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#2021413 - 10/07/17 01:00 PM Does Bowen get fired before seasons end?
Jhawktalk Offline
Baby Jay

Registered: 01/27/13
Or does it come at the end of the season......Or does he get to keep his job and we get to continue to be the longest running embarrassment of the NCAA? There's no reason he should be working on the staff after today.

Currently down 35-7 with 2 min left in the 1st half.


Edited by Jhawktalk (10/07/17 01:01 PM)

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#2021416 - 10/07/17 02:38 PM Re: Does Bowen get fired before seasons end? [Re: Jhawktalk]
moose1 Offline
Max Falkenstien

Registered: 12/29/06
Loc: Wichita
You mean does Beaty get fired? More games like this he will. Yes the defense has been bad, but the offense has been just as bad. This is going backwards. A few more games like this, and KU will clean house.

Oh and I am guessing KU will have a couple more players decommit after todays game.

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#2021417 - 10/07/17 02:39 PM Re: Does Bowen get fired before seasons end? [Re: Jhawktalk]
dgless21 Online   mad
Local Deity

Registered: 03/27/05
Loc: Lawrence Beer Co.
Beaty can't get fired before Zenger, so Bowen will be the scapegoat if they all three don't go together.
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#2021418 - 10/07/17 02:42 PM Re: Does Bowen get fired before seasons end? [Re: dgless21]
moose1 Offline
Max Falkenstien

Registered: 12/29/06
Loc: Wichita
Originally Posted By: dgless21
Beaty can't get fired before Zenger, so Bowen will be the scapegoat if they all three don't go together.


Then they are all gone if things keep up.

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#2021419 - 10/07/17 02:43 PM Re: Does Bowen get fired before seasons end? [Re: Jhawktalk]
KUCO_VOC Offline
KU1980

Registered: 05/22/08
Loc: Denver, CO
To add to the embarrassment, FS1 just pulled the TV plug on the game.
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#2021425 - 10/07/17 03:08 PM Re: Does Bowen get fired before seasons end? [Re: moose1]
pizzanbeer Offline
Max Falkenstien

Registered: 07/03/09
No, I think they wait until after the season.

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#2021426 - 10/07/17 03:30 PM Re: Does Bowen get fired before seasons end? [Re: Jhawktalk]
casey Offline
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Registered: 04/06/08
Loc: elsewhere
Bowen is done. He won't make it to Tuesday.

I don't think that's entirely fair, since there is ample blame to spread around, starting with Z's hiring of Charlie Weis. But with the $350 million fundraising thing quickly turning into an embarrassment, someone is going to have to be sacrificed. Bowen is the easy scapegoat.

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#2021429 - 10/07/17 03:41 PM Re: Does Bowen get fired before seasons end? [Re: Jhawktalk]
Jman1 Offline
Big Dipper

Registered: 12/12/03
Well. to Bowen's credit, he did take an all-Big XII defensive lineman and turn him into a namby pamby. So according to KUFB standards, he gets a contract extension through 2024

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#2021431 - 10/07/17 03:57 PM Re: Does Bowen get fired before seasons end? [Re: Jhawktalk]
dgless21 Online   mad
Local Deity

Registered: 03/27/05
Loc: Lawrence Beer Co.
Who replaces each?

Obviously Kane is the easy idea for Bowen...

Who you got for Beaty, Zenger?
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#2021433 - 10/07/17 04:27 PM Re: Does Bowen get fired before seasons end? [Re: moose1]
vmlb Offline
Wilt Chamberlain

Registered: 11/25/06
Originally Posted By: moose1
You mean does Beaty get fired? More games like this he will. Yes the defense has been bad, but the offense has been just as bad. This is going backwards. A few more games like this, and KU will clean house.

Oh and I am guessing KU will have a couple more players decommit after todays game.


Firing Bowen won't solve anything. I agree with Moose. If we played a game KU offense vs. KU defense, the defense would win.
Year 1 under DB we are bad, but I have hope for the future. One reason is we had a starting QB coming back. WRONG, DB decides Willis should not be the starter.
Year two: replay of year one. No, the starter was not awarded for his on field performance during the year. Instead we enter year three with competition at the QB position.Again the ch0ose of who should be the team leader through the off season was wrong.

