Hall of Fame Inductees

Posted by: jayhawk154

Hall of Fame Inductees - 01/09/07 01:31 PM

Congrats to Cal Ripken Jr. & Tony Gwynn


Mark McGwire didn't meet the standard.
Posted by: hail2oldku

Re: Hall of Fame Inductees - 01/09/07 01:34 PM

This was about as much a lock as you're gonna see for HOF voting. No surprises on this vote at all, and I suspect Mac will make it in year three or four. Of course much of it will depend upon who else is eligible at that time.
Posted by: elan71

Re: Hall of Fame Inductees - 01/09/07 01:55 PM

It's a good class
Posted by: hail2oldku

Re: Hall of Fame Inductees - 01/09/07 01:56 PM

Who comes up in three years?
Posted by: rockchalk2305

Re: Hall of Fame Inductees - 01/09/07 03:02 PM

Solid class. Still wish Don Mattingly would get in.
Posted by: elan71

Re: Hall of Fame Inductees - 01/09/07 03:05 PM

I think he will but it will take some time.
Posted by: Hawk1990

Re: Hall of Fame Inductees - 01/09/07 03:08 PM

Gossage failing to get in is ridiculous, and Dave Concepcion getting one more vote than Alan Trammell is just more evidence of the collective incompetence of the BBWAA.

And since I'm a Jim Rice fan, seeing his percentage drop pretty much wrecked my day.
Posted by: jayhwk01

Re: Hall of Fame Inductees - 01/10/07 10:08 AM

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Gossage failing to get in is ridiculous, and Dave Concepcion getting one more vote than Alan Trammell is just more evidence of the collective incompetence of the BBWAA.

And since I'm a Jim Rice fan, seeing his percentage drop pretty much wrecked my day.




Jime Rice should be in for sure and for certain in my opinion. Alan Trammell also should be in. Now, lets talk about Charlie Hustle......Make St. Bart Giamatti roll over in his grave in put Pete in!
Posted by: tubby

Re: Hall of Fame Inductees - 01/10/07 10:09 AM

i am a huge fan of the way Pete played baseball and what he did on the field, but the guy compromised the integrity of the game, was caught, lied, and has never been truly apologetic for it. The gimmicks of signing the baseballs with the betting theme...that guy is a disgusting slimeball and doesn't belong anywhere near the Hall.
Posted by: jayhwk01

Re: Hall of Fame Inductees - 01/10/07 10:14 AM

Really, you mean like nice fellas like Ruth, Cobb, who did everything under the sun up to and including killing another human being?
Posted by: tubby

Re: Hall of Fame Inductees - 01/10/07 10:18 AM

i know, i know....there are guys as shady as Pete in the Hall, but to be honest....they either weren't caught or they were at least contrite when they were.
Posted by: kuking123

Re: Hall of Fame Inductees - 01/10/07 10:45 AM

I have told this story before but it is worth repeating. I was sitting near the on deck circle at Wrigley (first base side) and Gwynn was watching the game intently. My friend and I kept saying congrats Tony and good luck on your 3,000th. He would not turn around if his life depended on it. He was so focused on watching the pitcher. Now before you say of course he wouldn't turn around, I can tell you of at least 20 different players who have responded to both my compliments and taunts during games. Gwynn is what is good about baseball. A guy who busted his ass and respected the game.
Posted by: elan71

Re: Hall of Fame Inductees - 01/10/07 10:50 AM

I'm a big fan of tony gwynn and i am glad that he is in the hall
Posted by: kuking123

Re: Hall of Fame Inductees - 01/10/07 10:52 AM

Gwynn is one of those guys it is hard to dislike. Even when he would beat the Flubbies.
Posted by: jayhwk01

Re: Hall of Fame Inductees - 01/10/07 11:53 AM

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i know, i know....there are guys as shady as Pete in the Hall, but to be honest....they either weren't caught or they were at least contrite when they were.




