(FROM 2010) Gordon questionable for Opening Day

Posted by: JFish26

(FROM 2010) Gordon questionable for Opening Day - 03/07/10 01:50 PM

Damn.

http://www.kansascity.com/2010/03/07/1795188/royals-gordon-out-3-4-weeks-because.html

As one of the few remaining believers, this sucks.
Posted by: supermario15

Re: Gordon questionable for Opening Day - 03/07/10 03:38 PM

hate to say this but AG is starting to inch near the label of bust
Posted by: JFish26

Re: Gordon questionable for Opening Day - 03/07/10 04:21 PM

He's been a whole lot better than most think. I think he can still be a very good player.
Posted by: jammahawk

Re: Gordon questionable for Opening Day - 03/07/10 04:32 PM

I'm a Alex Gordon supporter, but availability is wearing on my patience.
I agree that Gordon when healthy has been better than most give him credit for.
Posted by: jayhwk01

Re: Gordon questionable for Opening Day - 03/07/10 04:46 PM

Sigh. Being a Royals fan reminds me of what it must be like to be a KSU fan.

I am not even disappointed or surprised at this point. In fact I kind of expect things like this.
Posted by: Merg311

Re: Gordon questionable for Opening Day - 03/07/10 08:36 PM

As another Royals fan, here are my thoughts...

Had Alex Gordon been drafted by any other team, he would be an All-Star, would never have had injury problems, and we would all be saying...damn, the Royals should have drafted him.

Seriously, I've questioned some GM decisions when warranted, but it seems no matter what they do, or who they draft, that blue Royals script on the front of the jersey ensures that individual will SUCK.

Sigh...can't wait for opening day, I guess.
Posted by: jammahawk

Re: Gordon questionable for Opening Day - 03/07/10 09:25 PM

I would suggest Alex not slide head first , especially without glove in hand.
Posted by: jayhwk01

Re: Gordon questionable for Opening Day - 03/08/10 12:03 PM

If Dayton has any skills at all I would suggest we trade Alex while there is any value left. Unfortunately we seem to be stuck with both of them.
Posted by: JFish26

Re: Gordon questionable for Opening Day - 03/08/10 12:06 PM

Why trade him now when his value is in the gutter?
Posted by: jaynovahawk07

Re: Gordon questionable for Opening Day - 03/08/10 12:06 PM

This isn't good news for the Royals.
Posted by: jayhwk01

Re: Gordon questionable for Opening Day - 03/08/10 12:13 PM

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Why trade him now when his value is in the gutter?




I should have clarified. Remember I was in favor of trading him at the beginning of last year and got shouted down.

That said after her rehabs....again....and if he show ANY signs of life I say send the Alex Gordon experiment down the road. Yeah he probably becomes the player we all thought he would be somewhere else but you know a change of scenery might be the only way that happens. If you can get something for him then send him. As I said earlier tho' this would be assuming Dayton could somehow pull a trade of Alex off without coming out the complete loser. His track record indicates that is not likely so Alex likely stays and collects his injury checks for another season. Bottom line is at some point it is time to cut ties and move on for better or worse.
Posted by: jammahawk

Re: Gordon questionable for Opening Day - 03/08/10 12:49 PM

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If Dayton has any skills at all I would suggest we trade Alex while there is any value left. Unfortunately we seem to be stuck with both of them.




It would make no sense to trade him now. Trade value is very low now, Alex may not even miss opening day, it would be better to let him play and hope his value goes up.
If he plays well enough and his trade value goes up, it would probably be better to keep him anyway, he plays a position that the Royals need someone who can perform. If Gordon can perform, I'd just assume the Royals keep him.
Posted by: jammahawk

Re: Gordon questionable for Opening Day - 03/08/10 12:53 PM

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Why trade him now when his value is in the gutter?




I should have clarified. Remember I was in favor of trading him at the beginning of last year and got shouted down.

That said after her rehabs....again....and if he show ANY signs of life I say send the Alex Gordon experiment down the road. Yeah he probably becomes the player we all thought he would be somewhere else but you know a change of scenery might be the only way that happens. If you can get something for him then send him. As I said earlier tho' this would be assuming Dayton could somehow pull a trade of Alex off without coming out the complete loser. His track record indicates that is not likely so Alex likely stays and collects his injury checks for another season. Bottom line is at some point it is time to cut ties and move on for better or worse.




