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#2023885 - 11/25/17 10:42 AM Tis the season
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Coaching change season is here. Post the changes and rumors. Add any others I missed.

Florida Fired Jim McElwain
UCLA Fired Jim Mora, Chip Kelly Hired
Arkansas fired Bret Bielema
Nebraska fired Mike Riley, Scott Frost Top Candidate
Rumor of Bill Snyder retiring after game today.

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#2023888 - 11/25/17 11:19 AM Re: Tis the season [Re: INation]
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Registered: 11/01/05
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Yet Beatty remains...chicken crap Arkansas fired their coach basically walking off the field after the game yesterday...
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#2023890 - 11/25/17 11:46 AM Re: Tis the season [Re: INation]
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I've heard from legitimate sources that Zenger doesn't have the power to fire Beaty even if he wanted to.

I don't envy Girod's position. Gets Zenger, Beaty, Bowen, Meacham all with at least two more guaranteed years (and ~$8M owed?) within a disastrous program. Plus, nearly no one wants to renew season tickets for next year.
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#2023891 - 11/25/17 12:08 PM Re: Tis the season [Re: dgless21]
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Originally Posted By: dgless21
I've heard from legitimate sources that Zenger doesn't have the power to fire Beaty even if he wanted to.

I don't envy Girod's position. Gets Zenger, Beaty, Bowen, Meacham all with at least two more guaranteed years (and ~$8M owed?) within a disastrous program. Plus, nearly no one wants to renew season tickets for next year.


I can't imagine Meacham staying for another season.

And if Meacham leaves, Jason flips.

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#2023892 - 11/25/17 12:23 PM Re: Tis the season [Re: INation]
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Registered: 09/01/02
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Frost will go to Gainesville if he listens to his head. Nubbers if his heart tugs harder. He would succeed instantly at Fla. His offensive method doesn't translate well to a program that hasn't been relavent in 20 years and can't recruit kids from warmer climates.
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#2023902 - 11/25/17 02:46 PM Re: Tis the season [Re: INation]
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Curious if Campbell will get poached from Iowa State.

Early word is he's a "strong candidate" for Nebraska.

Link: https://nebraska.247sports.com/Bolt/Repo...raska-111067597
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#2023915 - 11/25/17 06:35 PM Re: Tis the season [Re: INation]
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Registered: 11/25/06
Originally Posted By: INation
Coaching change season is here. Post the changes and rumors. Add any others I missed.

Florida Fired Jim McElwain
UCLA Fired Jim Mora, Chip Kelly Hired
Arkansas fired Bret Bielema
Nebraska fired Mike Riley, Scott Frost Top Candidate
Rumor of Bill Snyder retiring after game today.


BS is my pick

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#2023918 - 11/25/17 06:47 PM Re: Tis the season [Re: INation]
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Registered: 12/16/09
Loc: KCMO
I"d take BS in a heartbeat though he barely has one...
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#2023921 - 11/25/17 06:51 PM Re: Tis the season [Re: INation]
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Registered: 09/01/02
Loc: Mc to the Pherson
Would we have to mix up infants hearts in a blender for him to drink to stay alive like they do in Manhattan?
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#2023923 - 11/25/17 06:53 PM Re: Tis the season [Re: INation]
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Registered: 12/16/09
Loc: KCMO
Originally Posted By: INation
Coaching change season is here. Post the changes and rumors. Add any others I missed.

Florida Fired Jim McElwain
UCLA Fired Jim Mora, Chip Kelly Hired
Arkansas fired Bret Bielema
Nebraska fired Mike Riley, Scott Frost Top Candidate
Rumor of Bill Snyder retiring after game today.
Not going to matter so why? Yes I would like Scott Frost if Campbell goes to NU but why bother if nothing is going to happen. Beaty leaves tomorrow for the recruiting trail so we'll see what happens.
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#2023929 - 11/25/17 08:29 PM Re: Tis the season [Re: INation]
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Loc: Denver, CO
Beaty could be practicing still in December but will try to replace his pile of crap team. With Jucos.
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#2023934 - 11/26/17 08:30 AM Re: Tis the season [Re: INation]
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Registered: 08/29/02
Loc: Newton Kansas
How about our own? Meachem/Bowen. I ignored it early on, but the coaching turnover inside of Beaty's regime was an early clue. I almost hope these guys stay through next fall just for stability purposes.

Also, Zenger needs to get off his arse and limit the Jucos right now. The only thing to gain from keeping Beaty one more year is to get the numbers up for the next guy. Honestly one Juco Olineman/one Juco receiver/one Juco qb/one Juco DB would be the limit. Anymore and it's a wasted scholarship.

