New Stadium Video

Posted by: dgless21

New Stadium Video - 09/22/17 08:47 PM

https://www.facebook.com/KansasFootball/videos/10155126259110547/
Posted by: dgless21

Re: New Stadium Video - 09/22/17 08:51 PM

http://kuathletics.com/news/2017/9/21/la...n-football.aspx

Article.
Posted by: EstebanBugatti

Re: New Stadium Video - 09/22/17 09:12 PM

Too bad it'll never actually happen.
Posted by: casey

Re: New Stadium Video - 09/22/17 09:56 PM

That is one fancy dumpster.
Posted by: 58hawk

Re: New Stadium Video - 09/22/17 10:16 PM

Doesn't sound like he is going to fire Zenger anytime soon.
Posted by: PHOGUSHER

Re: New Stadium Video - 09/22/17 10:19 PM

Not impressed..
Posted by: EstebanBugatti

Re: New Stadium Video - 09/22/17 10:35 PM

Originally Posted By: 58hawk
Doesn't sound like he is going to fire Zenger anytime soon.


At least the basketbal program can just go Independent when it all comes crashing down.
Posted by: PHOGUSHER

Re: New Stadium Video - 09/22/17 10:46 PM

Ok Jimbo.
Posted by: PbBut

Re: New Stadium Video - 09/23/17 12:43 AM

The video was Interesting...but what were all those people doing there?
Posted by: dgless21

Re: New Stadium Video - 09/23/17 07:21 AM

Taylor Swift concert.
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: New Stadium Video - 09/23/17 08:01 AM

Waiting for the banner to be flown over the place. gofundme anti-Zenger.
Posted by: moose1

Re: New Stadium Video - 09/23/17 08:23 AM

Originally Posted By: PbBut
The video was Interesting...but what were all those people doing there?


Now that is funny! That had me laughing my butt off.
Posted by: moose1

Re: New Stadium Video - 09/23/17 08:27 AM

Looking at the rendering it looks like the the position of the East and West stands appear to be in the same. The position to the field and the angle it goes back looks to be the same, so I wonder if they are largely going to keep those intact. Overall the stadium looks cool, especially the North endzone seating. I was hoping to see the East and West stands closer to the field. As I said their positioning appears to be the same.

The other thing I noticed in the article they mentioned the 50 million dollar donor, but nothing about where they stand in total right now. Even if they have the 150 million, another 200 million will not be easy to get with the state of KU football.
Posted by: moose1

Re: New Stadium Video - 09/23/17 08:36 AM

Never mind on the East and West stands. After looking at it further it looks like there will be two levels, so clearly different.
Posted by: dgless21

Re: New Stadium Video - 09/23/17 08:41 AM

Supposedly we agreed to a "tweaked" 12 (or 14) year, $191M deal with Adidas and that's going to help fund the renovations.

Bottom of the article (or just ctrl+f for adidas).

http://www2.kusports.com/news/2017/sep/22/memorial-stadium-renovation-plans-unveiled-campaig/
Posted by: dgless21

Re: New Stadium Video - 09/23/17 08:42 AM

Originally Posted By: moose1
Never mind on the East and West stands. After looking at it further it looks like there will be two levels, so clearly different.

Plus there's a picture of the west side exterior, and it's quite different also.
Posted by: JimWest

Re: New Stadium Video - 09/23/17 10:56 PM

They need to tear the whole thing down and start over. This rendering looks terrible.
Posted by: PHOGUSHER

Re: New Stadium Video - 09/24/17 10:09 AM

I bet if it was all pink and neon with nothing but transgender bathrooms with glory holes old Jimbo would like it just fine and dandy...like cotton candy.
Posted by: JimWest

Re: New Stadium Video - 09/24/17 12:55 PM

Originally Posted By: PHOGUSHER
I bet if it was all pink and neon with nothing but transgender bathrooms with glory holes old Jimbo would like it just fine and dandy...like cotton candy.


