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#2030975 - 05/21/18 10:40 AM Why not fire Beaty now?
KUHawkhead Offline
Wilt Chamberlain

Registered: 09/01/02
Loc: Mc to the Pherson
This team wasn't going to win any games anyway.....call Mangino, get this program up and running again.

RCJHKU!
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#2030976 - 05/21/18 10:44 AM Re: Why not fire Beaty now? [Re: KUHawkhead]
dgless21 Offline
Local Deity

Registered: 03/27/05
Loc: 23rd Street Brewery
1) $3M buyout
2) Mangino not interested in returning as HC
3) Nothing to gain from it as you don't have the AD to make the hire yet.
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#2030983 - 05/21/18 11:01 AM Re: Why not fire Beaty now? [Re: KUHawkhead]
bigdogjac Offline
Wilt Chamberlain

Registered: 05/11/10
Loc: Oklahoma
HCDB will get one more chance unless big money said get rid of DB and Zenger wouldn't. Then big money might have new interim AD do the deed. But my gut says he will get one more chance.
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#2030984 - 05/21/18 11:05 AM Re: Why not fire Beaty now? [Re: KUHawkhead]
58hawk Offline
Wilt Chamberlain

Registered: 12/16/09
Loc: KCMO
In the meantime, fire Beaty and promote Meacham.
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#2030990 - 05/21/18 11:42 AM Re: Why not fire Beaty now? [Re: dgless21]
KUHawkhead Offline
Wilt Chamberlain

Registered: 09/01/02
Loc: Mc to the Pherson
He's going to get the buyout NO MATTER WHAT. Cut bait, and find someone NOW. Mangino would return, per twitter chats I have had with him.

RCJHKU!
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It's MISSOURI. We don't lose to them at home-Bill Self-2/25/2012

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#2030996 - 05/21/18 11:57 AM Re: Why not fire Beaty now? [Re: KUHawkhead]
dgless21 Offline
Local Deity

Registered: 03/27/05
Loc: 23rd Street Brewery
If you're saying this season is a loss regardless, you have to at least consider letting him finish the year and saving the $1M by keeping him until Jan 1.
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#2030999 - 05/21/18 12:15 PM Re: Why not fire Beaty now? [Re: KUHawkhead]
KUCO_VOC Offline
KU1980

Registered: 05/22/08
Loc: Denver, CO
If KU waits until Jan 1 or later, I would be surprised. His first three year resume speaks volumes of his HC qualifications.
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#2031000 - 05/21/18 12:16 PM Re: Why not fire Beaty now? [Re: KUHawkhead]
casey Offline
hello

Registered: 04/06/08
Loc: elsewhere
If you fire Beaty now all the juco kids will jump ship, and you're staring down the barrel of 0-12.

Beaty is likely to go 4-8 this season, which probably buys him a fifth season under Zenger. A new AD will have an excuse to fire him despite improvement.

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#2031003 - 05/21/18 12:52 PM Re: Why not fire Beaty now? [Re: KUHawkhead]
MICHHAWK Offline
Wilt Chamberlain

Registered: 08/29/02
Loc: Port Huron MI
I wonder two things:

1. including what we paid MM to leave, I wonder what we have spent on football coaches since the day we fired MM.

2. I wonder what our win/loss record is since we fired MM.

I suspect I will throw up when I get my answer.

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#2031004 - 05/21/18 01:16 PM Re: Why not fire Beaty now? [Re: casey]
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KU1980

Registered: 05/22/08
Loc: Denver, CO
Originally Posted By: casey
If you fire Beaty now all the juco kids will jump ship, and you're staring down the barrel of 0-12.

Beaty is likely to go 4-8 this season, which probably buys him a fifth season under Zenger. A new AD will have an excuse to fire him despite improvement.
AD got fired today - no progress seen in football program. What you are saying is that the juco signup program is worth four wins in 2018? WOW Your statement trumps the earlier post (not by you) stating our defense could be ranked either 1 or 2 in the big 12 by end of the year!!
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#2031007 - 05/21/18 01:25 PM Re: Why not fire Beaty now? [Re: KUHawkhead]
vmlb Offline
Wilt Chamberlain

Registered: 11/25/06
I'm so happy none of you MM fans will hire the next FB coach.