Rock Chalk Jayhawk, Beat Mizzou

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#2023942 - 11/26/17 09:47 AM Re: Tis the season [Re: INation]
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This season mercifully comes to an end. Now is the time to look past next season to a new regime in 2019. I think I'm going to be ill.
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#2023949 - 11/26/17 10:53 AM Re: Tis the season [Re: INation]
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Loc: Western Kansas Hinderlands
Beaty is staying...sigh
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#2023970 - 11/26/17 04:07 PM Re: Tis the season [Re: INation]
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I just do not get this. There will be 10k in the stands for games. WTF is there to be gained in putting off the inevitable for another year? Jesus.....we are fu(king idiots.
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#2023986 - 11/26/17 07:57 PM Re: Tis the season [Re: INation]
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Loc: Lawrence Beer Co.
Lol @ Tennessee.
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#2023988 - 11/26/17 08:41 PM Re: Tis the season [Re: dgless21]
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Loc: Pittsburgh, PA
Originally Posted By: dgless21
Lol @ Tennessee.


at least they listen to their fanbase

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#2023990 - 11/26/17 09:54 PM Re: Tis the season [Re: tsveach]
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Registered: 11/20/04
Wasn't there a consultant involved with Zenger when Beaty was chosen? Why haven't we heard anything about or from him? There have sure been a whole lot of folks who champion themselves as 'old football' guys it appears but who obviously have little or no clue about the most important qualities of a good coach. Seriously beginning to wonder about Zenger's motives. Might be time to start doing some delving....definitely something unusual/fishy going on.

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#2023996 - 11/27/17 10:33 AM Re: Tis the season [Re: dgless21]
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Registered: 12/12/03
Originally Posted By: dgless21
Lol @ Tennessee.


yeah, UT is SO STOOPID they fired a guy who goes 6-6. We hang onto a guy for dear life after going 3-33. LOL@Tennessee who is LOL@KU, just like the rest of the country

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#2024028 - 11/27/17 04:24 PM Re: Tis the season [Re: INation]
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Registered: 03/27/05
Loc: Lawrence Beer Co.
Well, for all you pouters, I LOL at KU too. Pretty frequently actually.

Extending Zenger was a sad LOL especially after reading that he was guaranteed 1.4M no matter what.

Extending Beaty was a sad LOL because Zenger gave a huge raise to a guy that has one FBS victory.

Guaranteeing Bowen for three years still makes me LOL every time it's brought up in discussion.

Meacham was more qualified than our actual head coach, and it makes me sad to see how quick his previous success was negated here. Hype hype hype. Flop. I LOL.

We got two BIG TIME transfers from Bama. They essentially didn't play. Makes me LOL.

Quiv and Maciah are hyped up as making strides and being good players. Gone from team. I LOL.

We are predictably bad. Saying Beaty and Weis were going to fail is about as simple of a prediction as it gets. No one wanted either.

As was pointed out by others, the AD here is a joke. He has no clue, and he tends to have a terrible grip on reality. I can't say I have high expectations for the stadium, and I certainly don't want involved in anymore coaching hires.

It is what it is. I've shared my concerns and expectations with my WEF rep, the KU Endowment, my ticket sales rep, and the school of business when each calls for money. We chat about how bad football is and we all LOL.



All that being said, watching John Currie and Tennessee struggle is a bit of schadenfreude because misery loves company.
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#2024068 - 11/28/17 11:36 AM Re: Tis the season [Re: dgless21]
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Registered: 12/12/03
LOL

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#2024069 - 11/28/17 11:37 AM Re: Tis the season [Re: INation]
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Registered: 12/12/03
Or maybe it should be COL

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#2024070 - 11/28/17 11:54 AM Re: Tis the season [Re: Jman1]
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Loc: reservation lake, mn
currie's earning every penny of that million dollar contract. what a mess.
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#2024183 - 11/30/17 08:03 AM Re: Tis the season [Re: casey]
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Registered: 08/31/08
Loc: Kansas
Originally Posted By: casey
I can't imagine Meacham staying for another season.

And if Meacham leaves, Jason flips.
Wrong.
Jason committed in large part because of Hull and Beaty, not Meacham.

Also, don't think Meacham is leaving.
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#2024185 - 11/30/17 08:17 AM Re: Tis the season [Re: Kman_blue]
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Registered: 01/18/06
Loc: Topeka,Kansas
Originally Posted By: Kman_blue
Originally Posted By: casey
I can't imagine Meacham staying for another season.

