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#2031090 - 05/23/18 02:54 PM Dedric Lawson next Big 12 POY
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Bill Self on KU


Around 16min to 25 min mark in the podcast.

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#2031188 - 05/30/18 03:27 PM Re: Derrick Lawson next Big 12 POY [Re: Maximus]
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2018 Starting Lineup

C Udoka Azubuike
PF Silvio De Sousa
SF Dedric Lawson
SG K.J. Lawson
PG Charlie Moore

Bench

Quentin Grimes
Marcus Garrett
Lagerald Vick
Sam Cunliffe
Mitch Lightfoot
Devon Dotson
David McCormack
Ochai Agbaji

Garrett and Vick will be interesting next year. Garrett will transfer and Vick will be a 6th man, a graduate transfer, and it possible start at shooting guard, but his lack of "effort" on defense was a Self concern and his shooting ability as a shooting guard could be questioned.


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#2031189 - 05/30/18 03:32 PM Re: Derrick Lawson next Big 12 POY [Re: Maximus]
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#2031190 - 05/30/18 03:41 PM Re: Derrick Lawson next Big 12 POY [Re: Maximus]
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Cedric is #1 and KJ is #13 and changed his number to #2.

Anfernee Hardway is at the game for a reason.

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#2031191 - 05/30/18 04:01 PM Re: Derrick Lawson next Big 12 POY [Re: Maximus]
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Playing time for Sam Cunliff will be in high competition with other KU players. Sam is talented and if he doesn't start, which he has ability to do so, KU should be a top 5 press on ranked team with some thinking able to win a national title.

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#2031193 - 05/30/18 06:25 PM Re: Derrick Lawson next Big 12 POY [Re: Maximus]
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To me Agbaji is kinda the unknown factor. Could be ready to contribute right away or may be a project. I felt Cunliffe was in coach's dog house for some reason last year but is definitely talented enough to play.
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#2031196 - 05/30/18 09:50 PM Re: Derrick Lawson next Big 12 POY [Re: Maximus]
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Originally Posted By: Maximus
2018 Starting Lineup

C Udoka Azubuike
PF Silvio De Sousa
SF Dedric Lawson
SG K.J. Lawson
PG Charlie Moore

Bench

Quentin Grimes
Marcus Garrett
Lagerald Vick
Sam Cunliffe
Mitch Lightfoot
Devon Dotson
David McCormack
Ochai Agbaji

Garrett and Vick will be interesting next year. Garrett will transfer and Vick will be a 6th man, a graduate transfer, and it possible start at shooting guard, but his lack of "effort" on defense was a Self concern and his shooting ability as a shooting guard could be questioned.


I guess I missed it about Vick not hiring an agent?
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#2031197 - 05/30/18 10:29 PM Re: Derrick Lawson next Big 12 POY [Re: Maximus]
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Vick make a mistake hiring an agent? Both Lawson brother better?

Europe or D league bound possible.
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#2031244 - 06/04/18 08:21 AM Re: Derrick Lawson next Big 12 POY [Re: Maximus]
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Lightfoot a SF not a C

It's hard eating so much to gain muscle.

Self has a problem with too many 3's and 2's. Someone will transfer, Sherron Collins talent will be on the bench, and a once projected 2nd round draft pick, according to NBA Draft, might not start, and could be the 6th man off the bench, like Steve Woodberry.

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#2031304 - 06/06/18 07:34 AM Re: Derrick Lawson next Big 12 POY [Re: Maximus]
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#2031306 - 06/06/18 07:46 AM Re: Derrick Lawson next Big 12 POY [Re: Maximus]
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David McCormack is huge. David, #33, is a future lottery pick who will get better battling Silvio De Souza and Dok.

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#2031893 - 06/30/18 03:31 PM Re: Derrick Lawson next Big 12 POY [Re: Maximus]
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After digesting/discussing Vick’s return to #KUbball I think I’ll stick w/ the same starting 5 prediction. Could change. Not by any means a given that he’ll start.

PG - Dotson (Moore)
SG - Grimes (Vick)
3G - Garrett (K.J. Lawson)
PF - D. Lawson (Silvio)
C - Udoka (McCormack)


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#2031964 - 07/04/18 04:44 PM Re: Derrick Lawson next Big 12 POY [Re: Maximus]
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Vick will start. Self likes Seniors.
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#2031967 - 07/04/18 06:39 PM Re: Derrick Lawson next Big 12 POY [Re: Maximus]
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D Lawson will be the POY for sure. His brother is the wildcard. He won the Freshman of the year from the conference they came from.

