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#2020991 - 09/27/17 10:15 AM Beaty: "I don't believe in victories"
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Or in starting Stanley over Bender.
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#2020999 - 09/27/17 01:40 PM Re: Beaty: "I don't believe in victories" [Re: KUCO_VOC]
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I mean come on. You are so ignorant. You probably made this thread and laughed to yourself. This makes no sense on any term.

First of all, quote someone correctly.

Second, not one thing this season has shown that Stanley is healthy. Oh and by the way, Bender is throwing for 300 yards a game. He's not really a slouch back there.
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#2021000 - 09/27/17 02:10 PM Re: Beaty: "I don't believe in victories" [Re: KUCO_VOC]
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Bender isn't the problem. The defense is the problem.

Can Stanley play as a DB?
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#2021002 - 09/27/17 02:59 PM Re: Beaty: "I don't believe in victories" [Re: kylecof11]
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Originally Posted By: kylecof11
I mean come on. You are so ignorant. You probably made this thread and laughed to yourself. This makes no sense on any term.

First of all, quote someone correctly.

Second, not one thing this season has shown that Stanley is healthy. Oh and by the way, Bender is throwing for 300 yards a game. He's not really a slouch back there.
First, Bender is a turnover machine, historically. And slow to get his plays completed at times. Secondly, I believe in wins as a judge of who is successful.
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#2021003 - 09/27/17 03:34 PM Re: Beaty: "I don't believe in victories" [Re: KUCO_VOC]
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Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
[/quote]First, Bender is a turnover machine, historically. And slow to get his plays completed at times. Secondly, I believe in wins as a judge of who is successful.

With such a terrible defense it really hurts our chances to have a QB that takes too many negative plays and turns it over too much. Which I think was the main reason why we were more competitive last year under Stanley.

I'd give Bender 1 or 2 more games to prove he can manage a game better and if not, IF Stanley is healthy- then go Stanley the rest of the way

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#2021004 - 09/27/17 03:43 PM Re: Beaty: "I don't believe in victories" [Re: KUCO_VOC]
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Bender was at Wash St in his first year of college, had to take over for a bowl bound team. Threw too my INTs in his five games starting. Just for reference...
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#2021005 - 09/27/17 04:26 PM Re: Beaty: "I don't believe in victories" [Re: kylecof11]
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Originally Posted By: kylecof11
I mean come on. You are so ignorant. You probably made this thread and laughed to yourself. This makes no sense on any term.

First of all, quote someone correctly.

Second, not one thing this season has shown that Stanley is healthy. Oh and by the way, Bender is throwing for 300 yards a game. He's not really a slouch back there.


Bender is performing as well as Cozart and Meiers were last year.

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#2021012 - 09/27/17 11:51 PM Re: Beaty: "I don't believe in victories" [Re: vmlb]
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Originally Posted By: vmlb
Originally Posted By: kylecof11
I mean come on. You are so ignorant. You probably made this thread and laughed to yourself. This makes no sense on any term.

First of all, quote someone correctly.

Second, not one thing this season has shown that Stanley is healthy. Oh and by the way, Bender is throwing for 300 yards a game. He's not really a slouch back there.


Bender is performing as well as Cozart and Meiers were last year.
Meier?

You mean Meier's last year at QB or Willis from last year?
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#2021013 - 09/28/17 01:12 AM Re: Beaty: "I don't believe in victories" [Re: vmlb]
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Just for comparison to last year and this year.

Cozart threw for 1075 yards with 7TD's and 9INT's with a QB rating of 108.6.

Willis threw for 811 yards with 3TD's and 7INT's with a QB rating of 116.3.

Combined they went for 1886yards, 10TD's and 16INT's for a combined QB rating of 111.5

Bender so far has thrown for 1227yards, 7TD's and 7INT's for a QB rating of 120.3.

So, Bender is noticeably better than either Willis or Cozart from last year and better than both of them combined as well.


Stanley for reference, threw for 959 yards last year, 6 TD's, and 6 INT's with a QB rating of 116.3. The same QB rating Willis had.

We've gone from 236 yards passing per game to 307.
From 1.33 passing TD's per game to 1.75.
From 1.83 INT's per game to 1.75.

