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#1935707 - 07/14/13 10:43 PM Who's most to blame?
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Edited by CrimsonNBlue (07/14/13 10:46 PM)
Edit Reason: Why can't I post a poll in an original post?
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#1935708 - 07/14/13 10:45 PM Re: Who's most to blame? [Re: CrimsonNBlue]
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Who do you blame?
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#1935717 - 07/15/13 02:07 AM Re: Who's most to blame? [Re: CrimsonNBlue]
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I'm not a fan of Ned Yost. That being said, it seems pretty clear that Moore made the Shields trade in order to save his own hide. Who else would trade the top prospect in baseball for a 1-year rental pitcher who is already 31?

There is only one reason a GM would do that. Out of desperation In order to try to save his job

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#1935718 - 07/15/13 02:25 AM Re: Who's most to blame? [Re: outlawhawk79]
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#1935719 - 07/15/13 02:28 AM Re: Who's most to blame? [Re: CrimsonNBlue]
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#1935731 - 07/15/13 08:14 AM Re: Who's most to blame? [Re: CrimsonNBlue]
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People have been making runs at her forever.

I'm not sure this is Moore's fault.
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#1935733 - 07/15/13 08:15 AM Re: Who's most to blame? [Re: outlawhawk79]
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Originally Posted By: outlawhawk79
I'm not a fan of Ned Yost. That being said, it seems pretty clear that Moore made the Shields trade in order to save his own hide. Who else would trade the top prospect in baseball for a 1-year rental pitcher who is already 31?

There is only one reason a GM would do that. Out of desperation In order to try to save his job


I'm not a fan of a lot of Dayton Moore moves, but IMO you are wrong on this.
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#1935740 - 07/15/13 08:44 AM Re: Who's most to blame? [Re: CrimsonNBlue]
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Outlaw is a sock of the yoder...
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#1935751 - 07/15/13 09:19 AM Re: Who's most to blame? [Re: CrimsonNBlue]
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The lineup that KC ran out yesterday should be the lineup from here on out. Escobar should be at the bottom and it gives your 4 best hitters the most AB's in Gordon, Hos, Butler and Sal.

Why Escobar has hit second at all is perplexing. Granted the bats have been atrocious especially with Gordon all of a sudden going cold. Sal is still a few years away from being a dominant hitter. Hosmer has been very inconsistent but has been better with Grifol and Brett. Billy has "struggled" compared to previous years and he really causes problems for KC when he is on the bases because his speed and awareness on the bases aren't the best. Which is why teams like to walk him.
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#1935753 - 07/15/13 09:25 AM Re: Who's most to blame? [Re: jammahawk]
rockchalker5 Offline
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Registered: 11/21/12
Loc: KC, KS
Originally Posted By: jammahawk
Originally Posted By: outlawhawk79
I'm not a fan of Ned Yost. That being said, it seems pretty clear that Moore made the Shields trade in order to save his own hide. Who else would trade the top prospect in baseball for a 1-year rental pitcher who is already 31?

There is only one reason a GM would do that. Out of desperation In order to try to save his job


I'm not a fan of a lot of Dayton Moore moves, but IMO you are wrong on this.


Dayton made the trade to try and win now. Not sure why this is so confusing to many.

I suppose we can all sit around and wait for the next "prospect" to come around and save us. Or we can try and improve now, get past the losing culture that is so deeply imbedded in the Royals DNA by at least being competitive. We as Royals fans need to get past the obsession of who is in our farm system. You think the average Cardnials or Rangers fans gives a sh*t when they trade away a prospect? No, because they are to busy paying attention to the big league team...which is where your focus should be.

Dayton had some balls, made a trade that doesn't appear to be paying off at the moment. But calling it a failure is still pre-mature.
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#1935862 - 07/15/13 03:03 PM Re: Who's most to blame? [Re: jammahawk]
CrimsonNBlue Offline
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Originally Posted By: jammahawk
Originally Posted By: outlawhawk79
I'm not a fan of Ned Yost. That being said, it seems pretty clear that Moore made the Shields trade in order to save his own hide. Who else would trade the top prospect in baseball for a 1-year rental pitcher who is already 31?