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#2031985 - 07/05/18 03:47 PM Re: Derrick Lawson next Big 12 POY [Re: The_Know]
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for sure?
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#2032009 - 07/06/18 08:05 PM Re: Derrick Lawson next Big 12 POY [Re: tmcats]
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Originally Posted By: tmcats
for sure?
Are you insinuating that is should be Wade?
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#2032011 - 07/07/18 09:23 AM Re: Derrick Lawson next Big 12 POY [Re: 58hawk]
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Originally Posted By: tmcats
for sure?
Are you insinuating that is should be Wade?


dean wade will undoubtedly be preseason poy, probably unanimous. if he stays healthy, he won't be losing that distinction to a transfer/underclassman. my expectation is that this will be a great race for the conference championship - the way it used to be before lon kruger left for florida - if dean stays on the floor. if not, ku will win it by 4-5 games again and someone else will be named player of the year, maybe from ISU or WVU.
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#2032016 - 07/07/18 03:40 PM Re: Derrick Lawson next Big 12 POY [Re: Maximus]
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Dedric, a 6-foot-9, 240-pound sophomore forward, averaged 19.2 points and 9.9 rebounds and blocked 68 shots while playing 34.5 minutes a game last season for the Memphis.

Dean Wade averaged 16.2 points on 55 percent shooting (198-of-360), including 44 percent (40-of-91) from 3-point range, with 6.2 rebounds, 2.7 assists, 1.5 steals and 0.8 blocks in 32.8 minutes per game… Connected on 75.2 percent (97-of-129) from the free throw line.


Lawson will play against Wade and outperform him.


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#2032017 - 07/07/18 03:47 PM Re: Derrick Lawson next Big 12 POY [Re: tmcats]
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Originally Posted By: tmcats

dean wade will undoubtedly be preseason poy, probably unanimous. if he stays healthy, he won't be losing that distinction to a transfer/underclassman.


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#2032018 - 07/07/18 04:45 PM Re: Derrick Lawson next Big 12 POY [Re: Maximus]
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lol. i'm not wrong on wade being preseason poy. i may be wrong on the conference race.

your guy's numbers in the aac are not equatable to B12 play where dean averaged 19 and 6.
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#2032085 - 07/10/18 02:40 PM Re: Derrick Lawson next Big 12 POY [Re: tmcats]
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The poor sap's Larry Bird is a less athletic version of Mitch Lightfoot with a better jump shot. He would be about the 5th man in the KU big man rotation next year behind De Sousa and McCormack....POY, ah ha ha ha ha! good one dimmy!
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#2032086 - 07/10/18 03:08 PM Re: Derrick Lawson next Big 12 POY [Re: parkhawk3319]
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I don't know who all is returning for what school next season. d. wade is first team pre season for sure. Will he be pre season poy? Maybe. Could be.

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#2032095 - 07/10/18 10:46 PM Re: Derrick Lawson next Big 12 POY [Re: Maximus]
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K-State fans with team player bias making their quick thought debated with Big 12 fans. Self will probably vote for Wiggington and not Wade.

Liddell Wiggington - Iowa State

Nation wide opinion has Wiggington ranked and Wade not by Andy Katz.

https://www.ncaa.com/news/basketball-men...sketball-season


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#2032138 - 07/11/18 07:47 PM Re: Derrick Lawson next Big 12 POY [Re: Maximus]
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Too bad the list wasn't longer, Wade is probably #21.

First round draft pick definitely; lottery pick maybe by end of season. When we see who declares for the draft at the end of the season he might move up to first big off the bench for us.
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#2032162 - 07/12/18 09:58 AM Re: Derrick Lawson next Big 12 POY [Re: parkhawk3319]
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Originally Posted By: parkhawk3319
Too bad the list wasn't longer, Wade is probably #21.

First round draft pick definitely; lottery pick maybe by end of season. When we see who declares for the draft at the end of the season he might move up to first big off the bench for us.


A Kansas State basketball joke.

Parkhawk, be nice to Tomcat. K-State's football program is headed on the decline.
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#2032164 - 07/12/18 10:03 AM Re: Derrick Lawson next Big 12 POY [Re: tmcats]
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Originally Posted By: tmcats
lol. i'm not wrong on wade being preseason poy. i may be wrong on the conference race.

your guy's numbers in the aac are not equatable to B12 play where dean averaged 19 and 6.


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#2032183 - 07/12/18 07:50 PM Re: Derrick Lawson next Big 12 POY [Re: Maximus]
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Wyd is that purp idiot rambling about.
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#2032188 - 07/12/18 09:56 PM Re: Derrick Lawson next Big 12 POY [Re: PHOGUSHER]
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#2032189 - 07/12/18 10:06 PM Re: Derrick Lawson next Big 12 POY [Re: parkhawk3319]
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#2032192 - 07/13/18 07:36 AM Re: Derrick Lawson next Big 12 POY [Re: parkhawk3319]
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Look like a great game to watch. KJ Lawson stats is nice to read. Likely to do the same at KU.

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#2032193 - 07/13/18 07:40 AM Re: Derrick Lawson next Big 12 POY [Re: parkhawk3319]
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Future NBA Lottery pick? More than likely.