The passing game is better. Still needs improvement though, mostly cutting down on the INT's.
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#2021015 - 09/28/17 01:18 AM Re: Beaty: "I don't believe in victories" [Re: vmlb]
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Just in case VMLB was really talking about Kerry Meier, he threw for 1193 yards, 13 TD's, and 10 INT's in his only year starting at QB for the entire year for a QB rating of 123.4.
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#2021016 - 09/28/17 01:18 AM Re: Beaty: "I don't believe in victories" [Re: KUCO_VOC]
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Cutting down on INT's and sacks. He did a better job with that last week. He still needs better escapability and just extend the play.

The other thing he needs to do is settle down earlier. He is so amped up that he makes mistakes early on.

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#2021026 - 09/28/17 01:01 PM Re: Beaty: "I don't believe in victories" [Re: KUCO_VOC]
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Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
Bender was at Wash St in his first year of college, had to take over for a bowl bound team. Threw too my INTs in his five games starting. Just for reference...


He started 1 game and that was against Washington where he threw for 288 with a TD and 2 INTs.

But you know, uneducated fans think Bender is the problem. Newsflash, he is not. An unhealthy Stanley would be the opposite of what this program needs.


Edited by kylecof11 (09/28/17 01:01 PM)
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#2021027 - 09/28/17 01:28 PM Re: Beaty: "I don't believe in victories" [Re: KUCO_VOC]
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He doesn't need your facts. He has his own manufactured BS.

Don't quote the troll.
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#2021031 - 09/28/17 02:26 PM Re: Beaty: "I don't believe in victories" [Re: vmlb]
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Also, just for reference, Reesing's career QB rating was 144.0.

His highest QB rating year was the Orange Bowl year where he had a QB rating of 150.6. He threw for 3486 yards, 33 TD's and had only 3 INT's that year on 446 passing attempts with 276 completions.

Him playing hurt his Senior year really drug down his career QB rating, as he'd probably have a QB rating of around 150 for his career otherwise IMHO.

Comparing his career average numbers outside of his very brief true Freshman year, he averaged 289 yards, about 2 1/2 TD's and 38 pass attempts per game, and threw about 3 picks for every 4 games or 1 INT per every 48 pass attempts.
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#2021032 - 09/28/17 03:08 PM Re: Beaty: "I don't believe in victories" [Re: kylecof11]
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Originally Posted By: kylecof11
Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
Bender was at Wash St in his first year of college, had to take over for a bowl bound team. Threw too my INTs in his five games starting. Just for reference...


He started 1 game and that was against Washington where he threw for 288 with a TD and 2 INTs.

But you know, uneducated fans think Bender is the problem. Newsflash, he is not. An unhealthy Stanley would be the opposite of what this program needs.
https://www.seattletimes.com/sports/wsu-...s-in-apple-cup/

I MEANT Bender played in five games that year. My bad for saying STARTED five games. So, that's all you took away from my facts? Jeesus...

So, how many TDs and INTs for that year? More than 1 & 2, respectively.

Oh, he fumbled twice in the one game he started BTW. You forgot to mention the relevant facts, dude.
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#2021033 - 09/28/17 03:09 PM Re: Beaty: "I don't believe in victories" [Re: dgless21]
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Originally Posted By: dgless21
He doesn't need your facts. He has his own manufactured BS.
I get it from reading your drivel.
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#2021034 - 09/28/17 03:40 PM Re: Beaty: "I don't believe in victories" [Re: dgless21]
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Originally Posted By: dgless21
Bender isn't the problem. The defense is the problem.

Can Stanley play as a DB?


I'll second this. If we can get 3 more stops a game outta the defense, Bender/Herbert can win games.

Rock Chalk Jayhawk, Beat Mizzou

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#2021035 - 09/28/17 04:03 PM Re: Beaty: "I don't believe in victories" [Re: KUCO_VOC]
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Ha! WVU punted 5 times the entire game. At least two of those were due to WVU dropping open passes on third down.

The pick six didn't help. Can't remember the last interception.

The fumble, IMO, was questionable. I certainly didn't see anything from my vantage point that made it a clear fumble or clear recovery.
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#2021040 - 09/28/17 06:36 PM Re: Beaty: "I don't believe in victories" [Re: John_Brown]
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Originally Posted By: John_Brown
Originally Posted By: dgless21
Bender isn't the problem. The defense is the problem.

