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#2012676 - 12/20/16 01:07 PM Likens to ASU
pizzanbeer Offline
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Registered: 07/03/09
Rivals reports Beaty hired Garrett Riley as QB coach. Riley does not have much coaching experience. From Rivals, "Riley earned his first collegiate position in 2012 as running backs coach at Augustana (Ill.) College...Riley was on the staff at ECU a total of three seasons, his first two as an offensive assistant working alongside Lincoln Riley. Riley joined the Kansas staff after spending the 2015 season as the outside receivers coach at East Carolina."

I am not a fan of Beatys play calling and hoped Beaty would replace Likens with a legit OC. We will see how this works out.

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#2012679 - 12/20/16 01:08 PM Re: Likens to ASU [Re: pizzanbeer]
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Congrats to Coach Riley! Can't wait to see what he does with our QB's. Comes from a very good coaching family.

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#2012680 - 12/20/16 01:09 PM Re: Likens to ASU [Re: pizzanbeer]
kylecof11 Offline
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Registered: 07/20/09
Loc: Kansas
Darn it you beat me.

Riley was under his brother with those good ECU offenses for a while and I think he's got the ability to coach the QBs pretty well.
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#2012683 - 12/20/16 01:23 PM Re: Likens to ASU [Re: pizzanbeer]
dgless21 Offline
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Kyle, you can delete your own thread. Just click edit on the two posts and delete them...then it'll go away.

But yeah, I don't think this is overly surprising after Likens being demoted last year.

Riley did some decent work at ECU, but it is yet to be seen how he'll do with Stanley, Willis, Bender, and/or Starks.
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#2012684 - 12/20/16 01:28 PM Re: Likens to ASU [Re: dgless21]
pizzanbeer Offline
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I think Beaty wants more experience as an OC so if things don't work out it will be easier for him to find a position as an OC after KU. That is good planning on his part just not sure its the best plan for KU football.

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#2012686 - 12/20/16 02:17 PM Re: Likens to ASU [Re: pizzanbeer]
kylecof11 Offline
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Registered: 07/20/09
Loc: Kansas
Thanks dgless..

I think that Beaty just doesn't have anyone he trusts just yet to run the offense. Likens did in year 1, and it wasn't that great and year 2 wasn't much better..

I think once Riley gets at least 1 year of on-field coaching at this level, than Beaty could hand the reins over to him.
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#2012687 - 12/20/16 03:35 PM Re: Likens to ASU [Re: pizzanbeer]
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My wish for 2017 didn't even make it to Jan 1st...no staff changes so that the players would have a stable, yet under-experienced, coaching staff to learn from. Oh, well.
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#2012688 - 12/20/16 03:59 PM Re: Likens to ASU [Re: KUCO_VOC]
58hawk Offline
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Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
My wish for 2017 didn't even make it to Jan 1st...no staff changes so that the players would have a stable, yet under-experienced, coaching staff to learn from. Oh, well.
Much ado about nothing. Likens clearly wanted more responsibility after being demoted. If he's like his brother Lincoln Riley then we have a real gem. Now I still would like to see a new OC but doesn't look like Beaty is going to do anything.
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#2012689 - 12/20/16 04:14 PM Re: Likens to ASU [Re: pizzanbeer]
jhawkblue Offline
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Registered: 10/28/13
Not real excited that the only change to our already unproven and inexperienced staff is the promotion of a guy who only has 1 year of on field coaching experience while he was coaching outside receivers for his brother

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#2012690 - 12/20/16 05:09 PM Re: Likens to ASU [Re: pizzanbeer]
KUCO_VOC Offline
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Registered: 05/22/08
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Zenger suddenly realized the doubling of Beatys salary is offset by the larger salary of Likens leaving. That's a wise money decision...Likens earned his money.
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#2012692 - 12/20/16 05:11 PM Re: Likens to ASU [Re: pizzanbeer]
KUCO_VOC Offline
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Registered: 05/22/08
Loc: Denver, CO
Originally Posted By: pizzanbeer
Rivals reports Beaty hired Garrett Riley as QB coach. Riley does not have much coaching experience. From Rivals, "Riley earned his first collegiate position in 2012 as running backs coach at Augustana (Ill.) College...Riley was on the staff at ECU a total of three seasons, his first two as an offensive assistant working alongside Lincoln Riley. Riley joined the Kansas staff after spending the 2015 season as the outside receivers coach at East Carolina."