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#2032195 - 07/13/18 08:49 AM Re: Derrick Lawson next Big 12 POY [Re: Maximus]
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Perry Ellis, a SR put up 10 pts and 7 rebs against Spangler and Lattin that year. A freshman putting up 22 pts and 15 rebs are pretty decent numbers for just an AAC player. But we will see how he does when he goes up against the legend and possible National POY Dean Wade. I am sure watching from the bench last year Lawson just an AAC player got a feel for how intimidating the Octagon of Gloom is and how dominating Wade can be when being guarded most of the game by a player half just an AAC players size. Just an AAC player can't be relishing the thought of having to prove himself against Big 12 caliber athletes. I hope just an AAC player doesn't piss himself on the court during the game, that would be humiliating.
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#2032250 - 07/16/18 12:40 PM Re: Derrick Lawson next Big 12 POY [Re: Maximus]
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Situational variation between players may be the overriding factor that ultimately determines POY.
Wade will undoubtedly get more gametime opportunities due to the fact that, if healthy, he will be the Cat's goto guy.
Lawson is in a position of being part of an extremely well stacked roster of talent that includes his position.He'll have to share the ball more and will less often be targeted per possession.'As far as talent and future potential are concerned I don't feel we have a contest to discuss. If Lawson shines in practice the way Self says he does, I'll go with that.
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#2032262 - 07/16/18 03:09 PM just an AAC player [Re: appyhawk]
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I think we have to go with the facts and history here. Dedric “just an AAC player” Lawson has no business being in the conversation with a kid like King Dean. Wade grew up battling and proving himself on the legendary playgrounds of the mean streets of St. John’s, KS. We all know how many McDonald’s AA, D1 and NBA stars started their careers there. And now King Dean is the go-to guy for one of college basketball’s true bluebloods, KSU. King Dean and head coach The Razzle Dazzle Undertaker are returning KSU to the almost half decade of dominance they enjoyed when Lon Kruger consistently had them finishing in 3rd or 4th place in the Big 8, this is a team of destiny! In the meantime, “just an AAC player” played some ball in Memphis, known mostly for BBQ I think. And he had a couple of decent seasons on a mediocre AAC team, a conference whose best team has been UConn, seriously does anyone play basketball in Connecticut? Let’s not kid ourselves, King Dean is the real deal and “just an AAC player” can only hope to try and stay with him when they compete head to head. Hopefully “just an AAC player” can get lots of help and doesn’t get too intimidated; help defense is the only way to contain the double double monster that is King Dean. “Just an AAC player” has never seen up close the kind of athleticism he is about to encounter. Don’t be surprised if “just an AAC player” gets less than half his scoring average if King Dean decides to make a defensive statement at the expense of “just an AAC player”. This season is going to be the King Dean show.
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#2032268 - 07/16/18 09:05 PM Re: just an AAC player [Re: parkhawk3319]
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your sloppy attempt at sarcasm was enlightening only for how poor the attempt. the games between these schools this coming season should be excellent, perhaps epic if state can pull it off behind a small-town kansas youngster and end the conference's embarrassing ku winning streak. wade will be preseason poy. we'll have to see if he carries it to the end.
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#2032271 - 07/16/18 10:00 PM Re: just an AAC player [Re: tmcats]
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Originally Posted By: tmcats
your sloppy attempt at sarcasm was enlightening only for how poor the attempt. the games between these schools this coming season should be excellent, perhaps epic if state can pull it off behind a small-town kansas youngster and end the conference's embarrassing ku winning streak. wade will be preseason poy. we'll have to see if he carries it to the end.
What's embarrassing about a win streak? Because your team didn't do it?
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#2032275 - 07/17/18 08:19 AM Re: just an AAC player [Re: tmcats]
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The closest conference race in a decade and a half of dominance as King Dean runs roughshod through the conference, becomes lottery pick and NBA rookie of the year. Razzle Dazzle Undertaker ends up as National COY. Or as you said, maybe the Cats just return to the mediocrity of the Lon Kruger years.

dimmy; maybe it will help your digestion if I splain that it is parody?
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#2032281 - 07/17/18 09:43 AM Re: just an AAC player [Re: parkhawk3319]
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parody, who are you imitating beyond your own loose lobes? if true, the poor soul is surely incarcerated.
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#2032284 - 07/17/18 10:47 AM Re: just an AAC player [Re: Maximus]
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Lol...in Timmays battle of wits with park he basically is coming unarmed and should raise his white flag. But he is the idiot train that keeps trying to climb that hill.
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#2032285 - 07/17/18 10:55 AM Re: just an AAC player [Re: tmcats]
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if true, the poor soul is surely incarcerated.

