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#2027890 - 02/16/18 04:24 PM West Virginia vs Kansas
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KU to win. No points, no over /under cover.

Esa Ahmad over 19 points

Jevon Carter under 15 points

Silvio De Sousa over 4 points

Uudoka Azubuike over 13 points

Devonte Graham under 13 points

Lagerald Vick to shoot over 50%

Bob Huggins to wear the sweat suit 100%




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#2027891 - 02/16/18 04:24 PM Re: West Virginia vs Kansas [Re: Maximus]
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#2027896 - 02/16/18 04:54 PM Re: West Virginia vs Kansas [Re: Maximus]
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HuggieBear a Beau Brummel.

Love it!
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#2027910 - 02/17/18 11:11 AM Re: West Virginia vs Kansas [Re: Maximus]
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KU to cover -3 and the under. Silvio under 5 minutes playing time ..Dok over on 3 slam bam jams. KU over 10 treys...


Edited by PHOGUSHER (02/17/18 11:12 AM)
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#2027912 - 02/17/18 01:16 PM Re: West Virginia vs Kansas [Re: Maximus]
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Kansas 76-73

Esa Ahmad over 19 points No

Jevon Carter under 15 points Yes

Silvio De Sousa over 4 points No

Uudoka Azubuike over 13 points Yes

Devonte Graham under 13 points No

Lagerald Vick to shoot over 50% No

No chance Huggins wears that suit.


Edited by jahawker2004 (02/17/18 01:17 PM)
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#2027915 - 02/17/18 01:53 PM Re: West Virginia vs Kansas [Re: Maximus]
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All these prop bets make my stone head spin but I'll try.

KU 83 WVU 76 cover and over

Esa Ahmad over 19 points No

Jevon Carter under 15 points No

Silvio De Sousa over 4 points Yes

Uudoka Azubuike over 13 points Yes

Devonte Graham under 13 points No

Lagerald Vick to shoot over 50% Yes

Would love to see Huggy wear that suit but not happening.
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#2027920 - 02/17/18 05:16 PM Re: West Virginia vs Kansas [Re: Maximus]
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Let's roll b!tches!



Edited by KUHawkhead (02/17/18 05:16 PM)
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#2027921 - 02/17/18 05:17 PM Re: West Virginia vs Kansas [Re: Maximus]
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Still can't believe you can't phucking curse on here.
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#2027923 - 02/17/18 06:35 PM Re: West Virginia vs Kansas [Re: Maximus]
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I don't understand why everybody comes into our building this year and shoots the ball better than we do.
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#2027924 - 02/17/18 07:06 PM Re: West Virginia vs Kansas [Re: Maximus]
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Because Self has recruited a bunch of warm bodies to fill vacancy's left by the departing one and done players and Sr's instead of recruiting players who want to be here to represent KANSAS.

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#2027926 - 02/17/18 07:33 PM Re: West Virginia vs Kansas [Re: Maximus]
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Wrong. This team led the conference and was one of the top teams in the nation in 3pt shooting in the first half of the season. There are good shooters on this team. They just don't shoot well at home. Hard to figure when most teams shoot better at home. I think they need to practice their 3's in the Phog instead of the practice gym.
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#2027927 - 02/17/18 07:34 PM Re: West Virginia vs Kansas [Re: Maximus]
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Ugly but we'll take it. Go Baylor.
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#2027928 - 02/17/18 08:00 PM Re: West Virginia vs Kansas [Re: INation]
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Originally Posted By: INation
Because Self has recruited a bunch of warm bodies to fill vacancy's left by the departing one and done players and Sr's instead of recruiting players who want to be here to represent KANSAS.


Only one player one and done this year (Preston) and he never played.

Only two seniors.

Who are the warm bodies who don't want to be here? These kids are playing their guts out despite being outsized every game.

The REAL problem this year was Self runnng off Coleby and having three transfers who couldn't play.
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#2027929 - 02/17/18 08:02 PM Re: West Virginia vs Kansas [Re: jahawker2004]
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Last year--only one one and done.

