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#1177353 - 04/05/10 06:13 AM [censored] DUKE... **
hawk61 Offline
Max Falkenstein

Registered: 02/12/04
Loc: somewhere watching a KU game
THAT IS ALL....
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#1177354 - 04/05/10 07:31 AM Re: [censored] DUKE... [Re: hawk61]
kjay1955 Offline
Jayhawk since 66

Registered: 05/26/04
Loc: Dallas, TX
I'd love to see the poll #'s of Americans that want Duke to loose tonight (or Butler win).

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#1177355 - 04/05/10 09:15 AM Re: [censored] DUKE... [Re: kjay1955]
alexoobers Offline
Crimson & Blue Blood

Registered: 01/19/10
Quote:

I'd love to see the poll #'s of Americans that want Duke to loose tonight (or Butler win).





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#1177356 - 04/05/10 09:35 AM Re: [censored] DUKE... [Re: hawk61]
minhin Offline
Uh Oh

Registered: 02/20/08
Loc: ...in the warm sun
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#1177357 - 04/05/10 09:42 AM Re: [censored] DUKE... [Re: minhin]
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Wilt Chamberlain

Registered: 04/19/03
F>ck Duke ... and the rat they rode in on.
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#1177358 - 04/05/10 09:46 AM Re: [censored] DUKE... [Re: kellyfenton]
dnvrhawk Offline
Phog Fanatic

Registered: 01/26/05
Loc: Ganja State
LOL!
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#1177359 - 04/05/10 10:33 AM Re: [censored] DUKE... [Re: alexoobers]
5DecadeHawk Offline
Otto Schnellbacher

Registered: 11/22/07
Quote:







Delaware Drunkards!
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#1177360 - 04/05/10 10:36 AM Re: [censored] DUKE... [Re: 5DecadeHawk]
alexoobers Offline
Crimson & Blue Blood

Registered: 01/19/10
updated polls


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#1177361 - 04/05/10 10:38 AM Re: [censored] DUKE... [Re: alexoobers]
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Wilt Chamberlain

Registered: 04/19/03
Duke has lost two percentage points. Have they been showing Duke flops or has Coach K held a press conference recently?
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#1177362 - 04/05/10 10:40 AM Re: [censored] DUKE... [Re: kellyfenton]
Geezer Offline
To serve & protect

Registered: 01/08/06
Loc: JayhawkLaw office Lobby
Dickey V was probably on somewhere.
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#1177363 - 04/05/10 10:47 AM Re: [censored] DUKE... [Re: Geezer]
redrover Offline
friend2allNME2nun

Registered: 09/04/08
if i mention josh selby in this thread, can it be locked? its just so mean-spirited.
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#1177364 - 04/05/10 10:52 AM Re: [censored] DUKE... [Re: redrover]
5DecadeHawk Offline
Otto Schnellbacher

Registered: 11/22/07
Quote:

if i mention josh selby in this thread, can it be locked? its just so mean-spirited.




Mr Gorbachev, tear down this thread?
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#1177365 - 04/05/10 11:11 AM Re: [censored] DUKE... [Re: 5DecadeHawk]
JayJayPG Offline
Baby Jay

Registered: 11/18/05
Loc: Overland Park, KS
According to the little globe on the bottom right of that ESPN poll, even seafaring people and oceanic creatures want Butler to win.

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#1177366 - 04/05/10 11:27 AM Re: [censored] DUKE... [Re: JayJayPG]
caddystacks Offline
Jhaux

Registered: 11/21/09

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#1177367 - 04/05/10 11:39 AM Re: [censored] DUKE... [Re: caddystacks]
tmcats Offline
Wilt Chamberlain

Registered: 09/08/02
Loc: reservation lake, mn
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^jayhawk envy^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
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#1177368 - 04/05/10 11:47 AM Re: [censored] DUKE... [Re: tmcats]
Geezer Offline
To serve & protect

Registered: 01/08/06
Loc: JayhawkLaw office Lobby
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^jayhawk envy^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
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#1177369 - 04/05/10 11:50 AM Re: [censored] DUKE... [Re: caddystacks]
DantheMan Offline
Crimson & Blue Blood

Registered: 11/13/08
Loc: Not enough TV sets
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#1177370 - 04/05/10 12:01 PM Re: [censored] DUKE... [Re: DantheMan]
DantheMan Offline
Crimson & Blue Blood