I can only imagine, but being stuck inside your skull must feel like that sometimes.
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#2032290 - 07/17/18 11:58 AM Re: just an AAC player [Re: parkhawk3319]
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let me know when you accomplish something in life beyond parody.
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#2032294 - 07/17/18 01:48 PM Re: just an AAC player [Re: tmcats]
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A couple of minutes ago. Wanted you to be the first to know, because your acceptance means a lot to me.
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#2032359 - 07/19/18 02:44 PM Re: Derrick Lawson next Big 12 POY [Re: Maximus]
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#2032379 - 07/20/18 06:50 AM Re: Derrick Lawson next Big 12 POY [Re: Maximus]
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Red- is gonna happen anyways
Orange - No way, this team isn't worthy of a bowl game they don't deserve it.
Yellow - my personal preference, no guarantee he stays for a long time, he would have to be up for it, is the kicker. For selfish reasons I pick this button.
Green- very random, is this to suggest Air Jordan is the best and richest thus signifying green? weird option.
Blue- an incredibly tempting pick. it even looks pretty lol. I don't care for Duke and their success or lack of success does not take away anything from KU and I don't root against teams to lose unless for personal reasons so no.
Purple- tempting pick, I think we might have the horses in the stable to do it without the button.


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#2032435 - 07/23/18 11:55 AM Re: Derrick Lawson next Big 12 POY [Re: Maximus]
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red - no need, he gone
blue - in your dreams
yellow - most logical push
orange - texas football, sure, thus orange
purple - would not shock with dean, barry, x and all da boys
green - shuttering bill's recruiting, nah
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#2032442 - 07/23/18 08:40 PM Re: Derrick Lawson next Big 12 POY [Re: Maximus]
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Purple is the only choice. I would take a National Championship any day of the week and twice on Tuesday. Having Bill around for another 15 years would be great, but if he leaves KU will be fine. If there was a choice of a football National Championship I would take that over basketball right now but that would be the only thing I would want over a basketball National Championship.

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#2032443 - 07/23/18 08:45 PM Re: Derrick Lawson next Big 12 POY [Re: Maximus]
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As for Dean Wade I am guessing he won't even be the best player for K State this next year. I think Barry Brown will end up being better than Wade.

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#2032445 - 07/24/18 07:35 AM Re: Derrick Lawson next Big 12 POY [Re: Maximus]
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Garrett and Vick will be interesting next year. Garrett will transfer and Vick will be a 6th man, a graduate transfer, and it possible start at shooting guard, but his lack of "effort" on defense was a Self concern and his shooting ability as a shooting guard could be questioned.



http://m.kusports.com/news/2018/jul/23/junior-guard-sam-cunliffe-leaving-kansas/

Easy to see someone transferring.

I like Sam Cunliffe over Vick. Sam should have been the 6th man off the bench.

Maybe Sam changes his mind and stays. Sam is too talented, which KU wants him to stay.

Some say, he is doing the best for himself, playing time reason. Bill Self can help get Sam overseas and a shot at the NBA. It's Sam's life and his choice.

I won't be surprise is professional ball if still in his future.



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#2032460 - 07/24/18 11:51 AM Re: Derrick Lawson next Big 12 POY [Re: moose1]
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Originally Posted By: moose1
As for Dean Wade I am guessing he won't even be the best player for K State this next year. I think Barry Brown will end up being better than Wade.


6'3" shooting guards like barry are not all that unique. but a 6'10" youngster who can dominate all phases of the game, now that's something special. dean, if his foot remains healthy, will be both preseason and regular season B12 poy. whether k-state dethrones self's semi-pro outfit is another question. i, frankly, doubt it. but it will be fun to watch unfold. we have a football run to watch first.
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#2032472 - 07/24/18 02:46 PM Re: Derrick Lawson next Big 12 POY [Re: tmcats]
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Originally Posted By: moose1
As for Dean Wade I am guessing he won't even be the best player for K State this next year. I think Barry Brown will end up being better than Wade.


6'3" shooting guards like barry are not all that unique. but a 6'10" youngster who can dominate all phases of the game, now that's something special. dean, if his foot remains healthy, will be both preseason and regular season B12 poy. whether k-state dethrones self's semi-pro outfit is another question. i, frankly, doubt it. but it will be fun to watch unfold. we have a football run to watch first.


Dominate? Wade is a nice player. There has been NOTHING that shows he is dominating. To me that would say he was an unstoppable force. There are not too many players I would consider dominating. Even conference players of the year. Heck even national players of the year. I do not consider most of them dominating. The last player I can think of that would fit that bill would be Anthony Davis. Look he will get some consideration, but I just don't see him as Big XII POY. That said this would be the year for him. I don't see a lot of great players ready to step up and take that mantle.

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#2032474 - 07/24/18 03:43 PM Re: Derrick Lawson next Big 12 POY [Re: moose1]
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20 and 10 would be dominating, no? wade's numbers are better than perry's to this point in time.
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#2032478 - 07/24/18 05:44 PM how can just an AAC player compete [Re: moose1]
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You have to understand that "dominating" in KSU terms is a relative thing. This is from the same school that put out a video about their football "Decade of Dominance", a period which included winning the conference but once and never winning a national title.....but they were at long last competitive. When you have decades of being 8th fiddle, rising to a consistent 3rd and 2nd fiddle is pretty heady stuff. They can be excused for confusing being "competitive" with being "dominant".

