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#2025922 - 01/07/18 10:01 AM Billy & Silvio
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Really feel for these guys having to sit and watch knowing they could help their teammates.

Interesting to think if they would have been available - would we have lost not getting the kind of game we got from Lightfoot or would we have won by double digits?

Love the effort and attitude from Mitch...a true teammate. Will be an important 4yr. guy.
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#2025924 - 01/07/18 10:24 AM Re: Billy & Silvio [Re: AlOerter]
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I'll concern myself with the two unicorns when and if the time comes.

It was a blast watching The Lightfeet in his beast mode last night.

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#2025939 - 01/07/18 10:28 PM Re: Billy & Silvio [Re: AlOerter]
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The NCAA is not to blame for either player's predicament.

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#2025942 - 01/08/18 03:21 AM Re: Billy & Silvio [Re: casey]
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#2025956 - 01/08/18 09:49 AM Re: Billy & Silvio [Re: AlOerter]
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So if anyone has watched Preston and/or DeSousa at the practices how does the team shape up? How much more do they add to the mix? Right now we're not at all that formidable, but just sort of middle- of- the pack good.
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#2025960 - 01/08/18 10:50 AM Re: Billy & Silvio [Re: AlOerter]
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Most practices are closed to the public. So I doubt anyone can contribute. Preston has practiced all along and played vs Mizzou in that charity game. He looked pretty good that day. Of course dumb old michhawk will chime in with some goofy stoic witlessism on the matter.
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#2025961 - 01/08/18 10:54 AM Re: Billy & Silvio [Re: AlOerter]
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Preston plays like a Marcus Morris of sorts (first name that comes to mind--not implying he's a Big 12 POY right now).

He's not going to play much back to the basket or back down a defender. He's going to shoot mid-range jumpers at a decent percent and take the occasional guy off the dribble. He's also got decent enough vision to pass well in the high/low. Looks athletic enough to catch some of our lob passes that we work into the offense.

He's still a step slow against seasoned players on defense, and he makes the occasional bonehead play trying to be too fancy. In the bit that I've seen, he's not a great shot blocker either.

Definitely going to help the team, though.

Haven't seen much of De Sousa. With the holidays, lack of school in session, and more frequent games, it's difficult to track down the schedule to see the practices since he arrived.
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#2025962 - 01/08/18 10:55 AM Re: Billy & Silvio [Re: AlOerter]
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In that Mizzou game Preston had 12 pts and 4 boards in 15 mins of play. Pretty efficient.
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#2025972 - 01/08/18 01:41 PM Re: Billy & Silvio [Re: casey]
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Originally Posted By: casey
The NCAA is not to blame for either player's predicament.
I believe the NCAA was never mentioned on this thread. Just say'in...
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#2025976 - 01/08/18 02:12 PM Re: Billy & Silvio [Re: 58hawk]
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Originally Posted By: 58hawk
Originally Posted By: casey
The NCAA is not to blame for either player's predicament.
I believe the NCAA was never mentioned on this thread. Just say'in...


You're right, but everyone here is aware of the context.

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#2025985 - 01/08/18 02:55 PM Re: Billy & Silvio [Re: AlOerter]
dgless21 Online   mad
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Well...still no news today per Tait. Fun.

No one blames the NCAA for the predicament, but their response times make places like Comcast look competent.
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#2025987 - 01/08/18 03:26 PM Re: Billy & Silvio [Re: dgless21]
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Originally Posted By: dgless21
Well...still no news today per Tait. Fun.

No one blames the NCAA for the predicament, but their response times make places like Comcast look competent.


Self has started openly blaming the NCAA over the last couple days, as have Dickie V and 80% of the commenters on Tait's columns.

I know it's sacrilege to say this around here, but Self is in the wrong.

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#2025989 - 01/08/18 03:42 PM Re: Billy & Silvio [Re: AlOerter]
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You don't know crap. Especially about if Self is right or not...
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#2025991 - 01/08/18 03:51 PM Re: Billy & Silvio [Re: AlOerter]
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I'm sure it can't be that the NCAA is just moving slow. They've never, ever done that before.