I am not a fan of Beatys play calling and hoped Beaty would replace Likens with a legit OC. We will see how this works out.
It was an internal promotion not a new hire.
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#2012700 - 12/20/16 07:49 PM Re: Likens to ASU [Re: pizzanbeer]
bigdogjac Offline
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Registered: 05/11/10
Loc: Oklahoma
Looks like a good move. It should be no surprise Likens was leaving. I just wish DB would give up the OC job.
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#2012704 - 12/20/16 10:22 PM Re: Likens to ASU [Re: bigdogjac]
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Registered: 10/28/13
Originally Posted By: bigdogjac
Looks like a good move. It should be no surprise Likens was leaving. I just wish DB would give up the OC job.


What if anything leads you to believe this is a good move it sure isn't based on his years of proven experience as a QB coach, I would think that if he had shown the same type of abilities as his brother that he would have found some type of offensive asst position with him in Norman.

The fact is no one can actually know if he can coach or not, he has no real experience to base a decision on , all we can do is hope that DBs faith in him to coach QBs works out better than his faith in his own ability to perform the OC duties

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#2012707 - 12/20/16 10:43 PM Re: Likens to ASU [Re: pizzanbeer]
appyhawk Offline
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Registered: 05/17/04
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I think a very interesting thing about this change is to see how Likens does at ASU.
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#2012708 - 12/20/16 11:12 PM Re: Likens to ASU [Re: pizzanbeer]
Josh2408 Offline
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Is this Arizona State he went to??? Just checking if their is another ASU.

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#2012710 - 12/21/16 04:19 AM Re: Likens to ASU [Re: Josh2408]
KUCO_VOC Offline
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Registered: 05/22/08
Loc: Denver, CO
Originally Posted By: Josh2408
Is this Arizona State he went to??? Just checking if their is another ASU.
He will be a WR coach at Arizona State. Replaces a guy who moved on to be HC at Nevada. WR is the strength area for Likens. ASU was pretty good on offense this year horrible on d.
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#2012714 - 12/21/16 08:17 AM Re: Likens to ASU [Re: pizzanbeer]
Josh2408 Offline
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So then this seems like a wash for Arizona State, just gonna make their offense better. But not really what they needed

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#2012715 - 12/21/16 08:40 AM Re: Likens to ASU [Re: pizzanbeer]
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ASU may fire the DC so look out for Bowen being plucked from Kansas!
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#2012717 - 12/21/16 11:23 AM Re: Likens to ASU [Re: pizzanbeer]
bigdogjac Offline
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Registered: 05/11/10
Loc: Oklahoma
It's no different than any other coaching moves DB has made. Time will tell. Running Back coach had no college experience and so far he appears to be a good hire. Otherwise, it is a good move for Likens and we will see about Riley!
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#2012724 - 12/21/16 05:51 PM Re: Likens to ASU [Re: pizzanbeer]
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Registered: 10/02/13
I'm with you bigdog, on wishing Beaty would hire a full time OC to call plays. Any play caller causes us to scratch our collective heads sometimes, but I have never been a big fan of the head coach calling plays. He's already got enough on his plate. Same goes for the Chiefs.
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#2012728 - 12/21/16 06:10 PM Re: Likens to ASU [Re: KUCO_VOC]
58hawk Offline
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Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
ASU may fire the DC so look out for Bowen being plucked from Kansas!
News flash: Bowen isn't going anywhere, especially for a lateral move.
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#2012734 - 12/21/16 06:18 PM Re: Likens to ASU [Re: 58hawk]
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Originally Posted By: 58hawk
Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
ASU may fire the DC so look out for Bowen being plucked from Kansas!
News flash: Bowen isn't going anywhere, especially for a lateral move.
ASU is bowling. Lateral move! Snort!

