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#2024813 - 12/10/17 05:14 PM KSuck style scheduling.
John_Brown Offline
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Registered: 08/29/02
Loc: Newton Kansas
Why are we scheduling road games in the MAC? Why aren't we playing two Div1aa games per year. Honestly, this team should never play a road game non-conference til the talent level goes up. Everyone tells me that Zenger learned the business bouncing up and down on Bill Snyder's knee. Yet here we are making a road trip to a MAC team for the 2nd year in a row half a decade into the Zenger era. Anyone familiar w/ the BillSnyder strategy from 89 to 95 would know he played two Div 1aa games a year. He opted out of a road trip to Laramie. They'd also know that Ksuck turned down money to get the schedule arranged properly. They'd also know that BillSnyder pointed out that pounding a couple of cupcakes limits injuries and gets playing time to the #2s and 3s while getting confidence up for the rest of the team.

Come on Zenger/Beaty. We spent the penalty payout amount last winter buying new teevees/remodeling Anderson. What's more valuable to this team right now? The Ws or remodeling a facility less than ten years old? What did the Wizard do once upon a time? You should know. You were supposed to be there back when.

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#2024835 - 12/11/17 08:13 AM Re: KSuck style scheduling. [Re: John_Brown]
kylecof11 Offline
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Registered: 07/20/09
Loc: Kansas
First of all, there is a rule that if you play 2 1AA teams a year, then only one counts towards bowl eligibility. So you would have to go at least 7-5 and even then your record would basically be 6-5 in terms of bowl eligibility.

Secondly, in order to schedule a lot of these "mid major" teams, they will require a home and home. Not many times now do you get to schedule a MAC team for a home game and that's it. Unless you want to give a team a large payout, you will be playing a road game in non-con. Ask Okie State, Michigan St, Iowa State as they all have had MAC road games in the last few years.
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#2024842 - 12/11/17 11:12 AM sKUm scheduling. [Re: kylecof11]
tmcats Offline
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Registered: 09/08/02
Loc: reservation lake, mn
what happened two/three decades ago is probably not germane today.

i believe teams would be better playing weak p5 schools home&home than taking on the ohio's of the world, who oftentimes are better than teams like oregon state, vandy and indiana. if you're going to lose, at least make it to someone in the upper division who you have a chance of beating now and then.

one cupcake should be sufficient. you know, someone like north dakota state.
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#2024855 - 12/11/17 12:55 PM Re: KSuck style scheduling. [Re: kylecof11]
beenahawk Offline
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Registered: 09/01/02
Loc: Topeka, Kansas
Originally Posted By: kylecof11
First of all, there is a rule that if you play 2 1AA teams a year, then only one counts towards bowl eligibility. So you would have to go at least 7-5 and even then your record would basically be 6-5 in terms of bowl eligibility.



the LAST thing Zenger and Beaty need to worry about is "bowl eligibility". Step one is actually attaining a 3 win season, step two, winning a road game, step three, winning a conference game. If and When Zenger/Beaty get to six wins (laughable!) we can worry about the bowl issue then. crazy

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#2024895 - 12/11/17 05:15 PM Re: KSuck style scheduling. [Re: beenahawk]
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Registered: 05/22/08
Loc: Denver, CO
Originally Posted By: beenahawk
Originally Posted By: kylecof11
First of all, there is a rule that if you play 2 1AA teams a year, then only one counts towards bowl eligibility. So you would have to go at least 7-5 and even then your record would basically be 6-5 in terms of bowl eligibility.



the LAST thing Zenger and Beaty need to worry about is "bowl eligibility". Step one is actually attaining a 3 win season, step two, winning a road game, step three, winning a conference game. If and When Zenger/Beaty get to six wins (laughable!) we can worry about the bowl issue then. crazy
After 2018 and step one is lowered to a lower bar, the rest of the steps lead to the football basement one more time. After all the stability of getting clobbered sinks in the next group will lead us out the wilderness.
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#2024922 - 12/11/17 08:07 PM Re: KSuck style scheduling. [Re: John_Brown]
dgless21 Offline
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Registered: 03/27/05
Loc: 23rd Street Brewery
How many floors does this basement have, exactly?
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#2024934 - 12/12/17 10:42 AM Re: sKUm style scheduling. [Re: dgless21]
tmcats Offline
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Registered: 09/08/02
Loc: reservation lake, mn
Originally Posted By: dgless21
How many floors does this basement have, exactly?


the bottom floor is the big east, i suppose.
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#2024936 - 12/12/17 10:50 AM Re: KSuck style scheduling. [Re: beenahawk]
kylecof11 Offline
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Registered: 07/20/09
Loc: Kansas
Originally Posted By: beenahawk
Originally Posted By: kylecof11
First of all, there is a rule that if you play 2 1AA teams a year, then only one counts towards bowl eligibility. So you would have to go at least 7-5 and even then your record would basically be 6-5 in terms of bowl eligibility.



the LAST thing Zenger and Beaty need to worry about is "bowl eligibility". Step one is actually attaining a 3 win season, step two, winning a road game, step three, winning a conference game. If and When Zenger/Beaty get to six wins (laughable!) we can worry about the bowl issue then. crazy


Then what's the point of scheduling another 1AA game, when it wouldn't even count? All teams go for bowl eligibility.

