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#2029512 - 03/31/18 10:55 PM Worst Final 4 in schools history?
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Max Falkenstien

Registered: 03/28/14
Loc: Nebraska
In my lifetime we have been to 9 Final 4's. Winning 2 titles and playing in the title games 4 other times. Was this loss to Nova our most stinging loss of them all?

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#2029513 - 03/31/18 11:04 PM Re: Worst Final 4 in schools history? [Re: Jaycat92]
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gale sayers

Registered: 01/18/06
Loc: Topeka,Kansas
Originally Posted By: Jaycat92
In my lifetime we have been to 9 Final 4's. Winning 2 titles and playing in the title games 4 other times. Was this loss to Nova our most stinging loss of them all?


Not for me. The fact nova shot the ball so well from 3..in a record setting fashion... and they got up 22-4 early took a lot of the sting out. We got beat by a superior team. It hurts a lot more when you get beat by a team you feel like you should have beaten. I never felt that way tonight.

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#2029514 - 03/31/18 11:06 PM Re: Worst Final 4 in schools history? [Re: track]
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Max Falkenstien

Registered: 03/28/14
Loc: Nebraska
Originally Posted By: track
Originally Posted By: Jaycat92
In my lifetime we have been to 9 Final 4's. Winning 2 titles and playing in the title games 4 other times. Was this loss to Nova our most stinging loss of them all?


Not for me. The fact nova shot the ball so well from 3..in a record setting fashion... and they got up 22-4 early took a lot of the sting out. We got beat by a superior team. It hurts a lot more when you get beat by a team you feel like you should have beaten. I never felt that way tonight.


I suppose your right. I don't like to see this program get embarrased on this big of stage. I hope this motivates the remaining players to kick some tail next season even more.

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#2029515 - 03/31/18 11:13 PM Re: Worst Final 4 in schools history? [Re: Jaycat92]
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Registered: 11/01/05
Loc: Western Kansas Hinderlands
Ahh no...KU will probably go 33-2 and get beat by UNI or Butler in the 2nd round...thats Self. He wont win another title at KU...unless its vs UNC in the championship game...
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#2029516 - 03/31/18 11:23 PM Re: Worst Final 4 in schools history? [Re: Jaycat92]
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gale sayers

Registered: 01/18/06
Loc: Topeka,Kansas
Originally Posted By: Jaycat92
Originally Posted By: track
Originally Posted By: Jaycat92
In my lifetime we have been to 9 Final 4's. Winning 2 titles and playing in the title games 4 other times. Was this loss to Nova our most stinging loss of them all?


Not for me. The fact nova shot the ball so well from 3..in a record setting fashion... and they got up 22-4 early took a lot of the sting out. We got beat by a superior team. It hurts a lot more when you get beat by a team you feel like you should have beaten. I never felt that way tonight.


I suppose your right. I don't like to see this program get embarrased on this big of stage. I hope this motivates the remaining players to kick some tail next season even more.

I think this team exceeded expectations. Who thought this team was final four material half way through the season. Not me. One of Bill Self's better coaching jobs to make it this far with so little talent/depth compared to some of our past teams.

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#2029517 - 03/31/18 11:24 PM Re: Worst Final 4 in schools history? [Re: PHOGUSHER]
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gale sayers

Registered: 01/18/06
Loc: Topeka,Kansas
Originally Posted By: PHOGUSHER
Ahh no...KU will probably go 33-2 and get beat by UNI or Butler in the 2nd round...thats Self. He wont win another title at KU...unless its vs UNC in the championship game...

Compared to our football team and coaching staff the basketball program is practically NBA ready.

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#2029518 - 03/31/18 11:29 PM Re: Worst Final 4 in schools history? [Re: Jaycat92]
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Original AFH Gangsta

Registered: 11/01/05
Loc: Western Kansas Hinderlands
Oh thats the cop out??? Comparing them to our football tean. If Saben failed in big games like Self Bama would have fired him long ago....Just think about that...
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#2029534 - 04/01/18 09:25 AM Re: Worst Final 4 in schools history? [Re: track]
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Wilt Chamberlain

Registered: 05/17/04
Loc: Flint Hills
Originally Posted By: track
Originally Posted By: Jaycat92
Originally Posted By: track
Originally Posted By: Jaycat92
In my lifetime we have been to 9 Final 4's. Winning 2 titles and playing in the title games 4 other times. Was this loss to Nova our most stinging loss of them all?