And if Meacham leaves, Jason flips.
Wrong.
Jason committed in large part because of Hull and Beaty, not Meacham.

Also, don't think Meacham is leaving.

What are your thoughts on how the offensive line might make significant improvement next season. Can the current cast of characters ever be good or are there young guys on the team that can step in and elevate the offensive line play next year?

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#2024187 - 11/30/17 09:20 AM Re: Tis the season [Re: track]
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Originally Posted By: track
What are your thoughts on how the offensive line might make significant improvement next season. Can the current cast of characters ever be good or are there young guys on the team that can step in and elevate the offensive line play next year?
Those are some good questions I'm not sure I've got the answers too, but here goes my best guess.

I think we've got at least 4 or 5, younger guys who'll be good but were just too young and inexperienced this year. Not saying they're going to be All-conference type guys, but rather solid IMO. I think they'll improve over the off-season. I would expect them to improve enough to be much more solid next year, but we'll have to wait and see.

I also think there's a chance that Durley, who missed this entire year with an injury, is going to be another solid guy. Him missing this year though probably has set his development back some and I don't have any idea right now how he's recovering from his injury other than he appears to be on schedule.

I'm still worried about the C spot as I'm not sure who's capable of stepping up to be a solid backup to Ribordy (and not having to steal a starter from somewhere else on the OL!) as I think Ribordy is currently our 2nd best OL overall still and will be the starting C again next year.

I'm also a little bit worried about our OG's. I think we've got some guys with potential, but only 2 of those guys played with any consistency this year IMO and a couple guys really struggled.

I think we've got legit talent at both OT spots, but again just no real experience at those spots this year and guys like Adeniji are a rare breed who've got the talent to play as well as he has without hardly any experience much less 2 torn labrums! Guy is just special. I expect that our younger guys at these spots will improve over the off-season, but the question is how much. If Baldwin is magically back on the "active" roster then we might actually be quite good at both OT spots IMO and not just solid(at the RT spot). Not very confident that's going to happen though.
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#2024197 - 11/30/17 12:01 PM Re: Tis the season [Re: Kman_blue]
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any thoughts on how much two shoulder surgeries will set back Adeniji? Have to think those shoulders will be take 6 months to heal before returning to anything meaningful in the weight room....and they will be pretty weak.

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#2024216 - 11/30/17 03:57 PM Re: Tis the season [Re: INation]
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Registered: 05/22/08
Loc: Denver, CO
Baldwin has last been spotted stuck in a Taco Bell drive thru window!!
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#2024217 - 11/30/17 04:00 PM Re: Tis the season [Re: Kman_blue]
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Registered: 05/22/08
Loc: Denver, CO
Originally Posted By: Kman_blue
Originally Posted By: casey
I can't imagine Meacham staying for another season.

And if Meacham leaves, Jason flips.
Wrong.
Jason committed in large part because of Hull and Beaty, not Meacham.

Also, don't think Meacham is leaving.
Casey is full of info today. All incorrect but full of it.
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#2024224 - 11/30/17 05:42 PM Re: Tis the season [Re: track]
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Registered: 08/31/08
Loc: Kansas
Originally Posted By: track
any thoughts on how much two shoulder surgeries will set back Adeniji? Have to think those shoulders will be take 6 months to heal before returning to anything meaningful in the weight room....and they will be pretty weak.
Not well versed on that specific injury, but I imagine the recovery time is somewhere between 6 months and 1 year depending on age, specifics of the tear, kind of shape the patient is in, etc.

Hopefully he'll feel 100% or at leas near that come 1st game next year.
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#2024225 - 11/30/17 05:43 PM Re: Tis the season [Re: KUCO_VOC]
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Registered: 08/31/08
Loc: Kansas
Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
Baldwin has last been spotted stuck in a Taco Bell drive thru window!!
Nah, his issues aren't criminal in nature.
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#2024227 - 11/30/17 06:03 PM Re: Tis the season [Re: Kman_blue]
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Wilt Chamberlain

Registered: 12/16/09
Loc: KCMO
Originally Posted By: Kman_blue
Originally Posted By: casey
I can't imagine Meacham staying for another season.

And if Meacham leaves, Jason flips.
Wrong.
Jason committed in large part because of Hull and Beaty, not Meacham.

Also, don't think Meacham is leaving.
The only reason Meacham would leave is for a head coaching gig and don't think that is going to happen.
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