Pooka Williams Arrested/Suspended

Posted by: Josh2408

Pooka Williams Arrested/Suspended - 12/07/18 09:58 AM

Link Courtesy of Ku Sports.com

http://www2.kusports.com/news/2018/dec/07/ku-football-player-pooka-williams-arrested-suspici/
Posted by: PHOGUSHER

Re: Pooka Williams Arrested/Suspended - 12/07/18 09:59 AM

Must be related to Kareem Hunt.
Posted by: madcapper

Re: Pooka Williams Arrested/Suspended - 12/07/18 10:19 AM

Being an entitled athlete he'll get a slap on the wrist and say don't get caught next time.
Posted by: Topcitykid10

Re: Pooka Williams Arrested/Suspended - 12/07/18 11:28 AM

I hope there is nothing to this and some jealous girl making up something. If not, he should be gone! Come on man! Have you not been watching local media in the last few days?!?!?!?
Posted by: kuwins

Re: Pooka Williams Arrested/Suspended - 12/07/18 12:00 PM

Let's not jump to conclusions until this has been properly investigated. I don't agree that he should be gone, the difference between Pooka and kareem is that Hunt is a professional. If this proves true for Pooka they should seek the help he needs and insist that he does counseling and his punishment then should be given the change to prove himself. After that he should be gone if he repeats the offense. Just my 2 cents.
Posted by: Topcitykid10

Re: Pooka Williams Arrested/Suspended - 12/07/18 12:04 PM

Can you say last chance U
Posted by: tmcats

Re: Pooka Williams Arrested/Suspended - 12/07/18 01:07 PM

Originally Posted By: kuwins
Let's not jump to conclusions until this has been properly investigated. I don't agree that he should be gone, the difference between Pooka and kareem is that Hunt is a professional. If this proves true for Pooka they should seek the help he needs and insist that he does counseling and his punishment then should be given the change to prove himself. After that he should be gone if he repeats the offense. Just my 2 cents.


but this isn't ku hoops, dude. whistle
Posted by: beenahawk

Re: Pooka Williams Arrested/Suspended - 12/07/18 03:29 PM

Doesn't look good but.....INNOCENT until PROVEN guilty. Way to many folks convict before hearing everything or even ANYTHING! I'll wait and see what happens.

We all know Beaty wasn't big on discipline, might be good for KU and Pooka that Miles is new at the helm.
Posted by: Kirk

Re: Pooka Williams Arrested/Suspended - 12/07/18 03:36 PM

Things already feel different with Miles. He’s a leader. The program takes the assualt charge seriously and suspends Williams until we know more.

That is how it’s done. If Williams is innocent, then great, terrific, he will be exonerated. Nothing to worry about.

Posted by: appyhawk

Re: Pooka Williams Arrested/Suspended - 12/07/18 04:25 PM

How much cursing is allowed prior to banning? Cause I authored a major stream when I heard the Pooka news.

Anyone ever get any info on what caused his eligibility issue to start last season?
Posted by: KUHawkhead

Re: Pooka Williams Arrested/Suspended - 12/07/18 05:26 PM

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Posted by: beenahawk

Re: Pooka Williams Arrested/Suspended - 12/07/18 05:29 PM

Originally Posted By: KUHawkhead
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Bet I can [censored] guess what you were thinking though! laugh

Probably something regarding fornication, excrement, vaginal issues and oral sex!
Posted by: appyhawk

Re: Pooka Williams Arrested/Suspended - 12/07/18 06:53 PM

LOL. I know it's a LOT more sensitive than it used to be. The way things are now we couldn't even have a conversation about dogs without having half of it bleeped.

Did we ever find out why Pooka wasn't eligible early this past season?
Posted by: Josh2408

Re: Pooka Williams Arrested/Suspended - 12/07/18 07:09 PM

Originally Posted By: appyhawk
LOL. I know it's a LOT more sensitive than it used to be. The way things are now we couldn't even have a conversation about dogs without having half of it bleeped.

Did we ever find out why Pooka wasn't eligible early this past season?



Beaty kept that tight to his chest for some reason
Posted by: Kman_blue

Re: Pooka Williams Arrested/Suspended - 12/07/18 07:43 PM

Originally Posted By: appyhawk
LOL. I know it's a LOT more sensitive than it used to be. The way things are now we couldn't even have a conversation about dogs without having half of it bleeped.

Did we ever find out why Pooka wasn't eligible early this past season?
Even though he was cleared initially the NCAA circled back around on a small part of his HS transcript and then cleared him again. Didn't hear specifics but I wouldn't be surprised if another school *cough*LSU*cough* made some kind of complaint spurring the NCAA's re-clearance. That's just a hunch though on my part.
Posted by: Kman_blue

Re: Pooka Williams Arrested/Suspended - 12/07/18 08:04 PM

Let;s first see what happens here with this incident. Charges often can and do change during an investigation and even then that's not the same as being guilty of a charge.

