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#2033487 - 09/14/18 04:33 PM kansas defense ranked #38 in the Nation
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#2033488 - 09/14/18 05:11 PM Re: kansas defense ranked #38 in the Nation [Re: Josh2408]
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Not bad but we really haven't played anyone yet.
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#2033493 - 09/14/18 10:47 PM Re: kansas defense ranked #38 in the Nation [Re: Josh2408]
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Don't mean S#!t. KU had a top 5 recruiting class at one point last year and see how that turned out! I imagine we'll end up ranked in the 75-85 range by years end.

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#2033508 - 09/15/18 02:50 PM Re: kansas defense ranked #38 in the Nation [Re: INation]
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Registered: 12/12/03
Originally Posted By: INation
Don't mean S#!t. KU had a top 5 recruiting class at one point last year and see how that turned out! I imagine we'll end up ranked in the 75-85 range by years end.


I think you mean more like 105 after the B9 Rib roastings, but if they continue to get those yummy apple turnovers, they might actually be in the 50s or 60s at years end

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#2033580 - 09/17/18 04:11 PM Re: kansas defense ranked #38 in the Nation [Re: Josh2408]
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Now sitting at #15 D in the nation after the Rutgers game.

Some more numbers to take a gander at.

KU's current national rank(conf. rank) and (stat)
#1(#1) Defensive TD's (3)
#1(#1) Turnover margin (+4.00/game)
#1(#1) Turnovers gained (+13.00)
#1(#1) Interceptions thrown (0 only Big 12 team without 1)
#2(#1) Pass efficiency D (81.05)
#2(#1) Interceptions (7)
#2(#1) Fumbles recovered (6)
#2(#1) Turnovers lost (1)
#4(#2) blocked punts (2)
#14(#1) passing yards allowed (147.7)
#15(#1) Total D (294.3)
#21(#2) Time of Possession (33:01)
#24(#3) Defensive 1st downs allowed (43)
#25(#2) Scoring D (15.7)
#34(#3) Rushing O (224.00)

On the individual front,
Nat. Rank(conf.), Player, Category (Stat)

#1(#1), Joe Dineen, Solo Tackles (8.7)
#3(#1), Joe Dineen, Total Tackles (13.3)
#3(#1), Shak Taylor, Forced fumbles (.67)
#3(#1), Bryce Torneden, Fumbles Recovered (2)
#27(#1), Pooka Williams, Rushing yards (283)
#31(#2), Kyle Thompson, Punting (43.1)
#31(#4), Kwamie Lassiter II, Punt Returns (10.3)
#40(#1), Pooka Williams, Rushing TD's (3)

Pooka's rankings are also compared to guys who've played in 3 games so far in contrast to him only playing in 2! Also, if Pooka had the minimum % of participation in KU's games (75%) he would be leading the conference in both rushing yards per game at 141.5 and rushing yards per carry at 8.84. He'd also be #6 and #5 in those categories nationally. They won't count him in those categories until he plays against Baylor when he'll meet the 75% participation threshold.

We also have 7 different players with at least 1 INT. That's crazy!

Obviously still too early to have much confidence in all of these numbers holding up till the end of the season, but it's nice to see them now nonetheless.
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#2033582 - 09/17/18 04:34 PM Re: kansas defense ranked #38 in the Nation [Re: Kman_blue]
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Max Falkenstien

Registered: 07/03/09
CMU QB and Rutgers QB had little experience and it was easy to pick off their passes. Baylor QB Brewer is a soph and has some experience. He will be more of a challenge.

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#2033583 - 09/17/18 04:56 PM Re: kansas defense ranked #38 in the Nation [Re: Josh2408]
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Registered: 05/22/08
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First real challenge coming up. If we keep H Defense from screwing up late in the game, a chance to hang close. Baylor to win, but due to more experienced coaching and that QB.
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#2033584 - 09/17/18 05:18 PM Re: kansas defense ranked #38 in the Nation [Re: Josh2408]
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Registered: 12/29/06
Loc: Wichita
Good stuff. Competition is getting tougher. More importantly let's see how KU does without a bunch of turnovers. They are great, but even with a good defense they just do not come at this rate. Things have a tendency to average out. That said if they average out over 10 years, KU is probably due to generate a lot more turnovers this year!

It has been fun so far. Let's see where things go from here.

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#2033588 - 09/17/18 10:10 PM Re: kansas defense ranked #38 in the Nation [Re: pizzanbeer]
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Loc: Kansas
Originally Posted By: pizzanbeer
CMU QB and Rutgers QB had little experience and it was easy to pick off their passes. Baylor QB Brewer is a soph and has some experience. He will be more of a challenge.
Yep, mostly correct, though CMU QB is a RS Soph. with 16 games experience under his belt.

CMU QB, Poljan, is currently rated the #116 QB in terms of QB rating, with 4 INTs(all against KU) to 1 TD.

Rutgers QB, Sitkowski, is currently rated the #118 QB with 7 INTs(3 against KU) and 1 TD.

