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#2034301 - 10/10/18 07:17 PM Meachum fired.
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#2034302 - 10/10/18 07:50 PM Re: Meachum fired. [Re: Defixione]
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Meachum was an Air Raid guy, Beaty had no idea what an Air Raid offense was, which is why we don't have any good receivers. With us running the ball more the offensive game plan is no longer a Air Raid therefore we no longer need Meachum. Hull likely will bump up to OC along with his associate HC title.

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#2034303 - 10/10/18 08:12 PM Re: Meachum fired. [Re: Defixione]
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Originally Posted By: Defixione
Uh oh.


Sad to say that we've been "Uh oh" for a looooooooong time.
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#2034305 - 10/10/18 08:39 PM Re: Meachum fired. [Re: Defixione]
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It will give him the chance to get his resume out before the entire house is cleaned here at the end of the season.

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#2034306 - 10/10/18 08:48 PM Re: Meachum fired. [Re: Defixione]
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Article. Seemed to indicate that Beatty was taking over quarterback coaching and offensive play calling...

I for one am not optimistic about how this is going to turn out.

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#2034307 - 10/10/18 09:05 PM Re: Meachum fired. [Re: Defixione]
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Registered: 12/29/06
Loc: Wichita
I don't think it is going to go all that well. As a matter of fact I think it will get worse. Beaty was horrible the last time he was in charge of the offense.

Also I think it funny Beaty can fire people at will, but he needs more time.

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#2034308 - 10/10/18 09:44 PM Re: Meachum fired. [Re: Defixione]
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CYA plain and simple.
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#2034309 - 10/10/18 11:12 PM Re: Meachum fired. [Re: 58hawk]
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Registered: 12/29/06
Loc: Wichita
Originally Posted By: 58hawk
CYA plain and simple.


I don't see how he is covering his ass with this move. To me is more of an indictment of his coaching abilities. Selecting good assistants is a major part of the job. Plus he only covers his ass if the offense performs better. I don't see that happening. To me this is more of another nail in his professional coffin.

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#2034310 - 10/10/18 11:14 PM Re: Meachum fired. [Re: 58hawk]
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Registered: 10/30/04
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C'mon 58, there is no "A" left to cover. It's been kicked up and down the field so often there's nothing left. At this point, it just appears to be another opportunity to point a finger. Staff instability is another hallmark of the Coach Beaty era, another example of not being ready to be a head coach.

Will we be required to call this an era?
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#2034311 - 10/10/18 11:37 PM Re: Meachum fired. [Re: INation]
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Steven Sims, Jr. Is a damn fine receiver. To put up the numbers he's put up, in the midst of this perpetual dumpster fire, is amazing.
We have some good players. It's just a damn shame for them and us.
With the upcoming firing of DB, which has to happen, the five year plan starts over. Again. Makes me sick. Again.

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#2034312 - 10/11/18 12:43 AM Re: Meachum fired. [Re: Goober]
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Registered: 08/31/08
Loc: Kansas
I noticed several times Beaty was really pissed on the sidelines during the WVU game when we had the ball. Someone on twitter even has a gif or short webm video from the game where Beaty "borrows" the headset from another assistant to yell at Meacham up in the booth.

Knew there has been a lot of conflict within the coaches on the O side of the ball over the past year and half, but was under the impression last year that it was more between Yenser and Meacham. Guess some or a lot of it was between Beaty and Meacham too.

I too am not confident in this move either. Don't think Meacham was exactly killing it while he's been here, but I don't think Beaty is going to do any better and a good chance he'll do worse at play calling.

Also agree with Goober we've got some quality guys at the skill positions and overall we've got enough talent on the O side to be a lot better at scoring than we have been so far. The OL is still a work in progress, but I think it's a good deal better now than it was at the beginning of the season and that alone should allow this O to be quite a bit more productive than it has been since Big 12 play began IMHO.

