
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#2036508 - 12/06/18 08:57 PM Re: Coordinators [Re: Josh2408]
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Any rumors or ideas about who will run the defense?

Another SEC guy? Still a lot of folks to add to the staff in the way of position coaches

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#2036524 - 12/07/18 08:40 AM Re: Coordinators [Re: DrGreydog]
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I saw talk on twitter about Nate Woody, the current Georgia Tech DC. Georgia Tech's HC is retiring, so naturally he would be looking at his options. Over at Hawk Jock they have posted a nice summary of DC options. https://hawkjock.com/defensive-coordinator-candidates/

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#2036526 - 12/07/18 09:17 AM Re: Coordinators [Re: Josh2408]
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Pete Golding, Co-DC at Alabama is interesting....would be cool if we could get hjm rather than Oklahoma

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#2036573 - 12/07/18 08:13 PM Re: Coordinators [Re: DrGreydog]
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Was hearing a couple of days ago we were in final negotiations with a DC and an announcement would probably happen today(Friday) or tomorrow(Saturday), but haven't heard anymore info about that since Monday or Tuesday. Makes me wonder if those final negotiations fell through or are taking a bit longer than previously expected or maybe the coach is currently employed still and doesn't want anything to come out until after their current team's bowl game is over.
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#2036578 - 12/07/18 09:09 PM Re: Coordinators [Re: Kman_blue]
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Originally Posted By: Kman_blue
Was hearing a couple of days ago we were in final negotiations with a DC and an announcement would probably happen today(Friday) or tomorrow(Saturday), but haven't heard anymore info about that since Monday or Tuesday. Makes me wonder if those final negotiations fell through or are taking a bit longer than previously expected or maybe the coach is currently employed still and doesn't want anything to come out until after their current team's bowl game is over.


Do you think the DC will be a home run hire also? who are you hoping for?
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#2036581 - 12/08/18 12:35 AM Re: Coordinators [Re: Josh2408]
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Originally Posted By: Josh2408
I really hope we upgrade the strength and conditioning staff it appeared to be god awful at times


I think Woodfin was at Southern Miss when Lindsey and Meadows were there. Maybe that will mean Miles keeps Woodfin.

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#2036604 - 12/08/18 03:35 PM Re: Coordinators [Re: Josh2408]
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Originally Posted By: Josh2408
Do you think the DC will be a home run hire also? who are you hoping for?
Hard to say for me really as being a DC in the Big 12 is a whole different animal than being a DC in just about any other conference IMO with all of the high powered O's. I don't really have a favorite among the names I've heard so far. Some look a little better than others, but nobody is really sticking out to me either because I don't know enough about them or I don't know enough about the circumstances of the teams they've coached at previously.

A DC could look really great at say an Alabama (co-DC there has been mentioned as a possibility for the KU DC job actually) but be a mediocre DC getting the benefit of having a ton of great players playing for him or look great at a school who plays a consistently weak schedule. Vice versa of course could be true too. I just haven't spent enough time looking into the specifics of the backgrounds of the guys I've heard about over the past couple weeks.
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#2036608 - 12/08/18 04:21 PM Re: Coordinators [Re: Kman_blue]
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"or look great at a school who plays a consistently weak schedule. Vice versa of course could be true too."
Is that meant to be a defense for Bowens. smile
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#2036615 - 12/08/18 07:42 PM Re: Coordinators [Re: appyhawk]
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Originally Posted By: appyhawk
"or look great at a school who plays a consistently weak schedule. Vice versa of course could be true too."
Is that meant to be a defense for Bowens. smile
LOL Nah, didn't have him in mind when I typed that.

I have heard from quite a few people since Beaty's firing though about they thought Bowen was a lot better coach than he was getting credit for being because of our tough conference. I only mention that now because you brought him up and not because I agree or disagree with that statement. It'll be interesting to see if he's retained in some capacity or not and if not where he goes and how he does.

If he goes somewhere else and does poorly, you'll have a lot of people around here saying "I told you so" and if he does well somewhere else you'll have a lot of people around here saying "KU f'ed up and our AD continues to screw over the football program because we don't give good coaches what they need to succeed" or something similar. Many of those people for either scenario will be the same people too. LOL
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#2036617 - 12/08/18 07:46 PM Re: Coordinators [Re: Josh2408]
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I think Bowen has gotten a raw deal at KU. That said it is time to start fresh.