Only two departing seniors with significant playing time.

One and dones are NOT our problem.
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#2027930 - 02/17/18 08:06 PM Re: West Virginia vs Kansas [Re: Maximus]
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Huggins is turning into Bob Knight (the senior version). Tremendous free throw disparity but like Devonte said they could have gotten called for even more fouls. 35 - 2 but Dok was 7-10. One guy shoots almost a third of them and they were all legitimate fouls.
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#2027931 - 02/17/18 08:13 PM Re: West Virginia vs Kansas [Re: PHOGUSHER]
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Originally Posted By: PHOGUSHER
KU to cover -3 and the under. Silvio under 5 minutes playing time ..Dok over on 3 slam bam jams. KU over 10 treys...


Oh yeah babeee...Usher rules...2004 drools.
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#2027932 - 02/17/18 08:47 PM Re: West Virginia vs Kansas [Re: jahawker2004]
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Originally Posted By: jahawker2004
Originally Posted By: INation
Because Self has recruited a bunch of warm bodies to fill vacancy's left by the departing one and done players and Sr's instead of recruiting players who want to be here to represent KANSAS.


Only one player one and done this year (Preston) and he never played.

Only two seniors.

Who are the warm bodies who don't want to be here? These kids are playing their guts out despite being outsized every game.

The REAL problem this year was Self runnng off Coleby and having three transfers who couldn't play.


Straight from the Head coach after the Oklahoma State game:

" Guards Svi Mykhailiuk and Devonte’ Graham were the only players the KU coach cited as having satisfactory effort Saturday.
“Those guys, they give their heart and soul to every game,” Self said. “If everybody else was committed like those guys I think we would perform a little bit better.”

Self noted that the 7-footer has lacked "quickness, intensity, athletic ability, want-to more than anything else"

“I think we have a couple of guys (starters) that obviously don’t try very hard"

"It'd be nice to have guys compete and play to their athletic ability"

"When you look back to why we've lost some games, it's been attitude. It's been focus. It's been preparation. It's been selfishness. It's been effort. It's been energy. It's been intensity. It's been competitiveness, or lack thereof," Self said.

this was just after one game but it's all fake news right! lol

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#2027933 - 02/17/18 09:31 PM Re: West Virginia vs Kansas [Re: INation]
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We played West Virginia tonight, not Oklahoma State, Coach lauded the effort and desire.

Do you REALLY think our losses this year are because we've got kids who don't want to be here?

Not maximum effort every night out? I could agree wiht that. But I don't see anyone who has thrown in the towel.

Every year Self moans about us not playing good enough defense and lacking intensity. It's coachspeak.

Again, which players are the ones not hustling enough and actiing like they don't even want to be here? I sure didn't notice any of that tonight.
.


Edited by jahawker2004 (02/17/18 10:07 PM)
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#2027934 - 02/17/18 09:33 PM Re: West Virginia vs Kansas [Re: PHOGUSHER]
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Originally Posted By: PHOGUSHER
Originally Posted By: PHOGUSHER
KU to cover -3 and the under. Silvio under 5 minutes playing time ..Dok over on 3 slam bam jams. KU over 10 treys...


Oh yeah babeee...Usher rules...2004 drools.


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#2027935 - 02/17/18 09:36 PM Re: West Virginia vs Kansas [Re: AlOerter]
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Originally Posted By: AlOerter
Huggins is turning into Bob Knight (the senior version). Tremendous free throw disparity but like Devonte said they could have gotten called for even more fouls. 35 - 2 but Dok was 7-10. One guy shoots almost a third of them and they were all legitimate fouls.


Devonte is right but we also could have been called for even more fouls. Especially the one there at the end that set HuggieBear off.

We're KU. Tradition has its privileges. One of them is always getting a good whistle in Allen Field House. And I don't have any problem with that at all.


Edited by jahawker2004 (02/17/18 10:09 PM)
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#2027936 - 02/17/18 10:06 PM Re: West Virginia vs Kansas [Re: Maximus]
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99 is very happy tonight.
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#2027937 - 02/17/18 10:19 PM Re: West Virginia vs Kansas [Re: Maximus]
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8-10 of those freebies came in the last 40 seconds of the game when they were fouling intentionally.