As it currently stands an allegation of a misdemeanor assault isn't worthy of being kicked off a team IMHO. It ain't good, but it also doesn't seem to rise to the level of kicking someone out either.
Posted by: Josh2408

Re: Pooka Williams Arrested/Suspended - 12/08/18 09:35 AM

Tweet from Jesse Newell Jayhawk Insider

Pooka Williams’ next court appearance is set for Jan. 9. Judge James T. George set bond at $1,000 and ordered no contact with alleged victim along with disallowing a return to the alleged victim’s residence.
Posted by: appyhawk

Re: Pooka Williams Arrested/Suspended - 12/08/18 10:22 AM

I'm not up on the difference between misdemeanor assault and assault. But in general misdemeanor offences are relegated to similar level as parking ticket or insufficient fund check, right?

If the above is anywhere near correct then I agree this is at most a minor offense that might deserve therapeutic educational correction, but not a potentially life changing penalty that could derail a promising career opportunity.

Because the incident occurred at Pooka's place of residence I feel investigators should be diligent to pursue both points of view. Sometimes in domestic abuse cases the difference between victim and perpetrator can be a close call.
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Pooka Williams Arrested/Suspended - 12/08/18 11:09 AM

"Sometimes in domestic abuse cases the difference between victim and perpetrator can be a close call."

In this case, we are talking about a 18 yr old girl versus a student athlete running back who absorbs many physical hits on the football field and in practice. That's a close call? Not likely...
Posted by: appyhawk

Re: Pooka Williams Arrested/Suspended - 12/08/18 12:32 PM

Not likely?
Physical disparity assumed. I don't know details of the incident. However we do know she was at HIS PLACE. If she was misbehaving and he asked or demanded her to leave but she refused, I would agree he has the right to remove her. At the sametime I also agree he does NOT have the right to physically punish/abuse her. He should have called dorm security or something. I simply think investigators should consider all pertinent facts before rushing to a conclusion. I've seen some pretty rowdy/out of control females.
Posted by: MOHAWK

Re: Pooka Williams Arrested/Suspended - 12/08/18 01:19 PM

Originally Posted By: appyhawk
I've seen some pretty rowdy/out of control females.


I married one.
Posted by: appyhawk

Re: Pooka Williams Arrested/Suspended - 12/08/18 01:45 PM

LOL LOL
Have you been suspended yet? smile
Posted by: AlOerter

Re: Pooka Williams Arrested/Suspended - 12/08/18 02:38 PM

After what happened to Carlton Bragg, I'm going to reserve judgement till all the facts are in.
Posted by: MOHAWK

Re: Pooka Williams Arrested/Suspended - 12/08/18 02:48 PM

No. Just a life sentence but I am very happy. She is the best person I have ever known.
Posted by: Kman_blue

Re: Pooka Williams Arrested/Suspended - 12/08/18 03:23 PM

Hearing there were other witnesses and they all back up Pooka's version of events. Also hear LPD is looking to see if there's any video of the incident. Lastly heard it was a very minor incident relatively speaking and at least a couple lawyers who commonly practice in Lawrence/Douglas County believe the charges will be dismissed or dropped in the end.

Just the word on the street I've heard today as well as the opinions of a couple lawyers who occasionally run in the same circles I do.
Posted by: Josh2408

Re: Pooka Williams Arrested/Suspended - 12/08/18 03:34 PM

So that would all be good news for Pooka then Correct??
Posted by: Kman_blue

Re: Pooka Williams Arrested/Suspended - 12/08/18 03:40 PM

I would think so.

From some of the stuff I've heard it's sounding more and more like the girl getting angry at Pooka and refusing to leave his place so he escorted her to the door and she called the po po in response. That's if what I've heard is mostly true,
Posted by: KUHawkhead

Re: Pooka Williams Arrested/Suspended - 12/09/18 07:58 AM

I hope you are correct. There are gold diggers everywhere!

RCJHKU!
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Pooka Williams Arrested/Suspended - 12/09/18 10:28 AM

Originally Posted By: appyhawk
Not likely?
Physical disparity assumed. I don't know details of the incident. However we do know she was at HIS PLACE. If she was misbehaving and he asked or demanded her to leave but she refused, I would agree he has the right to remove her. At the sametime I also agree he does NOT have the right to physically punish/abuse her. He should have called dorm security or something. I simply think investigators should consider all pertinent facts before rushing to a conclusion. I've seen some pretty rowdy/out of control females.
When you play a physical game like football and particularly RB, you absorb punishing events in general. Afterward, in normal social events, the student athlete has a high standard to maintain. If a girl strikes out, as a rep of the college, you need to absorb it and move on without reciprocating IMO. Maybe the posters here don't agree with me, but we need to show both sides here. Clearly, for KU football, the dropping of charges, would be preferable.
Posted by: Kirk

Re: Pooka Williams Arrested/Suspended - 12/09/18 06:49 PM

Originally Posted By: Kman_blue
Hearing there were other witnesses and they all back up Pooka's version of events. Also hear LPD is looking to see if there's any video of the incident. Lastly heard it was a very minor incident relatively speaking and at least a couple lawyers who commonly practice in Lawrence/Douglas County believe the charges will be dismissed or dropped in the end.

