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#2016413 - 03/26/17 09:27 PM Next Starting 5
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Registered: 09/20/14
If Graham comes back:

Udoka
Mykhailiuk
Graham
Vick/Garrett
Preston

If Graham Leaves
Udoka
Mykhailiuk
Coleby/Bragg
Vick/Garrett
Preston

Off the bench
Bragg
Lightfoot
Cunliffe (after first semester)

Not a lot of wow here.

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#2016415 - 03/26/17 09:49 PM Re: Next Starting 5 [Re: INation]
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You're missing Malik
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#2016418 - 03/26/17 09:56 PM Re: Next Starting 5 [Re: INation]
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Graham, Newman, Vick, Preston, Doke

I don't think Svi will be back.
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#2016419 - 03/26/17 10:08 PM Re: Next Starting 5 [Re: tulsahawk13]
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Originally Posted By: tulsahawk13
You're missing Malik


I didn't include him because of the rumers he's leaving. If he stays I'll insert him in somewhere.

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#2016424 - 03/26/17 11:25 PM Re: Next Starting 5 [Re: INation]
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Where's he going? What are you hearing?

Already used his redshirt year. And he's attached at the hip to Devonte, who will probably be back next year.
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#2016426 - 03/27/17 05:10 AM Re: Next Starting 5 [Re: jahawker2004]
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Originally Posted By: jahawker2004
Where's he going? What are you hearing?

Already used his redshirt year. And he's attached at the hip to Devonte, who will probably be back next year.


Slant had a tweet about Newman checking NBA options. https://twitter.com/JayhawkSlant/status/846177924646670341

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#2016427 - 03/27/17 05:21 AM Re: Next Starting 5 [Re: INation]
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I'm not a premium member so I couldn't read the article but I did see this--

JayhawkSlant Retweeted
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He'd better stay. Otherwise Self wasted a scholarship and the kid breaks his promise.
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#2016429 - 03/27/17 08:35 AM Re: Next Starting 5 [Re: INation]
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Yeah saw that aswell. Has me thinking one of those don't count him till he steps on the floor. But good if he does stay and can make an impact.

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#2016431 - 03/27/17 10:03 AM Re: Next Starting 5 [Re: INation]
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KU 2018 Lineup L -- O -- A -- D -- E-- D

PG Trevon Duval (Unsigned)
SG Devonté Graham (Overseas or NBAD)
SF Malik Newman
PF Sviatoslav Mykhailiuk (NBA before Europe bound)
C Billy Preston (one and done)

Bench

Marcus Garrett G
Sam Cunliffe SF
Lagerald Vick G
Udoka Azubuike C
Carlton Bragg F
Dwight Coleby C

Anoyne go to transfer for playing time? No Coaching time? Yes,


Kurtis Townsend — Assistant coach (13th season) Ready to run his own program if a Power Conference Team ask.
Norm Roberts — Assistant coach (6th season) Wants $$$ to run his own program. Mid major
Jerrance Howard — Assistant coach (4th season) Staying until an opportunity happens.
Fred Quartlebaum Mid Major



Tea Moir
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#2016445 - 03/27/17 07:13 PM Re: Next Starting 5 [Re: Maximus]
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Bragg is gone. Whether he likes it or not. Can't play with back to basket, and no room for him anywhere else. Self will push him out of the program.

Vick will be a starter next year. His upside is enormous. But there's some talk about too much baggage and Self chasing him off. Very doubtful, he's too gifted athletically.

Duval to Duke. Our backcourt already too crowded and he wants to run the show. If Graham leaves he may come. Otherwise, this is Devonte's team next year.

Preston one and done? Not so sure.

And I've said it a million times already--Svi is gone. NBA or Europe.

Norm Roberts is on nobody's short list to coach anywhere.

Townsend will have some suitors. It would have to be a plum job to lure him away. He has said many times he has "the greatest assistant job in America."


