Pooka Williams

Posted by: DrGreydog

Pooka Williams - 09/08/18 12:29 PM

Is this an eligibility issue?
Posted by: track

Re: Pooka Williams - 09/08/18 02:01 PM

Originally Posted By: DrGreydog
Is this an eligibility issue?


On ESPN + pregame they said he will play today
Posted by: Jman1

Re: Pooka Williams - 09/08/18 03:24 PM

EASILY the best offensive player we have
Posted by: track

Re: Pooka Williams - 09/08/18 04:00 PM

Originally Posted By: Jman1
EASILY the best offensive player we have

He is the real deal...I give him a 5 star rating.A miniature Sayers.
Posted by: 1985hawk

Re: Pooka Williams - 09/09/18 05:01 PM

If Pooka had played in the Nichols game, I think he would have been a difference maker
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Pooka Williams - 09/09/18 09:33 PM

Originally Posted By: 1985hawk
If Pooka had played in the Nichols game, I think he would have been a difference maker
The 2-0 record is unofficial 1985
Posted by: Kman_blue

Re: Pooka Williams - 09/10/18 10:29 AM

Originally Posted By: 1985hawk
If Pooka had played in the Nichols game, I think he would have been a difference maker
No doubt he'd have won that game for us.

In my way way way too early estimation, he may be the best RB we've had since Sayers. Kid is a natural with skills I haven't seen in a RB in a long long time. IF (HUGE IF!) he keeps this up, he may be 1 of the best RB's in the country this year IMHO. He looked just like he did last year in the Louisiana HS playoffs, where he looked more like he was a video game player putting up ridiculous stats, except he did it against a D-1 opponent on Saturday.
Posted by: beenahawk

Re: Pooka Williams - 09/10/18 11:12 AM

Originally Posted By: Kman_blue
Originally Posted By: 1985hawk
If Pooka had played in the Nichols game, I think he would have been a difference maker
No doubt he'd have won that game for us.

In my way way way too early estimation, he may be the best RB we've had since Sayers. Kid is a natural with skills I haven't seen in a RB in a long long time. IF (HUGE IF!) he keeps this up, he may be 1 of the best RB's in the country this year IMHO. He looked just like he did last year in the Louisiana HS playoffs, where he looked more like he was a video game player putting up ridiculous stats, except he did it against a D-1 opponent on Saturday.


Sayers! Are you nucking futz? Right now he is in the Kerwin and Dino Bell category...he might jump to Cornish territory in a few more games, then on to Sands and Henley, then maybe to a Laverne Smith or Del Williams mode.....but he is a long, long, long way from being mentioned in the same sentence as Sayers!
Posted by: Kirk

Re: Pooka Williams - 09/10/18 11:25 AM

^ I was thinking the same thing beenahawk, but didn't say it because people would think I was a poo-poo head.

(Hyperbole is sorta the norm on message boards and social media.)
Posted by: Kman_blue

Re: Pooka Williams - 09/10/18 11:40 AM

Originally Posted By: beenahawk
Sayers! Are you nucking futz? Right now he is in the Kerwin and Dino Bell category...he might jump to Cornish territory in a few more games, then on to Sands and Henley, then maybe to a Laverne Smith or Del Williams mode.....but he is a long, long, long way from being mentioned in the same sentence as Sayers!
I said SINCE Sayers, not that he was as good as Sayers. Big difference.

I also tried to make it obvious I was giving a very VERY (that enough emphasis to make it clear? LOL) early potential assessment of his abilities by repeating "way" 3 times!

All very good RB's you brought up and all legitimate points about them potentially being equal or better than Pooka at this point in time. That's comparing their careers to Pooka's 1 game so far which is NOT what I was doing. I was giving my very early preliminary eyeball test evaluation of what kinds of abilities I saw Pooka show on Saturday and his potential.

Oh, and I think Kerwin Bell was better than Dino. Also think Cornish was better than Henley and maybe Sands. Think you're forgetting about Riggins too. He was right up there with Laverne. Then again, these opinions are in large part from me watching them on video rather than live at the stadium because I wasn't old enough or even alive for some to do that.
Posted by: track

Re: Pooka Williams - 09/10/18 11:49 AM

Originally Posted By: Kman_blue
Originally Posted By: beenahawk
Sayers! Are you nucking futz? Right now he is in the Kerwin and Dino Bell category...he might jump to Cornish territory in a few more games, then on to Sands and Henley, then maybe to a Laverne Smith or Del Williams mode.....but he is a long, long, long way from being mentioned in the same sentence as Sayers!
I said SINCE Sayers, not that he was as good as Sayers. Big difference.