Just the word on the street I've heard today as well as the opinions of a couple lawyers who occasionally run in the same circles I do.


Phew! Great news. Glad to hear it.
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Pooka Williams Arrested/Suspended - 12/09/18 07:12 PM

I have been in contact as a long time friend with a former police chief in Lawrence. Worked with me at LJW. My contacts say zip, nada. Kman has a habit of saying his rumors are backed by sources. Guess my beliefs have to be in sync with Kman...
Posted by: Kman_blue

Re: Pooka Williams Arrested/Suspended - 12/10/18 04:34 AM

Most of what I post that could be called rumors is 1st or 2nd hand information I either heard while talking with people I know and trust who are more connected than I or was told to me in answer to a question I posed to those same people. I don't randomly hear rumors from some guy talking loudly at Jefferson's downtown and come here posting about it.

Occasionally, I hear something from someone I don't know too well (or at all, a few times), but I do know they have connections and I try to couch that info as such because I don't know how much confidence to put in it and sometimes I hear info 3rd hand and I try to couch that info the same way.
Posted by: Kirk

Re: Pooka Williams Arrested/Suspended - 12/20/18 04:41 PM

Originally Posted By: Kman_blue
I would think so.

From some of the stuff I've heard it's sounding more and more like the girl getting angry at Pooka and refusing to leave his place so he escorted her to the door and she called the po po in response. That's if what I've heard is mostly true,


Alas, evidently no.
Posted by: 58hawk

Re: Pooka Williams Arrested/Suspended - 12/20/18 04:47 PM

Originally Posted By: Kirk
Originally Posted By: Kman_blue
I would think so.

From some of the stuff I've heard it's sounding more and more like the girl getting angry at Pooka and refusing to leave his place so he escorted her to the door and she called the po po in response. That's if what I've heard is mostly true,


Alas, evidently no.
He's history.
Posted by: madcapper

Re: Pooka Williams Arrested/Suspended - 12/20/18 06:39 PM

History, lol, he's all american so maybe 3 game suspension at most.
Posted by: Kirk

Re: Pooka Williams Arrested/Suspended - 12/20/18 07:39 PM

Everybody gotta smack their b*tch sometimes.
Posted by: 58hawk

Re: Pooka Williams Arrested/Suspended - 12/20/18 08:43 PM

Originally Posted By: Kirk
Everybody gotta smack their b*tch sometimes.
That's not funny moron.
Posted by: Kirk

Re: Pooka Williams Arrested/Suspended - 12/20/18 08:59 PM

Originally Posted By: 58hawk
Originally Posted By: Kirk
Everybody gotta smack their b*tch sometimes.
That's not funny moron.


I’m sure it wasn’t very funny indeed. And I do believe Pooka will be sent packing, quite correctly, unless there’s no truth to the accusations — unlikely.

He’s gotta go. I mean, this isn’t KU b-ball!
Posted by: Kman_blue

Re: Pooka Williams Arrested/Suspended - 12/20/18 10:12 PM

Originally Posted By: Kirk
Originally Posted By: Kman_blue
I would think so.

From some of the stuff I've heard it's sounding more and more like the girl getting angry at Pooka and refusing to leave his place so he escorted her to the door and she called the po po in response. That's if what I've heard is mostly true,


Alas, evidently no.
The affidavit is certainly a lot more serious sounding than the initial info that came out word of mouth.

There's no video and no clear cut physical evidence (was told he'd have faced felony charges if there was, but have no idea if that's true or not) from what I hear so that'd mean it's gonna be a he said she said thing most likely. Dunno how it'll end, but unless Pooka comes out and completely changes his side of the story I'd bet this still ends in a diversion agreement which wouldn't result in a record of any kind.

If that's the case I'd find it hard to believe he'd get booted from the team. That's assuming of course if what I'm now hearing is accurate.
Posted by: Josh2408

Re: Pooka Williams Arrested/Suspended - 12/20/18 10:30 PM

According to the affidavit he alledgedly punched her and chocked her
Posted by: vmlb

Re: Pooka Williams Arrested/Suspended - 12/20/18 10:37 PM

Originally Posted By: 58hawk
Originally Posted By: Kirk
Everybody gotta smack their b*tch sometimes.
That's not funny moron.