Edited by jahawker2004 (03/27/17 07:19 PM)
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#2016448 - 03/27/17 07:29 PM Re: Next Starting 5 [Re: Maximus]
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Originally Posted By: Maximus
KU 2018 Lineup L -- O -- A -- D -- E-- D

PG Trevon Duval (Unsigned)
SG Devonté Graham (Overseas or NBAD)
SF Malik Newman
PF Sviatoslav Mykhailiuk (NBA before Europe bound)
C Billy Preston (one and done)

Bench

Marcus Garrett G
Sam Cunliffe SF
Lagerald Vick G
Udoka Azubuike C
Carlton Bragg F
Dwight Coleby C

Anoyne go to transfer for playing time? No Coaching time? Yes,


Kurtis Townsend — Assistant coach (13th season) Ready to run his own program if a Power Conference Team ask.
Norm Roberts — Assistant coach (6th season) Wants $$$ to run his own program. Mid major
Jerrance Howard — Assistant coach (4th season) Staying until an opportunity happens.
Fred Quartlebaum Mid Major



Tea Moir


Dok will start. Malik will stay and be our stud guard. Bill will get a late surprise recruit. Next year's team will be a typical inside out Self squad. No smoke and mirrors act with a weak front court like this year's team. And no more soft Lucas. I am amazed we won 31 and actually made an E8. Final 4 next year fo sure if Bill lets an assistant coach the E8 game. Oh snap.
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#2016502 - 03/30/17 08:33 AM Re: Next Starting 5 [Re: INation]
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McDonald's All-American Game: Five-star Trevon Duval is most wanted

Kansas: "Billy Preston is recruiting me too. He's telling me they need a point guard so everyone's doing a little bit of recruiting. I'm going to wait to see what Devonte Graham does and a few other people before I make any kind of decision."
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#2016503 - 03/30/17 08:36 AM Re: Next Starting 5 [Re: Maximus]
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I would be surprised if Honey Graham and The Svi were not in a KU uniform next season.

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#2016505 - 03/30/17 08:49 AM Re: Next Starting 5 [Re: INation]
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Duke has three guards of Luke Kennard, Grayson Allen, Frank Jackson. Two are projected to be NBA bound but Grayson Allen might return that would have Trevon Duval headed to KU! shocked

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#2016506 - 03/30/17 08:49 AM Re: Next Starting 5 [Re: MICHHAWK]
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Originally Posted By: MICHHAWK
I would be surprised if Honey Graham and The Svi were not in a KU uniform next season.


I think they both come back.
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#2017028 - 04/28/17 02:46 PM Re: Next Starting 5 [Re: INation]
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Tevon Duvall still undecided. NBA Draft will be soon for player declaring and returning.

http://247sports.com/Player/Trevon-Duval-36812


Andrew White had a nice senior year for those who remember him. I was disappointed to see him leave. http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/61616/andrew-white-iii


Stephie Musso
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#2017031 - 04/28/17 05:01 PM Re: Next Starting 5 [Re: INation]
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Duvall will be a Dukie. The only scenario that plays out is if Svi stays in draft, but I don't think he is coming here. Guessing Duke has the upper hand right now.

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#2017044 - 04/29/17 12:22 PM Re: Next Starting 5 [Re: INation]
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I thought Graham already announced he is coming back. Did I miss something here?
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#2017045 - 04/29/17 01:00 PM Re: Next Starting 5 [Re: INation]
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Loc: Nebraska
I don't know if you missed anything. I guess some think we are still recruiting Duval, which we might be still, bit don't think we land him with our current roster situation.

Graham
Newman
Udoka
Preston
Vick
Thats what I see for a starting 5 for next season. Leaves us with a small rotation of Cunliffe, Coleby, Lightfoot, and Garrett. Duvall would be a nice addition yet, but I think Svi will come back and then he is a starter with Vick coming down as a super sub.

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#2017046 - 04/29/17 01:31 PM Re: Next Starting 5 [Re: Jaycat92]
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It would seem to me that Graham, Newman and Preston are likely starters. Not sure about the other two spots. I am wondering what Self knows. It seems unlikely that he would pass on Duvel if he thought there was a good chance of getting him. So why did he go with Moore? Perhaps he strongly thinks Svi is going NBA and so still has a chance for Duval. Maybe he knew that Duvel was a no go and so Moore was a good get no matter what Svi does. I guess only time will settle all the dust and we'll know exactly where we stand. Whatever, the next two years look like they could be exciting with a lot of potential.