Re-read my post. He is ripe for a better offer somewhere.
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#2012738 - 12/21/16 06:25 PM Re: Likens to ASU [Re: KUCO_VOC]
58hawk Offline
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Registered: 12/16/09
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Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
Originally Posted By: 58hawk
Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
ASU may fire the DC so look out for Bowen being plucked from Kansas!
News flash: Bowen isn't going anywhere, especially for a lateral move.
ASU is bowling. Lateral move! Snort!

Re-read my post. He is ripe for a better offer somewhere.
The only bowling ASU is going to is the bowling alley...
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#2012751 - 12/21/16 10:02 PM Re: Likens to ASU [Re: 58hawk]
KUCO_VOC Offline
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Originally Posted By: 58hawk
Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
Originally Posted By: 58hawk
Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
ASU may fire the DC so look out for Bowen being plucked from Kansas!
News flash: Bowen isn't going anywhere, especially for a lateral move.
ASU is bowling. Lateral move! Snort!

Re-read my post. He is ripe for a better offer somewhere.
The only bowling ASU is going to is the bowling alley...
Quit stalking me you idiot.

Every GD post...
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#2012755 - 12/21/16 10:20 PM Re: Likens to ASU [Re: 58hawk]
KUCO_VOC Offline
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Registered: 05/22/08
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Originally Posted By: 58hawk
Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
Originally Posted By: 58hawk
Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
ASU may fire the DC so look out for Bowen being plucked from Kansas!
News flash: Bowen isn't going anywhere, especially for a lateral move.
ASU is bowling. Lateral move! Snort!

Re-read my post. He is ripe for a better offer somewhere.
The only bowling ASU is going to is the bowling alley...
ASU has gone to FIVE straight bowl games and was an early favorite for a sixth one, won five and lost one early on in 2016 season. God, get a life,58.

If going to ASU is a lateral, please name the five previous consecutive bowls KU went to (2012-6 bowl games). Now go away.
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#2012761 - 12/22/16 10:45 AM Re: Likens to ASU [Re: KUCO_VOC]
58hawk Offline
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Registered: 12/16/09
Loc: KCMO

Re-read my post. He is ripe for a better offer somewhere. [/quote] The only bowling ASU is going to is the bowling alley... [/quote]ASU has gone to FIVE straight bowl games and was an early favorite for a sixth one, won five and lost one early on in 2016 season. God, get a life,58.

If going to ASU is a lateral, please name the five previous consecutive bowls KU went to (2012-6 bowl games). Now go away. [/quote] Re-read your original post. You said they are going bowling, which is present tense. You didn't say anything about the last five bowl games.
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#2012766 - 12/22/16 11:42 AM Re: Likens to ASU [Re: 58hawk]
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Registered: 05/22/08
Loc: Denver, CO
Originally Posted By: 58hawk

Re-read my post. He is ripe for a better offer somewhere.
The only bowling ASU is going to is the bowling alley... [/quote]ASU has gone to FIVE straight bowl games and was an early favorite for a sixth one, won five and lost one early on in 2016 season. God, get a life,58.

If going to ASU is a lateral, please name the five previous consecutive bowls KU went to (2012-6 bowl games). Now go away. [/quote] Re-read your original post. You said they are going bowling, which is present tense. You didn't say anything about the last five bowl games. [/quote]

For 58 - "is bowling" is not the same as "they are going bowling in 2017" re-read and then re-read again. Carry on. NOT a lateral move for Likens to be hired at ASU after enduring KU futility in any sense of the term either.
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#2012768 - 12/22/16 01:51 PM Re: Likens to ASU [Re: KUCO_VOC]
dgless21 Offline
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58 is saying ASU is not present in the current bowl season. They went 5-7. They are not going bowling in 2016. He is not discussing 2017 at all.