Ty Cobb contrite? Are you serious....have you ever read his book or read anything about him? He was about the least contrite SOB on the planet and I don't think Ruth had many regrets either. Fact of the matter is those guys played in an era where writers looked the other way and that kind of behavior was ignored. Outside of Shoeless Joe, which don't even get me started on that one, Pete is one of the most glaring ommissions to the Hall.
Posted by: tubby

Re: Hall of Fame Inductees - 01/10/07 11:58 AM

kind of like how Barry will be a first vote HOFer, but McGwire gets crucified by the media and voters. I have to be honest, I don't know much about Cobb or Ruth as I wasn't alive back then. With Rose, however, I have grown up watching him lie, lie, and lie....then fake remorse....then go ahead and mock his own transgressions all in an attempt to undermine the seriousness of what he did. he compromised the integrity of baseball. other guys may have done it, but Rose was caught and he is nothing but a smug, self-promoting SOB. I LOVE what he did on the field, and yes i agree....it is a glaring omission from the hall. I mean sh*t, the freaking hit king isn't enshrined? But i hope he never makes it, anything he did to compromise baseball far overshadows what he did as a player. his only hope is that like Nixon or James Brown, upon his death people forgive what a sorry bastard he was.
Posted by: jayhawk154

Re: Hall of Fame Inductees - 01/10/07 12:19 PM

Having had the opportunity to meet both Ripken Jr. and Gwynn, I can tell you that they are both class acts and this, based on that alone, makes them great votes in my mind.

Their amazing accomplishments are just icing on the cake.

Anyone have any Ripken Jr. or Gwynn memories or stories to pass along? I'd love to see this thread get back on track...
Posted by: jayhwk01

Re: Hall of Fame Inductees - 01/10/07 12:21 PM

Fair enough on not knowing about Cobb or Ruth's era. You should read Cobb's book which is first and formost a good read if you love baseball and very interesting. He was a class a jerk no two ways about it! Not sure I agree with you on Barry. Actually I hope you are wrong becasuse I can't stand him but that is rather hypocritical on my part and I willingly acknowledge that.
Posted by: tubby

Re: Hall of Fame Inductees - 01/10/07 12:23 PM

yeah i have a ripken story.

so his final road trip to kansas city. the series is chock-full of fans, only so they can say they saw Cal play. i went as well to one of the games. this guy plays in like 99% of his career games, i go to a game his last stop in KC, and he takes the night off! hahahah the whole place is chanting Cal! Cal! Cal! starting in like the 7th inning and then on. but he wasn't even in the stadium, at least he wasn't in the dugout the whole game. oh well!


always have loved that urban legend about him, his wife & costner, and the "electrical failure".
Posted by: Ike

Re: Hall of Fame Inductees - 01/10/07 12:55 PM

How many HOF have came from KANSAS?
Posted by: Morgansraider

Re: Hall of Fame Inductees - 01/10/07 01:33 PM

I was about to tell the story about Costner, you kinda beat me to it.
Posted by: Hawk1990

Re: Hall of Fame Inductees - 01/10/07 01:41 PM

There have been 200 native born Kansans play major league baseball. Two are in the Hall of Fame, Walter Johnson and Joe Tinker. No HOF managers are from Kansas.
Posted by: tubby

Re: Hall of Fame Inductees - 01/10/07 01:43 PM

steve jeltz forever!
kevin hooper had a few ABs for the Tigers 2 seasons ago.
Posted by: jayhwk01

Re: Hall of Fame Inductees - 01/10/07 01:52 PM

154,

Yeah we kind of hijacked the thread with the whole Pete in the hall thing. Anyway, here is my Cal Jr. story. I was at the game in KC when he broke the world record for consecutive games played. Some player from Japan had previously held the record. Anyway, the Royals handed out small commeratative posters of the event to the first 20,000 or something like that. Of course, in the 7th when the record became official the crowd went nuts and Cal in his usual style took it all with grace. After the game he hung around for I don't know how long signing as many of those posters as he could for adults as well as kids. Long after the grounds crew was gone Cal is still out there signing away. I always heard about him doing this for people but seeing it in person makes you realize the time committment and generosity of one guy.
Posted by: tubby

Re: Hall of Fame Inductees - 01/10/07 01:53 PM

billy ripken was awesome. still have his "F**k face" baseball card!
Posted by: jayhawk154

Re: Hall of Fame Inductees - 01/10/07 01:56 PM

Thanks, '01.

I had the immense pleasure of having dinner with the Ripkens when I was a senior in highschool. It was amazing to watch them sign autographs throughout the evening - Cal Sr., Cal Jr. and Billy. They never batted an eyebrow or looked even remotely annoyed.
Posted by: Morgansraider

Re: Hall of Fame Inductees - 01/10/07 01:56 PM

How much is that worth.....fyi for others, Bill Ripken once had a bball card photo taken with "fk face" clearly visible on the bat handle.