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#2023197 - 11/10/17 06:42 PM Re: Neal Brown profile [Re: track]
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KU1980

Registered: 05/22/08
Loc: Denver, CO
Originally Posted By: track
Originally Posted By: moose1
Also who is going to be the quarterback? Are Bender or Stanley going to take a magic leap forward because the passage of time? What happened with Crist, Heaps and Cozart? It can't be a new quarterback because they will not have had enough time at KU. It can't be Starks. If he hasn't gotten on the field yet he never will.

Like I said you are delusional.

Better protection and another year in the offense. Hell... Alex Smith is having his best year in year five with Andy Reid offense. Guys get better over time with experience and knowledge. The offensive line will be better giving QB more time to set feet and make good decisions
NFL v KU is a apples v oranges. Or should we get Weis back? Hell!!
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#2023198 - 11/10/17 08:48 PM Re: Neal Brown profile [Re: track]
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Max Falkenstien

Registered: 12/29/06
Loc: Wichita
Originally Posted By: track
Originally Posted By: moose1
Also who is going to be the quarterback? Are Bender or Stanley going to take a magic leap forward because the passage of time? What happened with Crist, Heaps and Cozart? It can't be a new quarterback because they will not have had enough time at KU. It can't be Starks. If he hasn't gotten on the field yet he never will.

Like I said you are delusional.

Better protection and another year in the offense. Hell... Alex Smith is having his best year in year five with Andy Reid offense. Guys get better over time with experience and knowledge. The offensive line will be better giving QB more time to set feet and make good decisions


Hell the offensive line had another year experience and they are WORSE this year. Passage of time does not automatically help. Especially when the coaches are NOT developing players.

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#2023201 - 11/10/17 09:10 PM Re: Neal Brown profile [Re: moose1]
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gale sayers

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Loc: Topeka,Kansas
Hours in the weight room between now and next year along with the natural maturing body of a kid from 19 to 20 years old and the desire to get better will make them improve....even if they receive zero coaching. This isn't rocket science.

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#2023203 - 11/10/17 09:17 PM Re: Neal Brown profile [Re: doolindalton]
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And I'll go out on a limb and say that if Beaty is back we win less than 3 games.
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#2023208 - 11/10/17 10:27 PM Re: Neal Brown profile [Re: KUHawkhead]
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gale sayers

Registered: 01/18/06
Loc: Topeka,Kansas
Originally Posted By: KUHawkhead
And I'll go out on a limb and say that if Beaty is back we win less than 3 games.


....2 wins would double our number of wins this year. That's a huge improvement in one year. Sounds like another contract extension and pay boost is coming if you are right.

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#2023209 - 11/10/17 11:38 PM Re: Neal Brown profile [Re: track]
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Registered: 09/20/14
Track, If you believe all that BS you said in this post please explain to us how a younger, less experienced, winless Baylor team with a first year HC blew us out at home?

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#2023215 - 11/11/17 09:20 AM Re: Neal Brown profile [Re: INation]
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gale sayers

Registered: 01/18/06
Loc: Topeka,Kansas
I don't know that I believe what I have posted but it's a argument one could make. Comparing us to Baylor is not a legitimate argument. Baylor is far ahead of us in their facilities...an indoor football facility for practices and a new stadium. We are at least 5 to 8 years behind in that regard. Baylor went to a bowl last year...we haven't gone to one in a decade. Baylor has been top 40 or better in recruiting classes the last 4 years..we have been in the top 80. If you are a texas kid....you want to go to baylor or kansas...facilities and recent success...no comparison,.... kids don't care about all that other stuff. Our coach was fired...their coach was fired. They hired a coach with a proven track record as a head coach....we have one that is learning on the job. They played OU tough....scoring 41 points on them and losing by a touchdown. We will lose by more than 41 most likely. They played west virginia a lot closer than we did. They have a future NFL receiver and an accurate throwing QB. We have a secondary that is young and unable to perform assignments. You get the point. Even though Baylor has a bad record this year and a young team....they have recruited better athletes the last 4 years according to the recruiting services. They have recent history of being an elite program in the Big 12. Advantage baylor in all categories.

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#2023216 - 11/11/17 09:41 AM Re: Neal Brown profile [Re: track]
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KU1980

Registered: 05/22/08
Loc: Denver, CO
Originally Posted By: track
Originally Posted By: KUHawkhead
And I'll go out on a limb and say that if Beaty is back we win less than 3 games.


....2 wins would double our number of wins this year. That's a huge improvement in one year. Sounds like another contract extension and pay boost is coming if you are right.
Two HC's in 2018 would be fired as well. And an AD.
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#2023219 - 11/11/17 11:56 AM Re: Neal Brown profile [Re: doolindalton]
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I would be highly disappointed if we didn't try and get Troy Calhoun. He is 81-58 at airforce, not the easiest place to win games. Would bring some much-needed discipline to our football team.

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#2023220 - 11/11/17 12:01 PM Re: Neal Brown profile [Re: track]
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Max Falkenstien

Registered: 12/29/06
Loc: Wichita
Originally Posted By: track
Originally Posted By: KUHawkhead
And I'll go out on a limb and say that if Beaty is back we win less than 3 games.


....2 wins would double our number of wins this year. That's a huge improvement in one year. Sounds like another contract extension and pay boost is coming if you are right.


Ok so by thar way of thinking this year is a big step back.

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#2023221 - 11/11/17 12:10 PM Re: Neal Brown profile [Re: track]
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Max Falkenstien

Registered: 12/29/06
Loc: Wichita
Originally Posted By: track
Hours in the weight room between now and next year along with the natural maturing body of a kid from 19 to 20 years old and the desire to get better will make them improve....even if they receive zero coaching. This isn't rocket science.


Ok so what about this last off season? Why have they gotten worse? There should be some improvement.

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#2023223 - 11/11/17 01:09 PM Re: Neal Brown profile [Re: moose1]
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gale sayers

Registered: 01/18/06
Loc: Topeka,Kansas
you have heard the old expression....two steps forward(last year compared to the first year) and one step back...this year was our one step back....next year will be our 2 steps forward. wooohooo....keep choppin wood.

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#2023224 - 11/11/17 01:25 PM Re: Neal Brown profile [Re: doolindalton]
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Registered: 05/22/08
Loc: Denver, CO
With as down as we are, the linear progression track believes in is not likely. This is football, not a math equation or square dancing. Beaty has no plans beyond cashing his fat checks.
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#2023228 - 11/11/17 02:31 PM Re: Neal Brown profile [Re: KUCO_VOC]
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Registered: 10/28/13
Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
With as down as we are, the linear progression track believes in is not likely. This is football, not a math equation or square dancing. Beaty has no plans beyond cashing his fat checks.


I actually believe that Beaty had a plan but the problem is that he lacks the knowledge,experience,ability to implement the plan

his inability to put together a competent staff, bad game planning going into the week and worse game day decisions, inability to develop talent have all led to our 3-33 record in his 3 years and this level of futility will continue as long as he remains here

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#2023231 - 11/11/17 02:47 PM Re: Neal Brown profile [Re: KUCO_VOC]
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gale sayers

Registered: 01/18/06
Loc: Topeka,Kansas
Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
With as down as we are, the linear progression track believes in is not likely. This is football, not a math equation or square dancing. Beaty has no plans beyond cashing his fat checks.

chop chop chop

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