35-2............don't recall ever seeing those kind of numbers ever in a college game where players are flying around the court like us and WVU.

Do we get some calls at the Phog? Sure we do, like any other blueblood program. Not going to lie, but this is on the extreme end. If I were a Huggiebear, I would have issue with this as well.

With saying that, we were the more aggressive team on the offensive end tonight and did deserve most of the calls that came our way, but I did see some fouls that weren't called against us as well.

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#2027938 - 02/17/18 10:28 PM Re: West Virginia vs Kansas [Re: Maximus]
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Forgot to add in the fact that we outplayed them in the last 6 minutes of game, and we made the plays to win the game. More than anything else, Huggie diverted some attention from his club who has lost a slew of close games now after leading by double digits.

A focused WVU in the tourney will still be a hard out. I think they are a contender to reach the Elite 8 and possible Final 4.

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#2027939 - 02/17/18 11:58 PM Re: West Virginia vs Kansas [Re: jhawks99]
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Originally Posted By: jhawks99
99 is very happy tonight.


GTFO...no dot net weenies allowed...
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#2027943 - 02/18/18 02:21 AM Re: West Virginia vs Kansas [Re: Jaycat92]
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Originally Posted By: Jaycat92
8-10 of those freebies came in the last 40 seconds of the game when they were fouling intentionally.

35-2............don't recall ever seeing those kind of numbers ever in a college game where players are flying around the court like us and WVU.

Do we get some calls at the Phog? Sure we do, like any other blueblood program. Not going to lie, but this is on the extreme end. If I were a Huggiebear, I would have issue with this as well.

With saying that, we were the more aggressive team on the offensive end tonight and did deserve most of the calls that came our way, but I did see some fouls that weren't called against us as well.


Great post!

And West Virginia always wilts down the stretch. Remember their March Madness exit last year?
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#2027948 - 02/18/18 07:23 AM Re: West Virginia vs Kansas [Re: PHOGUSHER]
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Originally Posted By: PHOGUSHER
Originally Posted By: jhawks99
99 is very happy tonight.


GTFO...no dot net weenies allowed...
He seems like a well adjusted poster to me. Glad he is very happy and can post it.
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#2027949 - 02/18/18 07:25 AM Re: West Virginia vs Kansas [Re: jahawker2004]
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Registered: 05/22/08
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Originally Posted By: jahawker2004
Originally Posted By: Jaycat92
8-10 of those freebies came in the last 40 seconds of the game when they were fouling intentionally.

35-2............don't recall ever seeing those kind of numbers ever in a college game where players are flying around the court like us and WVU.

Do we get some calls at the Phog? Sure we do, like any other blueblood program. Not going to lie, but this is on the extreme end. If I were a Huggiebear, I would have issue with this as well.

With saying that, we were the more aggressive team on the offensive end tonight and did deserve most of the calls that came our way, but I did see some fouls that weren't called against us as well.


Great post!

And West Virginia always wilts down the stretch. Remember their March Madness exit last year?
They are just following their MO this season, which is reminiscent of previous ones under Hugeybare.
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#2027950 - 02/18/18 08:09 AM Re: West Virginia vs Kansas [Re: KUCO_VOC]
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Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
Originally Posted By: PHOGUSHER
Originally Posted By: jhawks99
99 is very happy tonight.


GTFO...no dot net weenies allowed...
He seems like a well adjusted poster to me. Glad he is very happy and can post it.