When you think about it that way, King Dean is a "dominating" player.

Some might say he could be the most explosive athlete in the Big 12. He could be a lottery pick in next year's NBA draft. dimmy is putting money on it. He is almost as excited about King Dean as he was about Marcus Foster.
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#2032497 - 07/25/18 11:50 AM Re: how can just an AAC player compete [Re: parkhawk3319]
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no, dean is much better than marcus. foster had a splendid freshman year and then went craps and off to creighton. dean, on the other hand, has grown from year to year and his numbers are better than ku legend perry ellis at the same point in time. i'm saying wade is B12 preseason poy. i'm also saying that k-state will again challenge ku for the conference title. they're potentially that good. but it will take more than dean to take down ku. i get that.
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#2032501 - 07/25/18 12:35 PM Re: how can just an AAC player compete [Re: tmcats]
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Originally Posted By: tmcats
no, dean is much better than marcus. foster had a splendid freshman year and then went craps and off to creighton. dean, on the other hand, has grown from year to year and his numbers are better than ku legend perry ellis at the same point in time. i'm saying wade is B12 preseason poy. i'm also saying that k-state will again challenge ku for the conference title. they're potentially that good. but it will take more than dean to take down ku. i get that.
Semi-pro alleges that Self is paying for something here. Proof? Thought so...
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#2032510 - 07/25/18 02:37 PM diminating the Big 12 [Re: tmcats]
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"splendid"....is that lesser or greater than "dominating"?

And since you brought up the notion of more than King Dean, where did you get the 20-10 stats? That seems like more than a small jump from 16.7 and 6.4. As an engineer I can appreciate the concept of rounding off to whole numbers, but rounding off 6.4 would typically be a 6. Which is more than a 50% increase to get to 10 if you are a numbers person (16% increase in scoring isn't a minor number either). Now say King Dean put up numbers like 19.2 and 9.9, those numbers could almost be rounded up to 20 -10. But those numbers were put up by "just an AAC player", not a world class athlete of the caliber of King Dean.

Tell you what dimcat, maybe we can say King Dean is going to be "diminating" in the Big 12 this year. That has an impressive ring to it.
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#2032512 - 07/25/18 02:40 PM Re: diminating the Big 12 [Re: parkhawk3319]
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so now your argument against dean wade being named preseason poy has evolved into the nuances of mathematical rounding? does that mean you yield, like in offering touche'?
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#2032513 - 07/25/18 02:42 PM Re: diminating the Big 12 [Re: tmcats]
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dim, like 20 watts or maybe less
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#2032514 - 07/25/18 02:44 PM Re: diminating the Big 12 [Re: parkhawk3319]
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you failed to answer my question.
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#2032520 - 07/25/18 05:43 PM Re: diminating the Big 12 [Re: Maximus]
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It's appropriate that you are so supportive of one of your players. It just isn't appropriate to continually support him on the KU message board. Don't you ever post on the K-State board?

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#2032526 - 07/25/18 09:26 PM Re: diminating the Big 12 [Re: tmcats]
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Originally Posted By: tmcats
you failed to answer my question.
More like a night light of 8 watts, dimcats
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#2032527 - 07/25/18 09:29 PM Re: diminating the Big 12 [Re: oldalum]
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Originally Posted By: oldalum
It's appropriate that you are so supportive of one of your players. It just isn't appropriate to continually support him on the KU message board. Don't you ever post on the K-State board?
The fanbase doesn't support Liberace, so the answer is no.

Dean will have to go a long ways to beat out the Beezlee in the NBA.
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#2032531 - 07/26/18 10:51 AM Re: diminating the Big 12 [Re: oldalum]
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Originally Posted By: oldalum
It's appropriate that you are so supportive of one of your players. It just isn't appropriate to continually support him on the KU message board. Don't you ever post on the K-State board?


yes, but it's been dead here. and when football comes to play, i leave for the season.

j'hawks will all love wade when he leaves though. they'll be all sorts of, mostly, backhanded compliments thrown his way. like, 'you have to hand it to a kid who won player of the year with bruce as his coach - that's a lot to overcome.' or, 'it's always good to see a kid from kansas experience some modest level of success even at statie - think what he'd have accomplished with bill as his coach.' 'nice little run but ku didn't recruit him for a reason - he'd have rode the bench here.' i can hardly wait to read them.
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#2032536 - 07/26/18 01:47 PM Re: diminating the Big 12 [Re: tmcats]
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Originally Posted By: tmcats
Originally Posted By: oldalum
It's appropriate that you are so supportive of one of your players. It just isn't appropriate to continually support him on the KU message board. Don't you ever post on the K-State board?


yes, but it's been dead here. and when football comes to play, i leave for the season.

j'hawks will all love wade when he leaves though. they'll be all sorts of, mostly, backhanded compliments thrown his way. like, 'you have to hand it to a kid who won player of the year with bruce as his coach - that's a lot to overcome.' or, 'it's always good to see a kid from kansas experience some modest level of success even at statie - think what he'd have accomplished with bill as his coach.' 'nice little run but ku didn't recruit him for a reason - he'd have rode the bench here.' i can hardly wait to read them.