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#2021435 - 10/07/17 04:41 PM Re: Does Bowen get fired before seasons end? [Re: vmlb]
casey Offline
hello

Registered: 04/06/08
Loc: elsewhere
Originally Posted By: vmlb
Originally Posted By: moose1
You mean does Beaty get fired? More games like this he will. Yes the defense has been bad, but the offense has been just as bad. This is going backwards. A few more games like this, and KU will clean house.

Oh and I am guessing KU will have a couple more players decommit after todays game.


Firing Bowen won't solve anything. I agree with Moose. If we played a game KU offense vs. KU defense, the defense would win.
Year 1 under DB we are bad, but I have hope for the future. One reason is we had a starting QB coming back. WRONG, DB decides Willis should not be the starter.
Year two: replay of year one. No, the starter was not awarded for his on field performance during the year. Instead we enter year three with competition at the QB position.Again the ch0ose of who should be the team leader through the off season was wrong.


I agree the D has frequently been cornered by the O this season. Too many short fields for Bowen's boys to defend.

But nobody has accused KAI of making a logical football decision in a decade.

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#2021440 - 10/07/17 05:14 PM Re: Does Bowen get fired before seasons end? [Re: vmlb]
Jman1 Offline
Big Dipper

Registered: 12/12/03
Originally Posted By: vmlb
Originally Posted By: moose1
You mean does Beaty get fired? More games like this he will. Yes the defense has been bad, but the offense has been just as bad. This is going backwards. A few more games like this, and KU will clean house.

Oh and I am guessing KU will have a couple more players decommit after todays game.


Firing Bowen won't solve anything. I agree with Moose. If we played a game KU offense vs. KU defense, the defense would win.
Year 1 under DB we are bad, but I have hope for the future. One reason is we had a starting QB coming back. WRONG, DB decides Willis should not be the starter.
Year two: replay of year one. No, the starter was not awarded for his on field performance during the year. Instead we enter year three with competition at the QB position.Again the ch0ose of who should be the team leader through the off season was wrong.


I think the spring game showed that both are horrendous. The O seems to be making some progress. The D not so much

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#2021441 - 10/07/17 05:16 PM Re: Does Bowen get fired before seasons end? [Re: casey]
Jman1 Offline
Big Dipper

Registered: 12/12/03
Originally Posted By: casey
Originally Posted By: vmlb
Originally Posted By: moose1
You mean does Beaty get fired? More games like this he will. Yes the defense has been bad, but the offense has been just as bad. This is going backwards. A few more games like this, and KU will clean house.

Oh and I am guessing KU will have a couple more players decommit after todays game.


Firing Bowen won't solve anything. I agree with Moose. If we played a game KU offense vs. KU defense, the defense would win.
Year 1 under DB we are bad, but I have hope for the future. One reason is we had a starting QB coming back. WRONG, DB decides Willis should not be the starter.
Year two: replay of year one. No, the starter was not awarded for his on field performance during the year. Instead we enter year three with competition at the QB position.Again the ch0ose of who should be the team leader through the off season was wrong.


I agree the D has frequently been cornered by the O this season. Too many short fields for Bowen's boys to defend.

But nobody has accused KAI of making a logical football decision in a decade.


That is complete BS. These teams march down the field in 2 minutes of game time and score to make it 21 Zip before the 7 minute mark of the first quarter. Now the KAI and athletic department are just as inept, in this situation. And you, Casey made the perfect statement: "for Bowen's boys to defend." Boys is the operative word


Edited by Jman1 (10/07/17 05:20 PM)

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#2021444 - 10/07/17 05:48 PM Re: Does Bowen get fired before seasons end? [Re: vmlb]
pizzanbeer Offline
Max Falkenstien

Registered: 07/03/09
Originally Posted By: vmlb
Firing Bowen won't solve anything. I agree with Moose. If we played a game KU offense vs. KU defense, the defense would win.
Year 1 under DB we are bad, but I have hope for the future. One reason is we had a starting QB coming back. WRONG, DB decides Willis should not be the starter.


TT put up 65 points and 603 yards of offense. Bowen has to go.

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#2021445 - 10/07/17 05:55 PM Re: Does Bowen get fired before seasons end? [Re: pizzanbeer]
track Offline
gale sayers

Registered: 01/18/06
Loc: Topeka,Kansas
Originally Posted By: pizzanbeer
Originally Posted By: vmlb
Firing Bowen won't solve anything. I agree with Moose. If we played a game KU offense vs. KU defense, the defense would win.
Year 1 under DB we are bad, but I have hope for the future. One reason is we had a starting QB coming back. WRONG, DB decides Willis should not be the starter.