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#2017051 - 04/29/17 07:10 PM Re: Next Starting 5 [Re: Maximus]
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Originally Posted By: Maximus
Tevon Duvall still undecided. NBA Draft will be soon for player declaring and returning.

http://247sports.com/Player/Trevon-Duval-36812


Andrew White had a nice senior year for those who remember him. I was disappointed to see him leave. http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/61616/andrew-white-iii


Stephie Musso
No PT = Transferring. Looks like he can play in the NBA after watching him at Syracuse.
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#2017067 - 04/30/17 07:55 PM Re: Next Starting 5 [Re: INation]
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White3 can't play defense. He will never even make a roster or hardly see any PT. He might get some D-league time, but won't get much else. He wasn't even the best player on the team at Nebraska last year. Talent to be a great one, but no work ethic. If he would have given alittle bit more here, he might very well have been a NBA caliber player.

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#2017172 - 05/08/17 08:39 AM Re: Next Starting 5 [Re: INation]
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Does Kansas need Tevon Duvall


Of course, he's a upgrade. Graham will do OK at the point but a one and done is better than a Europe bench guard.

The spring signing period for college basketball players ends on May 17.


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#2017174 - 05/08/17 01:26 PM Re: Next Starting 5 [Re: Maximus]
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I will accept this duvall kid if he wants to come. But if I have to pick between either Honey Graham or this duvall kid, I take Honey Graham every time.

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#2017175 - 05/08/17 01:58 PM Re: Next Starting 5 [Re: INation]
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I agree 100% Mich!
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#2017178 - 05/08/17 03:59 PM Re: Next Starting 5 [Re: bigdogjac]
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Graham knows the coach, system and some of the players. No learning curve except to get better. He's already pretty good. He's much better prepared to lead our team than Duvall, even if Duvall might be a better player. Duvall would have to learn all that Graham already knows. Yeah, Graham's the choice, if there's one to be made.

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#2017180 - 05/08/17 05:23 PM Re: Next Starting 5 [Re: Jayhawk1952]
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Originally Posted By: Jayhawk1952
Graham knows the coach, system and some of the players. No learning curve except to get better. He's already pretty good. He's much better prepared to lead our team than Duvall, even if Duvall might be a better player. Duvall would have to learn all that Graham already knows. Yeah, Graham's the choice, if there's one to be made.
He will be the team leader no doubt (Graham).
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#2017184 - 05/08/17 10:37 PM Re: Next Starting 5 [Re: INation]
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At this point do we even have enough room for Duvall?

I would say that between Malik and Graham we are covered at the pg position. Graham will be our lead guard, and thats going to be ok.

Duvall being a pg, would more than likely be in an offense that allows for pg's to dominate the game. Sure Frank was that man this season, but we all know Self prefers inside out first. I don't think Duvall would get the full "trust factor" until mid-season at best. Frank earned that trust for 4 years and knew his limits.

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#2017214 - 05/10/17 04:52 PM Re: Next Starting 5 [Re: Jayhawk1952]
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Originally Posted By: Jayhawk1952
It would seem to me that Graham, Newman and Preston are likely starters. Not sure about the other two spots. I am wondering what Self knows. It seems unlikely that he would pass on Duvel if he thought there was a good chance of getting him. So why did he go with Moore? Perhaps he strongly thinks Svi is going NBA and so still has a chance for Duval. Maybe he knew that Duvel was a no go and so Moore was a good get no matter what Svi does. I guess only time will settle all the dust and we'll know exactly where we stand. Whatever, the next two years look like they could be exciting with a lot of potential.


Very thoughtful post (as always) Jayhawk1952, but--

Is there any doubt Doke is a starter next season? He should be a dominating offensive (and defensive) factor in the paint. It's the only thing we lacked last season.

Moore was a great get by Coach Self. We have a legitimate pg for 2018-19 no matter what happens on the recruiting front going forward. Since he's sitting a year, whatever Duval decides is a moot point.