I've really got to wonder how involved Vollmar and/or Long were in this move too. Don't think coach Beaty could make this move all on his own. Gotta wonder if Vollmar is giving "advice" on the O and game plans too. This in turn raises some questions to me about the thinking of Long and what he ends up doing about the football program and that it may not line up exactly with what a lot of people expect.
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#2034313 - 10/11/18 07:54 AM Re: Meachum fired. [Re: Kman_blue]
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Registered: 09/01/02
Loc: Topeka, Kansas
Obviously, Beaty isn't going to stand around and watch this team continue to under perform and fail. This is simply his way of controlling the direction of KU Football. My suggestion, since he simply can't STAND this performance? SIT DOWN AND WRITE A RESIGNATION LETTER!

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#2034314 - 10/11/18 09:24 AM Re: Meachum fired. [Re: beenahawk]
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Registered: 08/31/08
Loc: Kansas
Beaty is gonna go down swingin till the end. Whatever anyone's opinion of him as a coach is, he really is a non-stop energizer bunny kind of guy who'll never quit until absolutely forced to.

I'm still real curious about Vollmar and Long's roles in this coaching shakeup. I think both those guys know what they're doing when it comes to football programs and I think they both definitely had some kind of say in this.
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#2034316 - 10/11/18 10:19 AM Re: Meachum fired. [Re: Kman_blue]
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Registered: 01/18/06
Loc: Topeka,Kansas
As another said, "the last gasp of a drowning man"

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#2034317 - 10/11/18 10:25 AM Re: Meachum fired. [Re: Kman_blue]
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Wilt Chamberlain

Registered: 09/01/02
Loc: Topeka, Kansas
I will not be the least bit surprised if Vollmer ends up the interim HC. I think Beaty gets fired on October 28. If not attendance will continue to plummet to a point where there isn't any reason to open Old Memorial for games.

The saddest thing to me is Beaty has not improved the overall program in the least these past four years, meaning that even a reincarnation of Knute Rockne would need three years to have a competitive team and four or five to become relevant. I'm not sure I will live long enough to see KU Football succeed.

Amazing that Lew Perkins single handedly killed football at two Kansas Regents schools! The ineptitude of KU AD's through the years is even more telling. If Long allows Beaty to continue much longer he would be showing me he is as bad (or worse?) as any AD we've had. If he actually retains Beaty for 2019 he needs to be run out of town before he does something even more stupid. No one can say the fans haven't been patient! Geesh, 10 years of this circus act is long enough!

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#2034318 - 10/11/18 10:54 AM Re: Meachum fired. [Re: Defixione]
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Registered: 05/22/08
Loc: Denver, CO
2 wins can't possibly be the benchmark for another Beaty sheetshow for 2019. He has only ONE commit for 2019 so far. That's 1, uno, less than 2. By 2019 the attendance will be near 10K and we can forget about stadium reno completion until 2025.
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#2034319 - 10/11/18 11:29 AM Re: Meachum fired. [Re: KUCO_VOC]
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Registered: 09/01/02
Loc: Topeka, Kansas
Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
2 wins can't possibly be the benchmark for another Beaty sheetshow for 2019. He has only ONE commit for 2019 so far. That's 1, uno, less than 2. By 2019 the attendance will be near 10K and we can forget about stadium reno completion until 2025.


Beaty needs to contact Adidas on the recruiting issues....according to DB, "Kids really like our cool uniform combinations! it's an integral part of our recruiting process."

If we only had another dozen or so uniform possibilities, the guy would already have kids lining up for 2020 and beyond! wink The man is simply an idiot who never should have been given the keys to this or any other football program higher than 8 man HS.

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#2034321 - 10/11/18 12:18 PM Re: Meachum fired. [Re: beenahawk]
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Registered: 11/03/02
Loc: Cedar Rapids, Iowa
If Uniforms are that important then why does Penn State do well with the worst looking uniforms ever, along with Notre Dame. I like a good looking uniform but I like good blocking and tackling better. I really have a problem when they screw with the "school colors!" ISU is rumored to be wearing ALL BLACK this sat against WV and Black is not our school color. Don't screw with tradition. IB
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#2034322 - 10/11/18 12:35 PM Re: Meachum fired. [Re: Kman_blue]
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Registered: 12/29/06
Loc: Wichita
Originally Posted By: Kman_blue
Beaty is gonna go down swingin till the end. Whatever anyone's opinion of him as a coach is, he really is a non-stop energizer bunny kind of guy who'll never quit until absolutely forced to.

