What do you think A-Rod deserves?

Posted by: outlawhawk79

What do you think A-Rod deserves? - 08/04/13 05:57 PM

I think he deserves a 214-game suspension. And really should never be allowed to suit up in a major league uniform again. The Yankees should also have to forfeit the 2009 World Series, since their best player that year was also the biggest cheater in the history of the game.

#cheat-rod

Posted by: JFish26

Re: What do you think A-Rod deserves? - 08/04/13 05:58 PM

0 games. Baseball and its players' union agreed on a testing regime. To punish Rodriguez outside of it, in my opinion, weakens the entire construct.
Posted by: WaHawk04

Re: What do you think A-Rod deserves? - 08/04/13 06:02 PM

Originally Posted By: JFish26
0 games. Baseball and its players' union agreed on a testing regime. To punish Rodriguez outside of it, in my opinion, weakens the entire construct.


I think you fail to understand what he is being suspended for.
Posted by: JFish26

Re: What do you think A-Rod deserves? - 08/04/13 06:23 PM

Ryan Braun lied and lied and lied and lied and threw a drug collector under the bus. And also he lied some more. 65 games. With a positive test.

Melky Cabrera set up a fake website to hide his dealings. 50 games. With a positive test.

I have very little doubt that Rodriguez used. But baseball and its players' union agreed on how to deal with this. If they didn't draft an agreement that covers whatever it is Rodriguez did, either they didn't mean for the agreement to cover this or they didn't draft a good agreement. Not Rodriguez's problem.

I have no dog in this fight. I think it is ultimately bad for baseball if they punish people outside the system.
Posted by: KUSPORTSFAN93

Re: What do you think A-Rod deserves? - 08/04/13 07:43 PM

I think JFish is right, from a technical standpoint. I don't like the idea of a huge punishment coming for things not outlined explicitly in the agreement. But at the same time, ARod is a giant douche, and I certainly won't be bothered if he gets slapped for the rest of this year and next.

I'm more interested to see which players get rest-of-the-year suspensions and how it affects teams in contention. Peralta (DET) and Cruz (TEX) were both having great years.
Posted by: Topcitykid10

Re: What do you think A-Rod deserves? - 08/04/13 08:02 PM

How ever many years he took that how many he should have to sit out.
Posted by: jayhwk01

Re: What do you think A-Rod deserves? - 08/04/13 09:33 PM

Originally Posted By: Topcitykid10
How ever many years he took that how many he should have to sit out.


You mean during the time Bud Selig, the players union, and everyone in baseball including the media not only knew about the roids issue but encouraged it because it sold tickets and helped land lucrative tv contracts?

Sorry but MLB is as responsible for the A-Rods as anybody. Not to mention Selig IMHO thinks by suspending a high profile player like A-Rod for this many games at the end of their collective careers will brush up his own bad image. To me it only makes Selig a worse commish than before and that is saying something because he has been garbage.

You know who really needs banned? Bud Selig with an apology to baseball fans everywhere for a lot of things but especially the steroid issue.


Don't believe this is a media play? QUICK type out the other 11 players getting suspension off the top of your head without looking as quickly as you can think of A-Rod's name......Exactly and there you have it.
Posted by: Topcitykid10

Re: What do you think A-Rod deserves? - 08/05/13 12:03 AM

Nelson Cruz, Peralta, maybe Gio Gonzales,

Now I can give to $hits about what happens to him I was just saying my two cents.

And yes Selig needs to go. Everyone will remember how his time was as the commish.
Posted by: JFish26

Re: What do you think A-Rod deserves? - 08/05/13 10:51 AM

Selig has been an absolutely fabulous commissioner.
Posted by: 1985hawk

Re: What do you think A-Rod deserves? - 08/05/13 12:42 PM

What exactly did A Rod take?
Posted by: rockchalker5

Re: What do you think A-Rod deserves? - 08/05/13 02:01 PM

Originally Posted By: JFish26
Selig has been an absolutely fabulous commissioner.


That's funny. Tell me another joke.
Posted by: outlawhawk79

Re: What do you think A-Rod deserves? - 08/05/13 02:16 PM

Originally Posted By: rockchalker5
Originally Posted By: JFish26
Selig has been an absolutely fabulous commissioner.


That's funny. Tell me another joke.




the 'j' in jfish is actually for 'janet.'

This person is actually known as 'Janet from another Planet'
Posted by: outlawhawk79

Re: What do you think A-Rod deserves? - 08/05/13 02:17 PM

Board members, do yourself a favor and don't even indulge jfish regarding his beyond absurd take on selig and a-rod
Posted by: WaHawk04

Re: What do you think A-Rod deserves? - 08/05/13 02:37 PM

I wouldn't go so far as to call Selig a fabulous commissioner, but I do think he's been a fine commissioner I have no real problems with his reign.
Posted by: NotAPuke

Re: What do you think A-Rod deserves? - 08/05/13 02:47 PM

One part of me thinks a lifetime ban would be appropriate, however, the Libertarian in me thinks that nothing should be done. If these players want to use roids and other PED's, let them, they are hurting no one but themselves. If you are going to punish A-Rod, nut up and do it in the best interests of baseball, and then banish every suspected juicer for the same reason.
Posted by: christgs80

Re: What do you think A-Rod deserves? - 08/05/13 03:08 PM

I disagree about the part where players that use roids are only hurting themselves.

They are hurting the players who are not using...the guys who might have had a roster space or a starting job taken by a guy who is cheating.

I have a problem with that.

