Dedric Lawson next Big 12 POY

Posted by: Maximus

Dedric Lawson next Big 12 POY - 05/23/18 02:54 PM

Bill Self on KU


Around 16min to 25 min mark in the podcast.

Posted by: Maximus

Re: Derrick Lawson next Big 12 POY - 05/30/18 03:27 PM

2018 Starting Lineup

C Udoka Azubuike
PF Silvio De Sousa
SF Dedric Lawson
SG K.J. Lawson
PG Charlie Moore

Bench

Quentin Grimes
Marcus Garrett
Lagerald Vick
Sam Cunliffe
Mitch Lightfoot
Devon Dotson
David McCormack
Ochai Agbaji

Garrett and Vick will be interesting next year. Garrett will transfer and Vick will be a 6th man, a graduate transfer, and it possible start at shooting guard, but his lack of "effort" on defense was a Self concern and his shooting ability as a shooting guard could be questioned.


Posted by: Maximus

Re: Derrick Lawson next Big 12 POY - 05/30/18 03:32 PM

Posted by: Maximus

Re: Derrick Lawson next Big 12 POY - 05/30/18 03:41 PM

Cedric is #1 and KJ is #13 and changed his number to #2.

Anfernee Hardway is at the game for a reason.

Posted by: Maximus

Re: Derrick Lawson next Big 12 POY - 05/30/18 04:01 PM

Playing time for Sam Cunliff will be in high competition with other KU players. Sam is talented and if he doesn't start, which he has ability to do so, KU should be a top 5 press on ranked team with some thinking able to win a national title.

Posted by: AlOerter

Re: Derrick Lawson next Big 12 POY - 05/30/18 06:25 PM

To me Agbaji is kinda the unknown factor. Could be ready to contribute right away or may be a project. I felt Cunliffe was in coach's dog house for some reason last year but is definitely talented enough to play.
Posted by: 58hawk

Re: Derrick Lawson next Big 12 POY - 05/30/18 09:50 PM

Originally Posted By: Maximus
2018 Starting Lineup

C Udoka Azubuike
PF Silvio De Sousa
SF Dedric Lawson
SG K.J. Lawson
PG Charlie Moore

Bench

Quentin Grimes
Marcus Garrett
Lagerald Vick
Sam Cunliffe
Mitch Lightfoot
Devon Dotson
David McCormack
Ochai Agbaji

Garrett and Vick will be interesting next year. Garrett will transfer and Vick will be a 6th man, a graduate transfer, and it possible start at shooting guard, but his lack of "effort" on defense was a Self concern and his shooting ability as a shooting guard could be questioned.


I guess I missed it about Vick not hiring an agent?
Posted by: Maximus

Re: Derrick Lawson next Big 12 POY - 05/30/18 10:29 PM

Vick make a mistake hiring an agent? Both Lawson brother better?

Europe or D league bound possible.
Posted by: Maximus

Re: Derrick Lawson next Big 12 POY - 06/04/18 08:21 AM

Lightfoot a SF not a C

It's hard eating so much to gain muscle.

Self has a problem with too many 3's and 2's. Someone will transfer, Sherron Collins talent will be on the bench, and a once projected 2nd round draft pick, according to NBA Draft, might not start, and could be the 6th man off the bench, like Steve Woodberry.

Jen Selter

Posted by: Maximus

Re: Derrick Lawson next Big 12 POY - 06/06/18 07:34 AM

http://m.kusports.com/news/2018/jun/05/running-ku-forward-dedric-lawson-shows-wide-range-/

Sam Cunliffe looks like an potential NBA guard to me.
Posted by: Maximus

Re: Derrick Lawson next Big 12 POY - 06/06/18 07:46 AM

David McCormack is huge. David, #33, is a future lottery pick who will get better battling Silvio De Souza and Dok.

Posted by: Maximus

Re: Derrick Lawson next Big 12 POY - 06/30/18 03:31 PM

Matt Tait
@mctait
After digesting/discussing Vick’s return to #KUbball I think I’ll stick w/ the same starting 5 prediction. Could change. Not by any means a given that he’ll start.

PG - Dotson (Moore)
SG - Grimes (Vick)
3G - Garrett (K.J. Lawson)
PF - D. Lawson (Silvio)
C - Udoka (McCormack)


Autumn Cleveland
Posted by: 58hawk

Re: Derrick Lawson next Big 12 POY - 07/04/18 04:44 PM

Vick will start. Self likes Seniors.
Posted by: The_Know

Re: Derrick Lawson next Big 12 POY - 07/04/18 06:39 PM

D Lawson will be the POY for sure. His brother is the wildcard. He won the Freshman of the year from the conference they came from.
Posted by: tmcats

Re: Derrick Lawson next Big 12 POY - 07/05/18 03:47 PM

for sure?
Posted by: 58hawk

Re: Derrick Lawson next Big 12 POY - 07/06/18 08:05 PM

Originally Posted By: tmcats
for sure?
Are you insinuating that is should be Wade?
Posted by: tmcats

Re: Derrick Lawson next Big 12 POY - 07/07/18 09:23 AM

Originally Posted By: 58hawk
Originally Posted By: tmcats
for sure?
Are you insinuating that is should be Wade?


dean wade will undoubtedly be preseason poy, probably unanimous. if he stays healthy, he won't be losing that distinction to a transfer/underclassman. my expectation is that this will be a great race for the conference championship - the way it used to be before lon kruger left for florida - if dean stays on the floor. if not, ku will win it by 4-5 games again and someone else will be named player of the year, maybe from ISU or WVU.
Posted by: Maximus

Re: Derrick Lawson next Big 12 POY - 07/07/18 03:40 PM

Dedric, a 6-foot-9, 240-pound sophomore forward, averaged 19.2 points and 9.9 rebounds and blocked 68 shots while playing 34.5 minutes a game last season for the Memphis.

Dean Wade averaged 16.2 points on 55 percent shooting (198-of-360), including 44 percent (40-of-91) from 3-point range, with 6.2 rebounds, 2.7 assists, 1.5 steals and 0.8 blocks in 32.8 minutes per game… Connected on 75.2 percent (97-of-129) from the free throw line.


Lawson will play against Wade and outperform him.


Samantha Hoopes
Posted by: Maximus

Re: Derrick Lawson next Big 12 POY - 07/07/18 03:47 PM

Originally Posted By: tmcats

dean wade will undoubtedly be preseason poy, probably unanimous. if he stays healthy, he won't be losing that distinction to a transfer/underclassman.


Posted by: tmcats

Re: Derrick Lawson next Big 12 POY - 07/07/18 04:45 PM

lol. i'm not wrong on wade being preseason poy. i may be wrong on the conference race.

your guy's numbers in the aac are not equatable to B12 play where dean averaged 19 and 6.
Posted by: parkhawk3319

Re: Derrick Lawson next Big 12 POY - 07/10/18 02:40 PM

The poor sap's Larry Bird is a less athletic version of Mitch Lightfoot with a better jump shot. He would be about the 5th man in the KU big man rotation next year behind De Sousa and McCormack....POY, ah ha ha ha ha! good one dimmy!
Posted by: MICHHAWK

Re: Derrick Lawson next Big 12 POY - 07/10/18 03:08 PM

I don't know who all is returning for what school next season. d. wade is first team pre season for sure. Will he be pre season poy? Maybe. Could be.
Posted by: Maximus

Re: Derrick Lawson next Big 12 POY - 07/10/18 10:46 PM

K-State fans with team player bias making their quick thought debated with Big 12 fans. Self will probably vote for Wiggington and not Wade.

Liddell Wiggington - Iowa State

Nation wide opinion has Wiggington ranked and Wade not by Andy Katz.

https://www.ncaa.com/news/basketball-men...sketball-season


Ariel Meredith
Posted by: parkhawk3319

Re: Derrick Lawson next Big 12 POY - 07/11/18 07:47 PM

Too bad the list wasn't longer, Wade is probably #21.

First round draft pick definitely; lottery pick maybe by end of season. When we see who declares for the draft at the end of the season he might move up to first big off the bench for us.
Posted by: Maximus

Re: Derrick Lawson next Big 12 POY - 07/12/18 09:58 AM

Originally Posted By: parkhawk3319
Too bad the list wasn't longer, Wade is probably #21.

First round draft pick definitely; lottery pick maybe by end of season. When we see who declares for the draft at the end of the season he might move up to first big off the bench for us.