Registered: 11/13/08
Loc: Not enough TV sets
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#1177371 - 04/05/10 12:05 PM Re: [censored] DUKE... [Re: DantheMan]
DantheMan Offline
Crimson & Blue Blood

Registered: 11/13/08
Loc: Not enough TV sets


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#1177372 - 04/05/10 12:46 PM Re: [censored] DUKE... [Re: DantheMan]
caddystacks Offline
Jhaux

Registered: 11/21/09

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#1177373 - 04/05/10 01:03 PM Re: [censored] DUKE... [Re: caddystacks]
FELONY Offline
Crimson & Blue Blood

Registered: 11/23/07
Loc: HEART OF THE NATION
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#1177374 - 04/05/10 01:13 PM Re: [censored] DUKE... [Re: FELONY]
larryb2 Offline
Am I Wrong?

Registered: 11/22/09
Loc: United Center

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#1177375 - 04/05/10 01:15 PM Re: [censored] DUKE... [Re: hawk61]
JayJayPG Offline
Baby Jay

Registered: 11/18/05
Loc: Overland Park, KS
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#1177376 - 04/05/10 01:23 PM Re: [censored] DUKE... [Re: JayJayPG]
DrPepper Offline
US Marshal, Kansas Territory

Registered: 09/18/03
Loc: Buffalo, NY
The only Duke game I've seen in the last several years was a bit of Duke vs Baylor. What got to me was the three-point shooters jumping into or kicking the defender.

IMO, this is worse than trying to beat your defender to a spot on the floor.

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#1177377 - 04/05/10 01:35 PM Re: [censored] DUKE... [Re: DrPepper]
tmcats Offline
Wilt Chamberlain

Registered: 09/08/02
Loc: reservation lake, mn
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^duke envy continues unabated^^^^^^^^^^^^
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#1177378 - 04/05/10 01:38 PM Re: [censored] DUKE... [Re: tmcats]
CrimsonNBlue Offline
Tee Y

Registered: 10/04/05
Loc: KC, MO
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^big bro envy continues unabated^^^^^^^^^^^^
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#1177379 - 04/05/10 01:40 PM Re: [censored] DUKE... [Re: CrimsonNBlue]
tmcats Offline
Wilt Chamberlain

Registered: 09/08/02
Loc: reservation lake, mn
hey, i'm not the one whinning about duke or kansas. i said long ago that kansas is frank's target.

here, it's like duke is something other than the best program in the country. that's simple envy.
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#1177380 - 04/05/10 01:45 PM Re: [censored] DUKE... [Re: tmcats]
Ryan2845 Offline
Max Falkenstien

Registered: 09/05/05
Quote:

i said long ago that kansas is frank's target.




So why can't Duke be one of KU's targets? Why does KU have to target lesser teams like MU and KSU? Why is KU most KSU fan's target if not envy? Why do KSU fans act like KU is something other than one of the top programs in the country?

Your attempts to differentiate KU's interest in Duke from KSU's interest in KU is comical.

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#1177381 - 04/05/10 01:49 PM Re: [censored] DUKE... [Re: Ryan2845]
CrimsonNBlue Offline
Tee Y

Registered: 10/04/05
Loc: KC, MO
Duke is a machine. I respect them. Duke is also largely overrated by the media. Duke has also been the 2nd best program in their state since a certain coach landed in chapel hill.

somehow tmcats is the one person outside of the state of north carolina who likes duke and criticizes others for not liking them. he's like the one yankee fan in the entire bar in 2004.
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#1177382 - 04/05/10 02:00 PM Re: [censored] DUKE... [Re: CrimsonNBlue]
tmcats Offline
Wilt Chamberlain

Registered: 09/08/02
Loc: reservation lake, mn
i just grow weary of loser-to-north iowa fans demeaning a truly great program and coach. coach k will go down as perhaps the greatest of all time. he graduates great kids. they play splendid basketball without chest pumping self implosions. dickie v gives as much to kansas as he does duke. it's just that duke is an easier target for affection.
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#1177383 - 04/05/10 02:01 PM Re: [censored] DUKE... [Re: CrimsonNBlue]
caddystacks Offline
Jhaux

Registered: 11/21/09

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#1177384 - 04/05/10 02:05 PM Re: [censored] DUKE... [Re: tmcats]
Ryan2845 Offline
Max Falkenstien

Registered: 09/05/05
Quote:

i just grow weary of loser-to-north iowa fans demeaning a truly great program and coach.




love it, complaining about KU fans mocking Duke while mocking KU.

