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#2031090 - 05/23/18 02:54 PM Derrick Lawson next Big 12 POY
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Bill Self on KU


Around 16min to 25 min mark in the podcast.

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#2031188 - 05/30/18 03:27 PM Re: Derrick Lawson next Big 12 POY [Re: Maximus]
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2018 Starting Lineup

C Udoka Azubuike
PF Silvio De Sousa
SF Dedric Lawson
SG K.J. Lawson
PG Charlie Moore

Bench

Quentin Grimes
Marcus Garrett
Lagerald Vick
Sam Cunliffe
Mitch Lightfoot
Devon Dotson
David McCormack
Ochai Agbaji

Garrett and Vick will be interesting next year. Garrett will transfer and Vick will be a 6th man, a graduate transfer, and it possible start at shooting guard, but his lack of "effort" on defense was a Self concern and his shooting ability as a shooting guard could be questioned.


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#2031189 - 05/30/18 03:32 PM Re: Derrick Lawson next Big 12 POY [Re: Maximus]
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#2031190 - 05/30/18 03:41 PM Re: Derrick Lawson next Big 12 POY [Re: Maximus]
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Cedric is #1 and KJ is #13 and changed his number to #2.

Anfernee Hardway is at the game for a reason.

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#2031191 - 05/30/18 04:01 PM Re: Derrick Lawson next Big 12 POY [Re: Maximus]
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Playing time for Sam Cunliff will be in high competition with other KU players. Sam is talented and if he doesn't start, which he has ability to do so, KU should be a top 5 press on ranked team with some thinking able to win a national title.

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#2031193 - 05/30/18 06:25 PM Re: Derrick Lawson next Big 12 POY [Re: Maximus]
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To me Agbaji is kinda the unknown factor. Could be ready to contribute right away or may be a project. I felt Cunliffe was in coach's dog house for some reason last year but is definitely talented enough to play.
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#2031196 - 05/30/18 09:50 PM Re: Derrick Lawson next Big 12 POY [Re: Maximus]
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Originally Posted By: Maximus
2018 Starting Lineup

C Udoka Azubuike
PF Silvio De Sousa
SF Dedric Lawson
SG K.J. Lawson
PG Charlie Moore

Bench

Quentin Grimes
Marcus Garrett
Lagerald Vick
Sam Cunliffe
Mitch Lightfoot
Devon Dotson
David McCormack
Ochai Agbaji

Garrett and Vick will be interesting next year. Garrett will transfer and Vick will be a 6th man, a graduate transfer, and it possible start at shooting guard, but his lack of "effort" on defense was a Self concern and his shooting ability as a shooting guard could be questioned.


I guess I missed it about Vick not hiring an agent?
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#2031197 - 05/30/18 10:29 PM Re: Derrick Lawson next Big 12 POY [Re: Maximus]
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Vick make a mistake hiring an agent? Both Lawson brother better?

Europe or D league bound possible.
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#2031244 - 06/04/18 08:21 AM Re: Derrick Lawson next Big 12 POY [Re: Maximus]
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Lightfoot a SF not a C

It's hard eating so much to gain muscle.

Self has a problem with too many 3's and 2's. Someone will transfer, Sherron Collins talent will be on the bench, and a once projected 2nd round draft pick, according to NBA Draft, might not start, and could be the 6th man off the bench, like Steve Woodberry.

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#2031304 - 06/06/18 07:34 AM Re: Derrick Lawson next Big 12 POY [Re: Maximus]
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#2031306 - 06/06/18 07:46 AM Re: Derrick Lawson next Big 12 POY [Re: Maximus]
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David McCormack is huge. David, #33, is a future lottery pick who will get better battling Silvio De Souza and Dok.

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#2031893 - 06/30/18 03:31 PM Re: Derrick Lawson next Big 12 POY [Re: Maximus]
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After digesting/discussing Vick’s return to #KUbball I think I’ll stick w/ the same starting 5 prediction. Could change. Not by any means a given that he’ll start.

PG - Dotson (Moore)
SG - Grimes (Vick)
3G - Garrett (K.J. Lawson)
PF - D. Lawson (Silvio)
C - Udoka (McCormack)


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#2031964 - 07/04/18 04:44 PM Re: Derrick Lawson next Big 12 POY [Re: Maximus]
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Vick will start. Self likes Seniors.
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#2031967 - 07/04/18 06:39 PM Re: Derrick Lawson next Big 12 POY [Re: Maximus]
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D Lawson will be the POY for sure. His brother is the wildcard. He won the Freshman of the year from the conference they came from.

