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#2017580 - 05/29/17 11:02 AM New revenue streams?
John_Brown Offline
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Are the underdog conferences dead? Or are they more creative?

Conference USA on twitter.

I don't believe the article gives a dollar amount. But this does give their fans access. Seems to me that the little guys are fighting back. Perhaps this kinda stuff will save the Big12 afterall.

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#2017602 - 05/30/17 10:02 AM Re: New revenue streams? [Re: John_Brown]
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the demise of the big 12 is greatly exaggerated, unfounded and, frankly, silly.
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#2017604 - 05/30/17 11:17 AM Re: New revenue streams? [Re: tmcats]
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Originally Posted By: tmcats
the demise of the big 12 is greatly exaggerated, unfounded and, frankly, silly.


Only state school idiots believe this.
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#2017709 - 06/05/17 10:20 AM Re: New revenue streams? [Re: JimWest]
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Originally Posted By: JimWest
Originally Posted By: tmcats
the demise of the big 12 is greatly exaggerated, unfounded and, frankly, silly.


Only state school idiots believe this.



Pretty sure we have about 34.8 million reasons to show why the conference is doing just fine as is...
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#2017710 - 06/05/17 10:26 AM Re: New revenue streams? [Re: JimWest]
tmcats Offline
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Originally Posted By: JimWest
Originally Posted By: tmcats
the demise of the big 12 is greatly exaggerated, unfounded and, frankly, silly.


Only state school idiots believe this.


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#2017711 - 06/05/17 10:55 AM Re: New revenue streams? [Re: tmcats]
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Brett McMurphy‏ @Brett_McMurphy Jun 2
Big 12 will distribute $34.8 million per school, commish Bob Bowlsby announces. About a 15 percent increase from last season

The Iowa State AD posts 34.5M. Curious who is right.
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#2017712 - 06/05/17 11:04 AM Re: New revenue streams? [Re: dgless21]
tmcats Offline
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we really need jim west's take on this financial malaise within the big 12. i'm sure he'll configure it as some sort an accounting gimmick hatched in manhattan, ks as a means to keep ku from bolting to it's conference of choice and k-state from being relegated to the mwc.
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#2017714 - 06/05/17 11:33 AM Re: New revenue streams? [Re: John_Brown]
dgless21 Offline
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Most still feel it is unlikely that anything happens while the grant of rights are signed.

Soooo...feel free to continue this argument for 8 more years.
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#2017717 - 06/05/17 01:07 PM Re: New revenue streams? [Re: tmcats]
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Originally Posted By: tmcats
we really need jim west's take on this financial malaise within the big 12. i'm sure he'll configure it as some sort accounting gimmick hatched in manhattan, ks as a means to keep ku from bolting to it's conference of choice and k-state from being relegated to the mwc.


Typical redneck truckstop dweller, conflating issues with reckless abandon.

I know this is hard for you farm people, but money =/= stability.
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#2017719 - 06/05/17 01:15 PM Re: New revenue streams? [Re: dgless21]
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Originally Posted By: dgless21
Brett McMurphy‏ @Brett_McMurphy Jun 2
Big 12 will distribute $34.8 million per school, commish Bob Bowlsby announces. About a 15 percent increase from last season

The Iowa State AD posts 34.5M. Curious who is right.
I believe Bowlsby's number is the average per school distribution, but because of bowl game payouts, etc. the actual amount received by each will vary slightly. Perhaps the ISU AD's number is the amount ISU actually received?

Add on KU's $9.2 million in tier 3 revenue and KU comes out to about $44 million in combined conference and 3rd tier media rights payout, which puts KU $3.6 million ahead of the SEC. There is a little bit of murkiness on some radio and other deals which could make what some SEC teams make in total a bit higher than just their $40.4 million conference payout though.

These numbers point to UT, KU, and OU all being in really good shape compared to most of the top tier P-5 schools across the nation, as these are the highest 3rd tier revenue schools in the Big 12. By my estimate they made about $50 million, $44 million, and $45 million respectively. I think WVU, OSU, and Tech are the next 3 and would compare favorably to most other P-5 schools across the nation in total media rights revenue as well. Being between $38 million and $41 million in total conference/media rights revenue.
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#2017727 - 06/05/17 02:08 PM Re: New revenue streams? [Re: Kman_blue]
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i know this doesn't fit your narrative, but here it is anyway, k-state's reported radio and tv contracted revenue was $4.4 million. thus, ku spent a reported $20 million + more to make an additional $3.8 million in revenue?
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#2017730 - 06/05/17 02:38 PM Re: New revenue streams? [Re: John_Brown]
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KU spent a reported $20M on....?
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#2017732 - 06/05/17 02:48 PM Re: New revenue streams? [Re: tmcats]
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I don't have a narrative.

The facts are KU makes more athletic $$ per year than ksuck does every single year there's data for and it's usually a lot more $$. KU's athletic revenues, including 3rd tier rights, are and have always been superior to you purple pig farmers. To the tune of KU's athletic revenues being $95 million for 2015-16 and ksu's being $78 million.

Those are FACTS, not opinion nor narrative.
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#2017733 - 06/05/17 03:02 PM Re: New revenue streams? [Re: tmcats]
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Funny, Learfield Sports report it only pays ksuck $3.4 million per year for its 3rd tier rights and official state records back that claim up.
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#2017741 - 06/05/17 08:52 PM Re: New revenue streams? [Re: Kman_blue]
tmcats Offline
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Originally Posted By: Kman_blue
I don't have a narrative.

The facts are KU makes more athletic $$ per year than ksuck does every single year there's data for and it's usually a lot more $$. KU's athletic revenues, including 3rd tier rights, are and have always been superior to you purple pig farmers. To the tune of KU's athletic revenues being $95 million for 2015-16 and ksu's being $78 million.

Those are FACTS, not opinion nor narrative.


beyond your childish junior high slurs, you make the point very well. k-state media revenues are just a few million short of ku's, even though ku spends almost $20 million more generating those same media dollars. obviously, ole lew put a mbb ticket scheme together that enhances revenue. but it's somehow spent for what is not at all clear, certainly not the football stadium, which stands there as one of the worst venues if not the single worst in p5 football.
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