Like most things K State KU fans will probably not say a word. That is if it is not brought up by the likes of you. We just DON'T CARE what happens in Manhattan.

BTW I don't see Wade getting 20 and 10 this year. Going from 16 and 6 to 20 and 10 is a tremendous leap. Plus I think KSU will be better overall this year, and because of that will lead to less touches by Wade.

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#2032538 - 07/26/18 02:17 PM Re: diminating the Big 12 [Re: moose1]
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Math; some get it, some diminate.
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#2032710 - 08/06/18 09:10 PM Re: diminating the Big 12 [Re: moose1]
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#2032711 - 08/06/18 11:05 PM Re: diminating the Big 12 [Re: moose1]
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Originally Posted By: moose1
Originally Posted By: tmcats
Originally Posted By: oldalum
It's appropriate that you are so supportive of one of your players. It just isn't appropriate to continually support him on the KU message board. Don't you ever post on the K-State board?


yes, but it's been dead here. and when football comes to play, i leave for the season.

j'hawks will all love wade when he leaves though. they'll be all sorts of, mostly, backhanded compliments thrown his way. like, 'you have to hand it to a kid who won player of the year with bruce as his coach - that's a lot to overcome.' or, 'it's always good to see a kid from kansas experience some modest level of success even at statie - think what he'd have



accomplished with bill as his coach.' 'nice little run but ku didn't recruit him for a reason - he'd have rode the bench here.' i can hardly wait to read them.


Like most things K State KU fans will probably not say a word. That is if it is not brought up by the likes of you. We just DON'T CARE what happens in Manhattan.

BTW I don't see Wade getting 20 and 10 this year. Going from 16 and 6 to 20 and 10 is a tremendous leap. Plus I think KSU will be better overall this year, and because of that will lead to less touches by Wade.


Kansas is going to have way too much firepower to overcome. Might get that 40-0. It’s awfully hard. 38-0 and we lost and Wichita was like 35-0 and we beat them.
KSU will be very good too. Wade doesn’t really have to do it all. Anthony Davis averaged 14/11/5 and won NPOY and swept all the awards.
The Big 12 belongs to Kansas until someone can prove otherwise. Better chance of an NCAA violation ending the streak than on the court. 😂

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#2032719 - 08/07/18 12:29 PM Re: diminating the Big 12 [Re: KYBLUEBLOOD]
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Great point, Anthony Davis and King Dean are similar players; freak of nature athletes, when they are in the game their mere presence changes everything about the game at both ends of the floor. But King Dean's lack of a unibrow could hurt his chances for NPOY. Maybe King Dean could grow a neck beard to pick up the slack.
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#2032724 - 08/07/18 01:38 PM Re: diminating the Big 12 [Re: parkhawk3319]
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Originally Posted By: parkhawk3319
Great point, Anthony Davis and King Dean are similar players; freak of nature athletes, when they are in the game their mere presence changes everything about the game at both ends of the floor. But King Dean's lack of a unibrow could hurt his chances for NPOY. Maybe King Dean could grow a neck beard to pick up the slack.


i'm not sure if this is a reflection of your bitterness or pettiness?
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#2032729 - 08/07/18 05:26 PM Re: diminating the Big 12 [Re: tmcats]
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When you are gone dimmy I am sad, I am happy now.
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#2032731 - 08/07/18 07:03 PM Re: diminating the Big 12 [Re: parkhawk3319]
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Originally Posted By: parkhawk3319
Great point, Anthony Davis and King Dean are similar players; freak of nature athletes, when they are in the game their mere presence changes everything about the game at both ends of the floor. But King Dean's lack of a unibrow could hurt his chances for NPOY. Maybe King Dean could grow a neck beard to pick up the slack.


Cal was pretty smart in advising AD to trademark that fur above his eyes. AD has made some serious cash merchandising on it. I sure hope he has a healthy year. It’s a win-win for him if he does Either a 5 year 230 million Super Max contract or a 4 year super max and a trade out of NOLA, hopefully to a big market team.

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#2032732 - 08/07/18 07:21 PM Re: diminating the Big 12 [Re: Maximus]
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Oh no Timmay and KY...almost as bad as the dot net these days...
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#2032733 - 08/07/18 09:48 PM Re: diminating the Big 12 [Re: PHOGUSHER]
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College basketball the next few days on the SEC Network, 6 pm Your time Kentucky plays in the Bahamas. Probably lose a few of the 4 games they have scheduled. Paid for harder competition than the Islanders and a few fruit stand workers UNC is known to schedule. That is why our trips generally cost so much more.