I'm excited about next season, but absolutely drooling over the 2018-19 team and Self's not even done putting it together yet.
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#2017224 - 05/10/17 06:10 PM Re: Next Starting 5 [Re: INation]
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If there are no more scholarships then he is done. I guess the main question is Svi coming back or not.????
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#2017262 - 05/12/17 12:02 PM Re: Next Starting 5 [Re: INation]
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Preston, Doke, Malik, Graham and ..........Svi, Legerald, Cunliffe(after semester), Garrett and Lightfoot. Seems to me we are solid heading into next year.

Sure looks like a Hi-lo offensive format for our talent next season. Preston doesn't appear to be as athletic as Jackson.

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#2017269 - 05/12/17 08:27 PM Re: Next Starting 5 [Re: INation]
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Frank Jackson is now entering the draft...........smells like a Duvall landing at Cameron Indoor.

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#2017304 - 05/15/17 08:19 AM Re: Next Starting 5 [Re: Jaycat92]
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The hint that DC is likely going to transfer out sort of bums me out. He was coming on sort of strong towards the end of last season.

The kids come, the kids go. It's a revolving door. Hard to get attached.

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#2017311 - 05/15/17 03:43 PM Re: Next Starting 5 [Re: MICHHAWK]
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I tend to agree with you Michhawk.

And I think we're gonna be exposed in the paint again next year. Doke will do fine, but the other three (Preston, Whitman and Lightfoot) can't play the 5 spot and are not true traditional post players. Just like Carlton Bragg.

Let's hope for a big year from Preston.
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#2017314 - 05/15/17 04:13 PM Re: Next Starting 5 [Re: jahawker2004]
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Originally Posted By: jahawker2004
I tend to agree with you Michhawk.

And I think we're gonna be exposed in the paint again next year. Doke will do fine, but the other three (Preston, Whitman and Lightfoot) can't play the 5 spot and are not true traditional post players. Just like Carlton Bragg.

Let's hope for a big year from Preston.
If Doke is the real deal, his back up won't matter.
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#2017325 - 05/16/17 07:13 AM Re: Next Starting 5 [Re: KUCO_VOC]
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DC moving on is a strange play. Gotta believe with our current depth he was going to be the first big off the bench.

Very strange. This off season is very strange.

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#2017327 - 05/16/17 08:46 AM Re: Next Starting 5 [Re: INation]
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Tevon Duvall signed with Duke in 5/15. Bad news for Bill Self.

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#2017329 - 05/16/17 09:50 AM Re: Next Starting 5 [Re: MICHHAWK]
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Originally Posted By: MICHHAWK
DC moving on is a strange play. Gotta believe with our current depth he was going to be the first big off the bench.

Very strange. This off season is very strange.


The writing is on the wall. Popovich and his Spurs will win the NBA Title. Popovich retirs...GM Buford says Bill come on down. Bill does...KU falls into mediocrity. Something is amiss when Bill can't land a recruiting class as good as Mizzou.

The most KU basketball loving poster I know on the dot net quit posting a month ago. This individual is privy to a lot of going ons with Kansas hoops. I am afraid he knows that something bad is going on with the program. Of course I hope not but there is a weirdness to this recruiting season.
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#2017333 - 05/16/17 11:32 AM Re: Next Starting 5 [Re: PHOGUSHER]
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What does misery have to do with anything? Are you a misery fan. I kind of suspected you were. Explains some things that's for sure.

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#2017334 - 05/16/17 12:37 PM Re: Next Starting 5 [Re: INation]
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It's no different than any other year. No one expected Duval to come to KU. He's been headed for Duke all the way. As for more transfers than usual, Bill always takes the best available, and he needed experience for next year when we will lose a lot. And Missouri can't really take credit. It's their new coach who attracted the players. No doubt all of them will be sorry.

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#2017336 - 05/16/17 02:21 PM Re: Next Starting 5 [Re: MICHHAWK]
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Originally Posted By: MICHHAWK
What does misery have to do with anything? Are you a misery fan. I kind of suspected you were. Explains some things that's for sure.


