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#2034503 - 10/19/18 05:01 PM Investigation Casts Shadow on 2018-19
AlOerter Offline
Wilt Chamberlain

Registered: 10/02/13
My excitement for the upcoming season has fallen off a little waiting for the NCAA shoe to fall at season's end. We know their wheels grind slowly and we may not even hear anything from them till 2020.

This could be a legitimate national championship caliber team and this whole thing takes a little of the shine off of it. Even if Self and Townsend and KU are completely exonerated, the reputation damage is done.
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#2034507 - 10/19/18 07:06 PM Re: Investigation Casts Shadow on 2018-19 [Re: AlOerter]
KYBLUEBLOOD Offline
Wilt Chamberlain

Registered: 04/07/11
Well, they did it to themselves.Everyone with a brain knows Grassnola and Gatto were not defrauding anyone. They were paying for players the coaches wanted in order to like the text said, success, lottery picks. It’s Self and KU and everyone else get in line.
Self had his HOF dinner with Grassnola and both their wives .Grassnola isn’t an Adidas employee. He’s a bagman that gets the cash and or whatever it takes like the Zion recruitment. The games is shady and Self will forever be thought of as dirty. This is the 2nd big black eye for Kutis Townsend.
Yea I know Calipari had 2 FF vacated. A whole season st Memphis. 5 games at UMass. He was found not to be implicated in either but his reputation in the sports world thought of him as dirty.
I don’t think he is dirty now because he’s calling for punishment to the ones who profited by recruiting dirty etc. he said no selectiive enforcement , a shot a KU and dUKe. Has mike figured a better way? I don’t know. dUKe needs to explain Zion. And the 950k home his family resides in Durham. I’d imagine rent would be pretty high. Arizona is Nike must explain some. Cal may be bluffing but he could be clean. We’ve missed on the top recruits for several years.
Why hasn’t Townsend been put on leave or fired? Just by his text alone he should be gone. Self should BS and say we can’t have that at Kansas.

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#2034508 - 10/19/18 08:20 PM Re: Investigation Casts Shadow on 2018-19 [Re: AlOerter]
PHOGUSHER Offline
Original AFH Gangsta

Registered: 11/01/05
Loc: Western Kansas Hinderlands
Trolling on 2 KU sports forums. Aren't you just the dum inbred hillbilly eager beaver...beaver as in being a pooooosie..GO AWAY....
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#2034509 - 10/19/18 08:39 PM Re: Investigation Casts Shadow on 2018-19 [Re: AlOerter]
AlOerter Offline
Wilt Chamberlain

Registered: 10/02/13
I don't think Cal is clean either. I don't believe Cal and K. and Roy are that much better at recruiting than Self and he somehow has to pay players to make up that gap. I don't believe Nike is clean and only Adidas is dirty.

I'm going to wait and see how this whole thing shakes out. As a fan it makes me sad. Big money drives the show. Everyone is vulnerable to the lure.

Without all that money I wouldn't be able to sit on my butt and watch my favorite sports on TV.
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#2034514 - 10/20/18 12:50 PM Re: Investigation Casts Shadow on 2018-19 [Re: AlOerter]
KYBLUEBLOOD Offline
Wilt Chamberlain

Registered: 04/07/11
Cal’s calling for severe penalties for any found to have been involved in this scheme. He called for “no selective enforcement either” -He’s playing chess as far as cheating while the others were still on the checkerboards. 4-D shat.

Like the good Catholic he is, he said if a recruit ask for anything— “ we walk”. No wonder we couldn’t get Oubre to even visit, he canceled after the bag dropped. 😂

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#2034516 - 10/20/18 01:45 PM Re: Investigation Casts Shadow on 2018-19 [Re: AlOerter]
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KU1980

Registered: 05/22/08
Loc: Denver, CO
The UK coach calling out ANY other organization is laughable. Scumbucket calling the kettle black is a genius move to make. Don't look here, look there says the whiner.
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#2034522 - 10/20/18 04:35 PM Re: Investigation Casts Shadow on 2018-19 [Re: KUCO_VOC]
KYBLUEBLOOD Offline
Wilt Chamberlain

Registered: 04/07/11
It hurts thee likes of us who do it right says Calipari. Severe punishment and not selective will fix it Shot across the bow of the cheaters in charge at KU and dUKe.

