I think you should absolutely think about trading those guys. Nobody should be off limits. Especially Santana and Holland, since Santana probably won't resign here and having a lights out closer doesn't make much difference on a bad team. Holland could easily break down at some point given his size.

Lol pretty douchey comment. I'm on a Royals board w a bunch of homers who absolutely hate being told the truth about their team. I'm a realist. I know the Indians are far from winning a World Series and I can actually come to grip w/ it. But what I can't stand is people talking sh*t when their team hasn't done anything the last 20+ years and is no where close to being remotely relevant

Reads just like timtim. Solid work.

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No you are on a board where most are realistic about their Royals. We have complained about the poor play as we have cheered about the limited good games. Yes we know we have had 20 + years of futility so is that better or worse than the Tribes 30 + years of futility from the 60s-90s. I can accept taking a ribbing from a Yankees,Cardinals, hell even a Red Sox fan about the piss poor Royals. I will not however accept crap from a fan of the clown Cleveland Indians...Your team has sucked for a 30 year span before and it will again. So go away Ohio Timmy. I never liked douches from Ohio, and you havent changed my mind about that.

Boom. Roasted.

LOL at Indians and Royals fans arguing.

Lets face it...you're both small market losers in the crappy AL Central and are irrelevant in terms of competing for the World Series every year.

Oh great now this bonehead chimes in...let me guess ...Either a Yankee...Red Sox...Mets...Dodgers...or Cardinals fan most likely...How easy is it to be a fan of those teams.

"I can accept taking a ribbing from a Yankees,Cardinals, hell even a Red Sox fan about the piss poor Royals. I will not however accept crap from a fan of the clown Cleveland Indians...Your team has sucked for a 30 year span before and it will again. So go away Ohio Timmy. I never liked douches from Ohio, and you havent changed my mind about that."

Ask and you shall receive...
The last thing I'm going to say to all you is at least my team is relevant in the world of the MLB and can actually compete year in & year out. They will continue to do so more than the Royals for every year to come & I can say that proudly. Why don't all of you just continue to hold onto a World Series victory almost 30 years old.

Try telling your fans that your team is relevant.

http://espn.go.com/mlb/attendance/_/sort/homePct

Lol...that is piss poor. Like 14s' posts.

I'm not from Cleveland, or even Ohio. And honestly, you don't think I know that the Indians fan base is piss poor?? They've had horrible attendance like that for a lot longer then I've been posting on this board. Why don't you show me some facts that I don't see multiple times each year. I would be more than happy if the Indians were relocated to a city where they could get people to show up. But welcome to the world of 9% unemployment & people not wanting to come to games during weekdays.

Why don't you take a look @ that list & realize that the Royals are only two teams ahead of the Indians on the average attendance list. If I lived in Cleveland I would go to games for $8 each and every night no matter what the product of the squad is. However, I feel like I can't say the same for the majority of this message board.

And that's all you need to know.

Okay... Give me your reasoning?
Because I wasn't born & raised in Ohio determines my knowledge & love for a team?

I do like the Indians fan telling us to forget about the '85 series, when his team hasn't won one since before the Korean War (1948).

I have no enmity towards you, by the way, and would encourage you to keep posting here, so long as you bring solid baseball info. I just thought that was funny.