Can Stanley play as a DB?


I'll second this. If we can get 3 more stops a game outta the defense, Bender/Herbert can win games.

Rock Chalk Jayhawk, Beat Mizzou
His bowl game against Washington resulted in 2 INTs & 2 fumbles. Oh, he will never do that again.
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#2021042 - 09/28/17 06:45 PM Re: Beaty: "I don't believe in victories" [Re: kylecof11]
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Originally Posted By: kylecof11
Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
Bender was at Wash St in his first year of college, had to take over for a bowl bound team. Threw too my INTs in his five games starting. Just for reference...


He started 1 game and that was against Washington where he threw for 288 with a TD and 2 INTs.

But you know, uneducated fans think Bender is the problem. Newsflash, he is not. An unhealthy Stanley would be the opposite of what this program needs.
If I'm uneducated, you're a dicless wonder
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#2021091 - 09/29/17 05:12 PM Re: Beaty: "I don't believe in victories" [Re: KUCO_VOC]
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He flunked out of WSU and so why is Bender the savior for Kansas, Kyle?

Bender may be the uneducated one...
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#2021166 - 09/30/17 06:56 PM Re: Beaty: "I don't believe in victories" [Re: KUCO_VOC]
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Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
Or in starting Stanley over Bender.
Source for your post topic?
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#2021172 - 09/30/17 07:26 PM Re: Beaty: "I don't believe in victories" [Re: Kman_blue]
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Originally Posted By: Kman_blue
Originally Posted By: vmlb
Originally Posted By: kylecof11
I mean come on. You are so ignorant. You probably made this thread and laughed to yourself. This makes no sense on any term.

First of all, quote someone correctly.

Second, not one thing this season has shown that Stanley is healthy. Oh and by the way, Bender is throwing for 300 yards a game. He's not really a slouch back there.


Bender is performing as well as Cozart and Meiers were last year.
Meier?

You mean Meier's last year at QB or Willis from last year?


Sorry, meant Willis. Terrible with names, too lazy to look it up.

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#2021201 - 10/01/17 09:33 AM Re: Beaty: "I don't believe in victories" [Re: 58hawk]
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Originally Posted By: 58hawk
Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
Or in starting Stanley over Bender.
Source for your post topic?
Article ran on a website called kusportsdotcom, surprised you didn't see the headline!
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#2021233 - 10/02/17 07:00 PM Re: Beaty: "I don't believe in victories" [Re: KUCO_VOC]
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All I know is that he recently said he is getting tired of "moral victories".
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#2021237 - 10/02/17 10:12 PM Re: Beaty: "I don't believe in victories" [Re: 58hawk]
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Originally Posted By: 58hawk
All I know is that he recently said he is getting tired of "moral victories".
source?
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#2021240 - 10/02/17 11:18 PM Re: Beaty: "I don't believe in victories" [Re: KUCO_VOC]
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Yes, he said he doesn't believe in moral victories. It's another thing coaches say when they are circling the drain.

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#2021241 - 10/03/17 12:01 AM Re: Beaty: "I don't believe in victories" [Re: Kirk]
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Originally Posted By: Kirk
Yes, he said he doesn't believe in moral victories. It's another thing coaches say when they are circling the drain.
Fanbase as well.
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#2021245 - 10/03/17 11:35 AM Re: Beaty: "I don't believe in victories" [Re: 58hawk]
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Originally Posted By: 58hawk
All I know is that he recently said he is getting tired of "moral victories".


So then, it stands to reason, he believes in "moral losses".

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#2021304 - 10/03/17 11:14 PM Re: Beaty: "I don't believe in victories" [Re: KUCO_VOC]
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Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
He flunked out of WSU and so why is Bender the savior for Kansas, Kyle?

