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#2033364 - 09/09/18 10:09 AM What if we take care of Rutgers?
jayhawkfan0710 Offline
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Big if I know, but if KU puts together another impressive performance, is there anyway Beaty can start to get off the hot seat? Or does he need a bowl appearance? BTW, Nicholls got beat handedly by Tulane yesterday.

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#2033365 - 09/09/18 10:30 AM Re: What if we take care of Rutgers? [Re: jayhawkfan0710]
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That, plus a win over Baylor and/or Oklahoma State would probably start to indicate a meaningful, positive change of direction.

Then again, who knows what AD Long and company have cooking on the back burner.

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#2033367 - 09/09/18 10:39 AM Re: What if we take care of Rutgers? [Re: jayhawkfan0710]
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I still maintain that we need to make some type of bowl game.
4th season? yeah....right now the recruiting prospects are dismal.
Proof is in the pudding.

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#2033368 - 09/09/18 10:45 AM Re: What if we take care of Rutgers? [Re: jayhawkfan0710]
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Bowl game..bawwahhaharhaehar...BOWL GAME...ARE WE TALKING ABOUT A BOWL GAME...3 or 4 wins tops will keep Beaty at old KU...
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#2033376 - 09/09/18 12:55 PM Re: What if we take care of Rutgers? [Re: jayhawkfan0710]
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A 2-10 season gets no one off the hotseat. He'd have to actually win multiple Big 12 games to change anyone's mind.
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#2033377 - 09/09/18 02:40 PM Re: What if we take care of Rutgers? [Re: jayhawkfan0710]
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Let's just say that he goes 5-7, with wins over Central Michigan, Rutgers, Baylor, Kansas State and Iowa State. Does that give him another year?
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#2033378 - 09/09/18 03:05 PM Re: What if we take care of Rutgers? [Re: JHawkJunkie74]
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Originally Posted By: JHawkJunkie74
Let's just say that he goes 5-7, with wins over Central Michigan, Rutgers, Baylor, Kansas State and Iowa State. Does that give him another year?


You're talking 3 times more wins then MM had his last year here. The "let's hire MM" people would surely want to keep DB.

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#2033379 - 09/09/18 03:39 PM Re: What if we take care of Rutgers? [Re: JHawkJunkie74]
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Originally Posted By: JHawkJunkie74
Let's just say that he goes 5-7, with wins over Central Michigan, Rutgers, Baylor, Kansas State and Iowa State. Does that give him another year?


You bet. And if he wins all of our remaining regular season games, we'll be in the playoffs. And if he wins all of those games, Kansas will be National Champion.

See how this works?

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#2033381 - 09/09/18 03:56 PM Re: What if we take care of Rutgers? [Re: Kirk]
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Registered: 12/12/03
Originally Posted By: Kirk
Originally Posted By: JHawkJunkie74
Let's just say that he goes 5-7, with wins over Central Michigan, Rutgers, Baylor, Kansas State and Iowa State. Does that give him another year?


You bet. And if he wins all of our remaining regular season games, we'll be in the playoffs. And if he wins all of those games, Kansas will be National Champion.

See how this works?


Delusional: Per Websters:

Psychiatry. maintaining fixed false beliefs even when confronted with facts, usually as a result of mental illness:

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#2033383 - 09/09/18 05:54 PM Re: What if we take care of Rutgers? [Re: jayhawkfan0710]
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So I guess a 5-7 record and bowl invitation will bring him back. OK, just wondering what the expectations were.
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#2033384 - 09/09/18 07:28 PM Re: What if we take care of Rutgers? [Re: PHOGUSHER]
jayhawkfan0710 Offline
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No one predicted a bowl game phog. The question was asked whether Beaty needed a bowl game to keep his job.

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#2033385 - 09/09/18 07:52 PM Re: What if we take care of Rutgers? [Re: jayhawkfan0710]
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It is going to take a lot. A 5 and 7 record with wins over K State and Iowa State might do it. The Nichols State game did not do him any favors. I would want to see him act like a coach. Too many excuses, too many indecisive moves, lack of confidence. I really don 't want to see him back, but if he does well enough he will be. I don't think they brought in Long to keep Beaty around.

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#2033386 - 09/09/18 08:12 PM Re: What if we take care of Rutgers? [Re: jayhawkfan0710]
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MM won 5 his last year here. That wasn't good enough to keep the best coach we will likely ever have.....if we're talking standards based on past history. Obviously, those have lowered tremendously for obvious reasons.

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#2033387 - 09/09/18 08:39 PM Re: What if we take care of Rutgers? [Re: vmlb]
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Originally Posted By: vmlb
Originally Posted By: JHawkJunkie74
Let's just say that he goes 5-7, with wins over Central Michigan, Rutgers, Baylor, Kansas State and Iowa State. Does that give him another year?


