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#2013312 - 01/12/17 10:11 AM Re: Ryan Willis [Re: kylecof11]
carp Offline
Baby Jay

Registered: 10/05/10
Most people don't understand the recruiting process for quarterbacks or other positions. Ryan had the misfortune of being recruited and signing under one head coach and trying to play for another head coach. When a new coach comes in the old players are on a short leash because they are not the new head coaches player. It is easy for the new head coach to discard the old players and play his recruits that way he can say I am bringing in better talent even if he is not. Mangino, Gill, Weis, Beaty all did this. I've seen KU players get moved to different positions by the new college coach and get moved back to their original position by the NFL coach and make the NFL team. I've seen KU players get dismissed from KU from their new college coach, start for another D-1 school and make a NFL team. I feel players should be able to transfer without sitting out of a year if they're recruiting coach gets fired or leaves for another coaching job. I wish Ryan the best

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#2013340 - 01/12/17 03:39 PM Re: Ryan Willis [Re: KUCO_VOC]
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Wilt Chamberlain

Registered: 08/31/08
Loc: Kansas
Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
Originally Posted By: Kman_blue
It is interesting that he's going there as a walkon and giving up his full scholarship here at KU.

I did like his competitiveness here as well as his physical toughness, and maybe that competitiveness has him believing he can earn a scholarship at VaTech quickly.
Doesn't this suggest to anyone here that the level of commitment to the current Kansas coaching staff is declining?
No
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#2013345 - 01/12/17 04:24 PM Re: Ryan Willis [Re: kylecof11]
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Pure Jayhawk

Registered: 01/03/15
Loc: Kansas
Why couldn't it had been the trainwreck Cozart??

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#2013348 - 01/12/17 05:00 PM Re: Ryan Willis [Re: Kman_blue]
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KU1980

Registered: 05/22/08
Loc: Denver, CO
Originally Posted By: Kman_blue
Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
Originally Posted By: Kman_blue
It is interesting that he's going there as a walkon and giving up his full scholarship here at KU.

I did like his competitiveness here as well as his physical toughness, and maybe that competitiveness has him believing he can earn a scholarship at VaTech quickly.
Doesn't this suggest to anyone here that the level of commitment to the current Kansas coaching staff is declining?
No
After your hitler comment, you now speak for everyone? Bad karma.
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#2013350 - 01/12/17 05:08 PM Re: Ryan Willis [Re: Josh2408]
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KU1980

Registered: 05/22/08
Loc: Denver, CO
Originally Posted By: Josh2408
Why couldn't it had been the trainwreck Cozart??
Cozart is a fine representative for the University. Pick on the real culprits for Kansas success.
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#2013357 - 01/12/17 05:32 PM Re: Ryan Willis [Re: kylecof11]
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Registered: 12/16/09
Loc: KCMO
I was going to comment on this post until I read KUCO doing his usual bullying...I do give him credit for Troll Of The Year honors as he trolls EVERYONE!
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#2013359 - 01/12/17 05:35 PM Re: Ryan Willis [Re: kylecof11]
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Wilt Chamberlain

Registered: 11/25/06
IMO he got screwed. IMO he should have been the starter day one of fall camps. IMO he might have been shoved down the list because of the off season injury. IMO that injury put him in the DB doghouse. If it was the case of "coach plays the players he recruited" wouldn't Stanley have been the starter on day one?

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#2013360 - 01/12/17 05:37 PM Re: Ryan Willis [Re: pizzanbeer]
TheBashman Offline
Baby Jay

Registered: 03/02/06
Originally Posted By: pizzanbeer
Beaty didn't do him any favors either with the QB rotation.


I don't buy this one bit. The old saying is "If you have two Quarterbacks, you really have none" and it fit here perfectly.

Cozart nor Willis could separate themselves from each other. They both made incredibly dumb decisions and were not progressing enough to justify giving either the job. There is a reason that we never won a game with Willis starting, and while yeah, the team was terrible, every team SHOULD win a game or two now and then (see UT 2016).

I hope Willis the best, but this reminds me exactly of when Jordan Webb left. Everyone wanted to blame Weis for not giving him a fair shot, but the truth was, as he showed at Colorado, he just wasn't that good.