Isn't that a line in some rap song?
Posted by: tmcats

Re: Pooka Williams Arrested/Suspended - 12/21/18 09:12 AM

Originally Posted By: Kirk
Everybody gotta smack their b*tch sometimes.


good lord!

vick is shooting hoops, right? potentially, i see no difference in how ku handles williams.
Posted by: Kirk

Re: Pooka Williams Arrested/Suspended - 12/21/18 11:50 AM

True. When it comes to KU basketball, hitting women is not an issue. Guys get to play. Priorities.
Posted by: beenahawk

Re: Pooka Williams Arrested/Suspended - 12/21/18 02:19 PM

Originally Posted By: Kirk
True. When it comes to KU basketball, hitting women is not an issue. Guys get to play. Priorities.


Like everyone in our current culture...Pooka is guilty as hell until HE proves he is innocent. My hope is that Les waits until everything is adjudicated before he passes the KU Grid sentence on the kid...but since this occurred in liberal Larryville, on Snowflake Blvd, my gut tells me Pooka is already toast with no hope for future redemption.

Too bad he is from Louisiana, if he was from Honduras he would simply be misunderstood.
Posted by: Jman1

Re: Pooka Williams Arrested/Suspended - 12/21/18 04:55 PM

Originally Posted By: beenahawk
Originally Posted By: Kirk
True. When it comes to KU basketball, hitting women is not an issue. Guys get to play. Priorities.


Like everyone in our current culture...Pooka is guilty as hell until HE proves he is innocent. My hope is that Les waits until everything is adjudicated before he passes the KU Grid sentence on the kid...but since this occurred in liberal Larryville, on Snowflake Blvd, my gut tells me Pooka is already toast with no hope for future redemption.

Too bad he is from Louisiana, if he was from Honduras he would simply be misunderstood.


If he was from Honduras he would be given carte blanche to steal, assault, and battery the general public at all times. In Lawrence he would be given the key to the city
Posted by: track

Re: Pooka Williams Arrested/Suspended - 12/21/18 06:17 PM

Originally Posted By: Jman1
Originally Posted By: beenahawk
Originally Posted By: Kirk
True. When it comes to KU basketball, hitting women is not an issue. Guys get to play. Priorities.


Like everyone in our current culture...Pooka is guilty as hell until HE proves he is innocent. My hope is that Les waits until everything is adjudicated before he passes the KU Grid sentence on the kid...but since this occurred in liberal Larryville, on Snowflake Blvd, my gut tells me Pooka is already toast with no hope for future redemption.

Too bad he is from Louisiana, if he was from Honduras he would simply be misunderstood.


If he was from Honduras he would be given carte blanche to steal, assault, and battery the general public at all times. In Lawrence he would be given the key to the city

If only we had a beautiful wall around Lawrence we could keep all those criminal rapist non whites out. Tongue in cheek
Posted by: Jman1

Re: Pooka Williams Arrested/Suspended - 12/21/18 06:41 PM

Originally Posted By: track
Originally Posted By: Jman1
Originally Posted By: beenahawk
Originally Posted By: Kirk
True. When it comes to KU basketball, hitting women is not an issue. Guys get to play. Priorities.


Like everyone in our current culture...Pooka is guilty as hell until HE proves he is innocent. My hope is that Les waits until everything is adjudicated before he passes the KU Grid sentence on the kid...but since this occurred in liberal Larryville, on Snowflake Blvd, my gut tells me Pooka is already toast with no hope for future redemption.

Too bad he is from Louisiana, if he was from Honduras he would simply be misunderstood.


If he was from Honduras he would be given carte blanche to steal, assault, and battery the general public at all times. In Lawrence he would be given the key to the city

If only we had a beautiful wall around Lawrence we could keep all those criminal rapist non whites out. Tongue in cheek


Would he have the key to the wall as well? ya know so he could kinda come and go as he pleased.
Posted by: Kman_blue

Re: Pooka Williams Arrested/Suspended - 12/22/18 12:05 PM

Originally Posted By: Josh2408
According to the affidavit he alledgedly punched her and chocked her
Here's the basics of what I'm hearing now.

Pooka and his girl got in a scuff. Girl asked him to apologize about it and when he wouldn't she then called the police the day after the incident occurred. Witnesses are saying Pooka didn't choke or punch her, but she's claiming otherwise. There's scant to no evidence to back up her claim and the text message from Pooka apparently says he may have accidentally hit her on the arm (while trying to hit something or someone else) during the scuff.

I can't confirm any of this as only Pooka and the girl know the truth and the police I believe have the text messages in question.

Speaking again with someone I know who has had cases in Lawrence/Douglas County says he wouldn't be surprised if the charges eventually get dropped or at worse a plea deal is reached with Pooka doing diversion where his record is wiped clean on completion. They said if there was good evidence Pooka had either choked her or hit her in the stomach he'd have faced felony charges and not misdemeanor ones. If either of those cases is how it plays out, I just don't see how he'd be kicked off the team. If I had to guess right now, my guess is he serves a suspension of some kind but ends up playing the majority of the season next year but he better keep his nose clean the rest of the off-season.
Posted by: Kman_blue

Re: Pooka Williams Arrested/Suspended - 01/09/19 06:29 PM

Looks like Pooka has agreed to a diversion deal.