I'm still real curious about Vollmar and Long's roles in this coaching shakeup. I think both those guys know what they're doing when it comes to football programs and I think they both definitely had some kind of say in this.


I tend to agree Vollmar has had input during the year. The program seems to have more of a firm direction and different feel to it. That said I don't think they directed Beaty to dire Meachum. I am just not sure what it gets tou. All it does is put more on Beaty's plate and he seems to have a har enough time with his current duties.

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#2034323 - 10/11/18 12:49 PM Re: Meachum fired. [Re: Kman_blue]
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Registered: 01/03/15
Loc: Indiana
Originally Posted By: Kman_blue
I noticed several times Beaty was really pissed on the sidelines during the WVU game when we had the ball. Someone on twitter even has a gif or short webm video from the game where Beaty "borrows" the headset from another assistant to yell at Meacham up in the booth.

Knew there has been a lot of conflict within the coaches on the O side of the ball over the past year and half, but was under the impression last year that it was more between Yenser and Meacham. Guess some or a lot of it was between Beaty and Meacham too.

I too am not confident in this move either. Don't think Meacham was exactly killing it while he's been here, but I don't think Beaty is going to do any better and a good chance he'll do worse at play calling.

Also agree with Goober we've got some quality guys at the skill positions and overall we've got enough talent on the O side to be a lot better at scoring than we have been so far. The OL is still a work in progress, but I think it's a good deal better now than it was at the beginning of the season and that alone should allow this O to be quite a bit more productive than it has been since Big 12 play began IMHO.

I've really got to wonder how involved Vollmar and/or Long were in this move too. Don't think coach Beaty could make this move all on his own. Gotta wonder if Vollmar is giving "advice" on the O and game plans too. This in turn raises some questions to me about the thinking of Long and what he ends up doing about the football program and that it may not line up exactly with what a lot of people expect.



Meaning what that Beaty may not be on his way out like we all thought he is?
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#2034326 - 10/11/18 02:34 PM Re: Meachum fired. [Re: Defixione]
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God, the dolphin torture of Kansas football. Strap my body in and burn it with a cigar butt. Choke me from life-giving water. Let a toddler slap at my temples with a tack hammer.

Who could possibly consider KU football a form of pleasure and entertainment, a diversion from life's usual droning frustrations? Only us. We dwindling, demented fools.

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#2034329 - 10/11/18 03:14 PM Re: Meachum fired. [Re: Kirk]
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Registered: 05/22/08
Loc: Denver, CO
Originally Posted By: Kirk
God, the dolphin torture of Kansas football. Strap my body in and burn it with a cigar butt. Choke me from life-giving water. Let a toddler slap at my temples with a tack hammer.

Who could possibly consider KU football a form of pleasure and entertainment, a diversion from life's usual droning frustrations? Only us. We dwindling, demented fools.
Unfortunately, you are correct that I (at least) consider this game each week as a pinnacle of entertainment for my week...sad.
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#2034337 - 10/13/18 08:04 AM Re: Meachum fired. [Re: Defixione]
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Beaty hasn't really boosted the program for sure, but the defensive side of the ball is better now than it was under the abominable Chaz Frontbutt. Like I've said before.....there ARE pieces now on this team that will not necessitate a start from scratch mentality, but it WILL require COMPETENCE.

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#2034339 - 10/13/18 09:15 AM Re: Meachum fired. [Re: Defixione]
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Registered: 12/29/06
Loc: Wichita
The D is not bad. Bowen catches a lot of heat but I think he has done a decent job with what he has. Also the D would have been better over yhe last couple years if the offense was better and on the field more. I wonder where the program would be if KUhad made Bowen the full time coach. That said I am not advocating keeping Bowen. He is too tainted now to stick around when Beaty is fired.