LOL

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#1177385 - 04/05/10 02:13 PM Re: [censored] DUKE... [Re: Ryan2845]
alexoobers Offline
Crimson & Blue Blood

Registered: 01/19/10
Ha, that JJ sign made me laugh

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#1177386 - 04/05/10 02:18 PM Re: [censored] DUKE... [Re: Ryan2845]
caddystacks Offline
Jhaux

Registered: 11/21/09
not to get too Fred Phelpsian here

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#1177387 - 04/05/10 02:20 PM Re: [censored] DUKE... [Re: alexoobers]
caddystacks Offline
Jhaux

Registered: 11/21/09
Quote:

Ha, that JJ sign made me laugh


totally classic, look at the dude peeking backwards...lol

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#1177388 - 04/05/10 02:25 PM Re: [censored] DUKE... [Re: tmcats]
HawkRawker Offline
Eunuch

Registered: 11/04/07
Loc: Jayhawk Nation
[censored] Duke, this year is such a fluke. Must be the year of the rat.
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#1177389 - 04/05/10 02:29 PM Re: [censored] DUKE... [Re: caddystacks]
alexoobers Offline
Crimson & Blue Blood

Registered: 01/19/10

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#1177390 - 04/05/10 02:30 PM Re: [censored] DUKE... [Re: tmcats]
DantheMan Offline
Crimson & Blue Blood

Registered: 11/13/08
Loc: Not enough TV sets
Quote:

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^duke envy continues unabated^^^^^^^^^^^^




Honestly, I haven't even seen Duke as serious competition for about 5 years. It's been hard to take their soft, unathletic teams seriously lately. They have been consistently overrated, and they play a flop-ridden, floor slapping, feet kicking brand of basketball that is truly annoying.

Despite your assertions, they have NOT been the top program in the country for awhile. Not even in their conference. I have generally rooted for Duke against UNC because UNC has been a more serious threat to KU's national position and recruiting efforts.

Seriously, if Duke would have had an early exit this year, they would have faded further into insignificance.
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#1177391 - 04/05/10 02:31 PM Re: [censored] DUKE... [Re: alexoobers]
alexoobers Offline
Crimson & Blue Blood

Registered: 01/19/10

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#1177392 - 04/05/10 02:43 PM Re: [censored] DUKE... [Re: alexoobers]
Kirk Offline
Lawrence Legend

Registered: 09/25/05
Loc: Austin
Duke by 10 tonight

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#1177393 - 04/05/10 02:53 PM Re: [censored] DUKE... [Re: Kirk]
MICHHAWK Offline
Wilt Chamberlain

Registered: 08/29/02
Loc: Port Huron MI
Quote:

Duke by 10 tonight




Minimum. They may very well beat them by 30.

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#1177394 - 04/05/10 03:11 PM Re: [censored] DUKE... [Re: MICHHAWK]
elmac774 Offline
Crimson & Blue Blood

Registered: 06/15/09
Butler will beat Duke tonight.
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#1177395 - 04/05/10 03:25 PM dan, are you alive or just a myth like the fog? [Re: DantheMan]
tmcats Offline
Wilt Chamberlain

Registered: 09/08/02
Loc: reservation lake, mn
coach k's record...

Year Record Seed NCAA finish
1986 37-3 1 Runner-up (5-1)
87 24-9 5 Sweet 16 (2-1)
88 28-7 2 Final 4 (4-1)
89 28-2 2 Final 4 (4-1)
90 29-9 3 Runner-up (5-1)
91 32-7 2 Champion (6-0)
92 34-2 1 Champion (6-0)
93 24-8 3 2nd round (1-1)
94 28-6 2 Runner-up (5-1

1997 24-9 2 2nd round (1-1)
98 32-4 1 Elite Eight (3-1)
99 37-2 1 Runner-up (5-1)
00 29-5 1 Sweet 16 (2-1)
01 35-4 1 Champion (6-0)
02 31-4 1 Sweet 16 (2-1)
03 26-7 3 Sweet 16 (2-1)
04 31-6 1 Final 4 (4-1)
05 27-6 1 Sweet 16 (2-1)
06 31-4 1 Sweet 16 (2-1)
2010 championship
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#1177396 - 04/05/10 03:26 PM Re: dan, are you alive or just a myth? [Re: tmcats]
Geezer Offline
To serve & protect

Registered: 01/08/06
Loc: JayhawkLaw office Lobby
^^^^^^^^^^^^^Jayhawk and Duke envy^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
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#1177397 - 04/05/10 03:28 PM Re: dan, are you alive or just a myth? [Re: Geezer]
Ryan2845 Offline
Max Falkenstien