Wrong as usual.
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#2017337 - 05/16/17 02:47 PM Re: Next Starting 5 [Re: PHOGUSHER]
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I pegged you as misery tiger knobgobbler a long time ago. All the time you spent on your knees these last few weeks buffing their helmet just proves it.

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#2017339 - 05/16/17 03:28 PM Re: Next Starting 5 [Re: INation]
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I don't really like whats happening with this recruiting class as well. DC was a valuable asset moving into next season. Bigs that can rebound and guard are not a dime of dozen. I am pretty sure he was asked to leave, and got his schollie pulled.

I too, smell a Spurs landing coming. As far as Mizzou goes, Martin couldn't coach his top 10 talent at Cali, why will it be different at Mizzou?

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#2017340 - 05/16/17 03:31 PM Re: Next Starting 5 [Re: Jaycat92]
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Originally Posted By: Jaycat92
I too, smell a Spurs landing coming.


HCBS seems like an odd hire for the nba's best franchise. I don't buy it.

I do buy HCBS to the league. Just not the spurs.

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#2017343 - 05/16/17 04:37 PM Re: Next Starting 5 [Re: MICHHAWK]
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I think too much is being made of Self’s transfers approach. First, it would seem that he had some available that were too good to pass up. Second, it seems that he has a harder time obtaining multiple one and done than Cal. Getting some good transfers that have a year of playing time under their belt is better than a bunch of unproven one and done. It was just five years ago that Cal’s bunch of one and done only made it to the NIT. Third, I think we are seeing Self becoming more and more flexible. This past season he moved away from the high/low system (he was forced to). He now may be moving more to utilizing transfers than before because he sees a need to if he’s going to get the year end trophy. I may be all wet, but I don’t see Self getting ready to jump ship to the NBA. Neither is there any school that would be tempting to him. I think he desires another NCAA championship as much or more than any of us, and he wants to get it at Kansas, the ultimate NCAA coaching chair. It was hot when he arrived, it’s getting hotter. Self is not one to pass up a challenge.

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#2017346 - 05/16/17 07:22 PM Re: Next Starting 5 [Re: MICHHAWK]
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Originally Posted By: MICHHAWK
Originally Posted By: Jaycat92
I too, smell a Spurs landing coming.


HCBS seems like an odd hire for the nba's best franchise. I don't buy it.

I do buy HCBS to the league. Just not the spurs.


Are you really that dense. The Spur's General Manager is one of Bills best friends. His son was a walk on for Bill several years back. Duuuurrrhhhhhhhh
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#2017354 - 05/17/17 08:52 AM Re: Next Starting 5 [Re: PHOGUSHER]
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Originally Posted By: PHOGUSHER
Originally Posted By: MICHHAWK
Originally Posted By: Jaycat92
I too, smell a Spurs landing coming.


HCBS seems like an odd hire for the nba's best franchise. I don't buy it.

I do buy HCBS to the league. Just not the spurs.


Are you really that dense. The Spur's General Manager is one of Bills best friends. His son was a walk on for Bill several years back. Duuuurrrhhhhhhhh


Does being somebody's buddy get you the best job for the best franchise in the nba?

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#2017356 - 05/17/17 04:31 PM Re: Next Starting 5 [Re: INation]
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It sure doesn't hurt. Think McMichhawk...think. I mean who would be better. The Bulls hired the Mayor...the Celtics hired Brad Stevens. Are they any better than Self. Self would be great at San Antonio. Pop probably won't really retire but you never know ..


Edited by PHOGUSHER (05/17/17 04:38 PM)
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#2017388 - 05/19/17 09:56 AM Re: Next Starting 5 [Re: MICHHAWK]
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Originally Posted By: MICHHAWK
DC moving on is a strange play. Gotta believe with our current depth he was going to be the first big off the bench.

Very strange. This off season is very strange.


3 days later and this is still very perplexing to me. If the Svi stays in the draft, this "move out" of DC will go down as one of the best player management headscratch'ers of the HCBS era.

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#2017421 - 05/22/17 01:28 PM Re: Next Starting 5 [Re: MICHHAWK]
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The Svi has until Wednesday. Hope he comes back to school.