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#2034340 - 10/13/18 09:29 AM Re: Meachum fired. [Re: moose1]
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Registered: 08/31/08
Loc: Kansas
Originally Posted By: moose1
Originally Posted By: Kman_blue
Beaty is gonna go down swingin till the end. Whatever anyone's opinion of him as a coach is, he really is a non-stop energizer bunny kind of guy who'll never quit until absolutely forced to.

I'm still real curious about Vollmar and Long's roles in this coaching shakeup. I think both those guys know what they're doing when it comes to football programs and I think they both definitely had some kind of say in this.


I tend to agree Vollmar has had input during the year. The program seems to have more of a firm direction and different feel to it. That said I don't think they directed Beaty to dire Meachum. I am just not sure what it gets tou. All it does is put more on Beaty's plate and he seems to have a har enough time with his current duties.
Nah, I don't think anyone directed Beaty to fire Meacham, but I also don't think Beaty did it all on his own and told Vollmar about it later either. Long probably had final say, but didn't weigh in directly is my guess.
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#2034341 - 10/13/18 09:30 AM Re: Meachum fired. [Re: Josh2408]
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Registered: 08/31/08
Loc: Kansas
Originally Posted By: Josh2408
Meaning what that Beaty may not be on his way out like we all thought he is?
Meaning, he wasn't gonna get fired during the bye week like a lot of fans thought. He's probably not gonna get fired before the end of the season either.
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#2034342 - 10/13/18 09:39 AM Re: Meachum fired. [Re: Defixione]
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Registered: 05/22/08
Loc: Denver, CO
It seems like the firing of Meachum would be agreeable for Vollmar/Long duo at this juncture of the latest version of a dumpster fire.

He doesn't need to be present at the end of this season when the Beaty Ball era ends. One less exit interview for a former employee.
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#2034343 - 10/13/18 09:43 AM Re: Meachum fired. [Re: Kman_blue]
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Registered: 05/22/08
Loc: Denver, CO
Originally Posted By: Kman_blue
Originally Posted By: Josh2408
Meaning what that Beaty may not be on his way out like we all thought he is?
Meaning, he wasn't gonna get fired during the bye week like a lot of fans thought. He's probably not gonna get fired before the end of the season either.
After six games, Beaty not fired until the end of the season isn't really news anymore. He gets his full four year trial experience. Then he gets disbarred .
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#2034346 - 10/13/18 12:28 PM Re: Meachum fired. [Re: Defixione]
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Registered: 09/25/05
Loc: Austin
^ Exactly.

Long’s primary goal shouldn’t be to fire Beaty, but to hire the best possible head coach. There’s a difference.

In fact though, who knows. His thumb could be up his bum for all we know. Basketball might be all he cares about.

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#2034347 - 10/13/18 02:20 PM Re: Meachum fired. [Re: Kirk]
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Registered: 10/02/13
Originally Posted By: Kirk
^ Exactly.

Long’s primary goal shouldn’t be to fire Beaty, but to hire the best possible head coach. There’s a difference.

In fact though, who knows. His thumb could be up his bum for all we know. Basketball might be all he cares about.


Hire the best coach possible is right. My understanding is that Zenger was fired because of football and Long was hired to fix football. I'm sure he care's about basketball too, but the football program is leaving a lot of unrealized revenue on the table and KUA Inc. is spending more than it's taking in. The unsigned deal with Addidas is not helping on that front either.
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#2034348 - 10/13/18 04:09 PM Re: Meachum fired. [Re: Defixione]
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Registered: 01/03/15
Loc: Indiana
They may also be waiting to see what kind of trouble Kansas is going to be in before we hire a new Head Coach cause if we are guilty which I fear we are, then the sanctions will kill us anyway
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#2034350 - 10/13/18 08:50 PM Re: Meachum fired. [Re: Defixione]
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Any sanctions will be aimed at the basketball program, not football. There has been no mention of KU football in this. Do our football recruiting classes look like they've been paid to come here?
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#2034351 - 10/14/18 06:56 AM Re: Meachum fired. [Re: AlOerter]
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Registered: 05/22/08
Loc: Denver, CO
Originally Posted By: AlOerter
Any sanctions will be aimed at the basketball program, not football. There has been no mention of KU football in this. Do our football recruiting classes look like they've been paid to come here?
Yes sanctions, if any, would relate to bbl program only.
The football program will likely continue for years with "self imposed sanctions-roster depletion, etc."
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#2034354 - 10/14/18 09:07 AM Re: Meachum fired. [Re: Defixione]
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I wonder if Long gave him a minimum win total, and Beaty is starting to feel desperate. I would also love to know what calls Beaty disagreed with Meachum on.