Not for me. The fact nova shot the ball so well from 3..in a record setting fashion... and they got up 22-4 early took a lot of the sting out. We got beat by a superior team. It hurts a lot more when you get beat by a team you feel like you should have beaten. I never felt that way tonight.


I suppose your right. I don't like to see this program get embarrased on this big of stage. I hope this motivates the remaining players to kick some tail next season even more.

I think this team exceeded expectations. Who thought this team was final four material half way through the season. Not me. One of Bill Self's better coaching jobs to make it this far with so little talent/depth compared to some of our past teams.


I agree with each of these posters. What happened last night was an anomaly for both teams. It's like we were paddling around the pool below a dam when the dam broke. The only choice is to go with the flow. Fortunately for us, regardless who leaves to go pro, our roster next year will IMO be one of the deepest and most talented we have ever seen wearing KU uniforms.
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#2029538 - 04/01/18 10:45 AM Re: Worst Final 4 in schools history? [Re: appyhawk]
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gale sayers

Registered: 01/18/06
Loc: Topeka,Kansas
True......but I sure would like to see another year of Newman...he was just blossoming toward the end of the season. I would love to see a whole year of that..

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#2029539 - 04/01/18 11:06 AM Re: Worst Final 4 in schools history? [Re: Jaycat92]
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Original AFH Gangsta

Registered: 11/01/05
Loc: Western Kansas Hinderlands
Did I missed where he declared for the NBA..oh wait dang ...Dok..Newman..and Vick all declared via Twitter this morning....





































April's Fool suckas.. ..maybe.
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#2029540 - 04/01/18 12:03 PM Re: Worst Final 4 in schools history? [Re: track]
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Wilt Chamberlain

Registered: 05/17/04
Loc: Flint Hills
Originally Posted By: track
True......but I sure would like to see another year of Newman...he was just blossoming toward the end of the season. I would love to see a whole year of that..


"Need" can be defined in numerous ways, depending on perspective. My perspective tells me that none of the three prime suspects, Dok, Vick, and Malik are currently positioned to maximize their draft potential. Of those three Malik's situation is the most perplexing. I could see that one going both ways. If he stays he is in prime position to be our primary leader next year, with accompanying opportunity for national accolades to enhance his draft status to a much higher level than will be the case this year. If he declares I am confident he will get drafted, but relegated to a repeat of his collegiate resume in that he will essentially be redshirted and have to earn his way up the pro ladder over a period of time while earning nba minimum scale.
Dok is not close to ready for NBA competition. Not physically nor in skill set. IMO he needs 2 more years. When he is 20 he'll be as ready as he can be.
Not convinced Vick has the physicality to ever excel at nba level. He should concentrate on getting a good degree under scholarship before, not after, he jumps into the pool seeking nba riches.
Having said all that, the way mindsets tend to run these days I'm not convinced any one of those 3 will stay at KU another year.
Scholarships...if I understand it correctly KU is currently out. If any of the above 3 players stay we are over limit, while still hoping to woo Romeo Langford. Very interesting situation.
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#2029541 - 04/01/18 12:27 PM Re: Worst Final 4 in schools history? [Re: Jaycat92]
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Original AFH Gangsta

Registered: 11/01/05
Loc: Western Kansas Hinderlands
None of the 3 are currently sniffing the NBA mock drafts.
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#2029542 - 04/01/18 01:33 PM Re: Worst Final 4 in schools history? [Re: PHOGUSHER]
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Wilt Chamberlain

Registered: 09/08/02
Loc: reservation lake, mn
nova's point guard is just amazing, a pro playing college ball. and he's surrounded with a boatload of talent coached by a future hof.

graham will be missed. kid is a leader extraordinaire.
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#2029543 - 04/01/18 01:36 PM Re: Worst Final 4 in schools history? [Re: Jaycat92]
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Registered: 11/01/05
Loc: Western Kansas Hinderlands
Lol...go away..
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#2029545 - 04/01/18 02:31 PM Re: Worst Final 4 in schools history? [Re: Jaycat92]
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Wilt Chamberlain

Registered: 10/02/13
I agree with everyone about the exceeded expectations. In January I didn't think there was any way this team would even win the conference, let alone go to the Final 4.

This team gave us something we will always remember - the record #14. They were under-manned and fought hard and got it done.
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#2029546 - 04/01/18 03:01 PM Re: Worst Final 4 in schools history? [Re: Jaycat92]
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Max Falkenstien

Registered: 03/28/14
Loc: Nebraska
I would like to see Self and KU make more Final 4's when we are suppose to make them. 2010, 2011, 2013, 2016, 2017 were all great teams that fell short, and were all teams that had National title talent. 2008 was a year when we were suppose to contend and did. 2012 and 2018 were great stories, and great down the stretch teams with two really good players on each team.