A Kansas State basketball joke.

Parkhawk, be nice to Tomcat. K-State's football program is headed on the decline.
Posted by: Maximus

Re: Derrick Lawson next Big 12 POY - 07/12/18 10:03 AM

Originally Posted By: tmcats
lol. i'm not wrong on wade being preseason poy. i may be wrong on the conference race.

your guy's numbers in the aac are not equatable to B12 play where dean averaged 19 and 6.


Posted by: PHOGUSHER

Re: Derrick Lawson next Big 12 POY - 07/12/18 07:50 PM

Wyd is that purp idiot rambling about.
Posted by: parkhawk3319

Re: Derrick Lawson next Big 12 POY - 07/12/18 09:56 PM

dimmy has a point Lawson had trouble keeping numbers up against Big 12 athletes
Posted by: parkhawk3319

Re: Derrick Lawson next Big 12 POY - 07/12/18 10:06 PM

But he was just a freshmen so you have to cut him some slack on this one.
Posted by: Maximus

Re: Derrick Lawson next Big 12 POY - 07/13/18 07:36 AM



Look like a great game to watch. KJ Lawson stats is nice to read. Likely to do the same at KU.

Bianca Kmiec
Posted by: Maximus

Re: Derrick Lawson next Big 12 POY - 07/13/18 07:40 AM



Future NBA Lottery pick? More than likely.

Posted by: parkhawk3319

Re: Derrick Lawson next Big 12 POY - 07/13/18 08:49 AM

Perry Ellis, a SR put up 10 pts and 7 rebs against Spangler and Lattin that year. A freshman putting up 22 pts and 15 rebs are pretty decent numbers for just an AAC player. But we will see how he does when he goes up against the legend and possible National POY Dean Wade. I am sure watching from the bench last year Lawson just an AAC player got a feel for how intimidating the Octagon of Gloom is and how dominating Wade can be when being guarded most of the game by a player half just an AAC players size. Just an AAC player can't be relishing the thought of having to prove himself against Big 12 caliber athletes. I hope just an AAC player doesn't piss himself on the court during the game, that would be humiliating.
Posted by: appyhawk

Re: Derrick Lawson next Big 12 POY - 07/16/18 12:40 PM

Situational variation between players may be the overriding factor that ultimately determines POY.
Wade will undoubtedly get more gametime opportunities due to the fact that, if healthy, he will be the Cat's goto guy.
Lawson is in a position of being part of an extremely well stacked roster of talent that includes his position.He'll have to share the ball more and will less often be targeted per possession.'As far as talent and future potential are concerned I don't feel we have a contest to discuss. If Lawson shines in practice the way Self says he does, I'll go with that.
Posted by: parkhawk3319

just an AAC player - 07/16/18 03:09 PM

I think we have to go with the facts and history here. Dedric “just an AAC player” Lawson has no business being in the conversation with a kid like King Dean. Wade grew up battling and proving himself on the legendary playgrounds of the mean streets of St. John’s, KS. We all know how many McDonald’s AA, D1 and NBA stars started their careers there. And now King Dean is the go-to guy for one of college basketball’s true bluebloods, KSU. King Dean and head coach The Razzle Dazzle Undertaker are returning KSU to the almost half decade of dominance they enjoyed when Lon Kruger consistently had them finishing in 3rd or 4th place in the Big 8, this is a team of destiny! In the meantime, “just an AAC player” played some ball in Memphis, known mostly for BBQ I think. And he had a couple of decent seasons on a mediocre AAC team, a conference whose best team has been UConn, seriously does anyone play basketball in Connecticut? Let’s not kid ourselves, King Dean is the real deal and “just an AAC player” can only hope to try and stay with him when they compete head to head. Hopefully “just an AAC player” can get lots of help and doesn’t get too intimidated; help defense is the only way to contain the double double monster that is King Dean. “Just an AAC player” has never seen up close the kind of athleticism he is about to encounter. Don’t be surprised if “just an AAC player” gets less than half his scoring average if King Dean decides to make a defensive statement at the expense of “just an AAC player”. This season is going to be the King Dean show.
Posted by: tmcats

Re: just an AAC player - 07/16/18 09:05 PM

your sloppy attempt at sarcasm was enlightening only for how poor the attempt. the games between these schools this coming season should be excellent, perhaps epic if state can pull it off behind a small-town kansas youngster and end the conference's embarrassing ku winning streak. wade will be preseason poy. we'll have to see if he carries it to the end.
Posted by: 58hawk

Re: just an AAC player - 07/16/18 10:00 PM

Originally Posted By: tmcats
your sloppy attempt at sarcasm was enlightening only for how poor the attempt. the games between these schools this coming season should be excellent, perhaps epic if state can pull it off behind a small-town kansas youngster and end the conference's embarrassing ku winning streak. wade will be preseason poy. we'll have to see if he carries it to the end.
What's embarrassing about a win streak? Because your team didn't do it?
Posted by: parkhawk3319

Re: just an AAC player - 07/17/18 08:19 AM

The closest conference race in a decade and a half of dominance as King Dean runs roughshod through the conference, becomes lottery pick and NBA rookie of the year. Razzle Dazzle Undertaker ends up as National COY. Or as you said, maybe the Cats just return to the mediocrity of the Lon Kruger years.

dimmy; maybe it will help your digestion if I splain that it is parody?
Posted by: tmcats

Re: just an AAC player - 07/17/18 09:43 AM

parody, who are you imitating beyond your own loose lobes? if true, the poor soul is surely incarcerated.
Posted by: PHOGUSHER

Re: just an AAC player - 07/17/18 10:47 AM

Lol...in Timmays battle of wits with park he basically is coming unarmed and should raise his white flag. But he is the idiot train that keeps trying to climb that hill.
Posted by: parkhawk3319

Re: just an AAC player - 07/17/18 10:55 AM

if true, the poor soul is surely incarcerated.

I can only imagine, but being stuck inside your skull must feel like that sometimes.
Posted by: tmcats

Re: just an AAC player - 07/17/18 11:58 AM

let me know when you accomplish something in life beyond parody.
Posted by: parkhawk3319

Re: just an AAC player - 07/17/18 01:48 PM

A couple of minutes ago. Wanted you to be the first to know, because your acceptance means a lot to me.
Posted by: Maximus

Re: Derrick Lawson next Big 12 POY - 07/19/18 02:44 PM

Posted by: TheStarhawk

Re: Derrick Lawson next Big 12 POY - 07/20/18 06:50 AM

Red- is gonna happen anyways
Orange - No way, this team isn't worthy of a bowl game they don't deserve it.
Yellow - my personal preference, no guarantee he stays for a long time, he would have to be up for it, is the kicker. For selfish reasons I pick this button.
Green- very random, is this to suggest Air Jordan is the best and richest thus signifying green? weird option.
Blue- an incredibly tempting pick. it even looks pretty lol. I don't care for Duke and their success or lack of success does not take away anything from KU and I don't root against teams to lose unless for personal reasons so no.
Purple- tempting pick, I think we might have the horses in the stable to do it without the button.
Posted by: tmcats

Re: Derrick Lawson next Big 12 POY - 07/23/18 11:55 AM

Originally Posted By: Maximus


red - no need, he gone
blue - in your dreams
yellow - most logical push
orange - texas football, sure, thus orange
purple - would not shock with dean, barry, x and all da boys
green - shuttering bill's recruiting, nah
Posted by: moose1

Re: Derrick Lawson next Big 12 POY - 07/23/18 08:40 PM

Originally Posted By: Maximus


Purple is the only choice. I would take a National Championship any day of the week and twice on Tuesday. Having Bill around for another 15 years would be great, but if he leaves KU will be fine. If there was a choice of a football National Championship I would take that over basketball right now but that would be the only thing I would want over a basketball National Championship.
Posted by: moose1

Re: Derrick Lawson next Big 12 POY - 07/23/18 08:45 PM

As for Dean Wade I am guessing he won't even be the best player for K State this next year. I think Barry Brown will end up being better than Wade.
Posted by: Maximus

Re: Derrick Lawson next Big 12 POY - 07/24/18 07:35 AM

Originally Posted By: Maximus


Garrett and Vick will be interesting next year. Garrett will transfer and Vick will be a 6th man, a graduate transfer, and it possible start at shooting guard, but his lack of "effort" on defense was a Self concern and his shooting ability as a shooting guard could be questioned.



http://m.kusports.com/news/2018/jul/23/junior-guard-sam-cunliffe-leaving-kansas/

Easy to see someone transferring.