The problem is playing the MAC schools. Glad KU is going away from that in the future. Get Coastal Carolina, Duke, Illinois, Boston College and so on. MAC schools are dangerous to play. Always have been and will be for a long time.
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#2024937 - 12/12/17 11:21 AM Re: KSuck style scheduling. [Re: tmcats]
dgless21 Offline
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Registered: 03/27/05
Loc: 23rd Street Brewery
Originally Posted By: tmcats
Originally Posted By: dgless21
How many floors does this basement have, exactly?


the bottom floor is the big east, i suppose.


The big east doesn't sponsor football. That would be at least a floor up from where we're at now with Zenger.

I suppose that's what you get when you hire KState grads.
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#2024940 - 12/12/17 11:52 AM Re: KSuck style scheduling. [Re: dgless21]
tmcats Offline
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Registered: 09/08/02
Loc: reservation lake, mn
Originally Posted By: dgless21
Originally Posted By: tmcats
Originally Posted By: dgless21
How many floors does this basement have, exactly?


the bottom floor is the big east, i suppose.


The big east doesn't sponsor football. That would be at least a floor up from where we're at now with Zenger.

I suppose that's what you get when you hire KState grads.


we didn't hire him, you did. at the time, k-state took john currie.
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#2024941 - 12/12/17 12:18 PM Re: KSuck style scheduling. [Re: John_Brown]
dgless21 Offline
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Registered: 03/27/05
Loc: 23rd Street Brewery
I was using the generic form of "you" in reference to an unspecified person. I was not using it as a second person pronoun.
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#2024946 - 12/12/17 02:25 PM Re: sKUm style scheduling. [Re: dgless21]
tmcats Offline
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Registered: 09/08/02
Loc: reservation lake, mn
rumors around that mack brown is headed to mhk as o'coordinator. would that be a zinger or a flurry?
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#2024963 - 12/12/17 06:11 PM Re: sKUm style scheduling. [Re: John_Brown]
58hawk Offline
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Registered: 12/16/09
Loc: KCMO
Mack Brown would be a huge mistake unless you are trying to have the oldest tandem in college football.
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#2024982 - 12/12/17 08:57 PM Re: sKUm scheduling. [Re: tmcats]
John_Brown Offline
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Registered: 08/29/02
Loc: Newton Kansas
Originally Posted By: tmcats
what happened two/three decades ago is probably not germane today.

i believe teams would be better playing weak p5 schools home&home than taking on the ohio's of the world, who oftentimes are better than teams like oregon state, vandy and indiana. if you're going to lose, at least make it to someone in the upper division who you have a chance of beating now and then.

one cupcake should be sufficient. you know, someone like north dakota state.


Completely 'germane'. It's the same reason BillSnyder had the 1981 Independence Bowl trophy hauled outta the KSU football offices in 1989. The idea is to ditch the losing mentality and start a positive vibe around the program. One crappy bowl game in 100 years of football didn't exactly create the positive vibe the Old Man was looking for in 1989. So the reminder disappeared.

I'll bet, though, you could find that trophy nowadays in the back of all the others since 1989.

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#2024983 - 12/12/17 09:05 PM Re: KSuck style scheduling. [Re: kylecof11]
John_Brown Offline
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Registered: 08/29/02
Loc: Newton Kansas
Originally Posted By: kylecof11
Originally Posted By: beenahawk
[quote=kylecof11]First of all, there is a rule that if you play 2 1AA teams a year, then only one counts towards bowl eligibility. So you would have to go at least 7-5 and even then your record would basically be 6-5 in terms of bowl eligibility.




Then what's the point of scheduling another 1AA game, when it wouldn't even count? All teams go for bowl eligibility.


Bowl eligibility while competing in a Big 12 9 game schedule is so far beyond this team's capabilities t that it is somewhat irrational to make that a practical goal. Ws of any sort, avoiding early season injuries and playing the scrubs would be a reasonable goal.

In 1991, I sat there at halftime and listened to Mitch Holtus beg a Sun Bowl representative to consider a 6 win KSU team w/ two Di1aa wins under their belt. The guy said that wasn't possible. But that near upset against UNL in Lincoln under Paul Watson that fall was probably the beginning of the Snyder resurgence. That game came on the heals of the PigFarm pounding a couple of 1aa cupcakes and a win over UNM. I'd take that season over the crapfest we just finished up any old day.

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