I also tried to make it obvious I was giving a very VERY (that enough emphasis to make it clear? LOL) early potential assessment of his abilities by repeating "way" 3 times!

All very good RB's you brought up and all legitimate points about them potentially being equal or better than Pooka at this point in time. That's comparing their careers to Pooka's 1 game so far which is NOT what I was doing. I was giving my very early preliminary eyeball test evaluation of what kinds of abilities I saw Pooka show on Saturday and his potential.

Oh, and I think Kerwin Bell was better than Dino. Also think Cornish was better than Henley and maybe Sands. Think you're forgetting about Riggins too. He was right up there with Laverne. Then again, these opinions are in large part from me watching them on video rather than live at the stadium because I wasn't old enough or even alive for some to do that.

Pooka has that Sayers ability to cut on a dime... give the tackler a leg and take it away. Sayers averaged 7 yards a carry his first year. Pooka averaged 8.9 yesterday. Clearly pooka is no gale Sayers based on Sayers hall of fame status. Sayers was bigger and probably faster but pooka’s elusiveness can still make us old timers remember the great gale Sayers and that’s a good thing for ku football. Gale Sayers was the prettiest runner I have ever seen.
Posted by: appyhawk

Re: Pooka Williams - 09/10/18 02:37 PM

Pooka BETTER be good. REALLY good. It's the only way he has a chance to stay healthy.
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Pooka Williams - 09/10/18 02:49 PM

Originally Posted By: appyhawk
Pooka BETTER be good. REALLY good. It's the only way he has a chance to stay healthy.
If you remember, the player had problems staying on the field so far. Nothing wrong with his athletics, but is he a head case brewing?
Posted by: Goober

Re: Pooka Williams - 09/10/18 10:12 PM

Originally Posted By: beenahawk
Originally Posted By: Kman_blue
Originally Posted By: 1985hawk
If Pooka had played in the Nichols game, I think he would have been a difference maker
No doubt he'd have won that game for us.

In my way way way too early estimation, he may be the best RB we've had since Sayers. Kid is a natural with skills I haven't seen in a RB in a long long time. IF (HUGE IF!) he keeps this up, he may be 1 of the best RB's in the country this year IMHO. He looked just like he did last year in the Louisiana HS playoffs, where he looked more like he was a video game player putting up ridiculous stats, except he did it against a D-1 opponent on Saturday.


Sayers! Are you nucking futz? Right now he is in the Kerwin and Dino Bell category...he might jump to Cornish territory in a few more games, then on to Sands and Henley, then maybe to a Laverne Smith or Del Williams mode.....but he is a long, long, long way from being mentioned in the same sentence as Sayers!


I didn't see Sayers in person. I did watch him on black and white TV though. I am old enough to have watched all the others mentioned. Numerous times. I'll take the Diesel.
Just one mans opinion.
I was fortunate enough to watch Bobby Douglass, David Jaynes, Frank Suerer(SP), Todd Reesing. Reesing and Douglass had the best teams around them. Both so much fun to watch. One a video game like QB. The other a battering ram.
Posted by: prairiehawk

Re: Pooka Williams - 09/11/18 12:24 AM

A little off the subject, but does anyone know anything about TE James Sosinski? Is he still playing?
Posted by: Kman_blue

Re: Pooka Williams - 09/11/18 08:45 AM

Originally Posted By: prairiehawk
A little off the subject, but does anyone know anything about TE James Sosinski? Is he still playing?
Yes. He played in both games so far, but didn't record a stat.
Posted by: Kman_blue

Re: Pooka Williams - 09/11/18 08:47 AM

Originally Posted By: Goober
I didn't see Sayers in person. I did watch him on black and white TV though. I am old enough to have watched all the others mentioned. Numerous times. I'll take the Diesel.
Just one mans opinion.
I was fortunate enough to watch Bobby Douglass, David Jaynes, Frank Suerer(SP), Todd Reesing. Reesing and Douglass had the best teams around them. Both so much fun to watch. One a video game like QB. The other a battering ram.
How does Junior stack up in your opinion?
Posted by: moose1

