DJ Elliot and the D

Posted by: beenahawk

DJ Elliot and the D - 11/04/19 04:19 PM

Our defensive coordinator critically failed against the litterbox. Since he doubles as the OLB coach, why in the hell was the defense so befuddled by the simple QB option? To be unprepared for a basic play is one thing, to NEVER make a single adjustment against said play is criminal.

Hint to future opponents.....wanna beat KU? Run the wishbone and rush for 1,000 yards!

It also appears State figured out how to stop the pass attack....very simply make sure you pressure the QB and take away any rhythm.

The Cat's smoked us with basic football 101. My hat is off to them. Far, far better team and program.
Posted by: moose1

Re: DJ Elliot and the D - 11/04/19 05:00 PM

I have been disappointed with the D.

I know this will not be popular among the KU Sports faithful, but I think Bowen did a better job the last couple years. Now Bowen probably had a little better talent.

That said the defense was on the field A LOT, and that did not help at all.
Posted by: beenahawk

Re: DJ Elliot and the D - 11/04/19 05:01 PM

Originally Posted By: moose1
I have been disappointed with the D.

I know this will not be popular among the KU Sports faithful, but I think Bowen did a better job the last couple years. Now Bowen probably had a little better talent.

That said the defense was on the field A LOT, and that did not help at all.


A Bowen led defense would have at the very least, adjusted to the option play. Clint is a solid defensive mind, bet he was going nuts watching the ineptitude.
Posted by: EstebanBugatti

Re: DJ Elliot and the D - 11/04/19 05:09 PM

Originally Posted By: beenahawk
Originally Posted By: moose1
I have been disappointed with the D.

I know this will not be popular among the KU Sports faithful, but I think Bowen did a better job the last couple years. Now Bowen probably had a little better talent.

That said the defense was on the field A LOT, and that did not help at all.


A Bowen led defense would have at the very least, adjusted to the option play. Clint is a solid defensive mind, bet he was going nuts watching the ineptitude.


Throw out whatever drugs you're smoking. A Bowen led D would give up 50+ to KSUck. Elliot has no talent in the front 7 to work with right now.
Posted by: beenahawk

Re: DJ Elliot and the D - 11/04/19 05:21 PM

Originally Posted By: EstebanBugatti
Originally Posted By: beenahawk
Originally Posted By: moose1
I have been disappointed with the D.

I know this will not be popular among the KU Sports faithful, but I think Bowen did a better job the last couple years. Now Bowen probably had a little better talent.

That said the defense was on the field A LOT, and that did not help at all.


A Bowen led defense would have at the very least, adjusted to the option play. Clint is a solid defensive mind, bet he was going nuts watching the ineptitude.


Throw out whatever drugs you're smoking. A Bowen led D would give up 50+ to KSUck. Elliot has no talent in the front 7 to work with right now.


Not smoking a thing.......no talent is no excuse for not at least having the kids line up correctly to defend the option...that's all on DJ as coordinator and as far as stopping the option, as the OLB coach! Also, if you watched the game, KSU probably should have scored in excess of 50, they shot themselves in the foot to the tune of at least 3 TD's!
Posted by: vmlb

Re: DJ Elliot and the D - 11/04/19 07:45 PM

Originally Posted By: EstebanBugatti
Originally Posted By: beenahawk
Originally Posted By: moose1
I have been disappointed with the D.

I know this will not be popular among the KU Sports faithful, but I think Bowen did a better job the last couple years. Now Bowen probably had a little better talent.

That said the defense was on the field A LOT, and that did not help at all.


A Bowen led defense would have at the very least, adjusted to the option play. Clint is a solid defensive mind, bet he was going nuts watching the ineptitude.


Throw out whatever drugs you're smoking. A Bowen led D would give up 50+ to KSUck. Elliot has no talent in the front 7 to work with right now.

And Clint had a defense loaded with All Americans and All Conference talent.
Posted by: Magicman

Re: DJ Elliot and the D - 11/04/19 10:20 PM

I've been thinking the same thing, all season. Not only do we not defend the option, but we don't spy the quarterback. Not only those two things, but we haven't had a contain man all season. Every defense has to have someone responsible for pitch contain, to at least, turn the play back in. Our defense doesn't seem very sound, or very few of the players are assignment sound!
Posted by: EstebanBugatti

Re: DJ Elliot and the D - 11/04/19 10:24 PM

Originally Posted By: vmlb
Originally Posted By: EstebanBugatti
Originally Posted By: beenahawk
Originally Posted By: moose1
I have been disappointed with the D.