Bender may be the uneducated one...
Guess I can ask Bender at Bullwinkles next time he is there if he feels like a winner yet (or uneducated), Dad gummite!
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#2021316 - 10/04/17 02:03 PM Re: Beaty: "I don't believe in victories" [Re: KUCO_VOC]
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Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
Originally Posted By: 58hawk
All I know is that he recently said he is getting tired of "moral victories".
source?
JW.
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#2021317 - 10/04/17 02:05 PM Re: Beaty: "I don't believe in victories" [Re: 58hawk]
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Originally Posted By: 58hawk
Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
Originally Posted By: 58hawk
All I know is that he recently said he is getting tired of "moral victories".
source?
JW.
http://www2.kusports.com/news/2017/sep/26/beaty-i-dont-believe-moral-victories/?football
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#2021319 - 10/04/17 02:16 PM Re: Beaty: "I don't believe in victories" [Re: KUCO_VOC]
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Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
Or in starting Stanley over Bender
You left off "moral". But that is typical of you. Just like a right-wing Republican that likes to distort the facts to benefit them. Beaty never said that and you know that because you left off the "moral" word in the headline.
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#2021321 - 10/04/17 03:05 PM Re: Beaty: "I don't believe in victories" [Re: 58hawk]
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Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
Or in starting Stanley over Bender
You left off "moral". But that is typical of you. Just like a right-wing Republican that likes to distort the facts to benefit them. Beaty never said that and you know that because you left off the "moral" word in the headline.


Beaty clearly misspoke. All evidence shows that he clearly doesn't believe in victories.
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#2021323 - 10/04/17 03:10 PM Re: Beaty: "I don't believe in victories" [Re: KUCO_VOC]
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What evidence shows that?
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#2021326 - 10/04/17 03:57 PM Re: Beaty: "I don't believe in victories" [Re: dgless21]
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Originally Posted By: dgless21
What evidence shows that?


3-25

Tag teaming dgless is fun.

58 - I moved to Colorado for a reason in the 1980’s, and it is not to be a right wing nut. So sorry I don’t fit your image.
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#2021329 - 10/04/17 04:57 PM Re: Beaty: "I don't believe in victories" [Re: JimWest]
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Originally Posted By: JimWest
Originally Posted By: 58hawk
Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
Or in starting Stanley over Bender
You left off "moral". But that is typical of you. Just like a right-wing Republican that likes to distort the facts to benefit them. Beaty never said that and you know that because you left off the "moral" word in the headline.


Beaty clearly misspoke. All evidence shows that he clearly doesn't believe in victories.
Source?
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#2021332 - 10/04/17 05:06 PM Re: Beaty: "I don't believe in victories" [Re: 58hawk]
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Originally Posted By: 58hawk
Originally Posted By: JimWest
Originally Posted By: 58hawk
Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
Or in starting Stanley over Bender
You left off "moral". But that is typical of you. Just like a right-wing Republican that likes to distort the facts to benefit them. Beaty never said that and you know that because you left off the "moral" word in the headline.


Beaty clearly misspoke. All evidence shows that he clearly doesn't believe in victories.
Source?
NCAA record 3-25. Look it up
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#2021333 - 10/04/17 05:07 PM Re: Beaty: "I don't believe in victories" [Re: KUCO_VOC]
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Look what up?
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#2021334 - 10/04/17 05:13 PM Re: Beaty: "I don't believe in victories" [Re: KUCO_VOC]
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If Beaty doesn't believe in winning, wouldn't he be 0-28?

Why win the three? He doesn't believe in winning, after all.

Sorry if I infringed on your MU safe space with my facts and logic.
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#2021338 - 10/04/17 06:16 PM Re: Beaty: "I don't believe in victories" [Re: 58hawk]
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Originally Posted By: 58hawk
Look what up?
You say source. I say NCAA record 3-25. What else is it that you need as source?
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#2021339 - 10/04/17 06:18 PM Re: Beaty: "I don't believe in victories" [Re: dgless21]
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Originally Posted By: dgless21
If Beaty doesn't believe in winning, wouldn't he be 0-28?

Why win the three? He doesn't believe in winning, after all.

Sorry if I infringed on your MU safe space with my facts and logic.
No one is perfect not even Saban.

Also, I’m not a MU fan whatsoever...
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#2021355 - 10/04/17 10:25 PM Re: Beaty: "I don't believe in victories" [Re: KUCO_VOC]
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Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
Originally Posted By: 58hawk
Look what up?
You say source. I say NCAA record 3-25. What else is it that you need as source?
Come on. You can do better then that.
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#2021360 - 10/05/17 03:28 AM Re: Beaty: "I don't believe in victories" [Re: dgless21]
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Originally Posted By: dgless21
If Beaty doesn't believe in winning, wouldn't he be 0-28?