Self obviously has to be in the wrong.
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#2025994 - 01/08/18 04:08 PM Re: Billy & Silvio [Re: dgless21]
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Originally Posted By: dgless21
I'm sure it can't be that the NCAA is just moving slow. They've never, ever done that before.

Self obviously has to be in the wrong.


Cliff Alexander.

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#2025998 - 01/08/18 04:36 PM Re: Billy & Silvio [Re: AlOerter]
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Wow. You threw out a name with no explanation as to your point. Let me try.

Barbara Walters.

Now if I instead said, "The NCAA moves slower than Barbara Walters," there would be a point to my including that name.

Now you try.
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#2026003 - 01/08/18 05:37 PM Re: Billy & Silvio [Re: casey]
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Originally Posted By: casey
Originally Posted By: 58hawk
Originally Posted By: casey
The NCAA is not to blame for either player's predicament.
I believe the NCAA was never mentioned on this thread. Just say'in...


You're right, but everyone here is aware of the context.
You love this because you are not a KU fan and no one is saying the NCAA is to blame. You are just twisting facts and creating fabrications.
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#2026006 - 01/08/18 06:31 PM Re: Billy & Silvio [Re: 58hawk]
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What fact(s) did he twist?

What fabrication did he create?

And yes, people are saying the NCAA is to blame.
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#2026008 - 01/08/18 07:12 PM Re: Billy & Silvio [Re: 58hawk]
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Originally Posted By: 58hawk
Originally Posted By: casey
Originally Posted By: 58hawk
Originally Posted By: casey
The NCAA is not to blame for either player's predicament.
I believe the NCAA was never mentioned on this thread. Just say'in...


You're right, but everyone here is aware of the context.
You love this because you are not a KU fan and no one is saying the NCAA is to blame. You are just twisting facts and creating fabrications.


I am a KU fan. Why would I spend time here if I wasn't?

It's no secret I'm dissatisfied with the current athletic department leadership. And I find the "Jayhawks can do no wrong" wing of KU's fandom abundantly tiresome. But I find great joy in watching classy KU programs win. I look forward to the post Self era, when that will happen again.

I know you don't believe me. I'm ok with that.

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#2026009 - 01/08/18 07:16 PM Re: Billy & Silvio [Re: casey]
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Be honest here casey--

Who did you root for when KU played Arizona State?
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#2026011 - 01/08/18 07:26 PM Re: Billy & Silvio [Re: jahawker2004]
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Originally Posted By: jahawker2004
Be honest here casey--

Who did you root for when KU played Arizona State?


Cliff Alexander.

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#2026021 - 01/09/18 10:19 AM Re: Billy & Silvio [Re: AlOerter]
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It was pretty well-known Cliff was done at KU by 3/12 when Cliff's attorney told the media they couldn't/wouldn't provide the NCAA the documents it wanted. KU was first alerted to an potential issue on 2/28.

Billy's eligibility question has been posed for 56 days and counting despite his mom, KU, and Billy providing all information requested (per Self and his mom's twitter).

Interesting comparison.
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#2026030 - 01/09/18 01:18 PM Re: Billy & Silvio [Re: casey]
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You're right, but everyone here is aware of the context.[/quote] You love this because you are not a KU fan and no one is saying the NCAA is to blame. You are just twisting facts and creating fabrications. [/quote]

I am a KU fan. Why would I spend time here if I wasn't?

It's no secret I'm dissatisfied with the current athletic department leadership. And I find the "Jayhawks can do no wrong" wing of KU's fandom abundantly tiresome. But I find great joy in watching classy KU programs win. I look forward to the post Self era, when that will happen again.

I know you don't believe me. I'm ok with that.[/quote] Why do you look forward to the post Self era? Do you not like Self?
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#2026031 - 01/09/18 01:30 PM Re: Billy & Silvio [Re: AlOerter]
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Right...Gaysey is a troll biiitch....this Preston and Silvio crap is going to make me switch from beer to bourbon drinking. Casgaydia and his dot net boy toys are discussing their bourbon of choice. I thought Casgaydia was a high roller. He drinks Bulliet a very middle of the road bourbon that's 19 bucks a fifth at WallyWorld...lol.
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#2026032 - 01/09/18 02:03 PM Re: Billy & Silvio [Re: AlOerter]
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He's been connected to WSU by a lot of posters over the last few years.