Baylor QB, Brewer, is currently rated the #54 QB with 1 INT and 3 TDs.

Bender for comparison is currently rated the #91 QB with 0 INTs and 3 TDs.

Main difference between Bender and Brewer(in terms of QB rating) is the fact that Brewer has thrown it a ton more than Bender and so has a lot more passing yards(641yds vs. 390yds). Both are throwing right at about a 60% completion rate with Brewer throwing right at 60% and Bender throwing at 60.3%. As you can see both have the same number of TD's while Bender has no INTs and Brewer has 1.
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#2033589 - 09/17/18 10:15 PM Re: kansas defense ranked #38 in the Nation [Re: moose1]
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Wilt Chamberlain

Registered: 08/31/08
Loc: Kansas
Originally Posted By: moose1
Good stuff. Competition is getting tougher. More importantly let's see how KU does without a bunch of turnovers. They are great, but even with a good defense they just do not come at this rate. Things have a tendency to average out. That said if they average out over 10 years, KU is probably due to generate a lot more turnovers this year!

It has been fun so far. Let's see where things go from here.
I agree, can't rely on getting 6 TO's a game.

For comparison when talking about averaging out, KU already has 4 more TO's in 3 games than we had in all of last year in 12 games. We may not get a TO in every game, but it does look like this years team has a knack for getting them as some teams always seem to do in some years.
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#2033635 - 09/19/18 01:56 PM Re: kansas defense ranked #38 in the Nation [Re: Josh2408]
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Registered: 05/22/08
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But let’s not double Beaty’s salary just yet.
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#2033643 - 09/19/18 04:29 PM Re: kansas defense ranked #38 in the Nation [Re: Kman_blue]
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Max Falkenstien

Registered: 07/03/09
Originally Posted By: Kman_blue
Originally Posted By: pizzanbeer
CMU QB and Rutgers QB had little experience and it was easy to pick off their passes. Baylor QB Brewer is a soph and has some experience. He will be more of a challenge.
Yep, mostly correct, though CMU QB is a RS Soph. with 16 games experience under his belt.


Poljan threw 21 passes in 2017 for a total of 78 yards which is the equivalent of playing 1 game at QB. If you break his stats down by game then he only threw the ball 1 or 2 times in most games where he played. The official CMU site does not list Poljan as a RS Soph either. It lists him as a true Soph. I stand by my description of Poljan as a QB with little experience.


Edited by pizzanbeer (09/19/18 04:32 PM)

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#2033644 - 09/19/18 04:56 PM Re: kansas defense ranked #38 in the Nation [Re: pizzanbeer]
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Registered: 05/22/08
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Originally Posted By: pizzanbeer
Originally Posted By: Kman_blue
Originally Posted By: pizzanbeer
CMU QB and Rutgers QB had little experience and it was easy to pick off their passes. Baylor QB Brewer is a soph and has some experience. He will be more of a challenge.
Yep, mostly correct, though CMU QB is a RS Soph. with 16 games experience under his belt.


Poljan threw 21 passes in 2017 for a total of 78 yards which is the equivalent of playing 1 game at QB. If you break his stats down by game then he only threw the ball 1 or 2 times in most games where he played. The official CMU site does not list Poljan as a RS Soph either. It lists him as a true Soph. I stand by my description of Poljan as a QB with little experience.
Great kman, you are now back on the unicorn claiming we beat a #1 ranked QB from Alabama. Get real.
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#2033645 - 09/19/18 05:01 PM Re: kansas defense ranked #38 in the Nation [Re: Josh2408]
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Mostly correct means not really relevant
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#2033646 - 09/19/18 05:35 PM Re: kansas defense ranked #38 in the Nation [Re: pizzanbeer]
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Originally Posted By: pizzanbeer
Originally Posted By: Kman_blue
Originally Posted By: pizzanbeer
CMU QB and Rutgers QB had little experience and it was easy to pick off their passes. Baylor QB Brewer is a soph and has some experience. He will be more of a challenge.
Yep, mostly correct, though CMU QB is a RS Soph. with 16 games experience under his belt.


Poljan threw 21 passes in 2017 for a total of 78 yards which is the equivalent of playing 1 game at QB. If you break his stats down by game then he only threw the ball 1 or 2 times in most games where he played. The official CMU site does not list Poljan as a RS Soph either. It lists him as a true Soph. I stand by my description of Poljan as a QB with little experience.
Poljan graduated from HS in 2016 and NCAA says he played in 2 games in 2016. Maybe he got a medical RS year in 2016? Either way, he's had a RS year and thus is a RS Sophomore unless something really funky went on. He mostly ran the ball last year rather than pass, so they mostly used him in specific situations, but he did play in all 13 of their games.

My point though wasn't that Poljan is a QB with a lot of experience, but rather that Brewer doesn't really have a lot more experience than Poljan does. Yes, Brewer has thrown it a lot more, but he's still a true Sophomore who's only played in 11 games total for his entire college career so far.
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