I like Sam Cunliffe over Vick. Sam should have been the 6th man off the bench.

Maybe Sam changes his mind and stays. Sam is too talented, which KU wants him to stay.

Some say, he is doing the best for himself, playing time reason. Bill Self can help get Sam overseas and a shot at the NBA. It's Sam's life and his choice.

I won't be surprise is professional ball if still in his future.



Posted by: tmcats

Re: Derrick Lawson next Big 12 POY - 07/24/18 11:51 AM

Originally Posted By: moose1
As for Dean Wade I am guessing he won't even be the best player for K State this next year. I think Barry Brown will end up being better than Wade.


6'3" shooting guards like barry are not all that unique. but a 6'10" youngster who can dominate all phases of the game, now that's something special. dean, if his foot remains healthy, will be both preseason and regular season B12 poy. whether k-state dethrones self's semi-pro outfit is another question. i, frankly, doubt it. but it will be fun to watch unfold. we have a football run to watch first.
Posted by: moose1

Re: Derrick Lawson next Big 12 POY - 07/24/18 02:46 PM

Originally Posted By: tmcats
Originally Posted By: moose1
As for Dean Wade I am guessing he won't even be the best player for K State this next year. I think Barry Brown will end up being better than Wade.


6'3" shooting guards like barry are not all that unique. but a 6'10" youngster who can dominate all phases of the game, now that's something special. dean, if his foot remains healthy, will be both preseason and regular season B12 poy. whether k-state dethrones self's semi-pro outfit is another question. i, frankly, doubt it. but it will be fun to watch unfold. we have a football run to watch first.


Dominate? Wade is a nice player. There has been NOTHING that shows he is dominating. To me that would say he was an unstoppable force. There are not too many players I would consider dominating. Even conference players of the year. Heck even national players of the year. I do not consider most of them dominating. The last player I can think of that would fit that bill would be Anthony Davis. Look he will get some consideration, but I just don't see him as Big XII POY. That said this would be the year for him. I don't see a lot of great players ready to step up and take that mantle.
Posted by: tmcats

Re: Derrick Lawson next Big 12 POY - 07/24/18 03:43 PM

20 and 10 would be dominating, no? wade's numbers are better than perry's to this point in time.
Posted by: parkhawk3319

how can just an AAC player compete - 07/24/18 05:44 PM

You have to understand that "dominating" in KSU terms is a relative thing. This is from the same school that put out a video about their football "Decade of Dominance", a period which included winning the conference but once and never winning a national title.....but they were at long last competitive. When you have decades of being 8th fiddle, rising to a consistent 3rd and 2nd fiddle is pretty heady stuff. They can be excused for confusing being "competitive" with being "dominant".

When you think about it that way, King Dean is a "dominating" player.

Some might say he could be the most explosive athlete in the Big 12. He could be a lottery pick in next year's NBA draft. dimmy is putting money on it. He is almost as excited about King Dean as he was about Marcus Foster.
Posted by: tmcats

Re: how can just an AAC player compete - 07/25/18 11:50 AM

no, dean is much better than marcus. foster had a splendid freshman year and then went craps and off to creighton. dean, on the other hand, has grown from year to year and his numbers are better than ku legend perry ellis at the same point in time. i'm saying wade is B12 preseason poy. i'm also saying that k-state will again challenge ku for the conference title. they're potentially that good. but it will take more than dean to take down ku. i get that.
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: how can just an AAC player compete - 07/25/18 12:35 PM

Originally Posted By: tmcats
no, dean is much better than marcus. foster had a splendid freshman year and then went craps and off to creighton. dean, on the other hand, has grown from year to year and his numbers are better than ku legend perry ellis at the same point in time. i'm saying wade is B12 preseason poy. i'm also saying that k-state will again challenge ku for the conference title. they're potentially that good. but it will take more than dean to take down ku. i get that.
Semi-pro alleges that Self is paying for something here. Proof? Thought so...
Posted by: parkhawk3319

diminating the Big 12 - 07/25/18 02:37 PM

"splendid"....is that lesser or greater than "dominating"?

And since you brought up the notion of more than King Dean, where did you get the 20-10 stats? That seems like more than a small jump from 16.7 and 6.4. As an engineer I can appreciate the concept of rounding off to whole numbers, but rounding off 6.4 would typically be a 6. Which is more than a 50% increase to get to 10 if you are a numbers person (16% increase in scoring isn't a minor number either). Now say King Dean put up numbers like 19.2 and 9.9, those numbers could almost be rounded up to 20 -10. But those numbers were put up by "just an AAC player", not a world class athlete of the caliber of King Dean.

Tell you what dimcat, maybe we can say King Dean is going to be "diminating" in the Big 12 this year. That has an impressive ring to it.
Posted by: tmcats

Re: diminating the Big 12 - 07/25/18 02:40 PM

so now your argument against dean wade being named preseason poy has evolved into the nuances of mathematical rounding? does that mean you yield, like in offering touche'?
Posted by: parkhawk3319

Re: diminating the Big 12 - 07/25/18 02:42 PM

dim, like 20 watts or maybe less
Posted by: tmcats

Re: diminating the Big 12 - 07/25/18 02:44 PM

you failed to answer my question.
Posted by: oldalum

Re: diminating the Big 12 - 07/25/18 05:43 PM

It's appropriate that you are so supportive of one of your players. It just isn't appropriate to continually support him on the KU message board. Don't you ever post on the K-State board?
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: diminating the Big 12 - 07/25/18 09:26 PM

Originally Posted By: tmcats
you failed to answer my question.
More like a night light of 8 watts, dimcats
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: diminating the Big 12 - 07/25/18 09:29 PM

Originally Posted By: oldalum
It's appropriate that you are so supportive of one of your players. It just isn't appropriate to continually support him on the KU message board. Don't you ever post on the K-State board?
The fanbase doesn't support Liberace, so the answer is no.

Dean will have to go a long ways to beat out the Beezlee in the NBA.
Posted by: tmcats

Re: diminating the Big 12 - 07/26/18 10:51 AM

Originally Posted By: oldalum
It's appropriate that you are so supportive of one of your players. It just isn't appropriate to continually support him on the KU message board. Don't you ever post on the K-State board?


yes, but it's been dead here. and when football comes to play, i leave for the season.

j'hawks will all love wade when he leaves though. they'll be all sorts of, mostly, backhanded compliments thrown his way. like, 'you have to hand it to a kid who won player of the year with bruce as his coach - that's a lot to overcome.' or, 'it's always good to see a kid from kansas experience some modest level of success even at statie - think what he'd have accomplished with bill as his coach.' 'nice little run but ku didn't recruit him for a reason - he'd have rode the bench here.' i can hardly wait to read them.
Posted by: moose1

Re: diminating the Big 12 - 07/26/18 01:47 PM

Originally Posted By: tmcats
Originally Posted By: oldalum
It's appropriate that you are so supportive of one of your players. It just isn't appropriate to continually support him on the KU message board. Don't you ever post on the K-State board?


yes, but it's been dead here. and when football comes to play, i leave for the season.

j'hawks will all love wade when he leaves though. they'll be all sorts of, mostly, backhanded compliments thrown his way. like, 'you have to hand it to a kid who won player of the year with bruce as his coach - that's a lot to overcome.' or, 'it's always good to see a kid from kansas experience some modest level of success even at statie - think what he'd have accomplished with bill as his coach.' 'nice little run but ku didn't recruit him for a reason - he'd have rode the bench here.' i can hardly wait to read them.


Like most things K State KU fans will probably not say a word. That is if it is not brought up by the likes of you. We just DON'T CARE what happens in Manhattan.

