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#1992134 - 06/12/15 04:39 PM Re: Royals Transaction [Re: Maximus]
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Wilt Chamberlain

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Alex Gordon trade watch it about to start. Royals now accept all and any high quality offer.

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#1992241 - 06/15/15 01:39 PM Re: Royals Transaction [Re: Maximus]
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#1992366 - 06/20/15 12:50 PM Re: Royals Transaction [Re: Maximus]
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Wilt Chamberlain

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#1992446 - 06/24/15 03:35 PM Re: Royals Transaction [Re: Maximus]
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Wilt Chamberlain

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Johnny Giavotella was mismanaged by the Royals. Stuck in AAA for four years and hitting above .300.

Should have been promoted full time at age 22 once at AA.

2015 27 Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim $516,250 1.055
2015 Status Signed thru 2015, Earliest Arb Eligible: 2017,
Earliest Free Agent: 2020

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#1992536 - 06/29/15 09:28 AM Re: Royals Transaction [Re: Maximus]
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Wilt Chamberlain

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Former high ranked prospect Mike Montgomery looking good in Seattle.

Drafted by the Kansas City Royals in the 1st round (36th) of the 2008 MLB June Amateur Draft from William S. Hart HS (Santa Clarita , CA).

Prospect Ratings by Baseball America:
Pre-2010: Rated #39 Prospect
Pre-2011: Rated #19 Prospect
Pre-2012: Rated #23 Prospect

Mike Montgomery struck out 10 in a complete-game shutout Tuesday against the Royals. Should Royals fans blame Dayton for this loss?

Mike Montgomery! Who knew? The former Royals prospect, who was part of the Wil Myers-James Shields trade, was looked at as a reliever by the Rays this spring before being traded to the Mariners for Erasmo Ramirez. Give the Mariners some credit for the pickup, but it's not like they knew what they had here when they left him in Triple-A for the first two months of the season. Montgomery has a 2.05 ERA in five starts since his callup. He struck out just 12 batters in his first four starts, but he was missing bats tonight. He can't be this good, but he's showing enough to suggest that he'll be a fourth or fifth starter going forward.
(Rotoworld.com)


Mr. Glass, what were you thinking?
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#1992890 - 07/14/15 12:41 PM Re: Royals Transaction [Re: Maximus]
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Jon Gray

Dayton fails to sign him and he ends up as a #1 draft choice for another club. Why draft a player if you don't plan on signing?
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#1992895 - 07/14/15 03:17 PM Re: Royals Transaction [Re: Maximus]
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Ask the Yankees the same thing. Drafted him even higher in 10th round. The dude is 4-6 with an almost 5 ERA and 1.5 WHIP in AAA. Nothing too special.

Drafting and not signing kids is more common than one might think. Especially with their rules where they can go right after high school, then go to college, and get drafted maybe a few more times if they don't like money. The Astros drafted someone Rd. 1 Pick 1 and didn't sign them. Much better than Round 13 Pick 389 overall.

And the Rays traded Montgomery away after Royals did. So that's two teams that didn't like what they saw. I'll gladly take an unhittable Wade Davis over a flash in the pan prospect any day.
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#1992960 - 07/17/15 09:25 AM Re: Royals Transaction [Re: Maximus]
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Jake Odorizzi

ERA 2.30
K 68
BB 18

Zack Greinke flashback of watching him perform for another club and then remembering that Zack Greinke was traded for Jake Odorizzi and wondering why we gave up Greinke if Dayton was only going to trade the younger version later.

Dayton Moore needs to go.

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#1992962 - 07/17/15 09:55 AM Re: Royals Transaction [Re: Maximus]
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#1992972 - 07/17/15 02:06 PM Re: Royals Transaction [Re: Maximus]
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Royals Minor League Update

Green is former #1 Draft picks

Top 12
Age 22 Raul Mondesi- SS- AA Avg .252
Age 23 Sean Manaea- LHP- A+ ERA 3.66 WHIP 1.322 H9 10.1
Age 23 Kyle Zimmer- RHP- AA ERA 1.40 WHIP .857
Age 22 Miguel Almonte- RHP- AA ERA 4.03 WHIP 1.37
Age 23 Huner Dozier- 3B- AA Avg .226
Age 19 Foster Griffin- LHP- A ERA 6.44 WHIP 1.63
Age 19 Scott Blewett- RHP-A ERA 4.07 WHIP 1.17
Age 22 Jorge Bonifacio- OF- AA Avg .240
Age 18 Chase Valott- A- Avg .204
Age 22 Christian Binford, RHP- AAA ERA 5.86
Age 23 Orlando Calixte, SS- AAA Avg .218
Age 22 Bubba Starling- OF- AA Avg .263

This will get Dayton Moore fired next year.