58, rightfully, is saying KUCO is wrong because he said, "ASU is bowling," when in real life, ASU is not (presently) bowling.
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#2012769 - 12/22/16 03:19 PM Re: Likens to ASU [Re: dgless21]
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Registered: 05/22/08
Loc: Denver, CO
Originally Posted By: dgless21
58 is saying ASU is not present in the current bowl season. They went 5-7. They are not going bowling in 2016. He is not discussing 2017 at all.

58, rightfully, is saying KUCO is wrong because he said, "ASU is bowling," when in real life, ASU is not (presently) bowling.

This is getting stupider as it goes along. Main point here, which by now is buried, Likens new job is NOT a lateral move. You, 58, are incorrect. You were incorrect. And in the future you may always be incorrect. Did I cover the various tenses for the denses?
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#2012772 - 12/22/16 04:29 PM Re: Likens to ASU [Re: pizzanbeer]
dgless21 Offline
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Amazing how you post something blatantly incorrect like "ASU is bowling," and you still are too much of an asshat to admit you were wrong.

Likens new job isn't a lateral move. It is a better program, and it's a step backward in title. Pay has yet to be announced.

If that was your main point, why not just say that? Adding an incorrect statement brings nothing to your main point.
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#2012775 - 12/22/16 06:13 PM Re: Likens to ASU [Re: dgless21]
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Registered: 05/22/08
Loc: Denver, CO
Originally Posted By: dgless21
Amazing how you post something blatantly incorrect like "ASU is bowling," and you still are too much of an asshat to admit you were wrong.

Likens new job isn't a lateral move. It is a better program, and it's a step backward in title. Pay has yet to be announced.

If that was your main point, why not just say that? Adding an incorrect statement brings nothing to your main point.
ASU is bowling is the opposite to Kansas isn't bowling asshat. And I did say just that. 58 is, was, and as usual potentially in the future wrong in saying "lateral". Literally.
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#2012776 - 12/22/16 06:32 PM Re: Likens to ASU [Re: KUCO_VOC]
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For 58 - "is bowling" is not the same as "they are going bowling in 2017" re-read and then re-read again. Carry on. NOT a lateral move for Likens to be hired at ASU after enduring KU futility in any sense of the term either.[/quote] Never said Likens is a lateral move. I said Bowen going there was. Jesus! Are you really that stupid?
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#2012780 - 12/22/16 07:19 PM Re: Likens to ASU [Re: KUCO_VOC]
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Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
ASU is bowling is the opposite to Kansas isn't bowling asshat. And I did say just that. 58 is, was, and as usual potentially in the future wrong in saying "lateral". Literally.


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#2012781 - 12/22/16 08:24 PM Re: Likens to ASU [Re: pizzanbeer]
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Registered: 11/25/06
This all depends on what KUCO's definition of what the word "is" is.

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#2012787 - 12/22/16 11:19 PM Re: Likens to ASU [Re: pizzanbeer]
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Registered: 05/22/08
Loc: Denver, CO
In a "Likens to ASU" topic, EITHER of the two coaches MENTIONED going would better their careers by going to ASU in their respective coaching areas. Enuf said. Not LATERAL move(s) at all. Literally.

Is that all better now??? I can now imagine you two poring over all previous posts here looking for minute issues to bring up.
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#2012788 - 12/22/16 11:21 PM Re: Likens to ASU [Re: vmlb]
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Loc: Denver, CO
Originally Posted By: vmlb
This all depends on what KUCO's definition of what the word "is" is.
If only I had Clinton's sense of timing with Monica. 😂
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#2012797 - 12/23/16 08:18 AM Re: Likens to ASU [Re: 58hawk]
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Originally Posted By: KUCO
For 58 - "is bowling" is not the same as "they are going bowling in 2017" re-read and then re-read again. Carry on. NOT a lateral move for Likens to be hired at ASU after enduring KU futility in any sense of the term either.
58 reply - Jesus! Are you really that stupid?
I get dumber everytime you post, 58.