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#2034524 - 10/20/18 04:37 PM Re: Investigation Casts Shadow on 2018-19 [Re: AlOerter]
AlOerter Offline
Wilt Chamberlain

Registered: 10/02/13
What goes around, comes around KY. Your day is coming.
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#2034559 - 10/20/18 09:21 PM Re: Investigation Casts Shadow on 2018-19 [Re: AlOerter]
Jayhawk1952 Offline
Max Falkenstien

Registered: 01/18/08
All I'm seeing to date are accusations by a defense attorney. That doesn't necessarily add up to concrete evidence. I'm not going to get concerned until there's verifiable evidence. At this point there is no shadow cast over our 2018-19 season.

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#2034566 - 10/21/18 06:44 AM Re: Investigation Casts Shadow on 2018-19 [Re: AlOerter]
AlOerter Offline
Wilt Chamberlain

Registered: 10/02/13
We did see texts of Self and Townsend enlisting Adidas help in getting recruits. Not sure that is within NCAA rules. Rest assured, NCAA will investigate this further. Any time school is being investigated for recruiting violations there is worry about sanctions.
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#2034572 - 10/21/18 09:30 AM Re: Investigation Casts Shadow on 2018-19 [Re: AlOerter]
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KU1980

Registered: 05/22/08
Loc: Denver, CO
The bigger programs such as Kansas, have a lot of stuff flying at it. Adidas was throwing it, Kansas didn't catch it. Let's be patient to find out any facts, if there is any.
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#2034577 - 10/21/18 11:27 AM Re: Investigation Casts Shadow on 2018-19 [Re: KUCO_VOC]
KYBLUEBLOOD Offline
Wilt Chamberlain

Registered: 04/07/11
Doesn’t take a rocket scientist to put it together. Very little if anything will happen. The days of taking a cash cow and slapping with 3 years probation, loss of scholarships, and no TV for 2 years over 1000 bucks in a questionable envelope breaking apart are over. The cash cows are too big and if Kansas was Topeka U they might get in trouble. Townsend may need to go.


Edited by KYBLUEBLOOD (10/21/18 11:28 AM)

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#2034595 - 10/22/18 10:30 AM Re: Investigation Casts Shadow on 2018-19 [Re: AlOerter]
MICHHAWK Offline
Wilt Chamberlain

Registered: 08/29/02
Loc: Port Huron MI
We have ncaa penalties coming our way. When. Who knows. Likely not before this new season is over and done. Maybe not until next season is over and done. Who knows.

The only way I get queasy for this new season is if I see sds dressed and in our line up at the champions classic. If he ever sees the floor for us again in a real game, I will get uneasy. But I don't expect to ever see him again in our line up..

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#2034599 - 10/22/18 11:57 AM Re: Investigation Casts Shadow on 2018-19 [Re: MICHHAWK]
KYBLUEBLOOD Offline
Wilt Chamberlain

Registered: 04/07/11
I think if Self is pro active and gets rid of Townsend and encourage SDS to move along he may survive it. Don’t need them digging any deeper.

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#2034602 - 10/22/18 01:08 PM Re: Investigation Casts Shadow on 2018-19 [Re: AlOerter]
PHOGUSHER Offline
Original AFH Gangsta

Registered: 11/01/05
Loc: Western Kansas Hinderlands
Sure ya do. Because you know everything...right...Really...no not really. Kurtis ain't going anywhere.
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#2034606 - 10/22/18 02:04 PM Re: Investigation Casts Shadow on 2018-19 [Re: PHOGUSHER]
KYBLUEBLOOD Offline
Wilt Chamberlain

Registered: 04/07/11
If Gatto/Gassnola trial says that they conspired to defraud the university by paying a player, this making him ineligible and this hurts KU. Self and Townsend would of could be charged in another trial for the same. If they approved players getting cash etc. and we have audio of Townsend all but saying he would bend over after blow’’n one. Whatever it takes was his words for 10 months.

Clean the basketball program up. Townsend has always been dirty, look at his previous schools.

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#2034619 - 10/22/18 08:53 PM Re: Investigation Casts Shadow on 2018-19 [Re: KYBLUEBLOOD]
PHOGUSHER Offline
Original AFH Gangsta

Registered: 11/01/05
Loc: Western Kansas Hinderlands
Originally Posted By: KYBLUEBLOOD
If Gatto/Gassnola trial says that they conspired to defraud the university by paying a player, this making him ineligible and this hurts KU. Self and Townsend would of could be charged in another trial for the same. If they approved players getting cash etc. and we have audio of Townsend all but saying he would bend over after blow’’n one. Whatever it takes was his words for 10 months.

Clean the basketball program up. Calapari has always been dirty, look at his previous schools.