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#2031008 - 05/21/18 02:30 PM Re: Why not fire Beaty now? [Re: KUHawkhead]
KUHawkhead Offline
Wilt Chamberlain

Registered: 09/01/02
Loc: Mc to the Pherson
The 0-12 season is practically guaranteed anyway...to quote our other great hire, have you seen that pile of crap out there?

RCJHKU!
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#2031026 - 05/21/18 05:15 PM Re: Why not fire Beaty now? [Re: vmlb]
58hawk Offline
Wilt Chamberlain

Registered: 12/16/09
Loc: KCMO
Originally Posted By: vmlb
I'm so happy none of you MM fans will hire the next FB coach.
Bringing Mangino back is not the answer. Just remember his failure the last year he was there.
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#2031033 - 05/21/18 07:24 PM Re: Why not fire Beaty now? [Re: 58hawk]
JimWest Offline
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Registered: 11/29/12
Originally Posted By: 58hawk
Originally Posted By: vmlb
I'm so happy none of you MM fans will hire the next FB coach.
Bringing Mangino back is not the answer. Just remember his failure the last year he was there.


5-7 is better than every season since. We'd all be happy with 5-7.
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#2031034 - 05/21/18 07:29 PM Re: Why not fire Beaty now? [Re: casey]
moose1 Offline
Max Falkenstien

Registered: 12/29/06
Loc: Wichita
Originally Posted By: casey
If you fire Beaty now all the juco kids will jump ship, and you're staring down the barrel of 0-12.

Beaty is likely to go 4-8 this season, which probably buys him a fifth season under Zenger. A new AD will have an excuse to fire him despite improvement.


First of all I don't see Beaty getting fired until at least game 4 this year.

That said if they did fire him the JUCOs are not going anywhere.

I think that is a fair assessment. 4-8 probably keeps Beaty around under Zenger. Anything less than bowling gets Beaty canned under the new AD.

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#2031035 - 05/21/18 07:32 PM Re: Why not fire Beaty now? [Re: bigdogjac]
moose1 Offline
Max Falkenstien

Registered: 12/29/06
Loc: Wichita
Originally Posted By: bigdogjac
HCDB will get one more chance unless big money said get rid of DB and Zenger wouldn't. Then big money might have new interim AD do the deed. But my gut says he will get one more chance.


Probably but the bar just got a lot higher for him being retained. I think anything less than bowling gets Beaty fired.

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#2031039 - 05/21/18 08:21 PM Re: Why not fire Beaty now? [Re: KUHawkhead]
bigdogjac Offline
Wilt Chamberlain

Registered: 05/11/10
Loc: Oklahoma
As in all business's there comes a time for the younger leaders to push out the old washed up ones. Mangino and all his fans need to set back and enjoy his permanent retirement.
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#2031047 - 05/21/18 09:49 PM Re: Why not fire Beaty now? [Re: JimWest]
58hawk Offline
Wilt Chamberlain

Registered: 12/16/09
Loc: KCMO
Originally Posted By: JimWest
Originally Posted By: 58hawk
Originally Posted By: vmlb
I'm so happy none of you MM fans will hire the next FB coach.
Bringing Mangino back is not the answer. Just remember his failure the last year he was there.


5-7 is better than every season since. We'd all be happy with 5-7.
You would. Most wouldn't.
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#2031053 - 05/21/18 11:42 PM Re: Why not fire Beaty now? [Re: 58hawk]
JimWest Offline
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Registered: 11/29/12
Originally Posted By: 58hawk
Originally Posted By: JimWest
Originally Posted By: 58hawk
Originally Posted By: vmlb
I'm so happy none of you MM fans will hire the next FB coach.
Bringing Mangino back is not the answer. Just remember his failure the last year he was there.