Not being unrealistic, know that we won't make a FInal 4 every season, but more often would be better or at least when we are favored to make one.

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#2029563 - 04/02/18 02:15 PM Re: Worst Final 4 in schools history? [Re: track]
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Junior Jayhawk

Registered: 03/02/05
Loc: Jackson Hole, Wy
Actually after being down 22-4 against a record setting barrage for the first 11-12 minutes, I was proud of our determination to stay in it for the next 28 minutes. That was an incredible punch to absorb and still be able to fight at a draw. We were down 12 for 2 straight possessions & could not make a shot. That was doom.
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#2029564 - 04/02/18 02:34 PM Re: Worst Final 4 in schools history? [Re: Tetonhawk]
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Wilt Chamberlain

Registered: 08/29/02
Loc: Port Huron MI
We didn't know as much at the time, but we were effectively out of it at the first television timeout. Being down by so much so fast, sort of took the pressure off.

I will never poo-poo a FF appearance. Win. Lose. They are all wonderful.

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#2029566 - 04/02/18 02:57 PM Re: Worst Final 4 in schools history? [Re: Jaycat92]
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Wilt Chamberlain

Registered: 12/16/09
Loc: KCMO
The Duke win was memorable and shouldn't forget that game. Remember this team was 8-4 in the conference at one time. And we should be glad they we weren't the first 1 seed to lose to a 16. Down 10 against Penn we could have been toast.
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#2029569 - 04/02/18 04:01 PM Re: Worst Final 4 in schools history? [Re: Jaycat92]
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Max Falkenstien

Registered: 03/28/14
Loc: Nebraska
Because of the blow out status, I would consider this one of our worst Final 4 appearances.

Because of the type of team we had this season, I would also consider this team one of my favorites.

Based on recruited talent, we had no business beating Duke, but experience and heart won out. Anytime we can beat Duke, its been a great run.

Nova and its style of play has always given us fits. I don't remember when, but we went there on a Saturday a few years ago and they blew us out much like Saturday. With saying that, there style only works if they are shooting lights out from deep.

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#2029578 - 04/02/18 05:56 PM Re: Worst Final 4 in schools history? [Re: Jaycat92]
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KU1980

Registered: 05/22/08
Loc: Denver, CO
Originally Posted By: Jaycat92
Because of the blow out status, I would consider this one of our worst Final 4 appearances.

Because of the type of team we had this season, I would also consider this team one of my favorites.

Based on recruited talent, we had no business beating Duke, but experience and heart won out. Anytime we can beat Duke, its been a great run.

Nova and its style of play has always given us fits. I don't remember when, but we went there on a Saturday a few years ago and they blew us out much like Saturday. With saying that, there style only works if they are shooting lights out from deep.
You are a total troll on KU website so sure it’s worst ever. But we played good against a lights out opponent. But you need to quit posting here you you troll
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#2029579 - 04/02/18 06:14 PM Re: Worst Final 4 in schools history? [Re: KUCO_VOC]
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Max Falkenstien

Registered: 03/28/14
Loc: Nebraska
Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
Originally Posted By: Jaycat92
Because of the blow out status, I would consider this one of our worst Final 4 appearances.

Because of the type of team we had this season, I would also consider this team one of my favorites.

Based on recruited talent, we had no business beating Duke, but experience and heart won out. Anytime we can beat Duke, its been a great run.

Nova and its style of play has always given us fits. I don't remember when, but we went there on a Saturday a few years ago and they blew us out much like Saturday. With saying that, there style only works if they are shooting lights out from deep.
You are a total troll on KU website so sure it’s worst ever. But we played good against a lights out opponent. But you need to quit posting here you you troll


Where have you been.........real fans post even when the team loses. Join the conversation or pinpoint your inner KU frustrations at me, its all good!!!

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#2029581 - 04/02/18 06:21 PM Re: Worst Final 4 in schools history? [Re: Jaycat92]
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Original AFH Gangsta

Registered: 11/01/05
Loc: Western Kansas Hinderlands
Yes jay...most limp wristed crimson and blue kool ade suckers thinks all fans that don't kiss assss are trolls...screw that crap...if Bill and his boys need to be called out...then call him and them out...He and them could have done better vs Nova. Trap after down by 10....run run run....he tried to revert back to half court high slow...disaster formula when down double digits. Maybe the hayseeds will figure this out about Self one day...but most likely not.
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