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#2034356 - 10/14/18 09:38 AM Re: Meachum fired. [Re: moose1]
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Registered: 05/22/08
Loc: Denver, CO
Originally Posted By: moose1
I wonder if Long gave him a minimum win total, and Beaty is starting to feel desperate. I would also love to know what calls Beaty disagreed with Meachum on.
If Beaty thinks KSU is a possible win, the KSU win yesterday over OSU was televised here. Yes, the kicking game is inconsistent for Snyder but really a stretch to think they can beat KSU. Even with a walkon QB fifth year athlete. Guy can run at 6'6" 200+ lbs.


Typical Beaty move to fire Meachum and hide behind bye week to NOT be available for media questioning. Just one of many reasons to show why he is not qualified to be a Head Coach for Kansas!
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#2034359 - 10/14/18 09:58 AM Re: Meachum fired. [Re: KUCO_VOC]
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Registered: 12/12/03
Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
Originally Posted By: moose1
I wonder if Long gave him a minimum win total, and Beaty is starting to feel desperate. I would also love to know what calls Beaty disagreed with Meachum on.
If Beaty thinks KSU is a possible win, the KSU win yesterday over OSU was televised here. Yes, the kicking game is inconsistent for Snyder but really a stretch to think they can beat KSU. Even with a walkon QB fifth year athlete. Guy can run at 6'6" 200+ lbs.


Typical Beaty move to fire Meachum and hide behind bye week to NOT be available for media questioning. Just one of many reasons to show why he is not qualified to be a Head Coach for Kansas!


He's not qualified to be the head coach at South Cherokee Plains HS in Lafayette, Louisiana. Or SCLSU

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#2034361 - 10/14/18 11:10 AM Re: Meachum fired. [Re: Defixione]
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Registered: 12/29/06
Loc: Wichita
He better be careful with what he does on his way out. It may affect future job opportunities.

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#2034382 - 10/15/18 03:26 PM Re: Meachum fired. [Re: moose1]
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Originally Posted By: moose1
I wonder if Long gave him a minimum win total, and Beaty is starting to feel desperate. I would also love to know what calls Beaty disagreed with Meachum on.
I seriously doubt if Long is that involved in the day-to-day operations of the program. I think he will wait until the end of the season to make any decisions.
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#2034383 - 10/15/18 03:27 PM Re: Meachum fired. [Re: Jman1]
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Originally Posted By: Jman1
Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
Originally Posted By: moose1
I wonder if Long gave him a minimum win total, and Beaty is starting to feel desperate. I would also love to know what calls Beaty disagreed with Meachum on.
If Beaty thinks KSU is a possible win, the KSU win yesterday over OSU was televised here. Yes, the kicking game is inconsistent for Snyder but really a stretch to think they can beat KSU. Even with a walkon QB fifth year athlete. Guy can run at 6'6" 200+ lbs.


Typical Beaty move to fire Meachum and hide behind bye week to NOT be available for media questioning. Just one of many reasons to show why he is not qualified to be a Head Coach for Kansas!


He's not qualified to be the head coach at South Cherokee Plains HS in Lafayette, Louisiana. Or SCLSU
At least he would have the waterboy as a top player.
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#2034384 - 10/15/18 03:50 PM Re: Meachum fired. [Re: moose1]
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Registered: 09/01/02
Loc: Topeka, Kansas
Originally Posted By: moose1
I wonder if Long gave him a minimum win total, and Beaty is starting to feel desperate. I would also love to know what calls Beaty disagreed with Meachum on.