Why win the three? He doesn't believe in winning, after all.

Sorry if I infringed on your MU safe space with my facts and logic.


He's really bad at coaching and the players took over a few times.
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#2021361 - 10/05/17 08:04 AM Re: Beaty: "I don't believe in victories" [Re: KUCO_VOC]
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So you have an opinion on Beaty and a manufactured hypothesis with no evidence to back it up?

Outstanding!
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#2021376 - 10/05/17 02:10 PM Re: Beaty: "I don't believe in victories" [Re: JimWest]
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Originally Posted By: JimWest
Originally Posted By: dgless21
If Beaty doesn't believe in winning, wouldn't he be 0-28?

Why win the three? He doesn't believe in winning, after all.

Sorry if I infringed on your MU safe space with my facts and logic.


He's really bad at coaching and the players took over a few times.
Took over what? The team?
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#2021379 - 10/05/17 03:05 PM Re: Beaty: "I don't believe in victories" [Re: 58hawk]
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Originally Posted By: 58hawk
Originally Posted By: JimWest
Originally Posted By: dgless21
If Beaty doesn't believe in winning, wouldn't he be 0-28?

Why win the three? He doesn't believe in winning, after all.

Sorry if I infringed on your MU safe space with my facts and logic.


He's really bad at coaching and the players took over a few times.
Took over what? The team?
Hey Mr. Obtuse - 3 wins for Beaty were when the players on the field Took Over. Yes, they mutinied on the bounty in order to win.
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#2021389 - 10/05/17 09:18 PM Re: Beaty: "I don't believe in victories" [Re: KUCO_VOC]
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Wilt Chamberlain

Registered: 12/16/09
Loc: KCMO
Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
Originally Posted By: 58hawk
Originally Posted By: JimWest
Originally Posted By: dgless21
If Beaty doesn't believe in winning, wouldn't he be 0-28?

Why win the three? He doesn't believe in winning, after all.

Sorry if I infringed on your MU safe space with my facts and logic.


He's really bad at coaching and the players took over a few times.
Took over what? The team?
Hey Mr. Obtuse - 3 wins for Beaty were when the players on the field Took Over. Yes, they mutinied on the bounty in order to win.
B.S. That is simply not true. Source?
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#2021394 - 10/06/17 09:45 AM Re: Beaty: "I don't believe in victories" [Re: KUCO_VOC]
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Registered: 03/27/05
Loc: Lawrence Beer Co.
He doesn't use facts in his arguments. He manufactures crap. Repeatedly.

It's not a one time thing. He literally does it in every. single. discussion. No one wins because he's going to just keep making up bigger and bigger lies until you stop giving him attention.

Why can't you guys grasp this? Discussing with him just makes the entire football board worse.
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#2021395 - 10/06/17 10:20 AM Re: Beaty: "I don't believe in victories" [Re: dgless21]
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KU1980

Registered: 05/22/08
Loc: Denver, CO
Originally Posted By: dgless21
He doesn't use facts in his arguments. He manufactures crap. Repeatedly.

It's not a one time thing. He literally does it in every. single. discussion. No one wins because he's going to just keep making up bigger and bigger lies until you stop giving him attention.

Why can't you guys grasp this? Discussing with him just makes the entire football board worse.
Hmmm, 1,700 views later (it's a fact!), you come up with this? Do better.

HEY GUYS!! Let's stop posting replies to see if dgless is right!! My only objective here is to LIE...what a, glorious, poster dgless is.


Edited by KUCO_VOC (10/07/17 08:24 AM)
Edit Reason: glorious dgless
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#2021408 - 10/06/17 05:10 PM Re: Beaty: "I don't believe in victories" [Re: KUCO_VOC]
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Wilt Chamberlain

Registered: 12/16/09
Loc: KCMO
Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
Originally Posted By: dgless21
He doesn't use facts in his arguments. He manufactures crap. Repeatedly.

It's not a one time thing. He literally does it in every. single. discussion. No one wins because he's going to just keep making up bigger and bigger lies until you stop giving him attention.