There is only one reason a GM would do that. Out of desperation In order to try to save his job


I'm not a fan of a lot of Dayton Moore moves, but IMO you are wrong on this.


I don't think it's that far-fetched to say that Dayton knew that move was pretty important as to whether his contract gets extended or not.
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#1935868 - 07/15/13 03:12 PM Re: Who's most to blame? [Re: jammahawk]
outlawhawk79 Offline
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Registered: 07/07/13
Originally Posted By: jammahawk
Originally Posted By: outlawhawk79
I'm not a fan of Ned Yost. That being said, it seems pretty clear that Moore made the Shields trade in order to save his own hide. Who else would trade the top prospect in baseball for a 1-year rental pitcher who is already 31?

There is only one reason a GM would do that. Out of desperation In order to try to save his job


I'm not a fan of a lot of Dayton Moore moves, but IMO you are wrong on this.



I've talked to other people about this, and they all agree with me.

If you noticed TB isn't desperate for pitching. They have a young stud named Chris Archer, who was called last month. However, he's been lights out in July. In two months, Archer's numbers are better than Shields on the entire year, basically.

You just don't trade the top prospect in Baseball for a one-year, 31 year old rent-a-pitcher unless you're desperate and trying to save your own job

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#1935870 - 07/15/13 03:14 PM Re: Who's most to blame? [Re: PHOGUSHER]
outlawhawk79 Offline
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Registered: 07/07/13
Originally Posted By: PHOGUSHER
Outlaw is a sock of the yoder...


What is a 'yoder'?

I have zero clue as to what you're talking about. I can see you're one of those posters who just attempts to cause trouble as opposed to actually 'contributing' to a thread

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#1935877 - 07/15/13 03:21 PM Re: Who's most to blame? [Re: CrimsonNBlue]
outlawhawk79 Offline
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Registered: 07/07/13
Originally Posted By: CrimsonNBlue
Originally Posted By: jammahawk
Originally Posted By: outlawhawk79
I'm not a fan of Ned Yost. That being said, it seems pretty clear that Moore made the Shields trade in order to save his own hide. Who else would trade the top prospect in baseball for a 1-year rental pitcher who is already 31?

There is only one reason a GM would do that. Out of desperation In order to try to save his job


I'm not a fan of a lot of Dayton Moore moves, but IMO you are wrong on this.


I don't think it's that far-fetched to say that Dayton knew that move was pretty important as to whether his contract gets extended or not.



I agree, not far-fetched at all, since it appears to be a fact.

I think Moore did okay with the Escobar-Greinke trade. I think the Shields trade was a miserable fail. Especially when you consider the fact that Davis looks like minor league material, which is the icing on the cake of a terrible trade.

If Moore could just draft pitching like TB apparently can, KC could hold on to the top prospects in baseball when they get them

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#1935883 - 07/15/13 03:31 PM Re: Who's most to blame? [Re: CrimsonNBlue]
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Registered: 11/21/12
Loc: KC, KS
Originally Posted By: CrimsonNBlue
Originally Posted By: jammahawk
Originally Posted By: outlawhawk79
I'm not a fan of Ned Yost. That being said, it seems pretty clear that Moore made the Shields trade in order to save his own hide. Who else would trade the top prospect in baseball for a 1-year rental pitcher who is already 31?

There is only one reason a GM would do that. Out of desperation In order to try to save his job


I'm not a fan of a lot of Dayton Moore moves, but IMO you are wrong on this.


I don't think it's that far-fetched to say that Dayton knew that move was pretty important as to whether his contract gets extended or not.


Yeah because he knows that they need to start winning to get extened. Which is what he was trying to do.
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