Better than spring football practice. 😆

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#2032735 - 08/08/18 07:49 AM Re: diminating the Big 12 [Re: KYBLUEBLOOD]
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And the unibrow is only an asset because AD is a great basketball player. Otherwise he would just be Jacob Pullen trying to sell "Fear the Beard" retro t-shirts on eBay.
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#2032736 - 08/08/18 01:06 PM Re: diminating the Big 12 [Re: KYBLUEBLOOD]
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Originally Posted By: KYBLUEBLOOD
College basketball the next few days on the SEC Network, 6 pm Your time Kentucky plays in the Bahamas. Probably lose a few of the 4 games they have scheduled. Paid for harder competition than the Islanders and a few fruit stand workers UNC is known to schedule. That is why our trips generally cost so much more.

Better than spring football practice. 😆


I hate watching games in that arena. Looks terrible on the teevee.
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#2032737 - 08/08/18 03:48 PM Re: diminating the Big 12 [Re: jhawks99]
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Originally Posted By: jhawks99
Originally Posted By: KYBLUEBLOOD
College basketball the next few days on the SEC Network, 6 pm Your time Kentucky plays in the Bahamas. Probably lose a few of the 4 games they have scheduled. Paid for harder competition than the Islanders and a few fruit stand workers UNC is known to schedule. That is why our trips generally cost so much more.

Better than spring football practice. 😆


I hate watching games in that arena. Looks terrible on the teevee.


I heard that. Ceilings look like they are just above your head by 10 feet and lighting that makes you wonder if you’ve had a mini stroke.

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#2032742 - 08/08/18 09:54 PM Re: diminating the Big 12 [Re: parkhawk3319]
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Originally Posted By: parkhawk3319
When you are gone dimmy dhimmi I am sad, I am happy now.
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#2032746 - 08/08/18 10:38 PM Re: diminating the Big 12 [Re: Maximus]
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All the dot net moroons dropping in...dayumm.
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#2032767 - 08/10/18 03:11 PM Re: diminating the Big 12 [Re: PHOGUSHER]
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Originally Posted By: PHOGUSHER
All the dot net moroons dropping in...dayumm.
Yeah I wonder why those losers are here.
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#2032787 - 08/13/18 08:58 AM Re: Derrick Lawson next Big 12 POY [Re: Maximus]
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Channel Zale.



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#2032788 - 08/13/18 10:51 AM Re: diminating the Big 12 [Re: 58hawk]
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Originally Posted By: 58hawk
Originally Posted By: PHOGUSHER
All the dot net moroons dropping in...dayumm.
Yeah I wonder why those losers are here.


Heard through the grapevine that Vega basically ran the place in the ground. Of course he created it but supposively turned it over to pwhitt. But Vega could'nt leave well enough alone. Been screwing things up. Only a few posters remain. Vega has issues..
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#2032789 - 08/13/18 11:51 AM Re: diminating the Big 12 [Re: PHOGUSHER]
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i can't seem to log on there. maybe banned.
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#2032790 - 08/13/18 12:48 PM Re: diminating the Big 12 [Re: Maximus]
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I had it bookmarked so I can still get in, but there's nothing there except the name and the comment "board empty".

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#2032791 - 08/13/18 01:32 PM Re: diminating the Big 12 [Re: oldalum]
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https://twitter.com/JonRothstein/status ... 7663541249

Big 12 Offseason Power Rankings:
1. Kansas
2. Kansas State
3. TCU
4. West Virginia
5. Texas
6. Iowa State
7. Baylor
8. Texas Tech
9. Oklahoma
10. Oklahoma State

B12 First Team
Quentin Grimes, Kansas
Lindell Wigginton, Iowa State
Dean Wade, Kansas State
Dedric Lawson, Kansas
Sagaba Konate, West Virginia

Impact B12 Transfers:
Dedric Lawson, Kansas
K.J. Lawson, Kansas
Charlie Moore, Kansas
Yuat Atok, TCU (JUCO)
Mario Kegler, Baylor
Makai Mason, Baylor
Michael Weathers, Oklahoma State
Marial Shayok, Iowa State
Tariq Owens, Texas Tech
Matt Mooney, Texas Tech

Big 12 Preseason Player of the Year:
Dedric Lawson, Kansas
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#2032792 - 08/13/18 02:31 PM Re: diminating the Big 12 [Re: tmcats]
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Registered: 12/29/06
Loc: Wichita
Originally Posted By: tmcats
https://twitter.com/JonRothstein/status ... 7663541249

Big 12 Offseason Power Rankings:
1. Kansas
2. Kansas State
3. TCU
4. West Virginia
5. Texas
6. Iowa State
7. Baylor
8. Texas Tech
9. Oklahoma
10. Oklahoma State

B12 First Team
Quentin Grimes, Kansas
Lindell Wigginton, Iowa State
Dean Wade, Kansas State
Dedric Lawson, Kansas
Sagaba Konate, West Virginia

Impact B12 Transfers:
Dedric Lawson, Kansas
K.J. Lawson, Kansas
Charlie Moore, Kansas
Yuat Atok, TCU (JUCO)
Mario Kegler, Baylor
Makai Mason, Baylor
Michael Weathers, Oklahoma State
Marial Shayok, Iowa State
Tariq Owens, Texas Tech
Matt Mooney, Texas Tech

Big 12 Preseason Player of the Year:
Dedric Lawson, Kansas


I would ignore all of that. Clearly it is wrong, since Dean Wade was not named the preseason player of the year.