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#2013361 - 01/12/17 05:45 PM Re: Ryan Willis [Re: vmlb]
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Baby Jay

Registered: 03/02/06
Originally Posted By: vmlb
IMO he got screwed. IMO he should have been the starter day one of fall camps. IMO he might have been shoved down the list because of the off season injury. IMO that injury put him in the DB doghouse. If it was the case of "coach plays the players he recruited" wouldn't Stanley have been the starter on day one?


DB clearly didn't believe that Stanley was mentally ready for the job, or else I have a hard time believing that he didn't outplay both Willis and Cozart.

Willis was given over a full year to prove what he was worth, and he failed. No question in my mind do we beat TCU with Stanley starting. 6 INT's in 2 games from a Sophomore with experience isn't going to cut it given the current state of KU football affairs.

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#2013362 - 01/12/17 05:47 PM Re: Ryan Willis [Re: KUCO_VOC]
rockchalkjjjhawk Offline
Seer

Registered: 11/20/04
If you envision a son to be a pro QB prospect, what better exposure and connection was there at the time than HC CW? I mean he was part of (valid or not) Brady's early career. And he wasn't courted by the top programs at the time. If it had been known that CW would immediately leave, there's no doubt that a deal would have been made to walkon somewhere.

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#2013365 - 01/12/17 06:49 PM Re: Ryan Willis [Re: 58hawk]
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KU1980

Registered: 05/22/08
Loc: Denver, CO
Originally Posted By: 58hawk
I was going to comment on this post until I read KUCO doing his usual bullying...I do give him credit for Troll Of The Year honors as he trolls EVERYONE!
Between the hitler comment (kman's)and your "bullying" comment I can't decide who has worst manners in posting. Trump pulled the hitler card this week as well. Guess I go with the 3rd reich...
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#2013366 - 01/12/17 06:50 PM Re: Ryan Willis [Re: rockchalkjjjhawk]
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KU1980

Registered: 05/22/08
Loc: Denver, CO
Originally Posted By: rockchalkjjjhawk
If you envision a son to be a pro QB prospect, what better exposure and connection was there at the time than HC CW? I mean he was part of (valid or not) Brady's early career. And he wasn't courted by the top programs at the time. If it had been known that CW would immediately leave, there's no doubt that a deal would have been made to walkon somewhere.
Good comment. If Weis had had more time, who knows if Willis would be transferring now.
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#2013375 - 01/12/17 07:49 PM Re: Ryan Willis [Re: KUCO_VOC]
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Wilt Chamberlain

Registered: 08/31/08
Loc: Kansas
Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
Originally Posted By: Kman_blue
Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
Originally Posted By: Kman_blue
It is interesting that he's going there as a walkon and giving up his full scholarship here at KU.

I did like his competitiveness here as well as his physical toughness, and maybe that competitiveness has him believing he can earn a scholarship at VaTech quickly.
Doesn't this suggest to anyone here that the level of commitment to the current Kansas coaching staff is declining?
No
After your hitler comment, you now speak for everyone? Bad karma.
No, I speak for me and I'd be a part of the group of "anyone", so I spoke up.

As for your characterization of my previous metaphor illustrating the obvious flaws in your reasoning as a "hitler comment" that's about as accurate as your poor reasoning was. Either that or you're just being intellectually dishonest or have some preoccupation with hitler.

No mention of Gandhi either....hhhmmm....I'm leaning to you being both dishonest and having some kind of hero worship with hitler.
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#2013377 - 01/12/17 08:19 PM Re: Ryan Willis [Re: kylecof11]
Josh2408 Offline
Pure Jayhawk

Registered: 01/03/15
Loc: Kansas
Cozart is not a QB he will never be even an average QB. Let him be the Mascot I'm sure he could hit throw tossing teeshirts

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#2013386 - 01/12/17 09:40 PM Re: Ryan Willis [Re: kylecof11]
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KU1980

Registered: 05/22/08
Loc: Denver, CO
kman - you mentioned him, you own him.

I do think you regert bringing it up. No pun intended !
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