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#2017425 - 05/22/17 03:19 PM Re: Next Starting 5 [Re: MICHHAWK]
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Max Falkenstien

Registered: 01/18/08
Originally Posted By: MICHHAWK
The Svi has until Wednesday. Hope he comes back to school.


I agree. He would be a good asset. But, wow, I don't have a clue about what's going to happen. Makes me wonder what Self may know that we don't, if anything.

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#2017428 - 05/22/17 04:32 PM Re: Next Starting 5 [Re: INation]
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Self knows Buford is going to say "COME ON DOWN" ..that dang Okie is going to abandon us.
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#2017430 - 05/22/17 05:01 PM Re: Next Starting 5 [Re: PHOGUSHER]
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Originally Posted By: PHOGUSHER
Self knows Buford is going to say "COME ON DOWN" ..that dang Okie is going to abandon us.


You could well be correct. But I'm not going to believe it until it happens, if it does. It's hard for me to believe that Self is willing to bow out with just one championship when the potential for 1 - 3 more are staring him in the face in the next three years and more beyond that. He is also the only coach who has ever won 13 consecutive conference championships and one more he'll be the coach at the only school that has ever won 14 consecutive conference championships. Yeah, I know you think they are worthless, but I'll take them as they come as will many other fans. I don't think the picture is as dark as you like to sometimes paint it.

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#2017431 - 05/22/17 05:16 PM Re: Next Starting 5 [Re: INation]
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Dark...nah. Just being honest about things. KU will get another good coach and they will still win. Bill is actually now tied with the Wizard of Westwood for consecutive conference titles.
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#2017435 - 05/22/17 06:08 PM Re: Next Starting 5 [Re: PHOGUSHER]
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Max Falkenstien

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I believe that the Wizard only won 9 of the 13 consecutive conf. titles for UCLA so Self is by himself with 13 consecutive titles.

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#2017439 - 05/22/17 07:18 PM Re: Next Starting 5 [Re: INation]
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Well since you are old enough to remember that stuff I huess I have to believe. Whoopity doo Bill lets get #14.
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#2017440 - 05/22/17 07:35 PM Re: Next Starting 5 [Re: PHOGUSHER]
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Max Falkenstien

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Originally Posted By: PHOGUSHER
Well since you are old enough to remember that stuff I huess I have to believe. Whoopity doo Bill lets get #14.


Well, whoopity doo, I guess we could be celebrating 15 consecutive years with zero conference championships!

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#2017441 - 05/22/17 07:43 PM Re: Next Starting 5 [Re: INation]
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No that would never happen ancient one.
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#2017442 - 05/22/17 07:44 PM Re: Next Starting 5 [Re: Jayhawk1952]
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Wooden's part of the streak was from 1967 - 75 and then he retired. They had about four consecutive championships and then took 2nd in 1966. Then the streak went to 13 but the last four without Wooden.

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#2017445 - 05/22/17 08:43 PM Re: Next Starting 5 [Re: INation]
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I said I believed you. Now go take your Geritol and go to bed..
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#2017448 - 05/22/17 09:34 PM Re: Next Starting 5 [Re: PHOGUSHER]
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Getting kinda cranky.

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#2017457 - 05/23/17 09:56 AM Re: Next Starting 5 [Re: INation]
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It happen with low iron.
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#2017464 - 05/23/17 01:59 PM Re: Next Starting 5 [Re: Jayhawk1952]
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Wilt Chamberlain

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Originally Posted By: Jayhawk1952
Originally Posted By: PHOGUSHER
Well since you are old enough to remember that stuff I huess I have to believe. Whoopity doo Bill lets get #14.


Well, whoopity doo, I guess we could be celebrating 15 consecutive years with zero conference championships!


What is our football streak?

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#2017474 - 05/23/17 03:09 PM Re: Next Starting 5 [Re: INation]
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Nobody cares...
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#2017485 - 05/24/17 07:38 AM Re: Next Starting 5 [Re: Jayhawk1952]
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Today's the day. No word. So I take that as he is not coming back to school.