Actually 99 is a pretty good dude. He is just a fringe member of the middle school arrogant bully club over there. Not sure about being well adjusted though. But like others I m glad he is happy as others should be about that win.
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#2027963 - 02/18/18 11:31 AM Re: West Virginia vs Kansas [Re: Maximus]
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Huggy can complain all he wants. He coaches his guys to grab and hold and shove for 40 minutes and dares the refs to call them all. They finally called him on it.
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#2027969 - 02/18/18 04:47 PM Re: West Virginia vs Kansas [Re: Maximus]
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Registered: 07/27/10
Loc: KS
Very true Al. Plus, the fact that WVC decided to shoot a lot of 3 pointers, which means you don't get nearly as many foul calls, as driving to the basket, or working the inside. I have read several big time coaches that ran the "40 minutes of hell." And they flat state: "we start out FOULING at all five positions at once to over-load the officials, and we see what they will call or what they are not willing to call, then we slightly adjust if needed, little by little." Finally, if we have to pull back for awhile, we do so, then slowly ramp-up the fouls again and again, to test and push, so as to find the limit." Usually that works, but sometimes it will bite you bad, especially in big games or rivalry games. Also, if the officials know your reputation or they discuss things prior to the game and decide to call a fairly close game because it is a hot/physical, rivalry game.

I believe Bobby likes to work his game right on the edge of dirty, illegal, or just nasty because he usually recruits players that just simply can't match up to really good teams and play them straight up. And simply said, that's how he played and that's the only way he knows how to coach. It would be interesting to see if he could recruit the elite players and really coach basketball, and see what his success might be. JMO

I do NOT like what that teaches! That's not teaching or loving the game of basketball. It teaches how to get around the rules of a game, to operate outside the boundaries and rules. Basically, screw the game of basketball and do what we need to do to win. And I'm NOT talking about hardnosed man-to-man, lock down defense, I am talking about constant grabbing, pushing, elbowing, holding, knockem-down, fouling type of BS defense to physically intimidate the other team. Call it what you want, but it simply ain't basketball. It's cheap playground, thug ball Bobby!! And sometimes you have officials that will call you on it! Then you end up will a huge difference in the number of fouls called on each team.

Last point, officials are just human, and they will miss calls, but when you cry and cry, whine and whine, and curse and curse at them, I think they become a little stone deaf to your rants. And just maybe there becomes a little bit of push back at you too. JMO


Edited by prairiehawk (02/18/18 04:58 PM)

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#2027971 - 02/18/18 07:13 PM Re: West Virginia vs Kansas [Re: Maximus]
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Huggiebear gets the most out of his teams talent level. I will never take anything away from how hard his teams play. They play hard, foul hard, and come at you hard. Its up to the more talented teams to decide if they want to match that intensity. More often, more talented teams won't show up in that way to often.

Sure WVU fouls a lot. They do dare the officials to make calls, and for the better part of most games, they get away with it.

Even though Cincy played in the Big East for a few years, this is what made the Big East a collossal conference for decades. They played with this style of toughness and dared officials to make calls.

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#2027972 - 02/18/18 07:31 PM Re: West Virginia vs Kansas [Re: Jaycat92]
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Jay - I don't want to argue with you, and we may be talking apples and oranges. I admire toughness and intensity, BUT I see their style as far more than toughness and intensity. If you like it that's fine, I just flat don't. But that's fine.

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#2028019 - 02/19/18 02:00 PM Re: West Virginia vs Kansas [Re: Maximus]
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No I don't like the rough and rugged style of play that WVU boasts having, but I do admire the fact that Huggie gets lesser players and they compete against 4 and 5 star recruits and win alot of games doing so.

Is this style of play fun to watch, hell no. Is is providing some level of toughness to measure yourself against, yes. Imagine if our Roy coached teams would have had to play against WVU back in he day? Imagine how much tougher we would have been come tourney time. Would have made some difference. Big East won alot more national titles than the Big 12. I think it gets misunderstood that physical play is not dirty play.

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#2028027 - 02/19/18 03:07 PM Re: West Virginia vs Kansas [Re: Jaycat92]
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Great, thboughtful posts Jaycat 92.

Have we all forgotten how Bill Self owns Roy Williams head to head because of style of play contrasts? Remember how UNC players acknowledged after 2008 and 2012 NCAA tourney losses that KU's physical style made the difference?

Self Illinois team that took out a much softer KU in the 2001 Sweet 16 provided the blueprint for how to beat Roy Williams' teams .It was a masterpiece.

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