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#1992984 - 07/17/15 10:28 PM Re: Royals Transaction [Re: Maximus]
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Wilt Chamberlain

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1975 Royals
Wins 91
Losses 71

George Brett
John Mayberry
Hal McRae
Freddie Patek
Amos Otis
Harmon Killebrew

Steve Busby
Dennis Leonard


1977 Royals
Wins 102
Losses 60
John Mayberry
George Brett
Amos Otis
Al Cowens
Hal McRae

Dennis Leonard
Jim Colborn
Paul Splittorff

1980 Royals
Wins 97
Losses- 65

Willie Aikens
George Brett
Willie Wilson
Hal McRae
John Wathan

Larry Gura
Dennis Leonard
Dan Quisenberry

1982
Wins- 90
Losses- 72

Frank White
George Brett
Willie Wilson
John Wathan
Hal McRae

Dan Quisenberry

1985 Royals
Wins 91
Losses- 71

Steve Balboni
Frank White
George Brett
Willie Wilson
Lonnie Smith

C. Leibrandt
Bret Saberhagen
Danny Jackson
Mark Gubicza
Dan Quisenberry

1989 Royals
Wins- 92
Losses- 70

George Brett
Frank White
Kevin Seitzer
Bo Jackson
Danny Tartabull
Jim Eisenreich

Bret Saberhagen
Mark Gubicza
Tom Gordon
Jeff Montgomery

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#1993053 - 07/21/15 02:21 PM Re: Royals Transaction [Re: Maximus]
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#1993132 - 07/25/15 07:01 PM Re: Royals Transaction [Re: Maximus]
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Kevin Seitzer hit .323 with 15 home runs and 207 hits (tying the MLB record) in his rookie 1987 season and didn't win Rookie of the Year as he was voted second best.

Amazing!

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#1993140 - 07/26/15 02:51 PM Re: Royals Transaction [Re: Maximus]
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Royals Trade review.

Mike Aviles

July 30, 2011: Traded by the Kansas City Royals to the Boston Red Sox for Kendal Volz (minors) and Yamaico Navarro. General Manager- Dayton Moore
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#1993141 - 07/26/15 02:55 PM Re: Royals Transaction [Re: Maximus]
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Scott Podsednik, Dayton Moore, and The Contest

by Matt Klaassen - January 8, 2010

"One might be tempted to see the Royals’ signing of outfielder Scott Podsednik as a move to steal the headlines in the wake of cross-state rival St. Louis’ big Matt Holliday contract earlier this week. Or maybe they just wanted to sneak in the bad news on Friday. Close observers, however, know better. This is all part of The Contest.

I’m not exactly sure what the goal of The Contest is: to put together a team that might contend in 2005, get fired, or to shatter the blogosphere’s Universal Snark-O-Meter in one fell blow, but it’s been apparent for some time now that Royals General Manager Dayton Moore and his Mets counterpart Omar Minaya have been involved in some sort of bizarre rivalry for at least the last year. It’s been a real back-and-forth (forgive the shaky chronology):

* Dayton acquires Mike Jacobs, Kyle Farnsworth, Horacio Ramirez, and Willie Bloomquist as part of a misguided attempt to contend.

* Omar responds by giving Oliver Perez three years and $36 million (aka, “The Jose Guillen Special”).

* The same week that the Royals trade prospects for Yuniesky Betancourt, the Mets trade Ryan Church for Jeff Francoeur (the latter must really have burned Dayton up inside).

* Omar accuses a reporter critical of a fired Mets official of gunning for a job with the Mets.

* In the midst of a near 100-loss season, Dayton lectures Royals fans on their lust for instant gratification and admonishes them to “trust the process.”

* Dayton understandably allows two below-average catchers to walk (Miguel Olivo and John Buck), but then signs Zombie Jason Kendall for more than either Olivo or Buck get on the open market.

* Omar, bidding against himself, manages to overpay Jason Bay by at least $15-$20 million.

It was obviously Dayton’s time to shine. And shine he did.

The terms of the deal haven’t been made public yet (to my knowledge). But what kind of player is the 34-year-old Podsednik at this point?