BTW I don't see Wade getting 20 and 10 this year. Going from 16 and 6 to 20 and 10 is a tremendous leap. Plus I think KSU will be better overall this year, and because of that will lead to less touches by Wade.
Posted by: parkhawk3319

Re: diminating the Big 12 - 07/26/18 02:17 PM

Math; some get it, some diminate.
Posted by: parkhawk3319

Re: diminating the Big 12 - 08/06/18 09:10 PM

hmmmm.....something's missing
Posted by: KYBLUEBLOOD

Re: diminating the Big 12 - 08/06/18 11:05 PM

Originally Posted By: moose1
Originally Posted By: tmcats
Originally Posted By: oldalum
It's appropriate that you are so supportive of one of your players. It just isn't appropriate to continually support him on the KU message board. Don't you ever post on the K-State board?


yes, but it's been dead here. and when football comes to play, i leave for the season.

j'hawks will all love wade when he leaves though. they'll be all sorts of, mostly, backhanded compliments thrown his way. like, 'you have to hand it to a kid who won player of the year with bruce as his coach - that's a lot to overcome.' or, 'it's always good to see a kid from kansas experience some modest level of success even at statie - think what he'd have



accomplished with bill as his coach.' 'nice little run but ku didn't recruit him for a reason - he'd have rode the bench here.' i can hardly wait to read them.


Like most things K State KU fans will probably not say a word. That is if it is not brought up by the likes of you. We just DON'T CARE what happens in Manhattan.

BTW I don't see Wade getting 20 and 10 this year. Going from 16 and 6 to 20 and 10 is a tremendous leap. Plus I think KSU will be better overall this year, and because of that will lead to less touches by Wade.


Kansas is going to have way too much firepower to overcome. Might get that 40-0. It’s awfully hard. 38-0 and we lost and Wichita was like 35-0 and we beat them.
KSU will be very good too. Wade doesn’t really have to do it all. Anthony Davis averaged 14/11/5 and won NPOY and swept all the awards.
The Big 12 belongs to Kansas until someone can prove otherwise. Better chance of an NCAA violation ending the streak than on the court. 😂
Posted by: parkhawk3319

Re: diminating the Big 12 - 08/07/18 12:29 PM

Great point, Anthony Davis and King Dean are similar players; freak of nature athletes, when they are in the game their mere presence changes everything about the game at both ends of the floor. But King Dean's lack of a unibrow could hurt his chances for NPOY. Maybe King Dean could grow a neck beard to pick up the slack.
Posted by: tmcats

Re: diminating the Big 12 - 08/07/18 01:38 PM

Originally Posted By: parkhawk3319
Great point, Anthony Davis and King Dean are similar players; freak of nature athletes, when they are in the game their mere presence changes everything about the game at both ends of the floor. But King Dean's lack of a unibrow could hurt his chances for NPOY. Maybe King Dean could grow a neck beard to pick up the slack.


i'm not sure if this is a reflection of your bitterness or pettiness?
Posted by: parkhawk3319

Re: diminating the Big 12 - 08/07/18 05:26 PM

When you are gone dimmy I am sad, I am happy now.
Posted by: KYBLUEBLOOD

Re: diminating the Big 12 - 08/07/18 07:03 PM

Originally Posted By: parkhawk3319
Great point, Anthony Davis and King Dean are similar players; freak of nature athletes, when they are in the game their mere presence changes everything about the game at both ends of the floor. But King Dean's lack of a unibrow could hurt his chances for NPOY. Maybe King Dean could grow a neck beard to pick up the slack.


Cal was pretty smart in advising AD to trademark that fur above his eyes. AD has made some serious cash merchandising on it. I sure hope he has a healthy year. It’s a win-win for him if he does Either a 5 year 230 million Super Max contract or a 4 year super max and a trade out of NOLA, hopefully to a big market team.
Posted by: PHOGUSHER

Re: diminating the Big 12 - 08/07/18 07:21 PM

Oh no Timmay and KY...almost as bad as the dot net these days...
Posted by: KYBLUEBLOOD

Re: diminating the Big 12 - 08/07/18 09:48 PM

College basketball the next few days on the SEC Network, 6 pm Your time Kentucky plays in the Bahamas. Probably lose a few of the 4 games they have scheduled. Paid for harder competition than the Islanders and a few fruit stand workers UNC is known to schedule. That is why our trips generally cost so much more.

Better than spring football practice. 😆
Posted by: parkhawk3319

Re: diminating the Big 12 - 08/08/18 07:49 AM

And the unibrow is only an asset because AD is a great basketball player. Otherwise he would just be Jacob Pullen trying to sell "Fear the Beard" retro t-shirts on eBay.
Posted by: jhawks99

Re: diminating the Big 12 - 08/08/18 01:06 PM

Originally Posted By: KYBLUEBLOOD
College basketball the next few days on the SEC Network, 6 pm Your time Kentucky plays in the Bahamas. Probably lose a few of the 4 games they have scheduled. Paid for harder competition than the Islanders and a few fruit stand workers UNC is known to schedule. That is why our trips generally cost so much more.

Better than spring football practice. 😆


I hate watching games in that arena. Looks terrible on the teevee.
Posted by: KYBLUEBLOOD

Re: diminating the Big 12 - 08/08/18 03:48 PM

Originally Posted By: jhawks99
Originally Posted By: KYBLUEBLOOD
College basketball the next few days on the SEC Network, 6 pm Your time Kentucky plays in the Bahamas. Probably lose a few of the 4 games they have scheduled. Paid for harder competition than the Islanders and a few fruit stand workers UNC is known to schedule. That is why our trips generally cost so much more.

Better than spring football practice. 😆


I hate watching games in that arena. Looks terrible on the teevee.


I heard that. Ceilings look like they are just above your head by 10 feet and lighting that makes you wonder if you’ve had a mini stroke.
Posted by: DCHawk1

Re: diminating the Big 12 - 08/08/18 09:54 PM

Originally Posted By: parkhawk3319
When you are gone dimmy dhimmi I am sad, I am happy now.
Posted by: PHOGUSHER

Re: diminating the Big 12 - 08/08/18 10:38 PM

All the dot net moroons dropping in...dayumm.
Posted by: 58hawk

Re: diminating the Big 12 - 08/10/18 03:11 PM

Originally Posted By: PHOGUSHER
All the dot net moroons dropping in...dayumm.
Yeah I wonder why those losers are here.
Posted by: Maximus

Re: Derrick Lawson next Big 12 POY - 08/13/18 08:58 AM

Channel Zale.



Posted by: PHOGUSHER

Re: diminating the Big 12 - 08/13/18 10:51 AM

Originally Posted By: 58hawk
Originally Posted By: PHOGUSHER
All the dot net moroons dropping in...dayumm.
Yeah I wonder why those losers are here.


Heard through the grapevine that Vega basically ran the place in the ground. Of course he created it but supposively turned it over to pwhitt. But Vega could'nt leave well enough alone. Been screwing things up. Only a few posters remain. Vega has issues..
Posted by: tmcats

Re: diminating the Big 12 - 08/13/18 11:51 AM

i can't seem to log on there. maybe banned.
Posted by: oldalum

Re: diminating the Big 12 - 08/13/18 12:48 PM

I had it bookmarked so I can still get in, but there's nothing there except the name and the comment "board empty".
Posted by: tmcats

Re: diminating the Big 12 - 08/13/18 01:32 PM

https://twitter.com/JonRothstein/status ... 7663541249

Big 12 Offseason Power Rankings:
1. Kansas
2. Kansas State
3. TCU
4. West Virginia
5. Texas
6. Iowa State
7. Baylor
8. Texas Tech
9. Oklahoma
10. Oklahoma State

B12 First Team
Quentin Grimes, Kansas
Lindell Wigginton, Iowa State
Dean Wade, Kansas State
Dedric Lawson, Kansas
Sagaba Konate, West Virginia

Impact B12 Transfers:
Dedric Lawson, Kansas
K.J. Lawson, Kansas
Charlie Moore, Kansas
Yuat Atok, TCU (JUCO)
Mario Kegler, Baylor
Makai Mason, Baylor
Michael Weathers, Oklahoma State
Marial Shayok, Iowa State
Tariq Owens, Texas Tech
Matt Mooney, Texas Tech

Big 12 Preseason Player of the Year:
Dedric Lawson, Kansas
Posted by: moose1

Re: diminating the Big 12 - 08/13/18 02:31 PM

Originally Posted By: tmcats
https://twitter.com/JonRothstein/status ... 7663541249

Big 12 Offseason Power Rankings:
1. Kansas
2. Kansas State
3. TCU
4. West Virginia
5. Texas
6. Iowa State
7. Baylor
8. Texas Tech
9. Oklahoma
10. Oklahoma State

B12 First Team
Quentin Grimes, Kansas
Lindell Wigginton, Iowa State
Dean Wade, Kansas State
Dedric Lawson, Kansas
Sagaba Konate, West Virginia

Impact B12 Transfers:
Dedric Lawson, Kansas
K.J. Lawson, Kansas
Charlie Moore, Kansas
Yuat Atok, TCU (JUCO)
Mario Kegler, Baylor
Makai Mason, Baylor
Michael Weathers, Oklahoma State
Marial Shayok, Iowa State
Tariq Owens, Texas Tech
Matt Mooney, Texas Tech

Big 12 Preseason Player of the Year:
Dedric Lawson, Kansas


I would ignore all of that. Clearly it is wrong, since Dean Wade was not named the preseason player of the year.
Posted by: PHOGUSHER

Re: diminating the Big 12 - 08/13/18 05:43 PM

Originally Posted By: oldalum
I had it bookmarked so I can still get in, but there's nothing there except the name and the comment "board empty".