I'm guessing he'll have to do some community service and attend some classes as part of this diversion agreement.

Not sure what coach Miles will do, but I think Pooka will be playing for KU this Fall.
Posted by: KUHawkhead

Re: Pooka Williams Arrested/Suspended - 01/09/19 09:43 PM

He better!
Posted by: Josh2408

Re: Pooka Williams Arrested/Suspended - 01/09/19 10:10 PM

I just read as of Wednesday night the court hasn't received a signed devirsion from Pooka
Posted by: 58hawk

Re: Pooka Williams Arrested/Suspended - 01/10/19 08:59 AM

Originally Posted By: Josh2408
I just read as of Wednesday night the court hasn't received a signed devirsion from Pooka
That's not good.
Posted by: Kman_blue

Re: Pooka Williams Arrested/Suspended - 01/10/19 10:20 AM

Originally Posted By: 58hawk
Originally Posted By: Josh2408
I just read as of Wednesday night the court hasn't received a signed devirsion from Pooka
That's not good.
If my memory serves me correct, you're a lawyer, so what do you make of that if indeed he hasn't signed the diversion document?

I haven't had any contact with my lawyer acquaintances in a while and 1 thought there was a chance this could even get dismissed. Do you think that could be a reason why Pooka hadn't signed anything yet (again, if indeed that is true)? I've heard the girl had signed off on Pooka getting diversion, so I don't think there's anything from that side holding this up.
Posted by: Topcitykid10

Re: Pooka Williams Arrested/Suspended - 01/10/19 01:34 PM

Is he in town yet?
Posted by: Kman_blue

Re: Pooka Williams Arrested/Suspended - 01/10/19 03:45 PM

Originally Posted By: Topcitykid10
Is he in town yet?
If you're asking about Pooka, the answer is yes. He was at the bball game last night too.

Also, I just heard the case may have been dismissed and charges dropped. Can't confirm this yet, but someone just told me this is what they heard. If true, this would explain why Pooka hadn't signed the diversion agreement.
Posted by: tmcats

Re: Pooka Williams Arrested/Suspended - 01/10/19 05:57 PM

what, charges dropped against a ku woman-beating athlete? damn, you say. whistle
Posted by: Josh2408

Re: Pooka Williams Arrested/Suspended - 01/10/19 06:15 PM

Originally Posted By: Kman_blue
Originally Posted By: 58hawk
Originally Posted By: Josh2408
I just read as of Wednesday night the court hasn't received a signed devirsion from Pooka
That's not good.
If my memory serves me correct, you're a lawyer, so what do you make of that if indeed he hasn't signed the diversion document?

I haven't had any contact with my lawyer acquaintances in a while and 1 thought there was a chance this could even get dismissed. Do you think that could be a reason why Pooka hadn't signed anything yet (again, if indeed that is true)? I've heard the girl had signed off on Pooka getting diversion, so I don't think there's anything from that side holding this up.


From the Kansas City Star

https://amp.kansascity.com/sports/college/big-12/university-of-kansas/article224128520.html


The End of Paragraph 4 reads that the Diversion has not been signed and returned to the court as of Wednesday Afternoon
Posted by: moose1

Re: Pooka Williams Arrested/Suspended - 01/10/19 06:19 PM

Originally Posted By: tmcats
what, charges dropped against a ku woman-beating athlete? damn, you say. whistle


Hmm kinda like the sexual assault charges against Ell Roberson being dropped. Gamma. Foxtrot. Yankee.
Posted by: tmcats

Re: Pooka Williams Arrested/Suspended - 01/10/19 06:36 PM

Originally Posted By: moose1
Originally Posted By: tmcats
what, charges dropped against a ku woman-beating athlete? damn, you say. whistle


Hmm kinda like the sexual assault charges against Ell Roberson being dropped. Gamma. Foxtrot. Yankee.


lol. pookie moved to phx. phx is where ell's charges were dropped not mhk. pookie probably moved in with legeary victimless. what a joke. you guys should be ashamed.
Posted by: Kman_blue

Re: Pooka Williams Arrested/Suspended - 01/10/19 09:29 PM

You should be ashamed of...well just about everything you do on the internet...but in this case for publicly charging, trying, and convicting a young man for a crime based on ZERO actual knowledge of what did or did not happen and then claiming to be morally outraged because the legal system dismissed the case and dropped the charges.

How dare they not realize your public crucifixion of him! How dare the Douglas County DA not throw the book at him as you know he's 100% guilty!

Then to claim KU or KU fans should be ashamed of the legal process! GMAFB!!