CHONE has Podsednik projected for a context-neutral .271/.333/.367, 9 runs below average per 150 games. My own projection is .269/.324/.384, -8/150. Defensively, CHONE’s TotalZone projection is +4 in left field (Podsednik’s primary position the last few seasons) per 150 games. Jeff Zimmerman has him at -2. My projection includes basestealing (in short: he steals a lot, but gets caught too much to be worth it), but as far as his baserunning goes otherwise, he’s average at best at this point.

Per 150 games (which Podsednik hasn’t played since 2004): let’s call it +1 defense, -7 prorated positional adjustment for left field, -9 offense + 20 replacement level = 0.5 WAR player. Fans have so far projected Podsednik at 0.2 WAR for 2010.

I haven’t seen the terms of the deal yet. I’ve heard rumors or one year, one million dollars, and even at $3.5 million per marginal win, at 0.5 WAR, that’s sort of reasonable… sounding.

Except that it’s still a terrible decision. Let’s put it this way: the Royals aren’t exactly at a point at which they should be spending more for a marginal win — they are one of the worst teams in the American League. It’s a slight bargain at best, and assuming (perhaps foolishly) that Moore didn’t spring for more than one year, a player with this sort of projection needs to have some upside, and Podsednik is 34 years old.

Moreover, what does this mean in relation to opportunity cost? Podsednik is 34 years old and his primary position the last few years is left field. Of course, one of the few above-average position players the Royals have is their current left fielder David DeJesus, probably a 2.5-3.0 WAR player in 2010. DeJesus is good enough defensively that he could probably be at least adequate in center (certainly better than Podsednik), but his arm (despite 2009’s impressive statistical showing in left) won’t play in right. Podsednik doesn’t have the arm for right, either… which leaves center field, something Dayton Moore has repeatedly hinted at with his talk of “speedy center fielder” (roles!) all offseason.

Leaving aside the reality that Podsednik is at best barely above average defensively in left field, thus implying a disaster in center field (where he last played full-time in 2004), the Royals already have two center fielders on the roster. One is the recently signed replacement-level Brian Anderson (Moore is apparently adding former White Sox to his palette of former Braves and Mariners). Anderson, at least, is young-ish enough to have some upside, although why Moore felt he had to give Anderson a major-league deal worth $0.7M with performance incentives is beyond me. Even worse, the Royals have Mitch Maier. Maier is nothing special — he’s probably a good fourth outfielder at best — a 1.0-1.5 WAR player. But he’s 28, at the minimum, and the Royals aren’t contending (even for .500) in 2010: this is the year to play Maier and see what he’s got and save a bit of cash. But Dayton has other ideas.

Even if Maier wasn’t around, Podsednik isn’t close to good enough to be an Iwamura-type “let’s at least have someone respectable out there” — in that case, there are still far superior players like FanGraphs-favorites Ryan Church and Gabe Gross available, and the market shows that superior players to Podsednik, such as Langerhans, are going for less than Brian Anderson money.

I could go on, but you get the picture: this deal makes no sense… unless you know about The Contest.

Your move, Omar.

[Update: As pointed out in the comments, I completely negleted to factor in Dayton’s brilliant ‘banning’ of Rany Jazayerli for criticizing the Royals’ medical staff. I apologize for the embarrassing oversight on my part. This really puts Omar behind… how many years and millions to Bengie Molina is it going to take for him to catch up?]"



Previously, I pointed out (check the name link) that the Orioles have been a graveyard for washed up Cubs players in recent years. Kansas City is looking to be the White Sox equivalent (Moore has made more trades with Kenny Williams (now 5) than any other GM during his brief reign as GM of the Royals). According to MLBTradeRumors, the Royals are close to signing “a speedy outfielder” who is speculated to be Scott Podsednik. That would put the following ex-White Sox on the 25-man roster since Moore took over as GM in 2006:

C-Miguel Olivo
1B-Ross Gload
2B-Chris Getz
3B-Josh Fields
INF-Tony Graffanino
OF-Scott Podsednik
SP-Kip Wells
RP-Horacio Ramirez
RP-David Riske

From this list, I see a bunch of utility players and DFA candidates. Is it possible to build a 25-man roster of White Sox-turned-Royals players since 2002? We’ve already got an infield.

If you make this a revolving door system and include the crap Kenny Williams has taken from the Royals, you could also add the following players to our hypothetical team:

3B-Mark Teahen
CL-Mike MacDougal
CL-Octavio Dotel
INF-Andy Sisco
RP-D.J. Carrasco
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