Lol...you suckas are kidding me right. It still exists accoreding to an ex poster. Ex poster states Vega is destroying his own creation....basically Victor Vega Frankenstein...lol.
Posted by: Maximus

Re: Derrick Lawson next Big 12 POY - 08/14/18 04:40 PM

Other new commers of the year candidates and possible post season 1st team candidates:

Taken Horton-Tucker

Courtney Ramey

Kampala Hepa

Having Moore

Zsuzsanna Malomhegyi
Posted by: Maximus

Re: Derrick Lawson next Big 12 POY - 08/20/18 04:47 PM

Posted by: parkhawk3319

Re: diminating the Big 12 - 08/21/18 04:15 PM

More sportswriters getting it wrong. No mention of King Dean or KSU in CBS Sports preseason discussion of teams that have a chance to win it all.

"Kansas is talented, deep and old. They have to be the favorite to win it all. Dedric Lawson is going to dominate that league."

Kansas has everything you need to win a national title -- including five players who have already averaged more than 12.0 points per game at the high-major level. The best of the bunch should be Dedric Lawson. He's a 6-foot-9 transfer who averaged 19.2 points and 9.9 rebounds two seasons ago at Memphis. And multiple people close to KU's program have told me they expect him to be the Big 12 Player of the Year.

That's all well and good, but let's be realistic, Lawson is just an AAC player.
Posted by: tmcats

Re: diminating the Big 12 - 08/22/18 05:15 PM

bill certainly putting it on for d'lawson. doesn't want dean wade throwing any shade on his private mark.
Posted by: parkhawk3319

Re: diminating the Big 12 - 08/22/18 06:02 PM

No doubt Self loses sleep at night thinking about King Dean, the rest of our schedule is filled with teams of mere mortals. And of course Self controls the sportswriters and their opinions just like he controls the refs. No other explanation.
Posted by: Maximus

Re: Dedric Lawson next Big 12 POY - 08/22/18 09:11 PM

Posted by: tmcats

Re: diminating the Big 12 - 08/23/18 02:28 PM

coaches or media select the preseason poy? if media, bill will likely get his way, d'lawson being the best thing since french toast even well before his first serving at the table.
Posted by: 58hawk

Re: diminating the Big 12 - 08/23/18 05:41 PM

Originally Posted By: tmcats
coaches or media select the preseason poy? if media, bill will likely get his way, d'lawson being the best thing since french toast even well before his first serving at the table.
Sour grapes?
Posted by: tmcats

Re: diminating the Big 12 - 08/24/18 11:59 AM

just an observation. it will be interesting to see who gets preseason poy, for sure. and then the games, whew! for once, it would be nice if the first was in mhk rather than afh.
Posted by: Maximus

Re: Dedric Lawson next Big 12 POY - 08/30/18 01:52 PM

Sports Illustrated Mock Draft 2019

Derrick Lawson is at #42

Lindell Wigginton is at #25 and Quinten Grimes is at #7, Jarrett Culver at #20 . Drafted too high, IMO.

Xavier Sneed was listed at #56. Dean Wade was not listed.

Molly Constable


Posted by: parkhawk3319

Re: Dedric Lawson next Big 12 POY - 08/30/18 02:38 PM

No doubt Bill Self dictated this list to the sportswriter just as he does on every article written about college basketball. The only question is what NBA teams are going to tank this season to try and win the King Dean lottery?
Posted by: 58hawk

Re: Dedric Lawson next Big 12 POY - 09/03/18 05:47 PM

Ouch! Gotta hurt tmcats about Wade.
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Dedric Lawson next Big 12 POY - 09/04/18 05:53 PM

Originally Posted By: parkhawk3319
No doubt Bill Self dictated this list to the sportswriter just as he does on every article written about college basketball. The only question is what NBA teams are going to tank this season to try and win the King Dean lottery?
Sports Illustrated? Who has heard of that mag, anyway. It's BOUND to be the monster dude from KSU...
Posted by: Maximus

Re: Dedric Lawson next Big 12 POY - 09/15/18 07:25 PM

Maria Grazia Cucinotta

Posted by: Maximus

Re: Dedric Lawson next Big 12 POY - 10/18/18 09:25 AM

Good article on press on.

Jarrett Culver (Texas Tech) is underrated by coaches and media.

Everyone expects Grimes over K.J. Lawson. I think K.J. starts over Grimes.

High expectations!

Kansas' Preseason Big 12 Freshman of the Year Selections

1999-2000 - Nick Collison

2003-04 - David Padgett (co)

2005-06 - Julian Wright

2010-11 - Josh Selby

2013-14 - Andrew Wiggins

2014-15 - Cliff Alexander (co)

2015-16 - Cheick Diallo

2016-17 - Josh Jackson

2018-19 - Quentin Grimes



Russian beauty Jordan Pryce
Posted by: Maximus

Re: Dedric Lawson next Big 12 POY - 10/21/18 05:49 PM

Sports Illustrated writer list Big 12 POY chk


Patty Michova
Posted by: tmcats

Re: Dedric Lawson next Big 12 POY - 10/22/18 10:47 AM

seems B12 coaches unanimously disagree with him.
Posted by: Maximus

Re: Dedric Lawson next Big 12 POY - 10/23/18 10:41 PM

Lawson Preseason All American

Self might play Dedric Lawson like Josh Jackson.

Posted by: Maximus

Re: Dedric Lawson next Big 12 POY - 10/24/18 08:03 AM

Posted by: Maximus

Re: Dedric Lawson next Big 12 POY - 10/24/18 03:06 PM

Posted by: Maximus

Re: Derrick Lawson next Big 12 POY - 11/02/18 08:26 AM

Originally Posted By: AlOerter
To me Agbaji is kinda the unknown factor. Could be ready to contribute right away or may be a project. I felt Cunliffe was in coach's dog house for some reason last year but is definitely talented enough to play.


Ochai Agbaji has played well in exhibition. Looks like he is competing for the SG spot or could come off the bench.

The SG spot is undetermined.

SG K.J. Lawson
SG Quentin Grimes
SG Lagerald Vick
SG Ochai Agbaji

Mary Queen
Posted by: MICHHAWK

Re: Derrick Lawson next Big 12 POY - 11/02/18 08:35 AM

K.J. Lawson won't crack the lineup. He is a mop up minutes guy.

OA is a candidate for a redshirt. I like him. Most any other year he would probably find a way to help us. But we just have too many bodies this season.

I'm on the fence whether The Lightfeet should redshirt or not.

We have too many bodies this year. Good problem to have.
Posted by: Maximus

Re: Dedric Lawson next Big 12 POY - 11/05/18 03:04 PM

Udoka Azubuike "Lionell Messi reminds me of myself."

Posted by: parkhawk3319

Re: Dedric Lawson next Big 12 POY - 11/06/18 08:49 PM

Lawson puts up 20 pts 14 rebs 6 ast 2 stl and 2blks on the big stage .against an Izzo coached team that is always soft in the paint so you should figure these numbers are halved against anything other than a weak Big 10 team with few athletes.

Meanwhile King Dean is pouring in 14 pts and snatching 9 rebs and 3 to's against a scrappy Pitt State team. That is practically a triple double against an MIAA power.