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#2031985 - 07/05/18 03:47 PM Re: Derrick Lawson next Big 12 POY [Re: The_Know]
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for sure?
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#2032009 - 07/06/18 08:05 PM Re: Derrick Lawson next Big 12 POY [Re: tmcats]
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for sure?
Are you insinuating that is should be Wade?
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#2032011 - 07/07/18 09:23 AM Re: Derrick Lawson next Big 12 POY [Re: 58hawk]
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Originally Posted By: tmcats
for sure?
Are you insinuating that is should be Wade?


dean wade will undoubtedly be preseason poy, probably unanimous. if he stays healthy, he won't be losing that distinction to a transfer/underclassman. my expectation is that this will be a great race for the conference championship - the way it used to be before lon kruger left for florida - if dean stays on the floor. if not, ku will win it by 4-5 games again and someone else will be named player of the year, maybe from ISU or WVU.
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#2032016 - 07/07/18 03:40 PM Re: Derrick Lawson next Big 12 POY [Re: Maximus]
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Dedric, a 6-foot-9, 240-pound sophomore forward, averaged 19.2 points and 9.9 rebounds and blocked 68 shots while playing 34.5 minutes a game last season for the Memphis.

Dean Wade averaged 16.2 points on 55 percent shooting (198-of-360), including 44 percent (40-of-91) from 3-point range, with 6.2 rebounds, 2.7 assists, 1.5 steals and 0.8 blocks in 32.8 minutes per game… Connected on 75.2 percent (97-of-129) from the free throw line.


Lawson will play against Wade and outperform him.


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#2032017 - 07/07/18 03:47 PM Re: Derrick Lawson next Big 12 POY [Re: tmcats]
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Originally Posted By: tmcats

dean wade will undoubtedly be preseason poy, probably unanimous. if he stays healthy, he won't be losing that distinction to a transfer/underclassman.


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#2032018 - 07/07/18 04:45 PM Re: Derrick Lawson next Big 12 POY [Re: Maximus]
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lol. i'm not wrong on wade being preseason poy. i may be wrong on the conference race.

your guy's numbers in the aac are not equatable to B12 play where dean averaged 19 and 6.
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#2032085 - 07/10/18 02:40 PM Re: Derrick Lawson next Big 12 POY [Re: tmcats]
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The poor sap's Larry Bird is a less athletic version of Mitch Lightfoot with a better jump shot. He would be about the 5th man in the KU big man rotation next year behind De Sousa and McCormack....POY, ah ha ha ha ha! good one dimmy!
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#2032086 - 07/10/18 03:08 PM Re: Derrick Lawson next Big 12 POY [Re: parkhawk3319]
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I don't know who all is returning for what school next season. d. wade is first team pre season for sure. Will he be pre season poy? Maybe. Could be.

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#2032095 - 07/10/18 10:46 PM Re: Derrick Lawson next Big 12 POY [Re: Maximus]
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K-State fans with team player bias making their quick thought debated with Big 12 fans. Self will probably vote for Wiggington and not Wade.

Liddell Wiggington - Iowa State

Nation wide opinion has Wiggington ranked and Wade not by Andy Katz.

https://www.ncaa.com/news/basketball-men...sketball-season


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#2032138 - 07/11/18 07:47 PM Re: Derrick Lawson next Big 12 POY [Re: Maximus]
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Too bad the list wasn't longer, Wade is probably #21.

First round draft pick definitely; lottery pick maybe by end of season. When we see who declares for the draft at the end of the season he might move up to first big off the bench for us.
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#2032162 - 07/12/18 09:58 AM Re: Derrick Lawson next Big 12 POY [Re: parkhawk3319]
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Originally Posted By: parkhawk3319
Too bad the list wasn't longer, Wade is probably #21.

First round draft pick definitely; lottery pick maybe by end of season. When we see who declares for the draft at the end of the season he might move up to first big off the bench for us.


A Kansas State basketball joke.

Parkhawk, be nice to Tomcat. K-State's football program is headed on the decline.
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#2032164 - 07/12/18 10:03 AM Re: Derrick Lawson next Big 12 POY [Re: tmcats]
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Originally Posted By: tmcats
lol. i'm not wrong on wade being preseason poy. i may be wrong on the conference race.

your guy's numbers in the aac are not equatable to B12 play where dean averaged 19 and 6.