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#2032793 - 08/13/18 05:43 PM Re: diminating the Big 12 [Re: oldalum]
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Originally Posted By: oldalum
I had it bookmarked so I can still get in, but there's nothing there except the name and the comment "board empty".


Lol...you suckas are kidding me right. It still exists accoreding to an ex poster. Ex poster states Vega is destroying his own creation....basically Victor Vega Frankenstein...lol.
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#2032794 - 08/14/18 04:40 PM Re: Derrick Lawson next Big 12 POY [Re: Maximus]
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Other new commers of the year candidates and possible post season 1st team candidates:

Taken Horton-Tucker

Courtney Ramey

Kampala Hepa

Having Moore

Zsuzsanna Malomhegyi
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#2032866 - 08/20/18 04:47 PM Re: Derrick Lawson next Big 12 POY [Re: Maximus]
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#2032886 - 08/21/18 04:15 PM Re: diminating the Big 12 [Re: moose1]
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More sportswriters getting it wrong. No mention of King Dean or KSU in CBS Sports preseason discussion of teams that have a chance to win it all.

"Kansas is talented, deep and old. They have to be the favorite to win it all. Dedric Lawson is going to dominate that league."

Kansas has everything you need to win a national title -- including five players who have already averaged more than 12.0 points per game at the high-major level. The best of the bunch should be Dedric Lawson. He's a 6-foot-9 transfer who averaged 19.2 points and 9.9 rebounds two seasons ago at Memphis. And multiple people close to KU's program have told me they expect him to be the Big 12 Player of the Year.

That's all well and good, but let's be realistic, Lawson is just an AAC player.
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#2032943 - 08/22/18 05:15 PM Re: diminating the Big 12 [Re: parkhawk3319]
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bill certainly putting it on for d'lawson. doesn't want dean wade throwing any shade on his private mark.
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#2032945 - 08/22/18 06:02 PM Re: diminating the Big 12 [Re: tmcats]
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No doubt Self loses sleep at night thinking about King Dean, the rest of our schedule is filled with teams of mere mortals. And of course Self controls the sportswriters and their opinions just like he controls the refs. No other explanation.
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#2032948 - 08/22/18 09:11 PM Re: Dedric Lawson next Big 12 POY [Re: Maximus]
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#2032966 - 08/23/18 02:28 PM Re: diminating the Big 12 [Re: parkhawk3319]
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coaches or media select the preseason poy? if media, bill will likely get his way, d'lawson being the best thing since french toast even well before his first serving at the table.
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#2032985 - 08/23/18 05:41 PM Re: diminating the Big 12 [Re: tmcats]
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Originally Posted By: tmcats
coaches or media select the preseason poy? if media, bill will likely get his way, d'lawson being the best thing since french toast even well before his first serving at the table.
Sour grapes?
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#2032998 - 08/24/18 11:59 AM Re: diminating the Big 12 [Re: 58hawk]
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just an observation. it will be interesting to see who gets preseason poy, for sure. and then the games, whew! for once, it would be nice if the first was in mhk rather than afh.
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#2033097 - 08/30/18 01:52 PM Re: Dedric Lawson next Big 12 POY [Re: Maximus]
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Sports Illustrated Mock Draft 2019

Derrick Lawson is at #42

Lindell Wigginton is at #25 and Quinten Crimes is at #7, Jarrett Culver at #20 . Drafted too high, IMO.

Xavier Sneed was listed at #56. Dean Wade was not listed.

Molly Constable
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#2033098 - 08/30/18 02:38 PM Re: Dedric Lawson next Big 12 POY [Re: Maximus]
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No doubt Bill Self dictated this list to the sportswriter just as he does on every article written about college basketball. The only question is what NBA teams are going to tank this season to try and win the King Dean lottery?
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#2033216 - 09/03/18 05:47 PM Re: Dedric Lawson next Big 12 POY [Re: Maximus]
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Ouch! Gotta hurt tmcats about Wade.
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#2033236 - 09/04/18 05:53 PM Re: Dedric Lawson next Big 12 POY [Re: parkhawk3319]
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Originally Posted By: parkhawk3319
No doubt Bill Self dictated this list to the sportswriter just as he does on every article written about college basketball. The only question is what NBA teams are going to tank this season to try and win the King Dean lottery?
Sports Illustrated? Who has heard of that mag, anyway. It's BOUND to be the monster dude from KSU...
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#2033529 - 09/15/18 07:25 PM Re: Dedric Lawson next Big 12 POY [Re: Maximus]
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