Pink & neon would clash a lot less than this abomination. Somewhere around 2010 the university decided that EVERYTHING MUST BE RED AND BLUE AND ALL RED AND BLUE or no one will know it is KU. It looks ridiculous and reeks of something that a no-class ruralite that studied "marketing" at a state school would come up with.
Posted by: INation

Re: New Stadium Video - 09/24/17 02:27 PM

How many seats will this hold?
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: New Stadium Video - 09/25/17 05:53 AM

Originally Posted By: INation
How many seats will this hold?
IN - Don't you mean how many fans will it hold (for the Taylor Swift concert)?
Posted by: jayhawk_4_life2

Re: New Stadium Video - 09/26/17 01:10 PM

Man, I'm disgusted with all the losing just as much as every one else but man you guys are NEGATIVE. Maybe I'm a ruralite or have no taste, but I thought it looked pretty cool.
Posted by: track

Re: New Stadium Video - 09/26/17 01:20 PM

Originally Posted By: jayhawk_4_life2
Man, I'm disgusted with all the losing just as much as every one else but man you guys are NEGATIVE. Maybe I'm a ruralite or have no taste, but I thought it looked pretty cool.

I agree
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: New Stadium Video - 09/26/17 01:22 PM

Originally Posted By: jayhawk_4_life2
Man, I'm disgusted with all the losing just as much as every one else but man you guys are NEGATIVE. Maybe I'm a ruralite or have no taste, but I thought it looked pretty cool.
I don't look at my posts as negative. Rather they are based on realism about the program, lack of. BTW, if the stadium looks anything like the Gridiron Club, I will be happy!!
Posted by: casey

Re: New Stadium Video - 09/26/17 02:11 PM

Would be interesting to see a mock-up of what could be built by the SLT for the same amount of money. That location would be easier to reach than campus for the numerous KC alums.

Football on campus has proven to not be a self sustaining event. I don't get why Booth is tethered to Memorial.
Posted by: dgless21

Re: New Stadium Video - 09/26/17 02:31 PM

Hell, maybe we should build it in Texas because of the alums and recruits down there.
Posted by: casey

Re: New Stadium Video - 09/26/17 02:34 PM

Originally Posted By: dgless21
Hell, maybe we should build it in Texas because of the alums and recruits down there.


You're better than this.
Posted by: moose1

Re: New Stadium Video - 09/26/17 02:39 PM

Originally Posted By: casey
Would be interesting to see a mock-up of what could be built by the SLT for the same amount of money. That location would be easier to reach than campus for the numerous KC alums.

Football on campus has proven to not be a self sustaining event. I don't get why Booth is tethered to Memorial.


He is tethered to it like pretty much all alumni are. There is a sentimental feeling towards having the stadium at the base of the hill. Plus it is just a great setting for a football stadium. It would be easier to build somewhere else, but it would not be as good of a location, plus they may have a harder time raising funds for it as well.
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: New Stadium Video - 09/26/17 02:39 PM

Originally Posted By: casey
Originally Posted By: dgless21
Hell, maybe we should build it in Texas because of the alums and recruits down there.


You're better than this.
Do better, dgless.
Posted by: casey

Re: New Stadium Video - 09/26/17 02:47 PM

Originally Posted By: moose1
Originally Posted By: casey
Would be interesting to see a mock-up of what could be built by the SLT for the same amount of money. That location would be easier to reach than campus for the numerous KC alums.

Football on campus has proven to not be a self sustaining event. I don't get why Booth is tethered to Memorial.


He is tethered to it like pretty much all alumni are. There is a sentimental feeling towards having the stadium at the base of the hill. Plus it is just a great setting for a football stadium. It would be easier to build somewhere else, but it would not be as good of a location, plus they may have a harder time raising funds for it as well.


Attendance for WVU was under 24,000. The campus is very nice, but as Football Guy Zenger should recognize by now, it's not the draw KAI thinks it is.
Posted by: Kman_blue

Re: New Stadium Video - 09/26/17 05:31 PM

Win a few more games and attendance will shoot right back up.