Seems to me there's some old cliche about not judging others lest ye be judged and another about glass houses and all. Wonder how and why they came about?
Posted by: Kman_blue

Re: Pooka Williams Arrested/Suspended - 01/10/19 09:31 PM

Originally Posted By: Josh2408
From the Kansas City Star

https://amp.kansascity.com/sports/college/big-12/university-of-kansas/article224128520.html


The End of Paragraph 4 reads that the Diversion has not been signed and returned to the court as of Wednesday Afternoon
If what I heard today is true about the case being dismissed and charges dropped, then we now know why Pooka hadn't signed that diversion agreement.
Posted by: moose1

Re: Pooka Williams Arrested/Suspended - 01/11/19 10:42 AM

Originally Posted By: tmcats
Originally Posted By: moose1
Originally Posted By: tmcats
what, charges dropped against a ku woman-beating athlete? damn, you say. whistle


Hmm kinda like the sexual assault charges against Ell Roberson being dropped. Gamma. Foxtrot. Yankee.


lol. pookie moved to phx. phx is where ell's charges were dropped not mhk. pookie probably moved in with legeary victimless. what a joke. you guys should be ashamed.


What do we have to be ashamed about? Charges were dropped. In this day and age no judge is going to drop charges like that if Pooka had actually punched a women in the gut as well as choked her the charges would not be dismissed.

You like being a troll and stirring the pot, because you don't have anything better to do. I get it, but it is played out.
Posted by: tmcats

Re: Pooka Williams Arrested/Suspended - 01/11/19 11:10 AM

this is all so ku. if diversion, it means he admits to committing the crime. he if refuses the diversion, i'm not sure what the next step will be. maybe they room him with fellow woman puncher, vick, then they can practice being one another's case manager. you j'hawks should at some point be nauseated by your athletic department and chancellor. what a cesspool.
Posted by: beenahawk

Re: Pooka Williams Arrested/Suspended - 01/11/19 11:21 AM

Originally Posted By: tmcats
this is all so ku. if diversion, it means he admits to committing the crime. he if refuses the diversion, i'm not sure what the next step will be. maybe they room him with fellow woman puncher, vick, then they can practice being one another's case manager. you j'hawks should at some point be nauseated by your athletic department and chancellor. what a cesspool.


Only cesspool because KU is downstream of the crap filling the Kaw in Manhattan. Your current outrage is so litterbox typical. Only a few people actually know what is going on with the case and what actually happened to begin with, but in Manhattan, the morale outrage is nucking futz!
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Pooka Williams Arrested/Suspended - 01/11/19 01:07 PM

If anything, KU football players have been punished more than the general student populace, if the facts presented are truthful. The fake outrage of the Mayor Troll in Manhattan is just that, fake. Give the KSU guy props for trying to look away from the collapsing program in his town.
Posted by: KUHawkhead

Re: Pooka Williams Arrested/Suspended - 01/11/19 01:29 PM

As bad as we have been in football since firing the only real coach I've seen in Lawrence, I really don't care. Let's go full on Bootlegger's Boy Switzer and/or Promise Keeper McCartney. Just be out of jail by Saturday AM to get taped and ready to play.

Who cares about future sanctions? Win now....worry about tomorrow later. We need more than 8500 people (last game last season) in the stands to keep us relevant and ready to jump to another P4 conference when the Truckstop Ten folds in a couple of years.

RCJHKU!
Posted by: moose1

Re: Pooka Williams Arrested/Suspended - 01/11/19 01:41 PM

Originally Posted By: tmcats
this is all so ku. if diversion, it means he admits to committing the crime. he if refuses the diversion, i'm not sure what the next step will be. maybe they room him with fellow woman puncher, vick, then they can practice being one another's case manager. you j'hawks should at some point be nauseated by your athletic department and chancellor. what a cesspool.


Look I think you are crazy just going off the deep end, as usual There is no evidence other than her affidavit. It sounds like there were other people around. Nothing has come out from them. Like I said in this day and age the legal community in Lawrence would not sweep this under the rug if he had done those things. I know he did something, but it sounds it is a much lesser degree than what was originally reported. I know I am not going to convince you, but you know I am right.

If you think we are that low as KU fans why be on the chat boards at all? The simple answer is you are just trolling for a reaction. I am mad at myself that I have given you as much of a reaction as I have. All I can say is have a good day Timmy, and feel free to not post on these boards again, since we are such awful people. I am protecting you Timmy. You should not have to subject yourself to people such as us.
Posted by: moose1

Re: Pooka Williams Arrested/Suspended - 01/11/19 01:47 PM

Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
If anything, KU football players have been punished more than the general student populace, if the facts presented are truthful. The fake outrage of the Mayor Troll in Manhattan is just that, fake. Give the KSU guy props for trying to look away from the collapsing program in his town.