Why can't you guys grasp this? Discussing with him just makes the entire football board worse.
Hmmm, 1,600 views later (it's a fact!), you come up with this? Do better.

HEY GUYS!! Let's stop posting replies to see if dgless is right!! My only objective here is to LIE...what a pompous poster dgless is.
I'm at a loss for words to respond to you.
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#2021423 - 10/07/17 02:51 PM Re: Beaty: "I don't believe in victories" [Re: KUCO_VOC]
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KU1980

Registered: 05/22/08
Loc: Denver, CO
In order to win, the coach needs to give up on calling double safety blitzs. But he doesn't WANT to win, right?
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#2021424 - 10/07/17 02:51 PM Re: Beaty: "I don't believe in victories" [Re: KUCO_VOC]
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KU1980

Registered: 05/22/08
Loc: Denver, CO
Kingsbury is 27-27 before today's game. Make that 28-27...
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#2021430 - 10/07/17 03:45 PM Re: Beaty: "I don't believe in victories" [Re: KUCO_VOC]
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US Marshal, Kansas Territory

Registered: 12/12/03
Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
In order to win, the coach needs to give up on calling double safety blitzs. But he doesn't WANT to win, right?


On third and 2, no less. What complete and utter imbocile dialed that one up? Don't the players just have to think "this is Fing moronic"? Maybe they don't know any better and just follow the herd to slaughter. Honestly I think it may be the latter


Edited by Jman1 (10/07/17 03:45 PM)

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#2021434 - 10/07/17 04:35 PM Re: Beaty: "I don't believe in victories" [Re: KUCO_VOC]
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Wilt Chamberlain

Registered: 11/25/06
Desperate times lead to desperate measures. And what do you superior coaches call on third and 2???????

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#2021443 - 10/07/17 05:24 PM Re: Beaty: "I don't believe in victories" [Re: vmlb]
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KU1980

Registered: 05/22/08
Loc: Denver, CO
Originally Posted By: vmlb
Desperate times lead to desperate measures. And what do you superior coaches call on third and 2???????
Herbert was underutilized early today on O.

Coaches decision.

I'm a fan, he's a coach (in name).

On D, it wasn't a goal line stance on TT third down and two yards play. Too early in the game to be doing that blitz call...Kansas did look desperate there.
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#2021447 - 10/07/17 06:10 PM Re: Beaty: "I don't believe in victories" [Re: KUCO_VOC]
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gale sayers

Registered: 01/18/06
Loc: Topeka,Kansas
Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
Originally Posted By: vmlb
Desperate times lead to desperate measures. And what do you superior coaches call on third and 2???????
Herbert was underutilized early today on O.

Coaches decision.

I'm a fan, he's a coach (in name).

On D, it wasn't a goal line stance on TT third down and two yards play. Too early in the game to be doing that blitz call...Kansas did look desperate there.

Would not have made one iota difference. We couldn’t run on them and we couldn’t stop them. The players were out matched and so was the coaching staff. A total butt kicking by a superior team.

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#2021448 - 10/07/17 06:13 PM Re: Beaty: "I don't believe in victories" [Re: KUCO_VOC]
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Wilt Chamberlain

Registered: 12/16/09
Loc: KCMO
What ever happened to going for a QB sneak? If its 4th and inches how do you not get a first down? Simply handing the ball off doesn't work for us. Have to get creative.
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#2021470 - 10/07/17 11:16 PM Re: Beaty: "I don't believe in victories" [Re: track]
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KU1980

Registered: 05/22/08
Loc: Denver, CO
Originally Posted By: track
Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
Originally Posted By: vmlb
Desperate times lead to desperate measures. And what do you superior coaches call on third and 2???????
Herbert was underutilized early today on O.

Coaches decision.

I'm a fan, he's a coach (in name).

On D, it wasn't a goal line stance on TT third down and two yards play. Too early in the game to be doing that blitz call...Kansas did look desperate there.

Would not have made one iota difference. We couldn’t run on them and we couldn’t stop them. The players were out matched and so was the coaching staff. A total butt kicking by a superior team.
For once, I agree with you. Why? B/c you are at my frustrated level w/Beaty.
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