I imagine he's anti-Self because, like all WSU fans, he thinks the next coach will be dumb enough to somehow see value in playing WSU.

Outside of maybe active 5 coaches (my 5 possibles: Izzo, K, Cal, Stevens, and Roy), you really can't make much of an argument for actually replacing Self despite the elite eight struggles and eligibility issues.
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#2026033 - 01/09/18 02:05 PM Re: Billy & Silvio [Re: dgless21]
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Originally Posted By: dgless21
Wow. You threw out a name with no explanation as to your point. Let me try.

Barbara Walters.

Now if I instead said, "The NCAA moves slower than Barbara Walters," there would be a point to my including that name.

Now you try.
Barbara Walters.
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#2026041 - 01/09/18 04:28 PM Re: Billy & Silvio [Re: KUCO_VOC]
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Barbara Walters? How was she slow?

What would be the point of including her name/
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#2026042 - 01/09/18 04:31 PM Re: Billy & Silvio [Re: PHOGUSHER]
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Originally Posted By: PHOGUSHER
Right...Gaysey is a troll biiitch....this Preston and Silvio crap is going to make me switch from beer to bourbon drinking. Casgaydia and his dot net boy toys are discussing their bourbon of choice. I thought Casgaydia was a high roller. He drinks Bulliet a very middle of the road bourbon that's 19 bucks a fifth at WallyWorld...lol.


Gusher i had you pegged as a wine sipper.

Really cheap-ass wine, too. Thunderbird.
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#2026045 - 01/09/18 05:34 PM Re: Billy & Silvio [Re: AlOerter]
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Nahh...Maddog 20 20. Use to feed it o your moms before I gave her the ole in out..in out...wink wink my droogie..
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#2026058 - 01/09/18 09:39 PM Re: Billy & Silvio [Re: AlOerter]
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Barbara Walters is slow. She's 88 and failing physically.

Watch the news.
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#2026097 - 01/10/18 06:49 PM Re: Billy & Silvio [Re: AlOerter]
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I want to see Preston and DeSousa on the floor Saturday. We need rebounds. Preston would be the perfect compliment to Dok on the high/low. Then Lightfoot could be high and DeSousa low off the bench.
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#2026117 - 01/11/18 12:21 PM Re: Billy & Silvio [Re: AlOerter]
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We are less than 60 days away from the start of the BIG 12 tournament. With every passing day the positive impact these two can have on this season gets less and less.

Another couple weeks go by and those two might as well red-shirt. If that is even an option.

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#2026118 - 01/11/18 12:27 PM Re: Billy & Silvio [Re: AlOerter]
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Lol...over 3/4th of the conference season left and you want to give up on these guys. Both are practicing every game so they will be ready when the time comes. Man talk about a quitter...thy name is michhawk....pathetic
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#2026119 - 01/11/18 12:36 PM Re: Billy & Silvio [Re: PHOGUSHER]
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I'm a cagey veteran. I know better than to hinge my hopes and dreams on two kids that have not played 1 thin minute in a KU uniform. If they get cleared SOON, they might help some. But the addition of those two, at this point, is not going to change the outcome of our season much.

It's called reality. Some of us have to live in it.

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#2026124 - 01/11/18 01:33 PM Re: Billy & Silvio [Re: MICHHAWK]
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I tend to agree, although I think the addition (now!) of Preston would be a big plus.

After all, he already has played much more than "one thin" minute in a KU uniform.

Now THAT's reality.
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#2026126 - 01/11/18 01:42 PM Re: Billy & Silvio [Re: AlOerter]
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Is michhawk his damn slow on the uptake. That Missouri exhibition game was as competitive as any this yr. Billy scored 12 pts and had 6 boards in 15 minutes of play. If it was up to numbnutz michhawk we would start 4 Lightfeet and one Morningsleeves on this team...Idiot.
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#2026131 - 01/11/18 02:12 PM Re: Billy & Silvio [Re: PHOGUSHER]
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Originally Posted By: PHOGUSHER
That Missouri exhibition game was as competitive as any this yr. Billy scored 12 pts and had 6 boards in 15 minutes of play.