I have it on good authority that he disliked the ones leading to the turnovers......."dumb play calling!" whistle

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#2034386 - 10/15/18 06:16 PM Re: Meachum fired. [Re: Defixione]
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Well we know that Beaty failed before when he was in charge of play calling. So how is it going to be any better?
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#2034394 - 10/16/18 07:52 AM Re: Meachum fired. [Re: 58hawk]
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Registered: 09/01/02
Loc: Topeka, Kansas
Originally Posted By: 58hawk
Well we know that Beaty failed before when he was in charge of play calling. So how is it going to be any better?


Simply put, it won't. As a matter of fact, it will likely get much worse.

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#2034396 - 10/16/18 09:14 AM Re: Meachum fired. [Re: beenahawk]
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Registered: 08/31/08
Loc: Kansas
Originally Posted By: beenahawk
Originally Posted By: 58hawk
Well we know that Beaty failed before when he was in charge of play calling. So how is it going to be any better?


Simply put, it won't. As a matter of fact, it will likely get much worse.
We'll find out this Saturday if coach Beaty has learned anything in regards to play calling. Looking at Bender being listed as the starter for this weekend honestly has me doubtful.
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#2034413 - 10/16/18 09:12 PM Re: Meachum fired. [Re: AlOerter]
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Registered: 01/03/15
Loc: Indiana
Originally Posted By: AlOerter
Any sanctions will be aimed at the basketball program, not football. There has been no mention of KU football in this. Do our football recruiting classes look like they've been paid to come here?


Incorrect sanctions would effect every program in the School. As it should unfortunately
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#2034415 - 10/16/18 09:54 PM Re: Meachum fired. [Re: Defixione]
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Loc: Denver, CO
Your ignorant double down on all sports being punished, is something most posters or readers here tried to be polite in explaining. You are completely wrong IF bbl sanctions are imposed that it would result in football sanctions as well.
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#2034424 - 10/17/18 07:45 AM Re: Meachum fired. [Re: Kman_blue]
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Wilt Chamberlain

Registered: 09/01/02
Loc: Topeka, Kansas
Originally Posted By: Kman_blue
Originally Posted By: beenahawk
Originally Posted By: 58hawk
Well we know that Beaty failed before when he was in charge of play calling. So how is it going to be any better?


Simply put, it won't. As a matter of fact, it will likely get much worse.
We'll find out this Saturday if coach Beaty has learned anything in regards to play calling. Looking at Bender being listed as the starter for this weekend honestly has me doubtful.


I see more and more draw plays on the horizon.............

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#2034441 - 10/17/18 04:18 PM Re: Meachum fired. [Re: Defixione]
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Wilt Chamberlain

Registered: 12/16/09
Loc: KCMO
I see more and more unnecessary timeouts being used.
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#2034443 - 10/17/18 04:40 PM Re: Meachum fired. [Re: 58hawk]
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Baby Jay

Registered: 12/23/03
Loc: San Diego, California
I believe Beaty is a graduate of the Andy Reid School of Clock Management.

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#2034448 - 10/17/18 05:57 PM Re: Meachum fired. [Re: Kman_blue]
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Wilt Chamberlain

Registered: 05/17/04
Loc: Flint Hills
Originally Posted By: Kman_blue
Originally Posted By: beenahawk
Originally Posted By: 58hawk
Well we know that Beaty failed before when he was in charge of play calling. So how is it going to be any better?


Simply put, it won't. As a matter of fact, it will likely get much worse.
We'll find out this Saturday if coach Beaty has learned anything in regards to play calling. Looking at Bender being listed as the starter for this weekend honestly has me doubtful.


Agreed. No time like right after 2 consecutive significant offensive improvement games vs Big12 competition to fire the O-coordinator.
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#2034474 - 10/18/18 01:13 PM Re: Meachum fired. [Re: Defixione]
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Max Falkenstien

Registered: 12/12/03
Still think Beaty had underlying motives, as I believe Meacham would have been the interim HC if Long showed Beaty the door this week or next, effectively securing his job til the end of the year.