We are only one game in and the POY in Big 12 is already obvious. King Dean is a force of nature, a man among boys, the National POY likely and Big 12 POY is a given.
Posted by: PHOGUSHER

Re: Dedric Lawson next Big 12 POY - 11/06/18 09:23 PM

Dedric actually missed a lot of shots he normally makes. Him and Dok need to work on the 2 man game in the paint...that will be pain for many opponents..
Posted by: PHOGUSHER

Re: Dedric Lawson next Big 12 POY - 11/06/18 09:24 PM

Park....are you stoned...lol
Posted by: Maximus

Re: Dedric Lawson next Big 12 POY - 11/06/18 10:28 PM

Grimes 1st game, making a statement for the starting SG spot.

Posted by: Maximus

Re: Dedric Lawson next Big 12 POY - 11/25/18 08:34 PM

http://m.kusports.com/news/2018/nov/24/big-night-big-stage-leaves-kus-lawson-brothers-bea/


Lawson brothers and Vick's bond as Tennessee Cobbs was greatly displayed in KU's Tennessee win. Playing those three on the court at the same time produced great basketball.

Anri Okita




Posted by: PHOGUSHER

Re: Dedric Lawson next Big 12 POY - 11/25/18 09:39 PM

Yes those 3 work well together. Dok and Dotson shoukd be the other 2 starters until Grimes gets his head out of his assss..
Posted by: parkhawk3319

Re: Dedric Lawson next Big 12 POY - 12/01/18 07:16 PM

So King Dean plays a game for the ages today absolutely dominating the front court of the Golden Eagles pouring in 11 pts and snatching every carom in sight for an eye popping 3 rebs. He almost singlehandedly willed his team to victory before fouling out, one of the most heroic performances in Big 12 history maybe.

Considering how Lawson was stifled by the Marquette front line and how little he did tonight, the race for POY is pretty much over.
Posted by: tmcats

Re: Dedric Lawson next Big 12 POY - 12/03/18 02:43 PM

k-state is not playing well at all. wade was preseason poy as i called for all summer and rightfully so. looks like you model citizen is the front-runner today.
Posted by: Maximus

Re: Dedric Lawson next Big 12 POY - 12/06/18 10:35 AM

Dean's opponent should have easily given him 20 ppg in this season by now. Is the K-State senior 3V is underperforming or showing full ability? Stats and wins determine.



Posted by: Maximus

Re: Dedric Lawson next Big 12 POY - 12/06/18 10:40 AM

http://m.kusports.com/news/2018/dec/05/ku-employ-more-four-guard-lineups-udoka-azubuike-s/

Nice comment about playing team basketball without the ball.

Lawson, who will shift over to the five, now will have the option to pick and choose his spots for one of the four guards on the perimeter. The space allows the wings to attack the rim on a more consistent basis, since nobody is really clogging up the lane.

An example of that occurred with 9:42 left in the second half, as freshman Devon Dotson bursted through the lane with the shot clock winding down, finishing with an and-one play to give KU a 49-41 lead at the time.

“I know those guys love to drive,” Lawson said. “I pick and choose wisely, when to go and when not to go. I don’t want to throw (their) rhythm off.”


Isabella De Santos
Posted by: tmcats

Re: Dedric Lawson next Big 12 POY - 12/06/18 10:44 AM

Originally Posted By: Maximus
Dean's opponent should have easily given him 20 ppg in the post season by now. Is the K-State senior 3V is underperforming or showing full ability? Stats and wins determine.





anyone want to tell me what that ^^^ says?
Posted by: PHOGUSHER

Re: Dedric Lawson next Big 12 POY - 12/06/18 11:29 AM

No...now gtfo...toodles
Posted by: parkhawk3319

Re: Dedric Lawson next Big 12 POY - 12/08/18 09:40 PM

King Dean was only 8 pts and 3 rebs and 7 to's away from another triple double. He continues to put distance between himself and every other player in the Big 12. He is a double double machine.
Posted by: parkhawk3319

Re: Dedric Lawson next Big 12 POY - 12/16/18 03:39 PM

King Dean continues to show why he is the favorite to win National Player of the Year and run away with the Big 12 POY. He almost posted his second double double of the season on Saturday. As the third option on a slowly sinking KSU team how can you deny him his rightful place in Big 12 history? He carried his team past an opponent that is figured to finish in the upper half of the Sun Belt Conference and might make the NCAA tourney.

I can't think of another Big 12 player at this point in the season who has numbers that could compare to what King Dean is putting up every game.
Posted by: Maximus

Re: Dedric Lawson next Big 12 POY - 12/16/18 05:17 PM

Originally Posted By: parkhawk3319
King Dean was only 8 pts and 3 rebs and 7 to's away from another triple double. He continues to put distance between himself and every other player in the Big 12. He is a double double machine.


Dedric Lawson is averaging a double double with 20 ppg and 10 rpg.


Momoka Nishina
Posted by: tmcats

Re: Dedric Lawson next Big 12 POY - 12/17/18 11:18 AM

wade's injury may be season-threatening. so, your transfer probably has it wrapped up unless barry brown turns it on.
Posted by: Maximus

Re: Dedric Lawson next Big 12 POY - 12/17/18 11:52 AM

Originally Posted By: Maximus
Good article on press on.

Jarrett Culver (Texas Tech) is underrated by coaches and media.



http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/conferences/statistics/player/_/id/8

Stats confirm Culver being underrated by media, but not me.

Esa Ahmad could be a 1st team All Big 12

Miss Reins T
Posted by: tmcats

Re: Dedric Lawson next Big 12 POY - 12/18/18 03:37 PM

Kellis Robinett
@KellisRobinett
Bruce Weber says Dean Wade suffered a small tear in a tendon in his foot. Could be out for just a few weeks. Could be out for a lot of weeks. No sure timetable for his return, but he does think Wade will play again this season.

45
2:09 PM - Dec 18, 2018
Posted by: Maximus

Re: Dedric Lawson next Big 12 POY - 12/19/18 08:09 AM

Originally Posted By: tmcats
Kellis Robinett
@KellisRobinett
Bruce Weber says Dean Wade suffered a small tear in a tendon in his foot. Could be out for just a few weeks. Could be out for a lot of weeks. No sure timetable for his return, but he does think Wade will play again this season.

45
2:09 PM - Dec 18, 2018


https://www.kansas.com/sports/college/big-12/kansas-state/article223257395.html

When K-State advanced to the Elite Eight of last season’s NCAA Tournament, it did so largely without Wade, who missed all but eight minutes of postseason action because of a stress fracture in his left foot.

One of those players, like Udoka Azubuike, "Dok," who are always getting hurt. K-State had players step up last year when Wade was out, so expect the same competitive play for K-State in the replacement.


Julia Boin

Posted by: Maximus

Re: Dedric Lawson next Big 12 POY - 01/16/19 11:29 PM

Dedric Lawson a late 2nd round pick according to NBADraft.net. Lolz. 😯



Alyssa Lavonne
Posted by: Maximus

Re: Derrick Lawson next Big 12 POY - 01/30/19 05:51 PM

Originally Posted By: Maximus
Originally Posted By: AlOerter
To me Agbaji is kinda the unknown factor. Could be ready to contribute right away or may be a project. I felt Cunliffe was in coach's dog house for some reason last year but is definitely talented enough to play.


Ochai Agbaji has played well in exhibition. Looks like he is competing for the SG spot or could come off the bench.

The SG spot is undetermined.

SG K.J. Lawson
SG Quentin Grimes
SG Lagerald Vick
SG Ochai Agbaji

Mary Queen


Still not determined.
Posted by: Maximus

Re: Dedric Lawson next Big 12 POY - 01/30/19 05:58 PM

KU's leader;

The 6-foot-9 redshirt junior from Memphis would never say this, because he’s a team-first player who always supports and speaks highly of the players around him at Kansas, but Lawson understands he has to adapt in those situations, because KU (16-5 overall, 5-3 Big 12) doesn’t have much else to offer offensively when he’s not rolling.

http://m.kusports.com/weblogs/smithology...emplates=mobile

Bianca Kmiec
Posted by: Maximus

Re: Dedric Lawson next Big 12 POY - 01/30/19 09:13 PM

Player of the year candidates:

Iowa St. Shayok
Texas Tech. Culver
Kansas Lawson

http://big12statistics.com/sports/mbkb/2018-19/leaders

Lawson leads the league in rebounding. Culver just under 4 assist per game. Shayok lack rebounding and assist.

Big 12 POY is Lawson and 1st team All-American.


Shylock in "The Merchant of Venice" played by Al Pacino.
Posted by: Maximus

Re: Derrick Lawson next Big 12 POY - 02/09/19 07:00 PM

Originally Posted By: Maximus
Ochai Agbaji has played well in exhibition. Looks like he is competing for the SG spot or could come off the bench.