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#2036618 - 12/08/18 07:57 PM Re: Coordinators [Re: Josh2408]
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"... if he (Bowen) does well somewhere else you'll have a lot of people around here saying "KU f'ed up..." kman, only YOU will say it. He will be at a lower level program and then his poor teaching skills won't matter. This era was a dumpster fire with Bowen/Beaty.
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#2036651 - 12/09/18 08:02 AM Re: Coordinators [Re: Josh2408]
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It was, but it burned a little less bright than the preceding Herpe Derp Gill and Chaz Frontbutt.

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#2036659 - 12/09/18 04:19 PM Re: Coordinators [Re: moose1]
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Originally Posted By: moose1
I think Bowen has gotten a raw deal at KU. That said it is time to start fresh.
Why do you say that?
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#2036668 - 12/09/18 05:54 PM Re: Coordinators [Re: 58hawk]
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Originally Posted By: 58hawk
Originally Posted By: moose1
I think Bowen has gotten a raw deal at KU. That said it is time to start fresh.
Why do you say that?


Raw deal might have been harsh. I just meant I think he did well with what he was given. Given some help on offense to keep the defense off the field I think KUs defense would have been decent all things considered. Part of me wouldn’t mind having him stay. That said KU just needs a complete reboot with the only assistant coach coach from the old team b in possibly Tony Hull.

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#2036669 - 12/09/18 06:09 PM Re: Coordinators [Re: Josh2408]
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Need a clean break from Bowen. I like him, he's true blue KU and has worked his tail off. The numbers just aren't there to back him and I have to believe that Miles will come up with someone that will do better.

I don't think a chance to play D for Clint Bowen will impress many higher level recruits. Maybe some kind of administrative job if he wants to stay.
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#2036675 - 12/09/18 07:46 PM Re: Coordinators [Re: AlOerter]
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Originally Posted By: AlOerter
Need a clean break from Bowen. I like him, he's true blue KU and has worked his tail off. The numbers just aren't there to back him and I have to believe that Miles will come up with someone that will do better.

I don't think a chance to play D for Clint Bowen will impress many higher level recruits. Maybe some kind of administrative job if he wants to stay.


I think Bowen would be a hell of a Spread Analyst for us kinda like Brad Childress was for the Chiefs
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#2036677 - 12/09/18 08:05 PM Re: Coordinators [Re: Josh2408]
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CB wasn't great, but he also wasn't as bad as many of his "haters" thought. Many games where the d gave up 50+ points, yet the o never got the ball past midfield. I still think he would have been a better HC than DB, which isn't saying much. It's time for a change at this point.

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#2036681 - 12/09/18 09:00 PM Re: Coordinators [Re: Josh2408]
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Sounds like D.J. Eliot will be introduced as the Defensive Coordinator tomorrow.

Spent the last 2 seasons at Colorado.

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#2036682 - 12/09/18 09:19 PM Re: Coordinators [Re: Josh2408]
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Colorado was 5 - 7 this season and finished 6th in the South Division, Looking at some of their Scores at first glance it would appear the defense did pretty good for Colorado, they only got Blown out in 2 games. 1. Washington State 31 - 7 and 2. Utah Utes 30 - 7.
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#2036683 - 12/09/18 10:04 PM Re: Coordinators [Re: Josh2408]
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Thinking the defense is going to be a work in progress next year...need to replace Daniel Wise and that won't be easy


Edited by DrGreydog (12/09/18 10:06 PM)

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#2036707 - 12/10/18 05:16 PM Re: Coordinators [Re: Josh2408]
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DJ Eliot as D Coordinator is not the home run hire I was hoping for....
with a solid group of position coaches, Chevis Jackson as Cornerbacks is a start, the defense may be able to take a step forward this year.

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#2036710 - 12/10/18 06:07 PM Re: Coordinators [Re: DrGreydog]
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Last season, CU gave up 41 to Oregon State and 42 to Arizona. They also averaged giving up 30 PPG in all conference games. Eliot looks like an improvement over Bowen. I will hold off on my opinion until I see who our DL coach is.


Edited by pizzanbeer (12/10/18 11:15 PM)

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#2036714 - 12/10/18 06:35 PM Re: Coordinators [Re: Josh2408]
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Colorado only got blown out in 2 games against Washington State and Utah, so hopefully it was just the offense was the problem
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#2036718 - 12/10/18 07:31 PM Re: Coordinators [Re: Josh2408]
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If our offense can move the ball and score this year it will absolutely help the defense...