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#2017486 - 05/24/17 08:27 AM Re: Next Starting 5 [Re: INation]
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I'm attempting to start a rumor that with Tevon Duvall's unfavorable KU decision making, that Bill Self has decided to move Sviatoslav Mykhailiuk over to the point to showcase his skills at the point. Graham sits the bench as a future D league-r sitting next to Brady Morningstar.

http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Sviatoslav-Mykhailiuk-62959/

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#2026504 - 01/18/18 01:58 PM Re: Next Starting 5 [Re: INation]
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NBA Mock Draft

Tevon Duval listed at #23 in the first round.


Billy Preston listed in the second round at #59/60. Potential risk-reward. Is Billy Preston better than Michael Porter? Maybe.

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#2026697 - 01/22/18 12:29 PM Re: Next Starting 5 [Re: INation]
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Marcus Garrett stats the last five games.

Jan 20 FG 1-5 20.0%
Jan 15 FG 1-4 25.0%
Jan 13 FG 1-2 50.0%
Jan 9 FG 2-3 66.7
Jan 6 FG 1-4 25.0%
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#2026699 - 01/22/18 12:34 PM Re: Next Starting 5 [Re: Maximus]
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Originally Posted By: Maximus
NBA Mock Draft

Tevon Duval listed at #23 in the first round.


Billy Preston listed in the second round at #59/60. Potential risk-reward. Is Billy Preston better than Michael Porter? Maybe.

Gracyanne Barbosa





Bend me..shape me anyway she wants to. ...lol
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#2026803 - 01/24/18 02:24 PM Re: Next Starting 5 [Re: INation]
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Lagerald Vick is not playing up to par. I liked to see Self give Sam Cunliffe a start and see what he can do with some minutes.

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#2026804 - 01/24/18 02:25 PM Re: Next Starting 5 [Re: INation]
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#2026805 - 01/24/18 02:25 PM Re: Next Starting 5 [Re: INation]
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#2026831 - 01/25/18 10:43 AM Re: Next Starting 5 [Re: Maximus]
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Maximus = favorite poster.

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#2026834 - 01/25/18 10:57 AM Re: Next Starting 5 [Re: Maximus]
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Wilt Chamberlain

Registered: 08/29/02
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Originally Posted By: Maximus
Lagerald Vick is not playing up to par. I liked to see Self give Sam Cunliffe a start and see what he can do with some minutes.


I agree.

SC must be awful in practice if he can't eat into any of LeGerry's minutes. De Soso gets more minutes in game than SC.

Point is, LeGerry ain't getting it done right now. If we can't trust SC, I can certainly trust MG to produce as much as LeGerry. LeGerry is getting 30+ minutes per. And I can count his ppg lately on one hand.

Could be that goofy hairdo.



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#2026841 - 01/25/18 12:04 PM Re: Next Starting 5 [Re: MICHHAWK]
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Or maybe off the court issues, like last year? Just speculating.

Cunliffe has been with the program almost two full seasons now. Don't you think Self would be playing him if he could make a difference?

De Sousa is getting more minutes because we have a CRISIS with front court depth. If he continues to struggle, Self will pull the plug on him too, just like he did Diallo a couple of years ago.

I continue to believe Vick will eventually come out of his "slump" because he is simply too talented. If not, chase his new girlfriend off campus like they did his last one..
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#2026846 - 01/25/18 01:35 PM Re: Next Starting 5 [Re: INation]
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Maybe Vick is putting more time in with the girlfriend than on the court.


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#2026872 - 01/26/18 10:57 AM Re: Next Starting 5 [Re: INation]
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Next starting 5 discussion should be about next season. This season it really doesnt matter unless we start getting heavy doses of Silvio and Sam. But Self wont risk that..he will stay with the same old..same old. Might be good enough to win or tie for another B12 Title. ..Won't be good enough to get them past a second weekend in the tournament. Sweet 16 is most likely this teams ceiling. Please don't let it be a S16 loss to the Shockers in Omaha. Because they can beat KU.
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#2026878 - 01/26/18 12:10 PM Re: Next Starting 5 [Re: PHOGUSHER]
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Wilt Chamberlain

Registered: 08/29/02
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The Silvio will have no impact on the outcome of this season.