Not trying to come off sounding like a smart a$$, but if you know about his track record with injuries, don't you think other GM's would be cautious of it as well, and not offer much in return.
The Royals don't need another AAAA player in return.
Posted by: JFish26

Re: Gordon questionable for Opening Day - 03/08/10 12:55 PM

Jamma's right. Gordon's upside is still very well worth keeping him around. You can bet that any number of teams would LOVE to toss the Royals a throwaway piece for AG. I can think of one, in particular, whose soon-to-be-former home is outside my window.
Posted by: jayhwk01

Re: Gordon questionable for Opening Day - 03/08/10 01:53 PM

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Why trade him now when his value is in the gutter?




I should have clarified. Remember I was in favor of trading him at the beginning of last year and got shouted down.

That said after her rehabs....again....and if he show ANY signs of life I say send the Alex Gordon experiment down the road. Yeah he probably becomes the player we all thought he would be somewhere else but you know a change of scenery might be the only way that happens. If you can get something for him then send him. As I said earlier tho' this would be assuming Dayton could somehow pull a trade of Alex off without coming out the complete loser. His track record indicates that is not likely so Alex likely stays and collects his injury checks for another season. Bottom line is at some point it is time to cut ties and move on for better or worse.




Not trying to come off sounding like a smart a$$, but if you know about his track record with injuries, don't you think other GM's would be cautious of it as well, and not offer much in return.
The Royals don't need another AAAA player in return.





I think it makes little difference at this point. I really hope I am wrong but AG looks like a bona fide bust. I don't want to trade him right now. I want to trade him if he shows any signs of life at all. I just don't see him being much at this point which is where you, fish, and I disagree. You see a larger upside so the risk of keeping him is worth it to you. What I really wanted was to trade him before the beginning of last year but that is kind of like the downtown stadium at this point.....spilled milk.
Posted by: ku_painter

Re: Gordon questionable for Opening Day - 03/08/10 07:36 PM

I think my initiation lies with the circumstances around the injury.
Its Spring Training and I don't understand sliding in head first ? (because of the risk of injury)

Secondly, and thsi is all rumorville, but it was thrown around that he was sliding head first because his hip was/is still sore.

Anyhoo, I agree with those who say we need to keep him for now
Posted by: jamboslice

Re: Gordon questionable for Opening Day - 03/09/10 12:55 PM

It would be really telling if his hip is still sore. AROD had the same thing last year and came back just fine (although we don't know how much roids he needed to do that) to finish off the season. If AG is still suffering from this injury, he might just be too injury prone to ever expect much out of.
Posted by: NotAPuke

Re: Gordon questionable for Opening Day - 03/09/10 01:17 PM

No offense, but they traded the wrong guy to the White Sox. All runners had been instructed to slide feet first. AG reminds me of Texas basketball...all potential, no results.
Posted by: JFish26

Re: Gordon questionable for Opening Day - 03/09/10 01:26 PM

No, they traded the right guy. Teahen's not worth his paycheck at this point. And Gordon was much better than you think in '07 and '08.
Posted by: NotAPuke

Re: Gordon questionable for Opening Day - 03/09/10 04:58 PM

Gordon is not that good in the infield, and his hitting has been spotty. He was great in college, but even the lowly Royals aren't college.
Posted by: JFish26

Re: Gordon questionable for Opening Day - 03/09/10 05:12 PM

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Gordon is not that good in the infield, and his hitting has been spotty. He was great in college, but even the lowly Royals aren't college.




WAR = Wins Above Replacement.



Gordon wasn't great, but he wasn't too shabby either.
Posted by: jammahawk

Re: Gordon questionable for Opening Day - 03/09/10 05:54 PM

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No offense, but they traded the wrong guy to the White Sox. All runners had been instructed to slide feet first. AG reminds me of Texas basketball...all potential, no results.




I will defend AG and the Royals for drafting him when they did, but him reminds me so much of the 13-14 year old kids I coached. All they were interested in was blowing bubbles while fielding ground balls, making sure their pant legs covered the heal of their cleets, and going for style points like sliding head first when it isn't necesary on the field.
I'm hoping AG isn't as uncoachable as these kids were, his realized potential is needed on this team.
Posted by: jnewell

Re: Gordon questionable for Opening Day - 11/02/11 10:43 PM

Bumpity bump bump.

Notice JFish's posts. Great call.