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#2020896 - 09/25/17 09:59 AM Offensive Stats
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Registered: 12/10/09
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Last 11 Years of KU Offense per game:

2007: 480 Yards, 43 Points
2008: 432 Yards, 33 Points
2009: 422 Yards, 29 Points

2010: 296 Yards, 17 Points
2011: 327 Yards, 22 Points

2012: 360 Yards, 18 Points
2013: 295 Yards, 15 Points
2014: 324 Yards, 18 Points

2015: 332 Yards, 15 Points
2016: 360 Yards, 20 Points
2017: 481 Yards, 32 Points

Bender: 15th in nation in passing yards
Herbert: 15th in nation in rushing yards

Of course turnovers and mental mistakes have been a huge problem still- but it looks like we will have by far the best offense since Mangino this season. All with 1 or 2 Senior starters. The defense is still terrible, but even after a 1-3 start this team seems to be showing the most progress of any team post mangino. As sad as that might be- it gives me a little hope for Beaty. Bowen... not so much

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#2020900 - 09/25/17 10:10 AM Re: Offensive Stats [Re: MNJhawk]
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Only problem with "the progress" is that 2017 is only 1/3 complete. That progress isn't going to be anywhere near the current stats after the complete season...
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#2020902 - 09/25/17 10:18 AM Re: Offensive Stats [Re: KUCO_VOC]
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Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
Only problem with "the progress" is that 2017 is only 1/3 complete. That progress isn't going to be anywhere near the current stats after the complete season...

Sure- but as long as the offense averages 18 Points and 300 yards over the last 8 games it will be the most points and most yards post mangino

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#2020905 - 09/25/17 10:29 AM Re: Offensive Stats [Re: MNJhawk]
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The offense has been improved--even with Sims looking like he isn't 100%.

The defense has been non-existent. Many of our "stops" on Saturday were caused by passes dropped by WVU. Missed tackles and missed assignments making us look BAD.

Giving up 590, 451, and 635 total yards against FBS opponents is painful
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#2020907 - 09/25/17 11:48 AM Re: Offensive Stats [Re: MNJhawk]
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As Coach Fambrough used to be fond of saying; "Statistics are for losers."

There is only ONE stat that matters, the Wins/Loss column. Gill, Weis didn't and Beaty is not getting it done in that category. One could even argue that Mangino was canned for losing.....though that would be a skewed way of looking at what happened to the Fat Man.

One win, against SEMO is simply not going to cut it.

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#2020914 - 09/25/17 02:23 PM Re: Offensive Stats [Re: MNJhawk]
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Unfortunately, when you don't get the wins for YEARS, you start to look at stats and personnel to look for a catalyst of the losses.

The 537 yards against WVU is the most we've put up in a Big 12 game since Mangino (per Newell).
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#2020922 - 09/25/17 04:53 PM Re: Offensive Stats [Re: dgless21]
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Originally Posted By: dgless21
Unfortunately, when you don't get the wins for YEARS, you start to look at stats and personnel to look for a catalyst of the losses.

The 537 yards against WVU is the most we've put up in a Big 12 game since Mangino (per Newell).


Why hasn't anyone questioned the WVU Defense with regards to this "stat"? wink

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#2020928 - 09/25/17 05:41 PM Re: Offensive Stats [Re: MNJhawk]
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See paragraph one.

When you win, no one cares. When you lose, stats become a necessity.

This is why Bill Self has a thesis worth of stats from his trips to the Elite Eight.
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#2020930 - 09/25/17 06:28 PM Re: Offensive Stats [Re: beenahawk]
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Originally Posted By: beenahawk
Originally Posted By: dgless21
Unfortunately, when you don't get the wins for YEARS, you start to look at stats and personnel to look for a catalyst of the losses.

The 537 yards against WVU is the most we've put up in a Big 12 game since Mangino (per Newell).


Why hasn't anyone questioned the WVU Defense with regards to this "stat"? wink

We have played plenty of bad Big 12 defenses over the last 8 years- and haven't had that much success moving the ball against any of them.

Most yards and points WVU has given up so far this year as well.

I'm not saying this makes the season ok. Yes they are just stats and it the only thing that matters is wins and losses. but its a good sign that at least 1 side of the ball has seen pretty drastic improvement so far under the newest coach. It gives me some hope that soon we might actually win a game or 2.

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#2020938 - 09/25/17 08:43 PM Re: Offensive Stats [Re: MNJhawk]
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Thanks for the stats MNJhawk! In case no one has noticed most of the Big 12 defenses are good. We could keep up those stats.
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#2021037 - 09/28/17 04:49 PM Re: Offensive Stats [Re: beenahawk]
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Originally Posted By: beenahawk
As Coach Fambrough used to be fond of saying; "Statistics are for losers."

There is only ONE stat that matters, the Wins/Loss column. Gill, Weis didn't and Beaty is not getting it done in that category. One could even argue that Mangino was canned for losing.....though that would be a skewed way of looking at what happened to the Fat Man.

One win, against SEMO is simply not going to cut it.


No disrespect to an IronArse intended, beenahawk, but in football I'd say there are two stats that matter: 1-W/L of course, 2-the betting line. In past Go-Arounds', I've noticed that the wins usually start coming about a year after the team starts beating the spread. This fall, Beaty's boys are now 2 and 2 vs the spread. If they finish 8 and 4 vs the spread, I'll consider that an improvement.

Rock Chalk Jayhawk, Beat Mizzou

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#2021045 - 09/28/17 07:16 PM Re: Offensive Stats [Re: John_Brown]
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Originally Posted By: John_Brown
Originally Posted By: beenahawk
As Coach Fambrough used to be fond of saying; "Statistics are for losers."

There is only ONE stat that matters, the Wins/Loss column. Gill, Weis didn't and Beaty is not getting it done in that category. One could even argue that Mangino was canned for losing.....though that would be a skewed way of looking at what happened to the Fat Man.

One win, against SEMO is simply not going to cut it.


No disrespect to an IronArse intended, beenahawk, but in football I'd say there are two stats that matter: 1-W/L of course, 2-the betting line. In past Go-Arounds', I've noticed that the wins usually start coming about a year after the team starts beating the spread. This fall, Beaty's boys are now 2 and 2 vs the spread. If they finish 8 and 4 vs the spread, I'll consider that an improvement.

Rock Chalk Jayhawk, Beat Mizzou

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