I mean come on, at this point Beaty HAS TO REALIZE he's dead man walking

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#2034476 - 10/18/18 02:33 PM Re: Meachum fired. [Re: Jman1]
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Max Falkenstien

Registered: 12/29/06
Loc: Wichita
Originally Posted By: Jman1
Still think Beaty had underlying motives, as I believe Meacham would have been the interim HC if Long showed Beaty the door this week or next, effectively securing his job til the end of the year.

I mean come on, at this point Beaty HAS TO REALIZE he's dead man walking


I don't think Meacham being gone secures anything. If they are going to let Beaty go in the middle of the year they are going to do it. It does not matter who is around to step in. They could just as easily make Bowen the interim coach. Interim coach means nothing.

I think Beaty does know he is a dead man walking, and if he is going to go out he wants to have his hand on the wheel as much as possible.

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#2034477 - 10/18/18 02:35 PM Re: Meachum fired. [Re: Defixione]
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Max Falkenstien

Registered: 12/29/06
Loc: Wichita
Truth be told Beaty would be better served if his hand was off the wheel as much as possible!

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#2034478 - 10/18/18 04:26 PM Re: Meachum fired. [Re: Defixione]
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Wilt Chamberlain

Registered: 10/02/13
I don't think Beaty cares who the interim will be. This a just a desperation move to prevent there from being an interim.
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#2034499 - Yesterday at 03:59 PM Re: Meachum fired. [Re: moose1]
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Max Falkenstien

Registered: 12/12/03
beaty, tho not a complete imbocile(but close) or good football coach(not close) does understand that making a measly $100,000-150,000 per loss is FAR better than having to go through the money grubbing lawyers to get the cash after the fact. I agree they could just as easily make Bowen Interim HC. Been there tried that. Below average, poor defensive coordinator that got a token interview to be head coach to no avail, so naming him again would just be an exercise in semantics and futility and in my opinion, I don't think Long plays that grade school game. I think Beaty pretty much knew if the boot was put to A$$, Meacham would be the guy, so to protect himself he removed the problem from the solution. look at the rest of the assistants:

Who on that staff would you be comfortable with even handing an interim to? I see none, except Bill, maybe.

I will say if they announced any of the following as Interim Head Coach to replace Beaty til the end of the season, I would be pretty ecstatic:

1. Barney Fife
2. Barney Rubble
3. Barney The Purple Dinosaur
4. Bernie Sanders
5. Elmer Fudd
6. Foghorn Leghorn
7. Rip Van Winkle
8. Any one of the 3 Stooges
9. Tinker Bell
10. Richard Simmons
11. Madonna
12. Cher
13. Sister Theresa

It's a fairly prestigious list, but when it comes to KU football and head coaching hires I would think Bernie Sanders would shoot right to the top. H3ll,no interview required for Bernie if he wants the job


Edited by Jman1 (Yesterday at 04:18 PM)

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#2034500 - Yesterday at 04:03 PM Re: Meachum fired. [Re: Jman1]
beenahawk Offline
Wilt Chamberlain

Registered: 09/01/02
Loc: Topeka, Kansas
Originally Posted By: Jman1


I will say if they announced any of the following as Interim Head Coach to replace Beaty til the end of the season, I would be pretty ecstatic:

1. Barney Fife
2. Barney Rubble
3. Barney The Purple Dinosaur
4. Bernie Sanders
5. Elmer Fudd
6. Foghorn Leghorn
7. Rip Van Winkle
8. Any one of the 3 Stooges
9. Tinker Bell
10. Richard Simmons


Nice list. I could go with any of your choices because NONE of them use the word "DUDE". whistle

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#2034501 - Yesterday at 04:20 PM Re: Meachum fired. [Re: beenahawk]
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Max Falkenstien

Registered: 12/12/03
I had to add a couple of people to be "diverse". So hence the group grew by a few.

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#2034505 - Yesterday at 06:06 PM Re: Meachum fired. [Re: Defixione]
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Wilt Chamberlain

Registered: 12/16/09
Loc: KCMO
Foghorn Leghorn would be my choice. "Anybody get the number off that truck".
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