I agree with VOC. KU football has never gotten any benefit in this area. Why would they winners get the benefit. If it was KU basketball, maybe you would have a case.
Posted by: tmcats

Re: Pooka Williams Arrested/Suspended - 01/11/19 01:49 PM

all the sanctimoniousness here is as nauseating as the women-beaters. he applied for diversion to keep the criminal act off his record. he did it, boys. maybe you guys are okay with that stuff now, it happens so regularly.
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Pooka Williams Arrested/Suspended - 01/11/19 04:40 PM

Bob- it sounds like you have some woman beating experience. If you touched my wife or daughter you would experience what a beating is, friend.
Posted by: Goober

Re: Pooka Williams Arrested/Suspended - 01/11/19 04:55 PM

KSUCK played Roberson in the Fiesta Bowl. In spite of being accused of sexually assaulting a young woman game week. Get off your sanctimonious donkey before it bucks you off!
Posted by: tmcats

Re: Pooka Williams Arrested/Suspended - 01/12/19 01:38 PM

Originally Posted By: Goober
KSUCK played Roberson in the Fiesta Bowl. In spite of being accused of sexually assaulting a young woman game week. Get off your sanctimonious donkey before it bucks you off!


charges dropped in phx by phx court. you don't see the difference here? j'hawk ethics 101.
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Pooka Williams Arrested/Suspended - 01/12/19 03:01 PM

Originally Posted By: tmcats
Originally Posted By: Goober
KSUCK played Roberson in the Fiesta Bowl. In spite of being accused of sexually assaulting a young woman game week. Get off your sanctimonious donkey before it bucks you off!


charges dropped in phx by phx court. you don't see the difference here? j'hawk ethics 101.
And so will the charges against Williams, bhutthook.
Posted by: tmcats

Re: Pooka Williams Arrested/Suspended - 01/12/19 08:00 PM

Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
Originally Posted By: tmcats
Originally Posted By: Goober
KSUCK played Roberson in the Fiesta Bowl. In spite of being accused of sexually assaulting a young woman game week. Get off your sanctimonious donkey before it bucks you off!


charges dropped in phx by phx court. you don't see the difference here? j'hawk ethics 101.
And so will the charges against Williams, bhutthook.


In the context of criminal law, diversion refers to diverting a defendant out of the criminal justice system by having them complete a diversion program rather than be incarcerated or serve another alternative sentence. Criminal charges are typically dropped when a defendant successfully completes a diversion program.
Posted by: EstebanBugatti

Re: Pooka Williams Arrested/Suspended - 01/12/19 08:15 PM

This is the only KU board dumb enough to let tmcats troll it.
Posted by: moose1

Re: Pooka Williams Arrested/Suspended - 01/12/19 08:23 PM

Originally Posted By: tmcats
Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
Originally Posted By: tmcats
Originally Posted By: Goober
KSUCK played Roberson in the Fiesta Bowl. In spite of being accused of sexually assaulting a young woman game week. Get off your sanctimonious donkey before it bucks you off!


charges dropped in phx by phx court. you don't see the difference here? j'hawk ethics 101.
And so will the charges against Williams, bhutthook.


In the context of criminal law, diversion refers to diverting a defendant out of the criminal justice system by having them complete a diversion program rather than be incarcerated or serve another alternative sentence. Criminal charges are typically dropped when a defendant successfully completes a diversion program.


I feel dirty for even responding...but hear we go.

Yes we get that numbnuts. What I am saying and I think most others think this as well, is that if Pooka punched her in the gut and choked her he would NOT have received deversion. There is no way. So something happened probably a drunken argument between the two and he may have pushed her. Still a crime however not one where he needs to serve a full sentence or get kicked off the team.

I will say this if Pooka did hit the woman in the stomach and choked her then he should serve some time and be kicked off the team. From what I have heard and the actions of the Douglas County court I do not believe he did those things, but probably something to a much lesser degree.

On a side note, Timmy is a piece of trash and should be banned.
Posted by: track

Re: Pooka Williams Arrested/Suspended - 01/12/19 09:30 PM

"On a side note, Timmy is a piece of trash"

true that
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Pooka Williams Arrested/Suspended - 01/13/19 08:48 AM

Just remember (Troll b/k/a Bob), if the posters here comment on a continuing issue at KU, it has the potential of becoming a dismissed charge for a young person(s) eventually as it has for others that attended KSU previously. No difference, just move along.
Posted by: Kman_blue

Re: Pooka Williams Arrested/Suspended - 01/28/19 07:51 PM

Pooka taking full part in all team activities and workouts as of right now. Looks like he's doing what he needs to do and things look good for him going forward so far.
Posted by: Kman_blue

Re: Pooka Williams Arrested/Suspended - 02/12/19 08:51 AM

AD Long recently said that KU still considering what punishment to give Pooka and that they're waiting on the legal side to be 100% complete before doing so.