Other players in MLB should have a problem with that.
Posted by: InfiniteJ

Re: What do you think A-Rod deserves? - 08/05/13 03:11 PM

I think they should let all the players use PED's; all records would be broken and everyone will want to watch the freak show. F*ck tradition, f*ck history.
Posted by: 1985hawk

Re: What do you think A-Rod deserves? - 08/05/13 03:39 PM

One person uses them, everyone uses them or they eventually dont play.

The reason I asked what he took, is that I use what could be coined PED's but they are common herbs which have steroid type affects. One of them was used by A-Rod. Fo-ti was one of the substances this clinic prescribed.

It is a very old Chinese herb and has lots of things for the body. The other PED I use is Tumeric. If you ate Indian cuisine you would test positive for a PED.

Herbs such as these should be allowed. Steroids no.
Posted by: AFH1

Re: What do you think A-Rod deserves? - 08/05/13 03:41 PM

MLB has become a tarnished turd of a sport.
For any of you goyyucks to continue to pay money to go to a game and have any interest in it makes you come off as suckers.
It's a sport full of bull crap lying cheaters and frauds and the "great" Commisioner knew exactly what has been going on since the strike - and has done little if anything to put a stop to it. He was too busy stroking himself when Big MacFraud and Slammy Sosominusroids were duking it out when he should have announced it's a life time ban for anyone who tests positive starting the following season.
Then came along Barry Bonds to help destroy any remaining integrity there may have been in the game.
MLB currently sucks and we are in an age that will go down in history as being by far the worst 20 year period of this horse bleep sport when it could have been and should have been the best - if the players would have still produced without PEDs.

When my roids (hemorrhoids) kick in and my balls (testicles) are really old, I might care about the game again. Until then, Baseball is JUNK!

P.S. Go Royals!
Posted by: christgs80

Re: What do you think A-Rod deserves? - 08/05/13 03:54 PM

You must hate football too.
Posted by: Geezer

Re: What do you think A-Rod deserves? - 08/05/13 04:17 PM

Gutter hates a lot of things.
So Fish, no problem with Aroid buying and destroying documts from Biogenisis? Probably no mention of that in the drug agreement either.
The Union and the players are driving this cleanup activity. They want the sport cleaner and I applaud them for it.
Posted by: KUSPORTSFAN93

Re: What do you think A-Rod deserves? - 08/05/13 04:21 PM

ARoid really will never get it. Instead of just saying he isn't ready to play tonight or something, he's playing. Batting cleanup. In Chicago. His ass is going to get booed all night.
Posted by: Geezer

Re: What do you think A-Rod deserves? - 08/05/13 04:24 PM

I think Aroid is used to being booed.
Posted by: KUSPORTSFAN93

Re: What do you think A-Rod deserves? - 08/05/13 04:29 PM

Originally Posted By: Geezer
I think Aroid is used to being booed.


Absolutely. Tonight is going to be BAD though. It's a shame he isn't at home, so he can hear it from Yankees fans.
Posted by: Geezer

Re: What do you think A-Rod deserves? - 08/05/13 04:56 PM

By now the Yankee fans may hate him more than anybody else.
Posted by: KUSPORTSFAN93

Re: What do you think A-Rod deserves? - 08/05/13 05:48 PM

Yeah, they hate him in New York. It's kind of a hypocritical hatred though. If it was Jeter getting taken down, they would have his back and scream about how unjust it is. But ARod, who took a pay cut and switched positions to play for the Yankees, is a pariah even in New York. The ego and playoff struggles don't help.
Posted by: CrimsonNBlue

Re: What do you think A-Rod deserves? - 08/05/13 06:02 PM

Yup. Jeter is Mr. October. A-Rod is Mr. March.
Posted by: jayhwk01

Re: What do you think A-Rod deserves? - 08/05/13 06:53 PM

Originally Posted By: JFish26
Selig has been an absolutely fabulous commissioner.


Fish made a funny. Ha ha
Posted by: thekid6

Re: What do you think A-Rod deserves? - 08/05/13 10:52 PM

In order to show they mean business, a lifetime ban is really needed here. I'm alright with a 214 game suspension but a lifetime ban might scare some players straight (hopefully).
Posted by: 1985hawk

Re: What do you think A-Rod deserves? - 08/06/13 05:48 PM

If things are as I understand them, MLB is dead wrong on this one. I understand that A-Rod has not failed any tests and he is just suspected of using growth hormones.

The product I believe he was taking is an anti-aging Chinese herb. It has been used in China for centuries. Certain A-Rod was trying to get an advantage, but what if he just took a vitamin? Eating dinner could be construed as trying to gain an advantage.

The herb is called Ho Shu Wu and it really makes you feel strong. Until they have proof he has taken a banned substance, I am behind A-Rod in this instance. It doesnt, however, absolve him a past use of steroids.
Posted by: JayhawkJules

Re: What do you think A-Rod deserves? - 08/06/13 07:14 PM

It's pretty impressive that 13 guys took a look at the file MLB put together on them and said, "Nope, we're good."

A-Rod deserves the 214 games, plus 50 games for each time he doinked Madonna because that's just gross.
Posted by: 1985hawk

Re: What do you think A-Rod deserves? - 08/06/13 07:28 PM

That is prima facia evidence.

Like I said, he has used steroids in the past. They havent proven it this time
Posted by: MICHHAWK

Re: What do you think A-Rod deserves? - 08/09/13 08:40 AM

I don't know why a-rod just doesn't sail off into the sunset. The game has made him rich beyond his wildest dreams. Just walk away quietly.