Even though he did pretty good in a scrimmage game back in October, I will likely refrain from betting my farm if and when billy p. gets himself cleared.

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#2026132 - 01/11/18 02:19 PM Re: Billy & Silvio [Re: MICHHAWK]
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Don't bet your own property Michhawk, bet some K-State plowboy's farm instead.

Billy Preston will never play another minute in a KU uniform. Self rolled snake eyes on this one. Should never have sent Dwight Coleby packing.

I don't feel the slighest bit sorry for Preston. Good riddance. He created such a mess that even Self couldn't clean it up

I know--that's heresy. But it's true.
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#2026135 - 01/11/18 03:16 PM Re: Billy & Silvio [Re: AlOerter]
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The NCAA needs to get their heads out of their rears!
These endless "investigations" and decisions on whether a player is eligible are ridiculous. They're hurting the school, the players, the fans and everyone involved. There needs to be a rule change with situations like this. If they are investigating whether someone is eligible to transfer or if there is an investigation into possible violations, they need to let the player play until they decide. If the school decides to bench a player on their own, that time benched should count as time served if a suspension is implemented for the player after an investigation is finished.
Let's say after missing 2 months of scrimmage and 2/3 of the season, they decide Preston did nothing wrong and that Silvio was eligible when he arrived in Lawrence. They ended up punishing them for nothing in making them sit out while they decided. That is wrong!
Or they at least need to have a maximum clear cut deadline to investigate. They need to let the player play on a set date if no resolution has been made after an investigation starts. This is just basic due process.
A team could lose a dozen games that they would've otherwise won if a key player is held out for months while they process paperwork. KU would have likely won 1 or 2 of the close games we lost if we had Preston and/or Silvio in those games. That affects a team's rankings, NCAA standings, seeding, conference titles, etc, not to mention how it affects the player and fans. It's ridiculous. Self can't even get an answer to how it's going or when they should expect a decision. You can't plan scrimmages because you don't know if the guys will be able to play.

Possibly, our 2 most athletic players and top 20 recruits are kept from playing most of the season while they decide "IF" they did anything wrong. That's unacceptable.

That's my rant for the day. wink
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#2026137 - 01/11/18 03:41 PM Re: Billy & Silvio [Re: AlOerter]
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Holy crap Batfart..this situation has even brought Mush out of the woodwork. How is it going brother. Now if we can get morgs to comment maybe we got something.


...
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#2026138 - 01/11/18 03:44 PM Re: Billy & Silvio [Re: AlOerter]
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LOL!
Thanks Phogusher!

grin
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#2026139 - 01/11/18 03:45 PM Re: Billy & Silvio [Re: jahawker2004]
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Originally Posted By: jahawker2004
Don't bet your own property Michhawk, bet some K-State plowboy's farm instead.

Billy Preston will never play another minute in a KU uniform. Self rolled snake eyes on this one. Should never have sent Dwight Coleby packing.

I don't feel the slighest bit sorry for Preston. Good riddance. He created such a mess that even Self couldn't clean it up

I know--that's heresy. But it's true.


Oh you are so wrong on this 2004. If Self rolled snake eyes he would advise Preston to go play Euro ball.
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#2026140 - 01/11/18 03:48 PM Re: Billy & Silvio [Re: mushhawk]
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Originally Posted By: mushhawk
LOL!
Thanks Phogusher!

grin


No problem. I need somebody like you around here instead of naysayers like 2004 and michhawk. You get a 4k tv yet. Sorry couldn't resist.
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#2026152 - 01/11/18 04:59 PM Re: Billy & Silvio [Re: PHOGUSHER]
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It was a great and thought-provoking post by the musher but--

How is it fair to other teams if we play an ineligible player and they lose? It hurts their chances of making March Madness.

