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#2035288 - 11/07/18 04:10 PM Re: who is your top coaching choices [Re: DrGreydog]
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John Brown

Registered: 09/25/05
Loc: Austin
^ I hope not. Need a more accomplished coach than that.

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#2035290 - 11/07/18 04:13 PM Re: who is your top coaching choices [Re: tophawk87]
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Thunderhawk

Registered: 09/20/14
Originally Posted By: tophawk87
your next KU head football coach is.....



here: https://rolltide.com/coaches.aspx?rc=814&path=football


Turner Gill part 2?

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#2035303 - 11/07/18 10:37 PM Re: who is your top coaching choices [Re: DrGreydog]
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Max Falkenstien

Registered: 03/28/14
Loc: Nebraska
I dont like the assistant coach thing. Just doesn't ring out to me. If you going to turn things around here, you hire someone who has been there and done this type of thing.

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#2035323 - 11/08/18 10:17 AM Re: who is your top coaching choices [Re: Jaycat92]
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Wilt Chamberlain

Registered: 09/01/02
Loc: Topeka, Kansas
Originally Posted By: Jaycat92
I dont like the assistant coach thing. Just doesn't ring out to me. If you going to turn things around here, you hire someone who has been there and done this type of thing.


Those are the exact reasons the Litterbox hired Bill Snyder...he was the top assistant to Hayden Fry who rebuilt Iowa Football from a total doormat. Bob Fredrick passed on him because he "lacked head coaching experience." So someone who was in the trenches on a successful rebuild should a least be considered. Less we make the same mistake again.

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#2035329 - 11/08/18 11:21 AM Re: who is your top coaching choices [Re: beenahawk]
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Max Falkenstien

Registered: 12/12/03
Nick Saban would never ever allow one of his assistants to coach at Kansas

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#2035330 - 11/08/18 11:46 AM Re: who is your top coaching choices [Re: beenahawk]
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John Brown

Registered: 09/25/05
Loc: Austin
I hear you, but Snyder’s long time under Hayden Fry was more impressive to me than the “coaching tree” Enos is part of. Being with Saban for five minutes isn’t the same thing.

I dig the Roy Williams effect, to borrow from another sport. An assistant with a long tutelage under a proven winner and legend who recommends him highly, might be a great route for us to go in football...but is Enos remotely that?


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#2035346 - 11/08/18 03:40 PM Re: who is your top coaching choices [Re: DrGreydog]
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Wilt Chamberlain

Registered: 09/01/02
Loc: Mc to the Pherson
Finding another Snyder is like winning the Powerball lottery a couple weeks ago. It's possible, but not very likely. We need to find common consistency in a hire to try and right this clown filled circus known as KU football.

RCJHKU!
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#2035351 - 11/08/18 06:42 PM Re: who is your top coaching choices [Re: DrGreydog]
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Wilt Chamberlain

Registered: 10/02/13
I'm still keeping my fingers crossed for Les Miles.
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#2035352 - 11/08/18 07:47 PM Re: who is your top coaching choices [Re: AlOerter]
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Prairie Warrior

Registered: 11/17/09
Mangino was an assistant when he was hired.

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#2035367 - 11/09/18 01:00 AM Re: who is your top coaching choices [Re: Goober]
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Baby Jay

Registered: 12/23/03
Loc: San Diego, California
Yes, those were exciting times for KU football.

http://www.guppylake.com/~nsb/headjob.html

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#2035460 - 11/10/18 06:50 PM Re: who is your top coaching choices [Re: DrGreydog]
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Wilt Chamberlain

Registered: 10/02/13
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#2035464 - 11/10/18 07:27 PM Re: who is your top coaching choices [Re: DrGreydog]
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Max Falkenstien

Registered: 03/28/14
Loc: Nebraska
If we hire Miles, whats our expectations? What is realistic?

IF Beaty won 3 this season, and we think he was completely inept and I am guesssing that 6 games next season are in play?

I am guessing terms of contract would be 4 years at a few million$. I think we should win 5 games next season if Miles is legit.

Kansas ST, Texas Tech, Baylor, and TCU are going to be gettable next season.

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#2035465 - 11/10/18 08:41 PM Re: who is your top coaching choices [Re: DrGreydog]
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Crimson & Blue Blood

Registered: 07/22/07
Loc: Marshall County
Hiring Miles would be a fine short term fix but KU can't go down that road again. They need to look for someone for the long term.

People say you can't compare hiring Miles to hiring Weis. True you can't compare the coaching resume's, but took at the circumstances:

In 2012 and 2018 KU is looking to replace head coaches.

In 2012 and 2018, new Kansas Athletic Directors were looking for BIG name replacements to drum up excitement, great recruiters and help put the football program back on solid ground.

In 2012 Weis was coming off being and o-cordinator for the past 2 years (2010 in Kansas City and 2011 in Florida). Miles hasn't been a head coach for 2 years.

In 2012 Charlie Weis was 57, in 2018 Miles just turned 65.

Weis was a pro-style offensive guy who scrapped it for a spread-type offense in his second season. Miles is a pro-style guy with talk from people already asking will he scrap it for a spread-type offense as well to fit in the Big XII style of play..

In 2012, Weis was getting paid a buyout from Notre Dame. In 2018 Miles is getting paid a buyout from LSU.

In 2012 and 2018 both BIG name candidates wanted to get back into a head coaching position with the Athletic Director who seems to be willing to pay a hefty amount to get their guy.

Does Miles want to coach? Or, does Miles want to coach KANSAS FOOTBALL?

IF Kansas were to offer Miles say $2 million a season and then say Maryland were to offer $2.5 million and say another school were to offer $3 million, which job would Miles take.

KU tried hiring the HOT up and comer from a rinky dink school from a rinky dink conference like they tried with Gill.

When was the last time Kansas had a successful program? When they hired a TOP assistant from one of the TOP football programs in the country in one of the TOP conferences in the country in Mark Mangino.



Edited by JHawkJunkie74 (11/11/18 09:55 AM)
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#2035473 - 11/11/18 12:38 AM Re: who is your top coaching choices [Re: DrGreydog]
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Max Falkenstien

Registered: 03/28/14
Loc: Nebraska
Watching football, if USC loses to Cal tonight, currently behind, that job will be open.

Maryland
USC
Kansas
Kansas ST-Snyder should retire
Iowa ST- Campbell will be a hot name on all big time lists

These are potential openings with us and Maryland. I would say that right now we are the worst of those openings.

Who ever we pick, it needs to happen sooner than later. Too many jobs will be on the board, and every time one gets added, we move down the desirable board even further.

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#2035474 - 11/11/18 12:44 AM Re: who is your top coaching choices [Re: DrGreydog]
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John Brown

Registered: 09/25/05
Loc: Austin
I assume Long understands the situation. If we’re the worst on the list, indeed we may not be able to get the best available prospects in the country. Yep.

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