Registered: 09/05/05
Why are you skipping so many years TM, quit cherry picking lol

07-09
1st round
2nd round
sweet 16

95-96
nothing
1st round

and 81-85
NIT
nothing
nothing
2nd round
2nd round

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#1177398 - 04/05/10 03:32 PM Re: dan, are you alive or just a myth? [Re: Ryan2845]
elmac774 Offline
Crimson & Blue Blood

Registered: 06/15/09
KU and Duke have equivalent resumes over the last 10 years: 1 championship, one runner-up finish, one additional FF.
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#1177399 - 04/05/10 03:42 PM Re: [censored] DUKE... [Re: tmcats]
jayhawklouie Offline
Max Falkenstien

Registered: 11/07/09
Loc: Kansas
I got a bootleg recording of Coach K's pre-game speech before the WV game.

Coach K tells Zoubek and his other rebounders to push, shove, elbow and jump over the back of WV players all game long. You can hear Zoubek say, "but, Coach, I don't want to get called for a foul".

That's when you hear K and the whole team laugh hysterically.

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#1177400 - 04/05/10 04:39 PM Re: dan, are you alive or just a myth like the fog? [Re: tmcats]
DantheMan Offline
Crimson & Blue Blood

Registered: 11/13/08
Loc: Not enough TV sets
Quote:

coach k's record...






Your response is irrelevant and misinformed. Typical KSU fan.

My stated position was that Duke has 1) not been the top program in the country for 5 years, 2) been consistently overrated in this period.

Here are the facts regarding Duke, over the 2005-2009 time period.

2005: #1 seed, #3 Final AP poll (UNC #2, National Champions). Result: Duke falls two games short of their seed, losing in Sweet 16
2006: #1 seed, #1 Final AP poll (UNC #10). Result: Duke falls two games short of their seed (arguably more, since they were overall #1), losing in S16.
2007: #6 seed, not in Final AP poll (UNC #4). Result: Duke falls one game short of their seed, losing in first round (funny how this, and the following two results, are not in your post)
2008: #2 seed, #9 in Final AP poll (UNC #2). Result: Duke falls two games short of their seed, losing in second round.
2009: #2 seed, #6 in Final AP poll (UNC #2, National Champions). Result: Duke falls one game short of their seed, losing in S16 by 23 points to Villanova.

Over the last 5 full seasons, Duke has NEVER played to their seed in the tournament. They were a #1 seed two times in this period, overall #1 once, and failed to get past the S16 both times. They have lost in the first round once, and lost by 23 points once. In other words, they have been OVERRATED every year. Like I said.

It's pretty clear that Duke has not been king of the hill during this period. That designation probably belongs to UNC. Like I said.
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#1177401 - 04/05/10 06:03 PM Re: [censored] DUKE... [Re: hawk61]
bpritchett Offline
Phog Fanatic

Registered: 06/24/05
Loc: Exile
61, why do you hate excellence? And leadership?
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Whatever.

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#1177402 - 04/05/10 07:02 PM Re: [censored] DUKE... [Re: tmcats]
NDballer13 Offline
kusports.net

Registered: 12/02/07
Loc: North Dakota
Quote:

dickie v gives as much to kansas as he does duke.




Lol, cute.
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#1177403 - 04/05/10 07:16 PM Re: [censored] DUKE... [Re: MICHHAWK]
Kirk Offline
Lawrence Legend

Registered: 09/25/05
Loc: Austin
Quote:

Quote:

Duke by 10 tonight




Minimum. They may very well beat them by 30.




Yep. Whatever the points, I don't expect any kind of game. Second half will be snooze city.

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#1177404 - 04/05/10 07:33 PM Re: [censored] DUKE... [Re: Kirk]
spathos Offline
Lost in Aussieland

Registered: 10/06/03
Loc: Melbourne, Australia
I love this tmcat "logic": If you point out the fact that the Duke program the past few years has been characterized by skinny white boys who flop alot but can shoot threes, you are plagued by "envy".

And if you point out the fact that historically Duke has had one good coach, while KU has the inventor of Basketball, the inventor of basketball coaching (whose assistants started dynasty programs at Kentucky and North Carolina), and in the time they hired Coach K, has had three other coaches who have had success both at Kansas and either professionally or otherwise. You're suffering from "major envy". And let's not even compare Wilt, Danny Manning, Paul Pierce and many other successful pro players who were at Kansas, with the handful of good players, and the larger number of skinny white guys that hail from Duke.