Also, you can't replicate the truly unique setting of our stadium. That in and of itself is enough to keep it where it is, but add on the tradition and any sentimental attachments alumni have and it's not going anywhere else. I've been to several other stadiums around the country and none have a setting anything like KU's and that's my honest objective opinion. Some have cool uniqueness of their own, but not one has a similar setting as KU's does. I think that's worth keeping.
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: New Stadium Video - 09/26/17 05:43 PM

3-25 is not a horse collar any HC in the P5 arena should have. Let alone a HS HC who may stagger to 32 losses by the end of this season. The new and improved stadium deserves an experienced HC. But I'm sure he can use Weis to his advantage.
Posted by: 58hawk

Re: New Stadium Video - 09/26/17 06:46 PM

Originally Posted By: moose1
Originally Posted By: casey
Would be interesting to see a mock-up of what could be built by the SLT for the same amount of money. That location would be easier to reach than campus for the numerous KC alums.

Football on campus has proven to not be a self sustaining event. I don't get why Booth is tethered to Memorial.


He is tethered to it like pretty much all alumni are. There is a sentimental feeling towards having the stadium at the base of the hill. Plus it is just a great setting for a football stadium. It would be easier to build somewhere else, but it would not be as good of a location, plus they may have a harder time raising funds for it as well.
We could put it in a cow pasture like they did at K-Suck.
Posted by: casey

Re: New Stadium Video - 09/26/17 11:19 PM

Originally Posted By: Kman_blue
Win a few more games and attendance will shoot right back up.

Also, you can't replicate the truly unique setting of our stadium. That in and of itself is enough to keep it where it is, but add on the tradition and any sentimental attachments alumni have and it's not going anywhere else. I've been to several other stadiums around the country and none have a setting anything like KU's and that's my honest objective opinion. Some have cool uniqueness of their own, but not one has a similar setting as KU's does. I think that's worth keeping.


Iowa State's stadium is on the southern edge of Ames, located off campus but an easy 40 minute highway drive straight north from Des Moines.

ISU's last home game last season was against WVU. ISU was 3-8 going in, the game was completely meaningless. Attendance was 51,300.

Which football program is in better shape?
Posted by: moose1

Re: New Stadium Video - 09/27/17 12:16 AM

Really we are talking about location and attendance? How dumb is that. There is one thing that has an affect on attendance. It is winning and losing. Win enough games and that place is full.

It is the same for any arena. Hell if KU basketball lost enough games Allen would stop selling out.
Posted by: Kman_blue

Re: New Stadium Video - 09/27/17 01:42 AM

Originally Posted By: casey
Iowa State's stadium is on the southern edge of Ames, located off campus but an easy 40 minute highway drive straight north from Des Moines.

ISU's last home game last season was against WVU. ISU was 3-8 going in, the game was completely meaningless. Attendance was 51,300.

Which football program is in better shape?
No it's not. ISU's stadium is on their campus just north of their vet school hence the sometime smell around there and just south of a bunch of ISU parking lots and their alumni association building. Now, I've been told the trailer park just to the SE of their stadium isn't an "official" part of their campus though.

Memorial is about a 30 to 40 minute drive from the entire KS side of KC and less than an hour from most all of the metro on both sides of the state line. Even if we didn't have the ideal site already, there's really no need to move it to be closer to a major population area.

Also, there's nothing else to do in Iowa. No pro teams and nothing much at all going on, especially in the fall, so people go to either ISU or Iowa games. Not trying to knock Iowa, but it's the truth. I give credit to them that they seem to show up no matter how crappy they're doing, but when it's just about the only thing to do in the state on a Saturday afternoon in the fall, a lot of people up there choose to do it.
Posted by: Kman_blue

Re: New Stadium Video - 09/27/17 01:45 AM

Originally Posted By: moose1
Really we are talking about location and attendance? How dumb is that. There is one thing that has an affect on attendance. It is winning and losing. Win enough games and that place is full.