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#2026885 - 01/26/18 01:42 PM Re: Next Starting 5 [Re: MICHHAWK]
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Originally Posted By: MICHHAWK
The Silvio will have no impact on the outcome of this season.


Silvio is providing substitution rest for Doki at the very least with his height, strength, and athleticism.

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#2026888 - 01/26/18 01:55 PM Re: Next Starting 5 [Re: Maximus]
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Nothing would pleasure me more than if the Silvio could give us something close to what The Lightfeet has been giving as of late.

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#2026892 - 01/26/18 02:05 PM Re: Next Starting 5 [Re: INation]
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Hey maybe equal minutes between Silvio and Lightfeet...what a concept.
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#2026898 - 01/26/18 07:01 PM Re: Next Starting 5 [Re: Maximus]
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Originally Posted By: Maximus
Maybe Vick is putting more time in with the girlfriend than on the court.


Tamra Dae
If your pic is his girlfriend then how can you blame him.
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#2026900 - 01/26/18 07:32 PM Re: Next Starting 5 [Re: INation]
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Yep ...thats her....durrrrh.
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#2026953 - 01/29/18 12:12 PM Re: Next Starting 5 [Re: PHOGUSHER]
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Originally Posted By: PHOGUSHER
Yep ...thats her....durrrrh.


Found one of PHOGUSHER and his girlfriend.....durrrr.

No ring? Thought you was a guy who purposed if she stuck around six months.
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#2027423 - 02/05/18 03:47 PM Re: Next Starting 5 [Re: INation]
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Udoka Azubuike and Lagerald Vick lacked effort. Silvio De Sousa should become a three man rotation with the other two. Vick may think about transferring at the end of season or putting some work in the weight room.

KU coach Bill Self New lineup

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#2027426 - 02/05/18 04:10 PM Re: Next Starting 5 [Re: INation]
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Probably...Mitch has the height to box out other team's bigs thus enabling Dok more rebound opportunities. Self should have tried this lineup awhile ago.
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#2027460 - 02/06/18 08:46 AM Re: Next Starting 5 [Re: INation]
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Bill Self Quotes

BILL SELF IS FED UP
-Some starters don't try very hard
-We've lost games bc, attitude, focus, selfishness
-If you're coaching effort you're going to stink execution wise
-Even selfish guys play for themselves which is better than playing for no one#KUBball (via @wibwJonathan) pic.twitter.com/89eJEzTcKB


Devonte Graham is the selfish guy playing for himself, IMO. Too many threes and no defense to save energy on the defensive side.

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#2027719 - 02/12/18 12:03 PM Re: Next Starting 5 [Re: INation]
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A reason to keep Legard Vick coming off the bench.

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#2027720 - 02/12/18 12:05 PM Re: Next Starting 5 [Re: INation]
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Vick just scored for the other team? What happen with the girlfriend?
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#2027775 - 02/14/18 11:15 AM Re: Next Starting 5 [Re: INation]
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Sam Cunliffe and Silvio De Sousa deserve a start at the power forward spot. Athletic potential for high light reel plays and they both improve the position over Vick who lacks defense play for a spot in the starting 5.


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#2027776 - 02/14/18 11:21 AM Re: Next Starting 5 [Re: Maximus]
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Originally Posted By: Maximus
Sam Cunliffe and Silvio De Sousa deserve a start at the power forward spot.


Settle down there tiger. But I must admit, the De Soso showed a little glimpse of promise last night. I was super happy for him. These last 6 weeks or so could not have been easy.

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#2028071 - 02/20/18 09:20 AM Re: Next Starting 5 [Re: INation]
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Silvio De Sousa stats against Okalhoma: In 13 min, 10 points and 6 rebounds!

Good job bench warmer! NBA first round ticket stub is in the future to come.


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#2028072 - 02/20/18 09:20 AM Re: Next Starting 5 [Re: INation]
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#2028110 - 02/21/18 06:24 AM Re: Next Starting 5 [Re: INation]
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No way Vick is dating a girl that hot!
He's a basketball player, but he's not making NBA money yet. smile

With his French-braided Princess Leah hairdo, I kind of wondered if he liked girls. (not that there's anything wrong with that)
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