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#2036731 - 12/10/18 10:30 PM Re: Coordinators [Re: Josh2408]
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It looks as though the defenses he coached at Kentucky were much better than the ones at CU. The Colorado numbers could be more a result of the direction of the program than of his coaching ability. Another reason why it is so important to change the culture here.
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#2036735 - 12/10/18 11:50 PM Re: Coordinators [Re: Josh2408]
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According to S&P+ Colorado's defense this season ranked (31st) against the run and (72nd) against the pass.


Edited by Josh2408 (12/10/18 11:51 PM)
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#2036747 - 12/11/18 12:03 PM Re: Coordinators [Re: Josh2408]
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Eliot.
I'm not overwhelmed by this choice. If the hires to this point were entries in a horse race I think it is obvious our new DC would deservably be the highest odds horse in the race.
BUT, he had a good run at Kentucky, and all things considered I would equate Ky conditions as the closest match to Ks as race conditions. Longshots do win, usually about 17-20% of the time. He also seems to have given a good effort in his other stops, so that's a plus, it's just that his other stops may not have presented conditions that played to his greatest strength.
So maybe we'll get lucky and get this "longshot" home. We're due, right?
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#2036748 - 12/11/18 12:55 PM Re: Coordinators [Re: appyhawk]
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I like the horse race analogy, and I too am underwhelmed by the choice of DC. But Miles is putting together a team. The horses have to work together, and this may have been part of the consideration.

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#2036750 - 12/11/18 02:14 PM Re: Coordinators [Re: Josh2408]
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There's an old saying in horse race handicapping (from the Matchup) that goes: "It isn't how fast a horse runs...it's how a horse runs fast".
Here's hoping the shape of our race suits Eliot's strengths.
He better get busy right out of the gate recruiting some more talent to work with.
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#2036789 - 12/11/18 11:10 PM Re: Coordinators [Re: Josh2408]
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Link Courtesy of KUSports.com

Emmett Jones New WR Coach


http://www2.kusports.com/news/2018/dec/1...mmett/?football
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#2036793 - 12/12/18 12:56 AM Re: Coordinators [Re: appyhawk]
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Looks like KU just hired Emmet Jones as our new WR coach. Here's he's very well connected in the DFW area and has been the best recruiter at Tech for the past couple years. He definitely sounds like he falls into the monster recruiter category coach Miles said he wants to hire.

From some Tech fans it sounds like he was the TTech version of our coach Hull in terms of recruiting.
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#2036794 - 12/12/18 12:58 AM Re: Coordinators [Re: Josh2408]
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Originally Posted By: Josh2408
Link Courtesy of KUSports.com

Emmett Jones New WR Coach


http://www2.kusports.com/news/2018/dec/1...mmett/?football
Damn, I guess my browser didn't refresh until after I posted.

Sorry bout the double post of the same info.
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#2036802 - 12/12/18 08:35 AM Re: Coordinators [Re: Josh2408]
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hey that's no problem Kman im just glad it got posted one way or another
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#2036818 - 12/12/18 02:47 PM Re: Coordinators [Re: Josh2408]
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Jesse Newell Tweets


Jesse Newell Retweeted Zach Barnett
.@FootballScoop reporting Jimmy Brumbaugh will be new KU D-line coach. Worked as DL coach with new KU DC D.J. Eliot at Kentucky.
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#2036832 - 12/12/18 09:29 PM Re: Coordinators [Re: Josh2408]
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Informative article on Brumbaugh. Also worked with Miles at LSU.

https://www.testudotimes.com/maryland-te...-coach-kentucky
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#2036835 - 12/13/18 01:45 AM Re: Coordinators [Re: Josh2408]
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Thanks Al! Good article.

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#2036846 - 12/13/18 10:20 AM Re: Coordinators [Re: Josh2408]
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Kwahn Drake is in the mix....D line coach from Colorado....if you can believe what you read these days

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#2036860 - 12/13/18 06:15 PM Re: Coordinators [Re: pizzanbeer]
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Originally Posted By: pizzanbeer
Last season, CU gave up 41 to Oregon State and 42 to Arizona. They also averaged giving up 30 PPG in all conference games. Eliot looks like an improvement over Bowen. I will hold off on my opinion until I see who our DL coach is.