Re: Pooka Williams - 09/11/18 08:59 AM

Maybe we should dial it back on Pooka. I am as excited for him as anyone, but it was one game against CMU. Let's not put too much on him right now. I think he is going to be a fine player, but let him become him instead of the next Sayers. I am just excited that he is on KU, and to see where this kid goes from here the rest of the year.
Posted by: beenahawk

Re: Pooka Williams - 09/11/18 11:27 AM

Originally Posted By: Kman_blue
Originally Posted By: Goober
I didn't see Sayers in person. I did watch him on black and white TV though. I am old enough to have watched all the others mentioned. Numerous times. I'll take the Diesel.
Just one mans opinion.
I was fortunate enough to watch Bobby Douglass, David Jaynes, Frank Suerer(SP), Todd Reesing. Reesing and Douglass had the best teams around them. Both so much fun to watch. One a video game like QB. The other a battering ram.
How does Junior stack up in your opinion?


Junior (the eldest) wasn't nearly as big or quite as fast as Big John, but he was a solid running back. People forget just how fast John was, especially as a younger man in college. Sub 10 second 100 yard dash speed. Against the litterbox, the year they opened the hole in the ground, John broke a huge run and the only guy to catch him was future all pro CB Clarence Scott...and that was only because he had the angle.

One of the best running back games I ever saw was John against OU Heisman winner Steve Owens in 1970- (Both were Seniors) When KU had the ball, the BLUE 32 with white numbers would run into the white defense for a gain of 5....rarely tackled, just stopped forward progress....when OU had the ball the white "32" with red numerals ran into a see of blue and the same thing transpired....two unreal power backs on the same field at the same time.

I think Billy might have had a future had he not got hurt...kind of like the Zook brothers (John, Dean and Dale). Dale might have been the best of the bunch too, but injuries stopped him like they did Billy Riggo.
Posted by: track

Re: Pooka Williams - 09/11/18 11:36 AM

Originally Posted By: beenahawk
Originally Posted By: Kman_blue
Originally Posted By: Goober
I didn't see Sayers in person. I did watch him on black and white TV though. I am old enough to have watched all the others mentioned. Numerous times. I'll take the Diesel.
Just one mans opinion.
I was fortunate enough to watch Bobby Douglass, David Jaynes, Frank Suerer(SP), Todd Reesing. Reesing and Douglass had the best teams around them. Both so much fun to watch. One a video game like QB. The other a battering ram.
How does Junior stack up in your opinion?


Junior (the eldest) wasn't nearly as big or quite as fast as Big John, but he was a solid running back. People forget just how fast John was, especially as a younger man in college. Sub 10 second 100 yard dash speed. Against the litterbox, the year they opened the hole in the ground, John broke a huge run and the only guy to catch him was future all pro CB Clarence Scott...and that was only because he had the angle.

One of the best running back games I ever saw was John against OU Heisman winner Steve Owens in 1970- (Both were Seniors) When KU had the ball, the BLUE 32 with white numbers would run into the white defense for a gain of 5....rarely tackled, just stopped forward progress....when OU had the ball the white "32" with red numerals ran into a see of blue and the same thing transpired....two unreal power backs on the same field at the same time.

I think Billy might have had a future had he not got hurt...kind of like the Zook brothers (John, Dean and Dale). Dale might have been the best of the bunch too, but injuries stopped him like they did Billy Riggo.

I stood along the rail and watched riggo run the 100 at the KU relays his senior year in high school. He looked like a monster compared to the other runners. I wouldn’t have wanted to try and tackle him.
Posted by: Kirk

Re: Pooka Williams - 09/11/18 12:39 PM

Originally Posted By: Goober
Originally Posted By: beenahawk
Originally Posted By: Kman_blue
Originally Posted By: 1985hawk
If Pooka had played in the Nichols game, I think he would have been a difference maker
No doubt he'd have won that game for us.

In my way way way too early estimation, he may be the best RB we've had since Sayers. Kid is a natural with skills I haven't seen in a RB in a long long time. IF (HUGE IF!) he keeps this up, he may be 1 of the best RB's in the country this year IMHO. He looked just like he did last year in the Louisiana HS playoffs, where he looked more like he was a video game player putting up ridiculous stats, except he did it against a D-1 opponent on Saturday.