I know this will not be popular among the KU Sports faithful, but I think Bowen did a better job the last couple years. Now Bowen probably had a little better talent.

That said the defense was on the field A LOT, and that did not help at all.


A Bowen led defense would have at the very least, adjusted to the option play. Clint is a solid defensive mind, bet he was going nuts watching the ineptitude.


Throw out whatever drugs you're smoking. A Bowen led D would give up 50+ to KSUck. Elliot has no talent in the front 7 to work with right now.

And Clint had a defense loaded with All Americans and All Conference talent.


Wise and Dineen would make this Defense so much better. Bowen wasted them like he did Armstrong. You forgot just how retard Bowen really is. You do NOT want him back as the D Coordinator.
Posted by: vmlb

Re: DJ Elliot and the D - 11/05/19 09:11 PM



Throw out whatever drugs you're smoking. A Bowen led D would give up 50+ to KSUck. Elliot has no talent in the front 7 to work with right now. [/quote]
And Clint had a defense loaded with All Americans and All Conference talent. [/quote]

Wise and Dineen would make this Defense so much better. Bowen wasted them like he did Armstrong. You forgot just how retard Bowen really is. You do NOT want him back as the D Coordinator. [/quote]

WARNING..............WARNING.............. Politically incorrect post
Posted by: pizzanbeer

Re: DJ Elliot and the D - 11/07/19 08:01 PM

Eliot looks like a slightly better Bowen so far.
Posted by: beenahawk

Re: DJ Elliot and the D - 11/08/19 10:46 AM

Originally Posted By: pizzanbeer
Eliot looks like a slightly better Bowen so far.


Very slightly!

The issue I have with the entire team, offense, defense and special teams is that we are approaching game 10 and the kids don't look any better than they did in game 1. Seeing the same issues over and over again. We can't run the ball to the left side, even runs designed left get stuffed forcing Pooka to cut back right almost simultaneous to the handoff or pitch.

It's often said a team improves more from game one to game two than anytime else in the season.I sure hope Les and the staff can create some improvements in this off week, (11th week of the season!) otherwise we get clobbered in these final 3 contests.
Posted by: appyhawk

Re: DJ Elliot and the D - 11/08/19 03:34 PM

" the kids don't look any better than they did in game 1"

beena,I can understand frustration level being somewhat static, but when was your last eye checkup?
Posted by: beenahawk

Re: DJ Elliot and the D - 11/08/19 03:57 PM

Originally Posted By: appyhawk
" the kids don't look any better than they did in game 1"

beena,I can understand frustration level being somewhat static, but when was your last eye checkup?


June! (LOL) Yeah, I am frustrated, but not having a CLUE on the Cat's option play and still such pathetic o-line play is beginning to wear thin after 11 weeks.
Posted by: AlOerter

Re: DJ Elliot and the D - 11/10/19 03:50 PM

I think we had a guy a couple of times who had edge responsibility on the option who got pancaked and left us with 1 guy covering 2.
Posted by: pizzanbeer

Re: DJ Elliot and the D - 11/11/19 04:17 PM

We are not getting enough of a pass rush or stopping the run with the players we have in the 3-4 defense. Eliot has verbals from a lot of LBs so that will help. I would like to see him add more recruits for DL.
Posted by: Yardbirdbob

Re: DJ Elliot and the D - 11/11/19 06:43 PM

Originally Posted By: pizzanbeer
We are not getting enough of a pass rush or stopping the run with the players we have in the 3-4 defense. Eliot has verbals from a lot of LBs so that will help. I would like to see him add more recruits for DL.


I have wondered about the 3-4 defense all year. I've always understood it takes 3 really good front line guys for this to work well. A stud nose guard and two quick, oversized DE's. Not exactly the words one would use this year.
Posted by: pizzanbeer

Re: DJ Elliot and the D - 11/12/19 07:59 PM

Originally Posted By: Yardbirdbob

I have wondered about the 3-4 defense all year. I've always understood it takes 3 really good front line guys for this to work well. A stud nose guard and two quick, oversized DE's. Not exactly the words one would use this year.


Eliot is recruiting at nose guard with Terry and Caldwell. He did some recruiting at DE with Harris and Taylor. Maybe Eliot plans to go the JC route for recruiting DE for more depth. I wish he was adding more oversized DEs from high school recruits.

Bowen tried 3-4 when he was the DC and it did not work so he went back to 4-3. I prefer 4-3 as a base defense and mix in some 3-4. Eliot does not have the right sized players with enough experience to run an effective 3-4 right now or for next season either.