Eliot is bringing his DL coach. I'm going to rate these hires a meh.

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#2036861 - 12/13/18 06:41 PM Re: Coordinators [Re: Josh2408]
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I like the sounds of Drake. And he's a big recruiter? And he's from NO?
Lordy, with he and Hull and Miles tag teaming Louisiana ya think we might take that talent rich area over?

Woops. Meant to put this on Josh's Drake thread. (Senior moment)


Edited by appyhawk (12/13/18 07:09 PM)
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#2036876 - 12/14/18 10:47 AM Re: Coordinators [Re: pizzanbeer]
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Mike Ekeler hired as special teams coordinator.

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#2036882 - 12/14/18 01:57 PM Re: Coordinators [Re: Josh2408]
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Les Miles Words on Mike Ekeler

"Mike Ekeler is one of the Brightest Coaches in the country and we couldn't be more excited to add a coach of his caliber to our staff. The Success that Mike has had throughout his career leading the special teams units at Nebraska and Georgia, in addition to his experience as defensive coordinator at Indiana and North Texas. Will serve us well as we build something special here at Kansas. Mike's energy is contagious, and he has proven himself to be a coach who builds relationships with student-athletes and gets the best out of them on and off the field."
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#2036883 - 12/14/18 01:58 PM Re: Coordinators [Re: Josh2408]
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ku's k-state ties rekindled. ya'll just can't seem to kick the habit. probably should work on the grammar though in official releases.
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#2036884 - 12/14/18 02:02 PM Re: Coordinators [Re: tmcats]
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Originally Posted By: tmcats
ku's k-state ties rekindled.


It's nice when the "ties" can help win recruits, especially in-state grin

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#2036885 - 12/14/18 02:33 PM Re: Coordinators [Re: Kirk]
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Originally Posted By: Kirk
Originally Posted By: tmcats
ku's k-state ties rekindled.


It's nice when the "ties" can help win recruits, especially in-state grin


perhaps a few in lawrence even.
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#2036889 - 12/14/18 06:29 PM Re: Coordinators [Re: Josh2408]
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Your head coach was on KU's staff at one time.

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#2036897 - 12/14/18 08:53 PM Re: Coordinators [Re: Josh2408]
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The worm has turned for KU football. For K-state however, no one can duplicate what Bill Snyder has done. Nowhere to go but down for the kitties.
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#2036904 - 12/15/18 10:14 AM Re: Coordinators [Re: AlOerter]
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Originally Posted By: AlOerter
The worm has turned for KU football. For K-state however, no one can duplicate what Bill Snyder has done. Nowhere to go but down for the kitties.


i actually agree with the first two sentences. les will bring respectability to ku football. and no one could have done what snyder did in mhk. it's been an amazing run.
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#2036905 - 12/15/18 10:40 AM Re: Coordinators [Re: Josh2408]
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Klieman was a solid hire. He is a lot like Snyder in several ways.
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#2036914 - 12/15/18 12:23 PM Re: Coordinators [Re: 58hawk]
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Originally Posted By: 58hawk
Klieman was a solid hire. He is a lot like Snyder in several ways.


omg, they're like father and son philosophically. run very much the same type of smash-mouth football, except ck doesn't hesitate to pull the trigger. same kind of backgrounds, small college grads. same philosophy about winning the day. both land granters. fargo/mhk. i mean if ever a guy is set to step-up it's klieman. and the cupboard isn't bare even with barnes leaving for the pros. still, one never knows about coaches until they're out pulling the strings. k-state football without bill snyder is going to be strange.

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#2037083 - 12/19/18 06:25 PM Re: Coordinators [Re: Josh2408]
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Jeff Hecklinski is KU's new TE Coach, previously the offensive coordinator, QB coach and Recruiting coordinator at Indiana State the previous 2 years. He also worked previously as receivers coach and assistant Head Coach at Michigan.


Edited by Josh2408 (12/19/18 06:30 PM)
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#2037160 - 12/22/18 04:21 PM Re: Coordinators [Re: Josh2408]
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If Lindsey were to leave then Hecklinski could take over working with QB's until Miles hired a new OC. If Eliot left then Ekeler would work with all of the LBs until Miles hires a new DC.

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