So, as other posters have mentioned, the only person who is envious in this thread is the cat-backer.
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#1177405 - 04/05/10 10:52 PM Re: [censored] DUKE... [Re: spathos]
hawk61 Offline
Max Falkenstein

Registered: 02/12/04
Loc: somewhere watching a KU game
I REPEAT MYSELF...........[censored] DUKE!!!!
The committee got what they wanted!!! [censored] THEM AS WELL!!
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#1177406 - 04/05/10 11:14 PM Re: dan, are you alive or just a myth like the fog? [Re: DantheMan]
FurmanHawk Offline
Junior Jayhawk

Registered: 04/07/08
Loc: South Carolina
Quote:

Quote:

coach k's record...






Your response is irrelevant and misinformed. Typical KSU fan.

My stated position was that Duke has 1) not been the top program in the country for 5 years, 2) been consistently overrated in this period.

Here are the facts regarding Duke, over the 2005-2009 time period.

2005: #1 seed, #3 Final AP poll (UNC #2, National Champions). Result: Duke falls two games short of their seed, losing in Sweet 16
2006: #1 seed, #1 Final AP poll (UNC #10). Result: Duke falls two games short of their seed (arguably more, since they were overall #1), losing in S16.
2007: #6 seed, not in Final AP poll (UNC #4). Result: Duke falls one game short of their seed, losing in first round (funny how this, and the following two results, are not in your post)
2008: #2 seed, #9 in Final AP poll (UNC #2). Result: Duke falls two games short of their seed, losing in second round.
2009: #2 seed, #6 in Final AP poll (UNC #2, National Champions). Result: Duke falls one game short of their seed, losing in S16 by 23 points to Villanova.

Over the last 5 full seasons, Duke has NEVER played to their seed in the tournament. They were a #1 seed two times in this period, overall #1 once, and failed to get past the S16 both times. They have lost in the first round once, and lost by 23 points once. In other words, they have been OVERRATED every year. Like I said.

It's pretty clear that Duke has not been king of the hill during this period. That designation probably belongs to UNC. Like I said.




Good breakdown.
A simpler way of saying it is that Duke won one tourney game outside the state of NC in the previous 5 tournaments. By one point. Over Belmont.

Hope the tourney committee/CBS/refs with no balls don't start feeling sorry for them again for another 5 years.

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#1177407 - 04/06/10 12:08 AM Re: dan, are you alive or just a myth like the fog [Re: FurmanHawk]
larryb2 Offline
Am I Wrong?

Registered: 11/22/09
Loc: United Center
Good thing those of you who guessed Duke would beat Butler soundly (and the one person who said Butler would win) are not in the prediction business.

As far as hawk61 saying [censored] Duke, I agree - [censored] Duke but there are 300+ NCAA programs who would love to be Duke. Not saying KU is one of them but it's hard to deny Duke a spot amongst the elite programs.
Those of you who complained Duke had an easy road, please realize easy or not they won the games they had to. Something 63 other teams couldn't do. It's hard to forget KU fans were bitching that it was unfair who we might have had to play and then we lost to Northern Freaking Iowa. That wasn't a team we should have had a problem with. Duke beat 3 very good teams (yes, I realize those teams were without key players) to win the championship. I still say [censored] them but it's not as if they didn't have to earn the National Championship. I realize there are many what I feel are foolish people who disagree with me. If it makes you feel better and lessens the pain to hate Duke because you feel the committee helped Duke win the games they played - by all means think that.
To all of you that are whining about Duke because of who they played and where they have played in the past - Fair or not, Duke still had to win the games and they did. Just remember people felt KU had an easy road in 88 and where the Final Four was located didn't hurt our chances.

In closing - I will say once again, [censored] Duke. I will also say congratulations to Duke for winning yet another National Championship and congratulations to Butler for a hell of a season. On to next year!
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#1177408 - 04/06/10 08:01 AM Re: dan, are you alive or just a myth like the fog [Re: larryb2]
minhin Offline
Uh Oh

Registered: 02/20/08
Loc: ...in the warm sun
Thank heaven for remote controls. I was most successful switching from Mike & Mike in the morning & ESPN to avoid all mention of the game last night (and Dicky V comments). I did have to go to local news every once in a while. If I had no remote I probably would have lost 5 pound getting up and down changing channels (or not watch at all).

Gutter I'm with you on "On to next year!"
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