5-7 is better than every season since. We'd all be happy with 5-7.
You would. Most wouldn't.


This, coming from the moron who consistently advocated for trusting Zenger and Beaty. You'd rather go 1-11 than 5-7 just because your rural brain can't handle the fact that Zenger, no matter how great his farm ties are, is completely incompetent.
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I'm the quickest they is
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#2031058 - 05/22/18 08:27 AM Re: Why not fire Beaty now? [Re: KUHawkhead]
Topcitykid10 Offline
Big Dipper

Registered: 04/14/09
Loc: Kansas
Beaty has a 3 million dollar buyout?!?!?
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#2031059 - 05/22/18 08:38 AM Re: Why not fire Beaty now? [Re: Topcitykid10]
dgless21 Offline
Local Deity

Registered: 03/27/05
Loc: 23rd Street Brewery
Originally Posted By: Topcitykid10
Beaty has a 3 million dollar buyout?!?!?


He gets 3M this year if fired before Jan 1 (2M after).

Bowen and Meach would each get 1M if fired before Jan 1 (500k after).
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#2031060 - 05/22/18 08:47 AM Re: Why not fire Beaty now? [Re: KUHawkhead]
KUHawkhead Offline
Wilt Chamberlain

Registered: 09/01/02
Loc: Mc to the Pherson
Is there anything (other than our current government) more mismanaged than KU football? Asking for a friend.

RCJHKU!
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It's MISSOURI. We don't lose to them at home-Bill Self-2/25/2012

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#2031064 - 05/22/18 09:27 AM Re: Why not fire Beaty now? [Re: JimWest]
58hawk Offline
Wilt Chamberlain

Registered: 12/16/09
Loc: KCMO
5-7 is better than every season since. We'd all be happy with 5-7.[/quote] You would. Most wouldn't. [/quote]

This, coming from the moron who consistently advocated for trusting Zenger and Beaty. You'd rather go 1-11 than 5-7 just because your rural brain can't handle the fact that Zenger, no matter how great his farm ties are, is completely incompetent.[/quote] I never said I wanted to go 1-11 genius. I also don't want to go 5-7 and not go to a bowl.
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#2031067 - 05/22/18 11:13 AM Re: Why not fire Beaty now? [Re: KUHawkhead]
JimWest Offline
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Registered: 11/29/12
Whatever. I'll take near .500 records any day at KU. Mangino had us in bowl games half the time. In fact, he's the only coach to ever go to back-to-back bowl games at KU. Expecting more than that at KU is unrealistic at this point since that is the best ever.
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I'm the slickest they is
I'm the quickest they is
Did I say I'm the slickest they is?

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#2031068 - 05/22/18 11:19 AM Re: Why not fire Beaty now? [Re: KUHawkhead]
dgless21 Offline
Local Deity

Registered: 03/27/05
Loc: 23rd Street Brewery
Mason would've had back to back bowls if there were the 37 bowl games there are now...he had a couple times where he won 6+ in consecutive years.

But I agree with the desire to be much nearer to .500 records year to year.
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#2031072 - 05/22/18 02:20 PM Re: Why not fire Beaty now? [Re: KUHawkhead]
Jman1 Offline
Max Falkenstien

Registered: 12/12/03
I say bring back Mason for an encore presentation. He might be a little long in the tooth now, but I'm sure that tough a$$ old bastard can still coach like H3LL. He may have had some issues in the day but those are long forgotten and besides desperate times call for desperate measures.

GUARANTEED he would get that offensive offensive line situation straightened out.

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#2031074 - 05/22/18 06:00 PM Re: Why not fire Beaty now? [Re: JimWest]
58hawk Offline
Wilt Chamberlain

Registered: 12/16/09
Loc: KCMO
Originally Posted By: JimWest
Whatever. I'll take near .500 records any day at KU. Mangino had us in bowl games half the time. In fact, he's the only coach to ever go to back-to-back bowl games at KU. Expecting more than that at KU is unrealistic at this point since that is the best ever.
If they can have winning football at a basketball school like Duke, then we can have it here.
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