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#1939178 - 07/24/13 04:00 PM Re: Royals v Baltimore : Jul 22-25 [Re: rockchalker5]
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Originally Posted By: rockchalker5
Chen has given us quality starts

quality starts > nothing


I'm sure the Titanic had high quality deck chairs.
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#1939297 - 07/24/13 09:23 PM Re: Royals v Baltimore : Jul 22-25 [Re: JFish26]
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Originally Posted By: JFish26
Originally Posted By: rockchalker5
Chen has given us quality starts

quality starts > nothing


I'm sure the Titanic had high quality deck chairs.


That's funny.

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#1939304 - 07/24/13 09:45 PM Re: Royals v Baltimore : Jul 22-25 [Re: pwhittemore]
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Well alright...good game mofos....
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#1939309 - 07/24/13 09:51 PM Re: Royals v Baltimore : Jul 22-25 [Re: pwhittemore]
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On the surface it seems like KC is making it real tough to decided to deal Santana and consider letting Holland go.

On the surface that is. I love the wins and all but both should go if we can get something in return. Playing for 2nd or third place and .500 is not my idea of making a run. A lot of really good pieces in place now. Get some good bats and GASP maybe a 2b and RF and boys in blue might mike a legit run next year.
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#1939319 - 07/24/13 10:08 PM Re: Royals v Baltimore : Jul 22-25 [Re: pwhittemore]
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Damn dude. Your a real downer.
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#1939321 - 07/24/13 10:10 PM Re: Royals v Baltimore : Jul 22-25 [Re: pwhittemore]
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Ok ...I will just ask this one more time....who and what team would give up decent players for Santana..and Holland also. No I dont see that happening. But will some baseball expert bonehead on here tell me who is on the block for a trade with Santana. Better be a hell of a bat .
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#1939326 - 07/24/13 10:24 PM Re: Royals v Baltimore : Jul 22-25 [Re: pwhittemore]
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You have to get some promising returns, yes. Else you stay pat and wait for the offer you want.

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#1939333 - 07/24/13 10:36 PM Re: Royals v Baltimore : Jul 22-25 [Re: PHOGUSHER]
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Originally Posted By: PHOGUSHER
Ok ...I will just ask this one more time....who and what team would give up decent players for Santana..and Holland also. No I dont see that happening. But will some baseball expert bonehead on here tell me who is on the block for a trade with Santana. Better be a hell of a bat .


Off of the top of my head the Braves, D-Backs, Oriols and Reds could us bullpen and or SP help. If you want to risk trading inside your division the Tigers would probably jump given they have an aging owner overpaying about everybody because he wants a ring before he checks out. The Jays need SP as well.

As far as a bat goes there is no reason DM (other than he is DM) could not pull off a deal like Tampa Bay and the Rangers did for Garza. Odds of Santana coming back are really slim and letting him go for no return would be crazy. How about AT LEAST going after a Henry Urrutia and some kind of 2 for one?

The fact is closers on non contending teams are extremely over valued and keeping one when you could get something in return is bad baseball. Don't believe it? I offer you Soria as an example in a long line of examples of getting nothing out of a reliever while he is hot when a team is not playing for anything anyway.


Edited by jayhwk01 (07/24/13 10:39 PM)
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#1939346 - 07/24/13 10:59 PM Re: Royals v Baltimore : Jul 22-25 [Re: jayhwk01]
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Originally Posted By: jayhwk01
I offer you Soria as an example in a long line of examples of getting nothing out of a reliever while he is hot when a team is not playing for anything anyway.


And I offer you Soria as proof that Dayton thinks trading Holland right now is crayzee.
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#1939364 - 07/24/13 11:43 PM Re: Royals v Baltimore : Jul 22-25 [Re: CrimsonNBlue]
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Originally Posted By: CrimsonNBlue
Originally Posted By: jayhwk01
I offer you Soria as an example in a long line of examples of getting nothing out of a reliever while he is hot when a team is not playing for anything anyway.


And I offer you Soria as proof that Dayton thinks trading Holland right now is crayzee.


And unfortunately you are right.
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#1939410 - 07/25/13 09:05 AM Re: Royals v Baltimore : Jul 22-25 [Re: jayhwk01]
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Originally Posted By: jayhwk01
Originally Posted By: PHOGUSHER
Ok ...I will just ask this one more time....who and what team would give up decent players for Santana..and Holland also. No I dont see that happening. But will some baseball expert bonehead on here tell me who is on the block for a trade with Santana. Better be a hell of a bat .


Off of the top of my head the Braves, D-Backs, Oriols and Reds could us bullpen and or SP help. If you want to risk trading inside your division the Tigers would probably jump given they have an aging owner overpaying about everybody because he wants a ring before he checks out. The Jays need SP as well.


The Orioles have already aquired Scott Feldman (SP) and K Rod (RP) this season. The Blue Jays are 10 games under .500 in the toughest division in baseball....so I don't see them trading any value away. The D-Backs are in a similar spot as the Royals, so 50/50 shot whether they are trying to win this year or not. Trade Santana or Holland to the Tigers? No way.

Point is that its real easy to say that we should trade trade trade. But the fact is that nobody knows any details. How do you know that DM didn't try to trade Santana to the Rangers? Maybe he wanted Profar and couldn't get him.
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#1939411 - 07/25/13 09:12 AM Re: Royals v Baltimore : Jul 22-25 [Re: rockchalker5]
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Tee Y

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Originally Posted By: rockchalker5
How do you know that DM didn't try to trade Santana to the Rangers? Maybe he wanted Profar and couldn't get him.


If Dayton pulled off that magic, I'd cease complaining.
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#1939414 - 07/25/13 09:37 AM Re: Royals v Baltimore : Jul 22-25 [Re: pwhittemore]
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38 innings, 1.89 ERA, 0.921 WHIP, 62/11 K/BB

37 innings, 1.95 ERA, 0.892 WHIP, 38/10 K/BB

One of those pitchers would net a king's ransom in a trade. One would get a bucket of balls. Both seem quite qualified to close for the Royals for the remainder of the season.
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#1939415 - 07/25/13 09:40 AM Re: Royals v Baltimore : Jul 22-25 [Re: JFish26]
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Give away both if Boston wants to open door #2.
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#1939417 - 07/25/13 09:43 AM Re: Royals v Baltimore : Jul 22-25 [Re: pwhittemore]
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Max Falkenstien

Registered: 03/17/05
Loc: KC, MO
Yes. There's no such thing as a third base tree, but there damn sure is such a thing as a reliever tree.
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