Sayers! Are you nucking futz? Right now he is in the Kerwin and Dino Bell category...he might jump to Cornish territory in a few more games, then on to Sands and Henley, then maybe to a Laverne Smith or Del Williams mode.....but he is a long, long, long way from being mentioned in the same sentence as Sayers!


I didn't see Sayers in person. I did watch him on black and white TV though. I am old enough to have watched all the others mentioned. Numerous times. I'll take the Diesel.
Just one mans opinion.
I was fortunate enough to watch Bobby Douglass, David Jaynes, Frank Suerer(SP), Todd Reesing. Reesing and Douglass had the best teams around them. Both so much fun to watch. One a video game like QB. The other a battering ram.


Great description.

And I agree about the Diesel. Talk about a valuable player.
Posted by: Kman_blue

Re: Pooka Williams - 09/11/18 12:40 PM

Originally Posted By: beenahawk
Junior (the eldest) wasn't nearly as big or quite as fast as Big John, but he was a solid running back. People forget just how fast John was, especially as a younger man in college. Sub 10 second 100 yard dash speed. Against the litterbox, the year they opened the hole in the ground, John broke a huge run and the only guy to catch him was future all pro CB Clarence Scott...and that was only because he had the angle.

One of the best running back games I ever saw was John against OU Heisman winner Steve Owens in 1970- (Both were Seniors) When KU had the ball, the BLUE 32 with white numbers would run into the white defense for a gain of 5....rarely tackled, just stopped forward progress....when OU had the ball the white "32" with red numerals ran into a see of blue and the same thing transpired....two unreal power backs on the same field at the same time.

I think Billy might have had a future had he not got hurt...kind of like the Zook brothers (John, Dean and Dale). Dale might have been the best of the bunch too, but injuries stopped him like they did Billy Riggo.
AWESOME STUFF Beenahawk!

Truly invaluable perspective! Thanks for sharing.

You can't read or learn this kind of stuff from old videos and books.
Posted by: Kman_blue

Re: Pooka Williams - 09/11/18 12:45 PM

Originally Posted By: track
I stood along the rail and watched riggo run the 100 at the KU relays his senior year in high school. He looked like a monster compared to the other runners. I wouldn’t have wanted to try and tackle him.
Keep the first hand perspectives coming!

Thanks for sharing track!

My father watched him at the state championships run (my dad was competing in a couple field events, yeah I'm bragging on my pops some here! LOL) and his description of Riggo running the 100 was almost verbatim to yours. My dad is bigger than Riggo and he still said he looked like a monster running down the track to him.
Posted by: Topcitykid10

Re: Pooka Williams - 09/11/18 05:12 PM

From Benton Smith today at Beaty’s presser:

“Beaty on Pooka Williams' availability for rest of season: Will not say whether he is available beyond this week.
Said it was an eligibility issue that kept him out Week 1.
#KUfball“

WTF!!?
Posted by: track

Re: Pooka Williams - 09/11/18 05:36 PM

Originally Posted By: Kman_blue
Originally Posted By: track
I stood along the rail and watched riggo run the 100 at the KU relays his senior year in high school. He looked like a monster compared to the other runners. I wouldn’t have wanted to try and tackle him.
Keep the first hand perspectives coming!

Thanks for sharing track!

My father watched him at the state championships run (my dad was competing in a couple field events, yeah I'm bragging on my pops some here! LOL) and his description of Riggo running the 100 was almost verbatim to yours. My dad is bigger than Riggo and he still said he looked like a monster running down the track to him.
Originally Posted By: Kman_blue
Originally Posted By: track
I stood along the rail and watched riggo run the 100 at the KU relays his senior year in high school. He looked like a monster compared to the other runners. I wouldn’t have wanted to try and tackle him.
Keep the first hand perspectives coming!

Thanks for sharing track!

My father watched him at the state championships run (my dad was competing in a couple field events, yeah I'm bragging on my pops some here! LOL) and his description of Riggo running the 100 was almost verbatim to yours. My dad is bigger than Riggo and he still said he looked like a monster running down the track to him.
Originally Posted By: Kman_blue
Originally Posted By: track
I stood along the rail and watched riggo run the 100 at the KU relays his senior year in high school. He looked like a monster compared to the other runners. I wouldn’t have wanted to try and tackle him.
Keep the first hand perspectives coming!