It ain't all about us.
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#2026157 - 01/11/18 05:45 PM Re: Billy & Silvio [Re: AlOerter]
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Its quite obvious that we wouldn't play an ineligible player. So 2004 ..you seem positive that Preston will never play. Do you have some inside information that the rest of us are not privy to....if so please enlighten us. Then we can stop yapping about it...
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#2026167 - 01/11/18 06:21 PM Re: Billy & Silvio [Re: PHOGUSHER]
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mushhawk took the position we SHOULD have been playing him all along.

He wants the rules changed. Even if they were changed, I would still disagree. It would be unfair to the teams that do follow the rules.

I want to play in March Madness.

Obviously, Self came to the same conclusion.

I try very hard to keep you enlightened Gusher. And it's my pleasure to do so. Just the kind of guy I am.
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#2026169 - 01/11/18 06:52 PM Re: Billy & Silvio [Re: AlOerter]
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But you haven't enlightened...again if you are positive that Preston won't ever be eligible I want your evidence to why not. I believe Self would have suggested that he would let Preston's mom to remove him from KU and let him play over seas to gain experience and then return for the next NBA draft...
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#2026177 - 01/11/18 10:48 PM Re: Billy & Silvio [Re: PHOGUSHER]
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Let me try this again Gusher--

On the Preston matter--I have no direct evidence of what the NCAA is or is not thinking. But I also don't believe they are necessarily dragging their feet.

From what we have read and heard, it seems the university is throwing a hail mary on this one. A one game suspension has now dragged on for two months while the university tries to do damage control and untangle the mess he created.

His mother coming out to Lawrence to attend to "paperwork" is highly suspicious, don't you think? We've invested a lot of effort not only to get this kid on campus in the first place but to get him on the court as well. If all this was some kind of misunderstanding or compliance "oversight" he would be playing by now.

Coming on the heels of the widely publicized FBI probe didn't help. I believe, and I think you'll agree, Self has deliberately stayed at arms length from getting involved (publicly) in this because he sees the implications for his program and the university. Not playing Preston is akin to a smoking gun.This is why I have consistently opined he will never play another minute in a KU uniform.

All this finger pointing at the NCAA is off target. Look how long it took KU to turn their file over to the NCAA. You would expect the same careful scrutiny by them as well.

I have nothing against the kid, but he (and apparently others) put him and the university in this position. I care more about KU than Preston and his mother's disappointment on how his one year drive-by attendance here affects his future.

.I'm coming around to Michhawk's position on all this. The season is half over, we need to move on one way or another. The status quo is hurting this team and its prospects in late March and April. .

One last thing--Tait, Keegan, Benton Smith, etc. know a hell of a lot more than what they are reporting. Their sketchy reporting on this matter has contributed to the runaway speculation by the rest of us.
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#2026178 - 01/11/18 11:32 PM Re: Billy & Silvio [Re: AlOerter]
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The team is 13-3...3-1 in B12 . . it would be the same with or without this Preston situation. And the season half over crap is stupid. I dont care if he would be eligible until the last 5 games. He could do nothing but help this team no matter what time frame it occurs. For a decent tournament run we need him. Perhaps you have given up on the matter but I haven't.
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#2026182 - 01/12/18 09:33 AM Re: Billy & Silvio [Re: AlOerter]
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Insulting if NCAA waits till the season is nearly over to re-instate Preston and or DeSousa. What a waste of their time. It would be nice though to have them for the tournaments.
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#2026193 - 01/12/18 10:50 AM Re: Billy & Silvio [Re: AlOerter]
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Exactly my point. Any talented front court help would be good help....no matter the date. I think the end of January might the point of no return.
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#2026201 - 01/12/18 01:43 PM Re: Billy & Silvio [Re: jahawker2004]
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I think you are wrong about the reporting, 2004. I haven't heard of a reporter sitting on a good story since the Kennedy days.