FYP...fact....
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#2034627 - 10/23/18 10:12 AM Re: Investigation Casts Shadow on 2018-19 [Re: PHOGUSHER]
KYBLUEBLOOD Offline
Wilt Chamberlain

Registered: 04/07/11
Dirty birds!

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#2034628 - 10/23/18 10:13 AM Re: Investigation Casts Shadow on 2018-19 [Re: AlOerter]
JimWest Offline
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Registered: 11/29/12
Why is this kentucky idiot spamming the boards?
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#2034629 - 10/23/18 10:21 AM Re: Investigation Casts Shadow on 2018-19 [Re: AlOerter]
PHOGUSHER Offline
Original AFH Gangsta

Registered: 11/01/05
Loc: Western Kansas Hinderlands
Because the dot com is like Fox News...fair and unbias...I mean they let you troll with your " Farm Kansas people this"..." Hick flatlander rubes that". They got to give KYNoteeth boy his just meaningless ramblings. So essentially its your fault Jimmy ...
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#2034631 - 10/23/18 11:25 AM Re: Investigation Casts Shadow on 2018-19 [Re: PHOGUSHER]
KYBLUEBLOOD Offline
Wilt Chamberlain

Registered: 04/07/11
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#2034641 - 10/23/18 05:12 PM Re: Investigation Casts Shadow on 2018-19 [Re: AlOerter]
KUCO_VOC Offline
KU1980

Registered: 05/22/08
Loc: Denver, CO
#1 preseason baby!! KYjellyman is jealous!!!
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#2034651 - 10/23/18 08:24 PM Re: Investigation Casts Shadow on 2018-19 [Re: KUCO_VOC]
KYBLUEBLOOD Offline
Wilt Chamberlain

Registered: 04/07/11
Under salary cap?

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#2034653 - 10/23/18 09:15 PM Re: Investigation Casts Shadow on 2018-19 [Re: AlOerter]
PHOGUSHER Offline
Original AFH Gangsta

Registered: 11/01/05
Loc: Western Kansas Hinderlands
Beeeatch. We dont even need to play that supposed paid for guy...the preseason poll guys know this and we are still #1. So how about youse fuuuk off and die. Mmmmmkay. TIA.
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#2034668 - 10/24/18 09:59 AM Re: Investigation Casts Shadow on 2018-19 [Re: PHOGUSHER]
KYBLUEBLOOD Offline
Wilt Chamberlain

Registered: 04/07/11
Not playing him because your cheating coach and staff were caught. The man said he “never let him down, except Ayton”. They need to find out who, Josh Jackson/ 10-4. Oubre- 10-4. Wiggins 10-4.

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#2034671 - 10/24/18 10:46 AM Re: Investigation Casts Shadow on 2018-19 [Re: AlOerter]
PHOGUSHER Offline
Original AFH Gangsta

Registered: 11/01/05
Loc: Western Kansas Hinderlands
Starting up early today ehhh hillbilly boy. Calismelly cheating at UMass 10-4 and proved..wins vacated....Calismelly cheating at Memphis 10-4 and proved...wins vacated...Calismelly cheating at Kentucky..most likely and eventually proved. The hilarity of your ramblings is KU hasnt been proven guilty..maybe they will..maybe they wont.

But the fact is your punk asss coach has been proven guilty twice. Robert Montgomery Knight wanted Calismelly banned from coaching forever. The General might have been a hot head but he ran things right. So inbred boyee why dont you go screw your sister...cousin...uncle...whoever and gtfo.


Edited by PHOGUSHER (10/24/18 10:47 AM)
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#2034674 - 10/24/18 11:13 AM Re: Investigation Casts Shadow on 2018-19 [Re: PHOGUSHER]
MICHHAWK Offline
Wilt Chamberlain

Registered: 08/29/02
Loc: Port Huron MI
You and the hillbilly please contain yourself to this thread. So the humans can discuss freely on another. No need to drag every thread into your crap pile.

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#2034675 - 10/24/18 11:43 AM Re: Investigation Casts Shadow on 2018-19 [Re: PHOGUSHER]
KYBLUEBLOOD Offline
Wilt Chamberlain

Registered: 04/07/11
Originally Posted By: PHOGUSHER
Starting up early today ehhh hillbilly boy. Calismelly cheating at UMass 10-4 and proved..wins vacated....Calismelly cheating at Memphis 10-4 and proved...wins vacated...Calismelly cheating at Kentucky..most likely and eventually proved. The hilarity of your ramblings is KU hasnt been proven guilty..maybe they will..maybe they wont.