You're talking 3 times more wins then MM had his last year here. The "let's hire MM" people would surely want to keep DB.



3 times?

Mangino was 5-7 his last year.
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#2033388 - 09/09/18 08:40 PM Re: What if we take care of Rutgers? [Re: JHawkJunkie74]
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Originally Posted By: JHawkJunkie74
So I guess a 5-7 record and bowl invitation will bring him back. OK, just wondering what the expectations were.


A 5-7 record will not yield a bowl invitation as that is a bowl ineligible record.
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#2033389 - 09/09/18 08:50 PM Re: What if we take care of Rutgers? [Re: JimWest]
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Originally Posted By: JimWest
Originally Posted By: JHawkJunkie74
So I guess a 5-7 record and bowl invitation will bring him back. OK, just wondering what the expectations were.


A 5-7 record will not yield a bowl invitation as that is a bowl ineligible record.
Actually you can get a bowl bid with a 5-7 record if there are not any 6-6 teams left. And I think someone about the team's GPA is factored in.
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#2033390 - 09/09/18 08:54 PM Re: What if we take care of Rutgers? [Re: jayhawkfan0710]
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There are 37 games, 40 if you want to count the College Football Playoff teams. There are 119 FBS teasm. 5-7 will get you into a bowl game if the schools academics are up to qualifications. Nebraska went to a bowl with a 5-7 record a year or so ago.
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#2033391 - 09/09/18 09:30 PM Re: What if we take care of Rutgers? [Re: JHawkJunkie74]
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Originally Posted By: JHawkJunkie74
There are 37 games, 40 if you want to count the College Football Playoff teams. There are 119 FBS teasm. 5-7 will get you into a bowl game if the schools academics are up to qualifications. Nebraska went to a bowl with a 5-7 record a year or so ago.
Yes Nebraska and two others went 5-7 and went bowling after 2015 due to lack of 6 winner teams to fill the bowls. So no 5-7 would not get KU bowling this year. Normally.

We won't have to worry about it.
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#2033402 - 09/10/18 10:23 AM Re: What if we take care of Rutgers? [Re: jayhawkfan0710]
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Originally Posted By: jayhawkfan0710
Big if I know, but if KU puts together another impressive performance, is there anyway Beaty can start to get off the hot seat?
It would probably make his seat marginally less hot.

Originally Posted By: jayhawkfan0710
Or does he need a bowl appearance?
A bowl appearance would solidify him coming back for 2019, but I don't think he "needs" it to be retained. A 5-7 record and maybe even a 4-8 record with the team looking competent in most of the losses probably gets him another year too IMHO.
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#2033404 - 09/10/18 11:08 AM Re: What if we take care of Rutgers? [Re: Kman_blue]
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Registered: 09/01/02
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Originally Posted By: Kman_blue
Originally Posted By: jayhawkfan0710
Big if I know, but if KU puts together another impressive performance, is there anyway Beaty can start to get off the hot seat?
It would probably make his seat marginally less hot.

Originally Posted By: jayhawkfan0710
Or does he need a bowl appearance?
A bowl appearance would solidify him coming back for 2019, but I don't think he "needs" it to be retained. A 5-7 record and maybe even a 4-8 record with the team looking competent in most of the losses probably gets him another year too IMHO.


If, and it is a HUGE "IF", Beaty pulls off 5 wins, MAYBE, maybe he gets retained but! Only if there are more butts in the stands in game 12 than there were for game 1. If not, Long pulls the plug. Beaty has already burned way too much of his fan support with pipe dreams and homey folksy BS.

Personally, I don't think DB and this staff have it in them to win another game. Even with an emerging "Pooka" (Wasn't Harvey, the 6 foot tall invisible rabbit a Pooka? :D) Beaty is still Beaty!

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#2033410 - 09/10/18 11:38 AM Re: What if we take care of Rutgers? [Re: jayhawkfan0710]
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KU looked SO bad in the Nichols state game with all the stupid mistakes, which to me reflects on coaching. Also the indecision by Beaty on important 3rd downs does not give a good feeling. That said the team looked a lot better against CMU. A lot more disciplined. So who knows.

Overall I think Beaty would be better served if he let his assistances calling ALL the plays, and handling down and distance issues, and everything else.

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#2033412 - 09/10/18 11:46 AM Re: What if we take care of Rutgers? [Re: moose1]
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I agree, him being more of a general manager type HC would probably suit him best. Worked for the slavers HC Pickle. He even said that's what he did after a few years of being their HC and under performing in an interview.
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#2033418 - 09/10/18 01:34 PM Re: What if we take care of Rutgers? [Re: jayhawkfan0710]
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I would be fine with him being a general manager. I have a friend that played under Mangino, and he didn't think much of him as a coach. However he did think Mangino was a first rate administrator.

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