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#2032183 - 07/12/18 07:50 PM Re: Derrick Lawson next Big 12 POY [Re: Maximus]
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Wyd is that purp idiot rambling about.
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#2032188 - 07/12/18 09:56 PM Re: Derrick Lawson next Big 12 POY [Re: PHOGUSHER]
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#2032189 - 07/12/18 10:06 PM Re: Derrick Lawson next Big 12 POY [Re: parkhawk3319]
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#2032192 - 07/13/18 07:36 AM Re: Derrick Lawson next Big 12 POY [Re: parkhawk3319]
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Look like a great game to watch. KJ Lawson stats is nice to read. Likely to do the same at KU.

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#2032193 - 07/13/18 07:40 AM Re: Derrick Lawson next Big 12 POY [Re: parkhawk3319]
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Future NBA Lottery pick? More than likely.

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#2032195 - 07/13/18 08:49 AM Re: Derrick Lawson next Big 12 POY [Re: Maximus]
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Perry Ellis, a SR put up 10 pts and 7 rebs against Spangler and Lattin that year. A freshman putting up 22 pts and 15 rebs are pretty decent numbers for just an AAC player. But we will see how he does when he goes up against the legend and possible National POY Dean Wade. I am sure watching from the bench last year Lawson just an AAC player got a feel for how intimidating the Octagon of Gloom is and how dominating Wade can be when being guarded most of the game by a player half just an AAC players size. Just an AAC player can't be relishing the thought of having to prove himself against Big 12 caliber athletes. I hope just an AAC player doesn't piss himself on the court during the game, that would be humiliating.
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#2032250 - Yesterday at 12:40 PM Re: Derrick Lawson next Big 12 POY [Re: Maximus]
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Situational variation between players may be the overriding factor that ultimately determines POY.
Wade will undoubtedly get more gametime opportunities due to the fact that, if healthy, he will be the Cat's goto guy.
Lawson is in a position of being part of an extremely well stacked roster of talent that includes his position.He'll have to share the ball more and will less often be targeted per possession.'As far as talent and future potential are concerned I don't feel we have a contest to discuss. If Lawson shines in practice the way Self says he does, I'll go with that.
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#2032262 - Yesterday at 03:09 PM just an AAC player [Re: appyhawk]
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I think we have to go with the facts and history here. Dedric “just an AAC player” Lawson has no business being in the conversation with a kid like King Dean. Wade grew up battling and proving himself on the legendary playgrounds of the mean streets of St. John’s, KS. We all know how many McDonald’s AA, D1 and NBA stars started their careers there. And now King Dean is the go-to guy for one of college basketball’s true bluebloods, KSU. King Dean and head coach The Razzle Dazzle Undertaker are returning KSU to the almost half decade of dominance they enjoyed when Lon Kruger consistently had them finishing in 3rd or 4th place in the Big 8, this is a team of destiny! In the meantime, “just an AAC player” played some ball in Memphis, known mostly for BBQ I think. And he had a couple of decent seasons on a mediocre AAC team, a conference whose best team has been UConn, seriously does anyone play basketball in Connecticut? Let’s not kid ourselves, King Dean is the real deal and “just an AAC player” can only hope to try and stay with him when they compete head to head. Hopefully “just an AAC player” can get lots of help and doesn’t get too intimidated; help defense is the only way to contain the double double monster that is King Dean. “Just an AAC player” has never seen up close the kind of athleticism he is about to encounter. Don’t be surprised if “just an AAC player” gets less than half his scoring average if King Dean decides to make a defensive statement at the expense of “just an AAC player”. This season is going to be the King Dean show.
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#2032268 - Yesterday at 09:05 PM Re: just an AAC player [Re: parkhawk3319]
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your sloppy attempt at sarcasm was enlightening only for how poor the attempt. the games between these schools this coming season should be excellent, perhaps epic if state can pull it off behind a small-town kansas youngster and end the conference's embarrassing ku winning streak. wade will be preseason poy. we'll have to see if he carries it to the end.
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#2032271 - Yesterday at 10:00 PM Re: just an AAC player [Re: tmcats]
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your sloppy attempt at sarcasm was enlightening only for how poor the attempt. the games between these schools this coming season should be excellent, perhaps epic if state can pull it off behind a small-town kansas youngster and end the conference's embarrassing ku winning streak. wade will be preseason poy. we'll have to see if he carries it to the end.
What's embarrassing about a win streak? Because your team didn't do it?
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#2032275 - 31 minutes 52 seconds ago Re: just an AAC player [Re: tmcats]
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The closest conference race in a decade and a half of dominance as King Dean runs roughshod through the conference, becomes lottery pick and NBA rookie of the year. Razzle Dazzle Undertaker ends up as National COY. Or as you said, maybe the Cats just return to the mediocrity of the Lon Kruger years.

dimmy; maybe it will help your digestion if I splain that it is parody?
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