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#1901644 - 04/25/13 09:42 AM Re: James Shields [Re: Maximus]
JFish26 Offline
Max Falkenstien

Registered: 03/17/05
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Well, to be fair, the trade showed that the Royals had quite a bit of money to spend. What they didn't spend on Shields could have been applied to other pitching.
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#1901657 - 04/25/13 10:13 AM Re: James Shields [Re: Maximus]
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And I also find it hard to believe the Royals, had they kept Myers, would have him down in Omaha.

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#1901670 - 04/25/13 10:30 AM Re: James Shields [Re: Maximus]
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Max Falkenstien

Registered: 03/17/05
Loc: KC, MO
The same financial considerations as are keeping him in Durham would have him in Omaha.
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#1901697 - 04/25/13 11:21 AM Re: James Shields [Re: JFish26]
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Wilt Chamberlain

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Originally Posted By: JFish26
The same financial considerations as are keeping him in Durham would have him in Omaha.



So you have pointed out facts that I agree with the Royals having extra money. Shield is getting paid 11,250,000 this year with an option for next.

Once again, if you still want to undo this trade, how did you replace Shields 4 game start with an ERA of 3.00 with 26K's and WIP of 1.11?
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#1901704 - 04/25/13 11:29 AM Re: James Shields [Re: Maximus]
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Max Falkenstien

Registered: 03/17/05
Loc: KC, MO
Well, playing along with the silly "let's judge everything by what's happened as of April 25" game...

Shields: 3.00 ERA in 27 innings.

Ryan Dempster: 3.38 (24)

Anibal Sanchez: 1.75 (25.1)

Kyle Lohse: 2.52 (25)

Kevin Correia: 2.86 (28.1)

Hiroki Kuroda 2.35 (23)
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#1901750 - 04/25/13 12:11 PM Re: James Shields [Re: Maximus]
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Wilt Chamberlain

Registered: 03/06/09
Loc: Lawrence
Originally Posted By: Maximus
Originally Posted By: yoda
Let me break it down for you again Maximus. Myers will be a superstar — Shields is solid, but will never be a superstar. The Royals lost this trade. Hope that is clear enough for you


One guy has been an All-Star and had successful career in MLB. The other guy has only had success in the minor leagues.

What am I missing here?

Please stop as you think your on a trolling roll and you are failing.





Played baseball for 15 years. What about you?

Win fantasy baseball leagues every year. What about you?

Plus Maximus, this thread was dead until I came on and made the FIRST comment. Obviously nobody cared. So I guess my 'trolling' suddenly woke up your thread that nobody cared about.

I now regret ever commenting on your stupid thread. Won't ever make that mistake again. I provided my opinion of the trade -- and you get really offended. What's the point of ever commenting if your going to act like a little kid calling starting with the name-calling?

And by the way, you asked 'what has the other guy (Myers) ever done'? How about Baseball America's Minor League Player of the Year — in 2012.


Maximus, hate to break this to you, but you just aren't very bright. You and black and mild have a lot in common, you really do
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#1901918 - 04/25/13 03:24 PM Re: James Shields [Re: yoda]
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Wilt Chamberlain

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Originally Posted By: yoda
Maximus, hate to break this to you, but you just aren't very bright. You and black and mild have a lot in common, you really do



I'll take that as a complement.
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#1901928 - 04/25/13 03:32 PM Re: James Shields [Re: JFish26]
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Wilt Chamberlain

Registered: 10/30/12
Loc: Trance Land
Originally Posted By: JFish26
Well, playing along with the silly "let's judge everything by what's happened as of April 25" game...

Shields: 3.00 ERA in 27 innings.

Ryan Dempster: 3.38 (24)

Anibal Sanchez: 1.75 (25.1)

Kyle Lohse: 2.52 (25)

Kevin Correia: 2.86 (28.1)

Hiroki Kuroda 2.35 (23)




OK,

You are assuming you can get them to sign a contract to play for the Royals. Someone like Sanchez resigned and someone like Dempster with a previous ERA 5.09 should never have been thought about. Hindsight cannot be used as the trade that was went down during the winter.

I'll assume your done with this discussion unless you want to continue to debate over the matter.
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#1901981 - 04/25/13 04:18 PM Re: James Shields [Re: Maximus]
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Wilt Chamberlain

Registered: 01/30/09
Loc: Lawrence, Kansas
Oh boy, we know this thread has gone to hell when Maximus posts four times consecutively and Yoda cites his fantasy baseball victories as part of his argument.
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#1902108 - 04/25/13 08:46 PM Re: James Shields [Re: Maximus]
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Wilt Chamberlain

Registered: 03/06/09
Loc: Lawrence
This thread was actually dead in the water until I posted. Maximus is the one who [censored] it up
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#1902344 - 04/26/13 12:17 PM Re: James Shields [Re: christgs80]
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Registered: 01/02/05
Loc: In the Corleone compound
Originally Posted By: christgs80
And I also find it hard to believe the Royals, had they kept Myers, would have him down in Omaha.


You had better believe it, because the Royals wouldn't have started his service time until they had to.
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#1904533 - 05/01/13 01:06 PM Re: James Shields [Re: jammahawk]
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Registered: 01/02/05
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Yeah, that trade really sucks. Shields stops a two game skid that in previous years the Royals would have used as a spring board to begin a double didgit losing streak.
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#1904573 - 05/01/13 02:22 PM Re: James Shields [Re: Maximus]
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Wilt Chamberlain

Registered: 03/06/09
Loc: Lawrence
I agree to an extent. As far as Myers, it's more about him being a potential superstar down the road on the same level as Harper and Trout
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#1904801 - 05/01/13 07:37 PM Re: James Shields [Re: Maximus]
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Wilt Chamberlain

Registered: 01/30/09
Loc: Lawrence, Kansas
Wil Myers WILL NOT be Harper or Trout. He is going to be a very good player. Mike Trout and Bryce Harper are going to be HOFers, barring severely injury-plagued careers.
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#1905647 - 05/02/13 09:51 PM Re: James Shields [Re: KUSPORTSFAN93]
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Wilt Chamberlain

Registered: 03/06/09
Loc: Lawrence
Originally Posted By: KUSPORTSFAN93
Wil Myers WILL NOT be Harper or Trout. He is going to be a very good player. Mike Trout and Bryce Harper are going to be HOFers, barring severely injury-plagued careers.


He won't steal bases like Trout or even Harper, but he has plus/plus power and projects to be an excellent defensive player. All this added up, he has superstar potential like that of Trout and Harper. Just not the same base stealing type potential.

And how do you know that Myers won't one day wind up in the Hall of Fame? Just curious since he is Baseball America's No. 1 overall prospect
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