The SG spot is undetermined.

SG K.J. Lawson
SG Quentin Grimes
SG Lagerald Vick
SG Ochai Agbaji



Agbaji with another 20 plus game. I'd go with Ochai at the SG over the McDonald's All-American Grimes.

Posted by: Maximus

Re: Derrick Lawson next Big 12 POY - 02/25/19 09:41 PM

Dean Wade vs Dedric Lawson Round 2...... Winner: Dedric Lawson


Nia Sanchez
Posted by: Maximus

Re: Dedric Lawson next Big 12 POY - 02/28/19 09:28 PM

Bill Self on Big 12 Player of the Year

Just like the actual Big 12 race, the conference's men's basketball player of the year competition figures to be decided the last game or two of the season.

"I don't think anybody has separated themselves," Kansas coach Bill Self said Thursday at his weekly news conference at Allen Fieldhouse. "Last year, Trae (Young, Oklahoma) and Devonte (Graham, KU) separated themselves from everybody else. You've got two first-team All-Americans. It was Trae and Devonte hands down and then everybody else.

"This year we're not going to have that in our league. We're not going to have multiple first-team All-Americans. This year the best player on the best team should probably win is how I feel about it."

A year ago, Graham edged Young for league player of the year honors. KU's Frank Mason won the award in 2016-17 and Oklahoma's Buddy Hield the two seasons before that.

"Barry Brown ... if K-State wins league he should be player of the year," Self said. "If we win, Dedric (Lawson, league's leading scorer and rebounder) should be player of the year. If Iowa State wins ... (Marial) Shayok. If Tech wins, (Jarrett) Culver."

Self noted that Baylor also is a team that can definitely win the league, but didn't mention any individual from that squad Thursday. Makai Mason leads the Bears in scoring at 14.6 points per game, which ranks ninth in the league.

"If it's a tie? I'd sell out it being a four-way tie and give it to all four," Self said. "Then it would probably come down to stats. To me if there is an outright winner, that guy deserves it."

Self was asked if he'd miss competing against some of the above mentioned players next season.

"No, not at all," he said with a smile. "I think there are certain guys who play for other teams, you enjoy the competitiveness. I remember going against (Iowa State's) Georges Niang and Monte Morris. We loved playing against them and they loved playing against us (and sometimes chatted with Self during games).

"They would always talk smack and all that stuff. There's not many guys in the league I do that with personally. When Blake (Griffin) and Kevin (Durant) and Michael (Beasley) all left ... as a competitor you miss going against those guys each and every year even though the reality of it is the reason why we miss the competitiveness is because they were the best our sport had to offer in those particular years.

"I don't think I'm going to miss Dean (Wade) and Barry (Brown) and (Kamau) Stokes that much. They've been really good players for K-State. They've represented their school in a tremendous way, all those things. I don't think anybody in our league missed Perry (Ellis) when Perry left. They were probably glad. It was probably his time to go even though he was here like 17 years."



It is one of the most famous photographs taken in Hollywood in the 1950s. Sophia Loren is caught staring down at Jayne Mansfield's ample cleavage as they sit side-by-side during a fancy cocktail. Famous nipple slip. Sophia Loren was genuinely shocked at Jayne Mansfield's low-cut dress, as a famous 1957 photo indicates, she told EW. Photo of Claire and Gloria Sophia and Jayne for fans of Modern Family. The picture of Claire and Gloria featured in Hayley's photography exhibit was an homage to a classic shot of Sophia Loren.

Posted by: tmcats

Re: Dedric Lawson next Big 12 POY - 03/10/19 07:29 PM

a lot of this narrative didn't age very well, did it.

Posted by: Maximus

Re: Dedric Lawson next Big 12 POY - 03/11/19 07:57 AM

Originally Posted By: Maximus
Good article on press on.

Jarrett Culver (Texas Tech) is underrated by coaches and media.


All-Big 12 First Team
Marial Shayok
Dedric Lawson
Barry Brown
Dean Wade
Jarrett Culver

Dean Wade get voted in on stats or injury was considered for reputation?

Bill Self thinks it not about stats of the player but if you win the game. I think stats should be considered 1st with Lawson losing out this year.

Culver helped the Red Raiders to a share of their first Big 12 regular season title. The sophomore guard ranks third in the Big 12 in scoring (18.3 ppg), fifth in assists (3.6) and is 10th in rebounding (6.2).

Lawson averaging 20 Points per game and 10 Rebounds per game doesn't happen very often.



Malillany Marín is a Cuban-Mexican
Posted by: PHOGUSHER

Re: Dedric Lawson next Big 12 POY - 03/11/19 08:40 AM

Deano already scratched for the B12 Tourney. Liberace has a built in excuse for not winning it...
Posted by: tmcats

Re: Dedric Lawson next Big 12 POY - 03/11/19 11:36 AM

he's already won 'it.'
Posted by: Jaycat92

Re: Dedric Lawson next Big 12 POY - 03/11/19 12:08 PM

I question if Dedric is actually a team player. After I saw his blow up right before half in a game earlier in Big 12 play, I lost some respect for his game and his demeanor. We have too many transfer players here right now with issues. You transfer when your not happy, and usually its on the player himself. We will see, won't we. This team has no chemistry. "I" before team.
Posted by: parkhawk3319

Re: Dedric Lawson next Big 12 POY - 03/12/19 03:56 PM

Dang, I thought for sure Dean had it all wrapped up. Imagine my surprise when he didn't even get a sniff of POY or averaging a double double. I guess those of us who figured he was a double double machine missed the fact that he has always been a mediocre rebounder for his size. More of a Mitch Lightfoot with a nice jumpshot than a Larry Bird comparison really.

Now of course comes the big chance for redemption. A KSU team with lots of senior leadership, a Hall of Fame caliber coach, they went to the Elite Eight last year and returned everyone, then won the Big 12 this year. You would think this would be a 1 or 2 seed team going into the NCAA. Anything less than a Final Four and this the season is a disappointment. Liberace will reload and be ready to continue this incredible streak next season though.

Is it too early to declare a Decade of Dominance?
Posted by: PHOGUSHER

Re: Dedric Lawson next Big 12 POY - 03/12/19 08:11 PM

Originally Posted By: tmcats
he's already won 'it.'


Referring to the B12 Tourney dumasss...
Posted by: Maximus

Re: Dedric Lawson next Big 12 POY - 03/12/19 09:53 PM

Should be no talk on the 2018 Rolando Blackman Most Valuable Player Award winner going to the NBA.

K-State girls on Spring Break
Posted by: PHOGUSHER

Re: Dedric Lawson next Big 12 POY - 03/12/19 09:57 PM

I dont think so...
Posted by: tmcats

Re: Dedric Lawson next Big 12 POY - 03/13/19 09:18 AM

Originally Posted By: PHOGUSHER
Originally Posted By: tmcats
he's already won 'it.'


Referring to the B12 Tourney dumasss...


it's yet to be played, phoggy.

Posted by: Jman1

Re: Dedric Lawson next Big 12 POY - 03/13/19 10:48 AM

Originally Posted By: Maximus
Should be no talk on the 2018 Rolando Blackman Most Valuable Player Award winner going to the NBA.

K-State girls on Spring Break


Kona State University? H3ll YEAH. Where do i sign up? Or do I have to pay that Operation Varsity Blues guy to get me in there?
Posted by: PHOGUSHER

Re: Dedric Lawson next Big 12 POY - 03/13/19 11:10 AM

Originally Posted By: tmcats
Originally Posted By: PHOGUSHER
Originally Posted By: tmcats
he's already won 'it.'


Referring to the B12 Tourney dumasss...


it's yet to be played, phoggy.



Ok whatever. Hey wtf is up with your fellow Purp fans...did some grocery shopping at my local HyVee yesterday. Stopped at their Market Grille Pub for a few brews. Drunken KState fan came in and basically after seeing me in my new KU sweatshirt started bragging on how they won the regular season and would win the tournament also. I said after 14 straight it was time for somebody else to win the conference. I also said they have to play in the tournament first to determine its outcome but I doubt if the Purps would win considering Deanos sore big toe.

