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#2028091 - 02/20/18 01:34 PM Re: Baldwin's Status? [Re: pizzanbeer]
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Just curious if the first post was true?
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#2028093 - 02/20/18 02:15 PM Re: Baldwin's Status? [Re: Topcitykid10]
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Originally Posted By: Topcitykid10
Just curious if the first post was true?
He's still in the program and enrolled on track to graduate in May from what I hear. Also hear there's a very small chance of him ever playing a down for KU for various reasons.
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#2028100 - 02/20/18 05:28 PM Re: Baldwin's Status? [Re: Kman_blue]
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Registered: 09/01/02
Loc: Topeka, Kansas
Originally Posted By: Kman_blue
Originally Posted By: Topcitykid10
Just curious if the first post was true?
He's still in the program and enrolled on track to graduate in May from what I hear. Also hear there's a very small chance of him ever playing a down for KU for various reasons.


That's too bad.......kid comes to the worst football team in Big XII history and can't even get a "Rudy" moment. frown confused

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#2028102 - 02/20/18 06:14 PM Re: Baldwin's Status? [Re: pizzanbeer]
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It's not like we didn't recognize he was a gamble when he was dismissed from Bama.

I figured he'd get on the field, but I'm not super shocked that a kid that got dismissed from Bama isn't doing the work to get himself on the field.
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#2028103 - 02/20/18 06:37 PM Re: Baldwin's Status? [Re: dgless21]
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I hope we are done taking players that get kicked out of other schools. After we fire Zenger then the new AD should make that a policy. Laquivionte Gonzalez and Charles Baldwin were a waste of time and money.

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#2028118 - 02/21/18 10:00 AM Re: Baldwin's Status? [Re: pizzanbeer]
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Registered: 05/22/08
Loc: Denver, CO
Originally Posted By: pizzanbeer
I hope we are done taking players that get kicked out of other schools. After we fire Zenger then the new AD should make that a policy. Laquivionte Gonzalez and Charles Baldwin were a waste of time and money.
Kansas has only a limited amount of resources, and so we waste it on staff raises and contract extensions while no win season over season is occurring. Show both Beaty and Bowen the door out of town. I don't care HOW much they love Lawrence. They can't do the job of turnaround specialists.
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#2028144 - 02/21/18 03:08 PM Re: Baldwin's Status? [Re: pizzanbeer]
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Registered: 03/27/05
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Originally Posted By: pizzanbeer
I hope we are done taking players that get kicked out of other schools. After we fire Zenger then the new AD should make that a policy. Laquivionte Gonzalez and Charles Baldwin were a waste of time and money.


To me, it would be the same as any HS or JUCO recruit. Is the talent worth taking the risk? If yes, then go for it.

I have also never heard that Quiv got dismissed from Texas A&M.
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#2028148 - 02/21/18 03:53 PM Re: Baldwin's Status? [Re: dgless21]
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Originally Posted By: dgless21
I have also never heard that Quiv got dismissed from Texas A&M.
Cause he didn't.
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#2028149 - 02/21/18 04:14 PM Re: Baldwin's Status? [Re: Kman_blue]
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KU1980

Registered: 05/22/08
Loc: Denver, CO
Originally Posted By: Kman_blue
Originally Posted By: dgless21
I have also never heard that Quiv got dismissed from Texas A&M.
Cause he didn't.
Pizza never said he did get dismissed from Texas A&M. But intent is the same that under Beaty we are wasting resources that can’t possibly create a turnaround here.

Quiv was a one year player (2016) with hands of stone on ST.
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#2028150 - 02/21/18 04:19 PM Re: Baldwin's Status? [Re: dgless21]
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Registered: 05/22/08
Loc: Denver, CO
Originally Posted By: dgless21
Originally Posted By: pizzanbeer
I hope we are done taking players that get kicked out of other schools. After we fire Zenger then the new AD should make that a policy. Laquivionte Gonzalez and Charles Baldwin were a waste of time and money.


To me, it would be the same as any HS or JUCO recruit. Is the talent worth taking the risk? If yes, then go for it.

I have also never heard that Quiv got dismissed from Texas A&M.
Nope HS players give us 4 years to teach them BG12. “Castoffs” are too risky.
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#2028151 - 02/21/18 04:26 PM Re: Baldwin's Status? [Re: Kman_blue]
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Originally Posted By: Kman_blue
Originally Posted By: dgless21
I have also never heard that Quiv got dismissed from Texas A&M.
Cause he didn't.


I understand, so by the "rule" pizzanbeer suggested for our new hypothetical AD, Quiv could still end up at KU and be a "waste of time and money"...This despite him having a better year receiving than ANY Weis or Gill receiver...

So I guess I'm curious. We've had plenty of HS and JUCO receivers come in and not pan out or also get dismissed. What makes them a better use of resources than a transfer?
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#2028153 - 02/21/18 04:36 PM Re: Baldwin's Status? [Re: dgless21]
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Registered: 05/22/08
Loc: Denver, CO
Originally Posted By: dgless21
Originally Posted By: Kman_blue
Originally Posted By: dgless21
I have also never heard that Quiv got dismissed from Texas A&M.
Cause he didn't.


I understand, so by the "rule" pizzanbeer suggested for our new hypothetical AD, Quiv could still end up at KU and be a "waste of time and money"...This despite him having a better year receiving than ANY Weis or Gill receiver...
Yes by the new rule 50% better. Is anything ever 100% better?

You can address me directly if you like

It is pompous of you to avoid my posts. But maybe your feelings are hurt over something.
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#2028158 - 02/21/18 05:32 PM Re: Baldwin's Status? [Re: pizzanbeer]
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Registered: 03/27/05
Loc: 23rd Street Brewery
Until the season or spring ball starts, we're still at a wait and see with Baldwin. Considering how sure many people believed that he'd play last year, I'm not sure why those similar sources are to be believed when they say he's not playing.

Also, if you hire the "right coach," you don't force things down his throat. (See: Bill Self, Bechard, etc) If you think you need to force recruiting rules on a head coach, you've probably hired the wrong guy and should hire a better one.

Next to nothing has worked for KU football regardless of coach in the last 8 years. If you start adding rules for any item that failed and wasted time and money, you're basically at scrapping the entire football program.
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#2028159 - 02/21/18 07:58 PM Re: Baldwin's Status? [Re: pizzanbeer]
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Registered: 05/22/08
Loc: Denver, CO
8 years regardless of coach is CW & sonny boy DB. Your reasoning is rather weak.

Don’t have to reply to me. Keep it up
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#2028166 - 02/22/18 12:53 AM Re: Baldwin's Status? [Re: dgless21]
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Registered: 08/31/08
Loc: Kansas
Originally Posted By: dgless21
I understand, so by the "rule" pizzanbeer suggested for our new hypothetical AD, Quiv could still end up at KU and be a "waste of time and money"...This despite him having a better year receiving than ANY Weis or Gill receiver...

So I guess I'm curious. We've had plenty of HS and JUCO receivers come in and not pan out or also get dismissed. What makes them a better use of resources than a transfer?
I guess I glossed over Pizzanbeer's post with the suggested rule for recruiting. I was merely helping to clarify what happened with him.

As for Quiv, I think he produced while at KU and was 1 of our best WR's despite his horrible mishaps in kick return. He was worth it IMHO, but I wished he had used better judgement last year and not gotten kicked off the team as we could have used him.
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