It is the same for any arena. Hell if KU basketball lost enough games Allen would stop selling out.
I'm just old enough to remember the last years of Ted Owens as a kid and you could walk up right before tip-off and buy a ticket for the game cheap. Empty seats all over Allen Fieldhouse back then.
Posted by: casey

Re: New Stadium Video - 09/27/17 07:17 AM

Originally Posted By: moose1
Really we are talking about location and attendance? How dumb is that. There is one thing that has an affect on attendance. It is winning and losing. Win enough games and that place is full.

It is the same for any arena. Hell if KU basketball lost enough games Allen would stop selling out.


Reread the part about ISU being 3-8.
Posted by: casey

Re: New Stadium Video - 09/27/17 07:20 AM

Originally Posted By: Kman_blue
Originally Posted By: casey
Iowa State's stadium is on the southern edge of Ames, located off campus but an easy 40 minute highway drive straight north from Des Moines.

ISU's last home game last season was against WVU. ISU was 3-8 going in, the game was completely meaningless. Attendance was 51,300.

Which football program is in better shape?
No it's not. ISU's stadium is on their campus just north of their vet school hence the sometime smell around there and just south of a bunch of ISU parking lots and their alumni association building. Now, I've been told the trailer park just to the SE of their stadium isn't an "official" part of their campus though.

Memorial is about a 30 to 40 minute drive from the entire KS side of KC and less than an hour from most all of the metro on both sides of the state line. Even if we didn't have the ideal site already, there's really no need to move it to be closer to a major population area.

Also, there's nothing else to do in Iowa. No pro teams and nothing much at all going on, especially in the fall, so people go to either ISU or Iowa games. Not trying to knock Iowa, but it's the truth. I give credit to them that they seem to show up no matter how crappy they're doing, but when it's just about the only thing to do in the state on a Saturday afternoon in the fall, a lot of people up there choose to do it.


Your def of on-campus and mine differ.

Lawrence is not exactly South Beach. There isn't a Lil Yachty concert every weekend.
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: New Stadium Video - 09/27/17 10:18 AM

Am I the only one here who doesn't know of Lil Yachty?
Posted by: Kman_blue

Re: New Stadium Video - 09/27/17 02:10 PM

Originally Posted By: casey
Your def of on-campus and mine differ.

Lawrence is not exactly South Beach. There isn't a Lil Yachty concert every weekend.
My definition is well, actually on campus versus not on campus. Their campus extends even further south than their stadium and it's not disjunct from the rest of their campus either. It's not in the heart of their campus, but it's still within the contiguous confines of their campus.

There's a lot more going on in the KC area and Lawrence than there is in Des Moines and Ames. There are Royals games, Sporting KC games, and Chiefs games to attend. There are no such pro teams in the state of Iowa that people could put their attendance efforts into instead of either UI or ISU games.

You don't have to be South Beach to have more going on than Ames. LOL
Posted by: JimWest

Re: New Stadium Video - 09/27/17 05:16 PM

ITT: We see someone honestly arguing that Kansas has more to offer than Iowa as if that is meaningful.
Posted by: Kman_blue

Re: New Stadium Video - 09/28/17 01:33 AM

Not Kansas, the Lawrence and KC areas compared to not Iowa, but rather the Ames and Des Moines area.

KC has 3 major pro sports teams and the state of Iowa has NONE. If you're a sports fan inclined to attend games in person and 1 team is doing crappy it's a lot easier to switch it up to another team (i.e. any of the 3 KC pro teams) rather than make the effort to attend the game of the team that's doing crappy. When you've got no other option, you stick it out with the crappy team hoping for the best.

That's the biggest difference in a nut shell between the situation KU football is in versus the situation ISU is in. KU has also been slightly crappier over the past few years than ISU which doesn't help.

Also, how many times have you been up to Ames or Des Moines and tried to find something entertaining or fun to do versus doing the same in Lawrence or KC?

I've had to be up there more times than I'd like and there's no contest. There's a lot more options generally in KC and Lawrence than there is in Ames and Des Moines.