TT put up 65 points and 603 yards of offense. Bowen has to go.

Watch the game.... in almost every situation where one of ours was competing against one of theirs we lost the individual matchup. ... no matter whether it was on offense or defense. This team sucks. The coaches suck and the players suck. Nothing has changed since Gills first year. I don’t get it. Bowen worked under mason and mangino and Beaty worked under mangino. It shouldn’t be this hard to build a program that is at least competitive. I agree Bowen sucks... but so does the entire team and coaching staff.


Edited by track (10/07/17 05:56 PM)

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#2021460 - 10/07/17 09:22 PM Re: Does Bowen get fired before seasons end? [Re: Jhawktalk]
dgless21 Online   mad
Local Deity

Registered: 03/27/05
Loc: Lawrence Beer Co.
Zenger is in charge of the staff, and he's a clown.
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#2021466 - 10/07/17 10:28 PM Re: Does Bowen get fired before seasons end? [Re: dgless21]
Goober Offline
Crimson & Blue Blood

Registered: 11/17/09
I've driven 330 miles one way to watch this year. Twice. I used to be a season ticket holder. Went to the Orange bowl. Gave up the season tickets when my son played college ball 4 years. I was optimistic for this year. I'm certainly off the bandwagon after today. We can't cover anybody. The two qb's swapping mid series even when we were moving the ball. It's obvious, once again, we need to hit reset. That sucks, but how much lower can we go? I think the cupboard isn't nearly as empty as when Beaty took the job. They just can't coach to a Power 5 level. I was willing to blame Bowen for most of our failures, as I thought the offense was good enough to win some games. Not after what I saw today. They're all part of the problem. Spend the money the next time we hire a coach and get a proven, experienced winner. Commit to winning.

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#2021467 - 10/07/17 11:06 PM Re: Does Bowen get fired before seasons end? [Re: Jhawktalk]
KUCO_VOC Offline
KU1980

Registered: 05/22/08
Loc: Denver, CO
Goober finally admits what I’ve said all along. A HS coach can’t suddenly become a P5 D1 successful HC. Said it all along.
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#2021474 - 10/08/17 11:25 AM Re: Does Bowen get fired before seasons end? [Re: Jhawktalk]
Kman_blue Offline
Wilt Chamberlain

Registered: 08/31/08
Loc: Kansas
Originally Posted By: Jhawktalk
Or does it come at the end of the season......Or does he get to keep his job and we get to continue to be the longest running embarrassment of the NCAA? There's no reason he should be working on the staff after today.

Currently down 35-7 with 2 min left in the 1st half.
I think he's done enough to be fired effectively immediately, but I don't think they'll fire him. Not convinced they'll fire him after the season, unless some of the big money donors put pressure on Zenger to make it happen. Heard an off handed comment yesterday that may suggest 1 may be already at that point. so maybe it'll happen.
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#2021479 - 10/08/17 05:08 PM Re: Does Bowen get fired before seasons end? [Re: Jhawktalk]
bigdogjac Offline
Wilt Chamberlain

Registered: 05/11/10
Loc: Oklahoma
You don't run up the middle for 10 yds untouched time after time. Rushing was supposed to be their weakness. Where where our LB's?
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#2021480 - 10/08/17 06:00 PM Re: Does Bowen get fired before seasons end? [Re: bigdogjac]
KUCO_VOC Offline
KU1980

Registered: 05/22/08
Loc: Denver, CO
Originally Posted By: bigdogjac
You don't run up the middle for 10 yds untouched time after time. Rushing was supposed to be their weakness. Where where our LB's?
My disdain of Beaty is what you are now understanding as he is not a P5 D1 HC. Sooner we go towards picking up a real head coach the better.
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#2021485 - 10/08/17 07:51 PM Re: Does Bowen get fired before seasons end? [Re: KUCO_VOC]
Jman1 Offline
Big Dipper

Registered: 12/12/03
Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
Goober finally admits what I’ve said all along. A HS coach can’t suddenly become a P5 D1 successful HC. Said it all along.


Gerry Faust, anyone?