I bet he sits a couple games or so from the sounds of that.
Posted by: Josh2408

Re: Pooka Williams Arrested/Suspended - 02/12/19 09:01 AM

Is that really fair since he got a diversion though? I mean I don't think he should be suspended at all If he stays clean between now and the start of the season.
Posted by: Kman_blue

Re: Pooka Williams Arrested/Suspended - 02/12/19 09:07 AM

We'll see what coach Miles and Long do here. Pooka getting a 1 or 2 game or so suspension was just the impression I got from listening to Long's remarks. Who knows, maybe they do something else and Pooka doesn't sit any games.
Posted by: Leawood

Re: Pooka Williams Arrested/Suspended - 02/12/19 12:07 PM

In terms of punishment for Pooka, I would seek the advice of Terry Allen.
Posted by: PbBut

Re: Pooka Williams Arrested/Suspended - 02/12/19 12:07 PM

Not trying to get too distracted here, but I missed any information given out why he didn't play in the first game last fall? Was that ever released? Its just not a good look, a soph who has missed games in two seasons.
Posted by: madcapper

Re: Pooka Williams Arrested/Suspended - 02/12/19 12:23 PM

Originally Posted By: Leawood
In terms of punishment for Pooka, I would seek the advice of Terry Allen.


LOL
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Pooka Williams Arrested/Suspended - 02/12/19 12:51 PM

Originally Posted By: madcapper
Originally Posted By: Leawood
In terms of punishment for Pooka, I would seek the advice of Terry Allen.


LOL
Hold him out of the Spring game.
Posted by: Kman_blue

Re: Pooka Williams Arrested/Suspended - 02/12/19 01:07 PM

Originally Posted By: PbBut
Not trying to get too distracted here, but I missed any information given out why he didn't play in the first game last fall? Was that ever released? Its just not a good look, a soph who has missed games in two seasons.
Last I heard it was because of waiting on 1 of his HS classes to be double checked and approved again. Think it was KU compliance, not NCAA related.
Posted by: Kman_blue

Re: Pooka Williams Arrested/Suspended - 02/12/19 01:07 PM

Originally Posted By: Leawood
In terms of punishment for Pooka, I would seek the advice of Terry Allen.
Sounds good to me! haha
Posted by: appyhawk

Re: Pooka Williams Arrested/Suspended - 02/13/19 04:31 PM

Appears the Pooka situation isn't as resolved as we thought it was.

http://www2.kusports.com/news/2019/feb/1...ery-c/?football
Posted by: Kman_blue

Re: Pooka Williams Arrested/Suspended - 02/13/19 06:21 PM

Lawyers doing their jobs. Diversion deal details still in discussion. Probably won't get to a final agreement until around that court date.

Dunno the inside skinny with these particular lawyers, but 1 attorney told me he thought there's also a chance they think they can get him off without even a diversion agreement, but that was just his speculation.
Posted by: appyhawk

Re: Pooka Williams Arrested/Suspended - 02/13/19 06:34 PM

My lawyer told me "if you need a lawyer you're probably in trouble!"

Dunno if he was really a lawyer...LOL
Posted by: Kman_blue

Re: Pooka Williams Arrested/Suspended - 02/13/19 06:43 PM

LOL!
Posted by: vmlb

Re: Pooka Williams Arrested/Suspended - 03/07/19 11:42 AM

I'm selfish and hoping Pooka gets a 8 game suspension so they can redshirt him.
Posted by: beenahawk

Re: Pooka Williams Arrested/Suspended - 03/07/19 04:33 PM

Originally Posted By: vmlb
I'm selfish and hoping Pooka gets a 8 game suspension so they can redshirt him.


I'm more selfish so I hope he gets no suspension and plays 13 games this season.
Posted by: appyhawk

Re: Pooka Williams Arrested/Suspended - 03/07/19 08:47 PM

13 games this season on the level of the last 2 last season and Miles will have a Heisman candidate in his opening salvo as coach at Kansas.
Posted by: PbBut

Re: Pooka Williams Arrested/Suspended - 03/08/19 07:28 PM

What I'm hoping for is that this thread dies. I'm sick of seeing at the top of the list on this board. I'm always afraid there's more bad news, and after 10 years, who can blame me.
Posted by: appyhawk

Re: Pooka Williams Arrested/Suspended - 03/29/19 05:59 PM

So...Pooka signs diversion agreement. Charges dropped, no contact w/lady, must complete 40 hrs community service,and complete course domestic violence by Nov. He will remain suspended until those terms are complete.
Posted by: Kman_blue

Re: Pooka Williams Arrested/Suspended - 03/29/19 06:41 PM

It sounds like he'll get a 2 to 3 game suspension.

They've held him out of spring ball too.
Posted by: Kman_blue

Re: Pooka Williams Arrested/Suspended - 04/14/19 12:13 PM

Pooka was at the game in the front row watching and interacting with players. Think he'll be allowed back with team activities soon. He's been working out on his own(with guidance from support staff) outside of the official team stuff since the beginning of spring ball.
Posted by: Kman_blue

Re: Pooka Williams Arrested/Suspended - 06/29/19 05:08 PM

Hearing Pooka has officially been cleared by KU. Not sure if he has more to do on the athletics side, but I got the impression he'll be joining team summer workouts/activities very soon.