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#2026204 - 01/12/18 02:15 PM Re: Billy & Silvio [Re: AlOerter]
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Lol
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#2026498 - 01/18/18 12:30 PM Re: Billy & Silvio [Re: AlOerter]
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No news still on Preston. Dot netters talking crap about him. Its got to be killing him. But yet he is enthusiastically supporting our team on the bench every game. He could bolt and make money playing over seas...then come back for the NBA draft. Phd on the dot net stated he would tell Preston to fugg off to his face if he ever met him. The only problem with that is the miniscule Phd would have to say that to Billy's belly button...lol
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#2026501 - 01/18/18 12:57 PM Re: Billy & Silvio [Re: PHOGUSHER]
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I have no idea because I really do not follow it much. But I find it hard to believe that billy p. is on anyone's draft board. Maybe he is, I don't know. But I bet he isn't.

I don't feel bad for billy p. I don't have ill feelings toward billy p. I have nothing for billy p. as billy p. has been nothing so far. Nothing for nothing.

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#2026513 - 01/18/18 03:09 PM Re: Billy & Silvio [Re: MICHHAWK]
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Well Michhawk--a post of yours I completely agree with. And no name-calling!

"Nothing for nothing"--very punny!
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#2026534 - 01/18/18 06:45 PM Re: Billy & Silvio [Re: AlOerter]
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2004...you are a wuss...agreeing ith michhawk half the time nd agreeing with me half the time...talk about wishy washy...no bueno.
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#2026535 - 01/18/18 06:52 PM Re: Billy & Silvio [Re: AlOerter]
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The NCAA needs to clear BP ASAP so he can get some PT for KU. RCJHKU!
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#2026536 - 01/18/18 08:09 PM Re: Billy & Silvio [Re: PHOGUSHER]
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Originally Posted By: PHOGUSHER
2004...you are a wuss...agreeing ith michhawk half the time nd agreeing with me half the time...talk about wishy washy...no bueno.


Gusher you are incorrect.

I agree with you about half the time and with Michhawk hardly any of the time.

I'm the one who proclaimed MONTHS ago "Billy Preston will never play another minute in a KU uniform." He is wise to come around to my point of view and you need to wise up too.
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#2026537 - 01/18/18 09:32 PM Re: Billy & Silvio [Re: AlOerter]
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So explain this Braniac....why does Preston remain on the bench supporting our team whole heartedly if he has no chanc to play. He could leave and play over seas...and again o to the NBA draft ext year...but yet he is patiently waiting for the NCAA to clear him....you know nothing old man.
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#2026545 - Yesterday at 03:21 AM Re: Billy & Silvio [Re: PHOGUSHER]
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Preston remains on the bench wholeheartedly supporting the team as long as Bill Self wants him to or the NCAA says he can't.

Bill Self knows it would not look good to future recruits if he sent Preston walking before the NCAA says he has to..And the young man is under scholarship, by all accounts an excellent teammate.

His draft stock has plummeted. He perhaps should stay in college another season (if he's cleared to play) to improve it.

Play overseas now? The draft is only a few months away. His only true option now is "patiently waiting for the NCAA to clear him" as you said in your post.

The only point I keep trying to drive home to you is, in my opinion, we are throwing a Hail Mary hoping the NCAA will clear Prestion to play and I think we've reached the point where our expectations are perhaps detrimental to our chances of success when the Big Dance rolls around.

And thank you for acknowleging my intellectual heft. I am much too humble to go around tooting my own horn.
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#2026546 - Yesterday at 03:25 AM Re: Billy & Silvio [Re: jahawker2004]
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One more thing--LaGerald Vick is gonna step it up. We'll be just fine.
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#2026548 - Yesterday at 04:41 AM Re: Billy & Silvio [Re: AlOerter]
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Oh you toot plenty from the Miralax and other old people drihs....DEPENDS..
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#2026550 - Yesterday at 09:23 AM Re: Billy & Silvio [Re: PHOGUSHER]
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At this point in the game billy p. has no choice but to ride this out.

Less than 60 days from now we are competing in the first weekend of the ncaa tourney. Makes no matter to the outcome of our season if billy p. is cleared to compete or not. That ship has sailed.

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#2026557 - Yesterday at 11:06 AM Re: Billy & Silvio [Re: AlOerter]
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I guess...so sad for da keed. But apparently he committed the crime so he is doing the time.
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#2026595 - Yesterday at 08:47 PM Re: Billy & Silvio [Re: AlOerter]
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The season is slipping away for him.
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