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#2021486 - 10/08/17 07:56 PM Re: Does Bowen get fired before seasons end? [Re: bigdogjac]
Jman1 Offline
Big Dipper

Registered: 12/12/03
Originally Posted By: bigdogjac
You don't run up the middle for 10 yds untouched time after time. Rushing was supposed to be their weakness. Where where our LB's?


Well. if you want to call them that, they were sipping lemonade and having crumpets with the girls from the I Wanna Date a Loser sorority and watching on TV

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#2021487 - 10/08/17 08:10 PM Re: Does Bowen get fired before seasons end? [Re: Jman1]
Goober Offline
Crimson & Blue Blood

Registered: 11/17/09
Shadup KUCO!! You'll say that regardless whom they hire. Unless they go 19-0 and win the National Championship. Even then you'll have some dumbass post to bring attention back around to yourself.

They need to figure out on, on this site, when you block some idiot, you can't see their dumbassedness when they post on somebody else.


Edited by Goober (10/08/17 08:15 PM)

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#2021488 - 10/08/17 08:19 PM Re: Does Bowen get fired before seasons end? [Re: bigdogjac]
vmlb Offline
Wilt Chamberlain

Registered: 11/25/06
Originally Posted By: bigdogjac
You don't run up the middle for 10 yds untouched time after time. Rushing was supposed to be their weakness. Where where our LB's?



Yea, aren't they NAIA All Americans?

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#2021493 - 10/08/17 09:12 PM Re: Does Bowen get fired before seasons end? [Re: Goober]
KUCO_VOC Offline
KU1980

Registered: 05/22/08
Loc: Denver, CO
Originally Posted By: Goober
Shadup KUCO!! You'll say that regardless whom they hire. Unless they go 19-0 and win the National Championship. Even then you'll have some dumbass post to bring attention back around to yourself.

They need to figure out on, on this site, when you block some idiot, you can't see their dumbassedness when they post on somebody else.
Gobbles is upset b/c I was correct about Beaty. I don’t think Saban is my ideal, just ISU is my real goal. Be competitive is what I want.
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#2021535 - 10/10/17 11:25 AM Re: Does Bowen get fired before seasons end? [Re: casey]
casey Offline
hello

Registered: 04/06/08
Loc: elsewhere
Originally Posted By: casey
Bowen is done. He won't make it to Tuesday.

I don't think that's entirely fair, since there is ample blame to spread around, starting with Z's hiring of Charlie Weis. But with the $350 million fundraising thing quickly turning into an embarrassment, someone is going to have to be sacrificed. Bowen is the easy scapegoat.


I got this wrong. I wonder if Booth's enormous gift is conditioned on keeping all the current coaches and AD in place.

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#2021537 - 10/10/17 12:06 PM Re: Does Bowen get fired before seasons end? [Re: casey]
Kman_blue Offline
Wilt Chamberlain

Registered: 08/31/08
Loc: Kansas
Don't think so, but I also don't think Beaty is going to fire Bowen without orders from the top to do so.

Not sure what good it would do to fire Bowen mid-season either, unless you've got someone with some solid P-5 level experience who needs a job to immediately come and fill in for the rest of the year.
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#2021545 - 10/10/17 01:24 PM Re: Does Bowen get fired before seasons end? [Re: casey]
PbBut Offline
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Registered: 10/30/04
Loc: 66227
Originally Posted By: casey

I got this wrong. I wonder if Booth's enormous gift is conditioned on keeping all the current coaches and AD in place.


I suppose anything is possible, but under what scenario do you envision a guy with Booth's success putting up with this kind of performance in his business? And why would he want his name associated with and empty stadium?


Edited by PbBut (10/10/17 01:25 PM)
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#2021547 - 10/10/17 02:18 PM Re: Does Bowen get fired before seasons end? [Re: Jhawktalk]
dgless21 Online   mad
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There's no room for football in the Booth Hall of Athletics.
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#2021548 - 10/10/17 02:20 PM Re: Does Bowen get fired before seasons end? [Re: PbBut]
casey Offline
hello

Registered: 04/06/08
Loc: elsewhere
Originally Posted By: PbBut
Originally Posted By: casey

I got this wrong. I wonder if Booth's enormous gift is conditioned on keeping all the current coaches and AD in place.


I suppose anything is possible, but under what scenario do you envision a guy with Booth's success putting up with this kind of performance in his business? And why would he want his name associated with and empty stadium?


Booth's gift is irrational. So was BGL's last minute extension of Z. These are curious times at KAI.

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