Thanks for sharing track!

My father watched him at the state championships run (my dad was competing in a couple field events, yeah I'm bragging on my pops some here! LOL) and his description of Riggo running the 100 was almost verbatim to yours. My dad is bigger than Riggo and he still said he looked like a monster running down the track to him.

Ask your dad if he ever heard of Levi Lee. He was a shorter version of John who I played against.
So much for big schools over little schools. I am a year older than John. I was the starting middle linebacker and tailback for Topeka high. ...6A. Our class had 810 kids... no doubt bigger than centralias entire school ... 3A...but we didn’t have anyone like the Riggin boys. I was the same size as John at 6’2” 210. ... but no way was I as fast or a natural like he was. I saw him out a lot at clubs after college.... he was a real wild man and a real character.
Posted by: 1985hawk

Re: Pooka Williams - 09/11/18 05:57 PM

My Dad officiated a track event that Riggins ran in.. He said he looked like a freight train coming down the track
Posted by: track

Re: Pooka Williams - 09/11/18 06:00 PM

Originally Posted By: 1985hawk
My Dad officiated a track event that Riggins ran in.. He said he looked like a freight train coming down the track

That’s a great description
Posted by: prairiehawk

Re: Pooka Williams - 09/11/18 08:53 PM

Kman- Thanks for the update on the TE, Sosinski. Unforunately, I had to miss the first two games, but hopefully will be at or watch the TV for the rest of the games. Really thought the big TE would have a be a major factor in the offense this year. Oh well, the season is still young. He seemed like a natural for that position, especially with great hands, decent speed, and excellent size.
Posted by: Goober

Re: Pooka Williams - 09/11/18 10:29 PM

Billy was really good. It just seemed like he was always fighting the injury bug. John was just a freak of nature.
Posted by: Josh2408

Re: Pooka Williams - 09/12/18 12:09 AM

http://m.kusports.com/news/2018/sep/11/david-beaty-maintains-vague-stance-regarding-pooka/
Posted by: Tetonhawk

Re: Pooka Williams - 09/12/18 04:18 AM

I saw Sayers beat OU nearly single handed. But, the best KU backfield was John Hadl, Curtis McClinton, Doyle Schick & Bert Coan. Simply awesome. Too bad they didn't have a great O-line.
Posted by: Tetonhawk

Re: Pooka Williams - 09/12/18 04:31 AM

Originally Posted By: Tetonhawk
I saw Sayers beat OU nearly single handed. But, the best KU backfield was John Hadl, Curtis McClinton, Doyle Schick & Bert Coan. Simply awesome. Too bad they didn't have a great O-line.

Only time I know of that an entire backfield (4) was drafted.
Posted by: beenahawk

Re: Pooka Williams - 09/12/18 08:28 AM

Originally Posted By: Tetonhawk
Originally Posted By: Tetonhawk
I saw Sayers beat OU nearly single handed. But, the best KU backfield was John Hadl, Curtis McClinton, Doyle Schick & Bert Coan. Simply awesome. Too bad they didn't have a great O-line.

Only time I know of that an entire backfield (4) was drafted.


Smaller backfield, but Jaynes, Del Williams and Robert Miller all went in the NFL draft. So did two back up freshmen in Laverne Smith and Billy Campfield (1973).
Posted by: Kman_blue

Re: Pooka Williams - 10/02/18 02:30 AM

Pooka is the 1st player in NCAA FBS history, or at least since they've been keeping track of this stat, to have TD runs of 40 yards or greater in his first 4 games.

He also has more rushing yards in his first 4 games than anyone else in KU history had in their first 4 games.

OK, so I "stole" this info from Hawk Talk last night! LOL

Still too early to make a definite determination, but I stand by my initial evaluation of his talents/career potential.

Extremely impressive stuff he's doing, especially considering Okie lite was keying off of him on just about every play and he still busted that 60 yarder on them.
Posted by: Kirk

Re: Pooka Williams - 10/02/18 11:22 AM

Ku should probably market Pooka a little more to help drive attendance. Maybe they already are, I don't know. Or maybe the NCAA is strict on that.

I mean, I'm sure fans came just to see Gale Sayers.