But the fact is your punk asss coach has been proven guilty twice. Robert Montgomery Knight wanted Calismelly banned from coaching forever. The General might have been a hot head but he ran things right. So inbred boyee why dont you go screw your sister...cousin...uncle...whoever and gtfo.


Calipari was found to have done nothing himself at UMass. What did he have to gain by a player he already had before the tournament taking cash from an agent? Only vacated 5 games due to Camby. 10-4.

Memphis - it has never been proven Rose didn’t take his test. 10-4. Never. Over zealous NCAA with the double standard as dUKe has had 2 players on the take and nothing. 10-4

Calipari was not charged or proven guilty of shat. 10-4. No thank you texts to agents. 😂

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#2034690 - 10/24/18 02:28 PM Re: Investigation Casts Shadow on 2018-19 [Re: AlOerter]
KYBLUEBLOOD Offline
Wilt Chamberlain

Registered: 04/07/11
So, they have all been found guilty. Let that sink in. How is Self and Townsend also not guilty of defrauding KU? They worked with these to secure players. Even thanked them -Bill Self.
So these soon to be inmates, sat with Bill Self during his HOF induction, they went out with the wives for dinner, prior. Not a good look Bill Self. Nonetheless,?a great coach who wins at all costs, play ball!

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#2034692 - 10/24/18 03:22 PM Re: Investigation Casts Shadow on 2018-19 [Re: AlOerter]
Jaycat92 Offline
Max Falkenstien

Registered: 03/28/14
Loc: Nebraska
I guess I will get some input here as well because I don't think that any of the blueblood programs are completely clean or dirty. That gray area that exists all NCAA sports can be interpreted in many ways. Each program does things a little bit differently to acquire the same goals.

KY- Not sure I remember the name, but UK had a fella hanging around the program a couple of seasons ago ( Worldwide Wayne?), what actually was his roll in things? Where has he been at recently?

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#2034693 - 10/24/18 03:28 PM Re: Investigation Casts Shadow on 2018-19 [Re: AlOerter]
Jaycat92 Offline
Max Falkenstien

Registered: 03/28/14
Loc: Nebraska
Decades of doing things in the gray area don't make things wrong or right, right now. The game of college basketball and the NCAA can't afford to have the bell cows of the game getting into trouble. This was a wake up call to everyone. UNC, Duke, KU, UK, UCLA, Indiana, and others.

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#2034695 - 10/24/18 03:49 PM Re: Investigation Casts Shadow on 2018-19 [Re: Jaycat92]
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Baby Jay

Registered: 12/23/03
Loc: San Diego, California
Cleveland State is going to be in big trouble!

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#2034696 - 10/24/18 04:47 PM Re: Investigation Casts Shadow on 2018-19 [Re: KYBLUEBLOOD]
AlOerter Offline
Wilt Chamberlain

Registered: 10/02/13
Originally Posted By: KYBLUEBLOOD
Originally Posted By: PHOGUSHER
Starting up early today ehhh hillbilly boy. Calismelly cheating at UMass 10-4 and proved..wins vacated....Calismelly cheating at Memphis 10-4 and proved...wins vacated...Calismelly cheating at Kentucky..most likely and eventually proved. The hilarity of your ramblings is KU hasnt been proven guilty..maybe they will..maybe they wont.

But the fact is your punk asss coach has been proven guilty twice. Robert Montgomery Knight wanted Calismelly banned from coaching forever. The General might have been a hot head but he ran things right. So inbred boyee why dont you go screw your sister...cousin...uncle...whoever and gtfo.


Calipari was found to have done nothing himself at UMass. What did he have to gain by a player he already had before the tournament taking cash from an agent? Only vacated 5 games due to Camby. 10-4.

Memphis - it has never been proven Rose didn’t take his test. 10-4. Never. Over zealous NCAA with the double standard as dUKe has had 2 players on the take and nothing. 10-4

Calipari was not charged or proven guilty of shat. 10-4. No thank you texts to agents. 😂


NCAA investigation does not equal FBI investigation. NCAA cannot subpoena phone records and financials and text messages or send people to prison. Do you think Cal would stand up to that kind of scrutiny?
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#2034749 - 10/25/18 03:19 PM Re: Investigation Casts Shadow on 2018-19 [Re: AlOerter]
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John Brown

Registered: 09/25/05
Loc: Austin
The blue blood programs are going to do everything they possibly can to:

-- Remain competitive at the top and continue to win
-- Even against competitors who bend the rules
-- Maintain plausible deniability for coaches

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