Edited by KUCO_VOC (12/23/16 08:22 AM)
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#2012800 - 12/23/16 09:11 AM Re: Likens to ASU [Re: pizzanbeer]
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It took this entire thread to do it, but..."I get dumber everytime you post, 58" the kook finally got something right!

Keep up the good work 58.
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#2012806 - 12/23/16 11:20 AM Re: Likens to ASU [Re: appyhawk]
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Registered: 05/22/08
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Originally Posted By: appyhawk
It took this entire thread to do it, but..."I get dumber everytime you post, 58" the kook finally got something right!

Keep up the good work 58.
Likens to ASU. Did you mention that anywhere in your post? I feel stupid for wasting time reading your garbage. I guess there is "always chaff in amongst the wheat"...now be sure to look up what that means.
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#2012808 - 12/23/16 11:39 AM Re: Likens to ASU [Re: KUCO_VOC]
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Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
Originally Posted By: appyhawk
It took this entire thread to do it, but..."I get dumber everytime you post, 58" the kook finally got something right!

Keep up the good work 58.
Likens to ASU. Did you mention that anywhere in your post? I feel stupid for wasting time reading your garbage. I guess there is "always chaff in amongst the wheat"...now be sure to look up what that means.

Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

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#2012810 - 12/23/16 12:55 PM Re: Likens to ASU [Re: track]
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Originally Posted By: track
Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
Originally Posted By: appyhawk
It took this entire thread to do it, but..."I get dumber everytime you post, 58" the kook finally got something right!

Keep up the good work 58.
Likens to ASU. Did you mention that anywhere in your post? I feel stupid for wasting time reading your garbage. I guess there is "always chaff in amongst the wheat"...now be sure to look up what that means.

Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
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#2012811 - 12/23/16 12:59 PM Re: Likens to ASU [Re: pizzanbeer]
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Now that Bowen (? Possibly?) is going to go, who is next to flee? Off season so let's discuss...
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#2012824 - 12/24/16 01:49 PM Re: Likens to ASU [Re: pizzanbeer]
bigdogjac Offline
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Lookout appyhawk, he may want to sucker punch you!
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#2012826 - 12/24/16 03:02 PM Re: Likens to ASU [Re: bigdogjac]
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Registered: 05/22/08
Loc: Denver, CO
Originally Posted By: bigdogjac
Lookout appyhawk, he may want to sucker punch you!
Nope. Just you you hillbilly.
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#2012830 - 12/25/16 05:54 PM Re: Likens to ASU [Re: KUCO_VOC]
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Registered: 12/16/09
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Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
Now that Bowen (? Possibly?) is going to go, who is next to flee? Off season so let's discuss...
Yea I know your idea of a "discussion".
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#2012833 - 12/25/16 08:36 PM Re: Likens to ASU [Re: 58hawk]
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Originally Posted By: 58hawk
Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
Now that Bowen (? Possibly?) is going to go, who is next to flee? Off season so let's discuss...
Yea I know your idea of a "discussion".
Discuss something or let it go is my suggestion. I don't think you understand why I say you just have become a stalker here.
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#2012842 - 12/26/16 02:44 PM Re: Likens to ASU [Re: pizzanbeer]
58hawk Offline
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Its not like you are the only one I respond to so your accusation is false.
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#2013005 - 01/03/17 05:08 AM Re: Likens to ASU [Re: pizzanbeer]
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I guess we are up to 20% staff turnover so far. WR coach to Oregon State. Wonder if they think air raid offense would work better in PAC.
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