He then wanted to bet any amount of money..heck he barely had enough for his beer. I said sure 20 bucks. Then he proceeds to cuss me out for being a Jayhawks fan. I said he needed to cool off ..next thing I know he is challenging to a fight in the stores parking lot. I laughed and dtated sure I really want to go to jail for whipping a drunk 52 yr old purp plowbilly. He started cussing more and my friend thats the bartender took off and got the stores cop to come in and settle the idiot down.

The dumasss started to give the cop a hard time but eventually he settled down. He kind of apologized so myself being a nice individual bought him one drink. He started getting rowdy again so I decided to leave.

I called my bartender friend later to see what happen. Not only was he rude to her the goofball sought out the store cop and poked him in the chest. The cop didnt put him on his ass..instead he followed him out to his car discreetly and called a few patrol cars. Needless to say the plowbilly got a DUI in the parking lot and was going to spend his night in jail. All for me wearing a KU pullover. Again you clowns cant handle winning very well...its hilarious.

Posted by: tmcats

Re: Dedric Lawson next Big 12 POY - 03/13/19 11:47 AM

someone suggested you were in the walmart line, phoggy, true? whatever, stop hanging out with drunks and get to work.

Posted by: PHOGUSHER

Re: Dedric Lawson next Big 12 POY - 03/13/19 01:37 PM

Retired 33 yrs Lockheed and Navy...6600 a month net pension...what do you do but fling purple crap...besides it was HyVee...Walmarts are for you simple plowbillies...
Posted by: tmcats

Re: Dedric Lawson next Big 12 POY - 03/13/19 01:49 PM

Originally Posted By: PHOGUSHER
Retired 33 yrs Lockheed and Navy...6600 a month net pension...what do you do but fling purple crap...besides it was HyVee...Walmarts are for you simple plowbillies...


well, we salute your service, sea-dog.

Posted by: PHOGUSHER

Re: Dedric Lawson next Big 12 POY - 03/13/19 02:32 PM

At least I served...I know your superior cousin Geezer/Postelwait served...how about you...doubtful.
Posted by: tmcats

Re: Dedric Lawson next Big 12 POY - 03/13/19 04:49 PM

Originally Posted By: PHOGUSHER
At least I served...I know your superior cousin Geezer/Postelwait served...how about you...doubtful.


actually, right here for a year, May '68-69, something called TET happened. great fun, leaving.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ptmCbIgzUVc
Posted by: PHOGUSHER

Re: Dedric Lawson next Big 12 POY - 03/13/19 04:57 PM

Agent Orange...ok that explains some things...sorry you had to go through that..ok were you the guy with the glasses and man boobs...lol
Posted by: tmcats

Re: Dedric Lawson next Big 12 POY - 03/13/19 05:00 PM

Originally Posted By: PHOGUSHER
Agent Orange...ok that explains some things...sorry you had to go through that..


one of those, glad i experienced but would not want to repeat deals. coming home to the streets of san francisco was more hateful than anything i experienced at long bien or saigon. i will never forget that.



Posted by: PHOGUSHER

Re: Dedric Lawson next Big 12 POY - 03/13/19 05:04 PM

Did you hear the expression "baby killer" followed with spittle to the face. Kind of the way you are treated on the crimson. I always wondered why Geezer stood up for you...were you two in the same division..regiment..company...whatever.
Posted by: tmcats

Re: Dedric Lawson next Big 12 POY - 03/13/19 10:48 PM

Originally Posted By: PHOGUSHER
Did you hear the expression "baby killer" followed with spittle to the face. Kind of the way you are treated on the crimson. I always wondered why Geezer stood up for you...were you two in the same division..regiment..company...whatever.


"how dare you wear that uniform in this city, you sons of ................." and on and on and on. there's more to the story but in the end, i also vividly remember flying home on ozark to sioux city the next day. my young wife was waiting there in a yellow dress. she made me forget the streetside flower girl and all those 'nam days in one big hurry.

Posted by: PHOGUSHER

Re: Dedric Lawson next Big 12 POY - 03/14/19 10:11 AM

Is that her...or Geezer in drag???...Just kidding and I thank you for your service. You were dodging bullets in a thankless war.....when people thank me for my service I tell them to save such thanks for those that were in harms way. I punched holes in the ocean on a boat meant to sink. Only danger I faced was if somebody forgot to close the screen door..
Posted by: tmcats

Re: Dedric Lawson next Big 12 POY - 03/14/19 11:01 AM

Posted by: KYBLUEBLOOD

Re: Dedric Lawson next Big 12 POY - 03/15/19 09:07 PM

Originally Posted By: tmcats
Originally Posted By: PHOGUSHER
At least I served...I know your superior cousin Geezer/Postelwait served...how about you...doubtful.


actually, right here for a year, May '68-69, something called TET happened. great fun, leaving.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ptmCbIgzUVc


I thank you as well for your service.i have a friend who lost his dad in Vietnam. Afterwards they moved to Lawton, Ok. I’ve lost some friends over the years who served. You membdid your job the best you could.
I believe Geezer was there during TET. He mentioned it to me.
Posted by: Maximus

Re: Dedric Lawson next Big 12 POY - 03/16/19 08:54 AM

Originally Posted By: Maximus
Originally Posted By: Maximus
Good article on press on.

Jarrett Culver (Texas Tech) is underrated by coaches and media.


Bill Self thinks it not about stats of the player but if you win the game. I think stats should be considered 1st with Lawson losing out this year.



Sports Illustrated All-American Team
Dedric Lawson, Kansas: Many things haven't gone right for the Jayhawks this season, but one that has is Lawson. The former Memphis transfer is averaging a double double at 19.1 points and 10.6 rebounds and has been a steadying presence for Kansas in the paint.



Sporting News
Dedric Lawson, PF, Kansas, Jr.

Key stats: 19.1 ppg, 10.6 rpg, 49.1 pct FG
Defining game: 29 points, 15 rebounds and 13-of-17 shooting in 80-76 win at Iowa State

Overview: Lawson might have had an even more spectacular season had he not been forced to play nearly the entire year out of position because of the injury that took center Udoka Azubuike out for the year. Lawson had to play in his place, invariably defending bigger players and absorbing the physical punishment that went along with that. But even with that inconvenience, so to speak, he continued to excel and keep Kansas in the race for still another Big 12 championship. The Jayhawks didn’t get it, but the player who closed the regular season with 19 consecutive double-figure scoring games wasn’t to blame.


Bleacher Report

Dedric Lawson, Kansas
19.1 PPG, 10.6 RPG, 1.8 APG, 1.2 SPG, 1.1 BPG, 36.0% 3PT

Dedric Lawson is just about the only Jayhawk who both lived up to the hype and didn't have an extended absence from the team due to injury or personal reasons. Quentin Grimes and Charlie Moore were nowhere close to what we were expecting, and Udoka Azubuike, Lagerald Vick and Marcus Garrett each missed at least six games. But that one constant force of a stretch 5 was enough for Kansas to win 23 games and darn near extend The Streak to 15 years. It was a down year for Kansas, but it could have been an unmitigated disaster if not for Lawson.


The Associated Press, The United States Basketball Writers Association (USBWA), and The National Association of Basketball Coaches (NABC), have not come out with their awards.

Rosie Jones
Posted by: Jaycat92

Re: Dedric Lawson next Big 12 POY - 03/16/19 05:09 PM

If as a fanbase we have to find reasons to tout one of our players for POY, then his play on the court isn't good enough.
Posted by: Maximus

Re: Dedric Lawson next Big 12 POY - 04/26/19 08:38 AM

Dedric Lawson pre-draft ranking at #14 with Dean Wade #20.

http://www.espn.com/nba/draft/bestavailable/_/position/pf

Kansas
Declared for draft: Dedric Lawson,

Returning to school: Udoka Azubuike, Quentin Grimes, Devon Dotson, Silvio de Sousa

Posted by: PHOGUSHER

Re: Dedric Lawson next Big 12 POY - 04/26/19 09:39 AM

Only if that was accurate...
Posted by: tmcats

Re: Dedric Lawson next Big 12 POY - 04/26/19 10:45 AM

i find this list very hard to believe.

Posted by: madcapper

Re: Dedric Lawson next Big 12 POY - 04/26/19 01:16 PM

Then don't believe it, who cares what you think.
Posted by: PHOGUSHER

Re: Dedric Lawson next Big 12 POY - 04/26/19 06:27 PM

Nobody but Timmay and his version of Doctor K...please finish him Dr. K....