And on a side note, just curious as you're fond of calling some other posters "ruralites", what do you think yourself to be in contrast?
Posted by: John_Brown

Re: New Stadium Video - 09/28/17 09:17 AM

Proof is in the pudding. In 1962, KU/OU/CU/UNL's stadiums were all about the same size situated in towns relatively close to their state's major metropolitan area. Since the AFL's KC Chiefs/Broncos move to KC/Denver and 50 years later, UNL/OU's stadiums have almost doubled in size relative to Memorial/Folsom. Is this a coincidence?

Rock Chalk Jayhawk, Beat Mizzou
Posted by: JimWest

Re: New Stadium Video - 09/28/17 09:34 AM

Originally Posted By: Kman_blue


Also, how many times have you been up to Ames or Des Moines and tried to find something entertaining or fun to do versus doing the same in Lawrence or KC?



Uh, I've got a newsflash for you. No one goes to Iowa for leisure. No one goes to Kansas for leisure either. There is nothing fun to do in any of the cities you mentioned except drinking lite beer at the local dive bars with a bunch of gave-up-on-life redneck yocals.

Iowa people have Chicago in close proximity so that's where they go. Kansas people have nothing so they make do with Kansas City. So, claiming Kansas is somehow markedly better than Iowa is ridiculous. Kansas might be slightly better but not enough to pay any attention to.
Posted by: John_Brown

Re: New Stadium Video - 09/28/17 12:44 PM


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Uh, I've got a newsflash for you. No one goes to Iowa for leisure. No one goes to Kansas for leisure either. There is nothing fun to do in any of the cities you mentioned except drinking lite beer at the local dive bars with a bunch of gave-up-on-life redneck yocals.

Iowa people have Chicago in close proximity so that's where they go. Kansas people have nothing so they make do with Kansas City. So, claiming Kansas is somehow markedly better than Iowa is ridiculous. Kansas might be slightly better but not enough to pay any attention to.


Kind of a myopic view that Chicagoland is the end all, be all of attractions. The Navy Pier is a poor man's Disneyland while the Chicago waterfront isn't really that different from Table Rock if you replace the drunk rednecks in 30' pontoon boats w/ drunk lawyers in 30' sailboats. The Chicago skyline, though, is cool.

Kansans don't have to 'make do' w/ KC. As a lifelong Kansan, I sometimes 'make do' w/ KC, but I'll also 'make do' w/ an annual ski trip down to NewMexico and usually 'make do' w/ 1 or 2 hiking trips out in Colorado every summer. When I'm 'making do' sitting w/ the family up at the resort in Breckenridge having a snort, I often think to myself how dam unfortunate it is that I can't be an Iowan at the Navy Pier in Chicago.

Rock Chalk Jayhawk, Beat Mizzou

Posted by: JimWest

Re: New Stadium Video - 09/28/17 01:43 PM

Of course a ruralite like yourself would think that Navy Pier is an attraction. You're probably the type of person that collects Hard Rock Cafe t-shirts too so you have "evidence" of how well travelled you are.
Posted by: Kman_blue

Re: New Stadium Video - 09/28/17 01:54 PM

Originally Posted By: JimWest
Originally Posted By: Kman_blue
Also, how many times have you been up to Ames or Des Moines and tried to find something entertaining or fun to do versus doing the same in Lawrence or KC?


Uh, I've got a newsflash for you. No one goes to Iowa for leisure. No one goes to Kansas for leisure either. There is nothing fun to do in any of the cities you mentioned except drinking lite beer at the local dive bars with a bunch of gave-up-on-life redneck yocals.

Iowa people have Chicago in close proximity so that's where they go. Kansas people have nothing so they make do with Kansas City. So, claiming Kansas is somehow markedly better than Iowa is ridiculous. Kansas might be slightly better but not enough to pay any attention to.
You've missed the point.

The point is, if you live in those areas, not travel to those areas for "leisure", you've got plenty of other options to put your sports fan energies into in the KC and Lawrence areas than you do in the Des Moines and Ames areas. You've even got more non-sports options as well.

I only asked if you'd been to those areas for whatever reasons (mine were mostly business) and had to try and find something to do for entertainment you'd quickly realize how much more limited your options are up in Des Moines and Ames compared to KC and Lawrence.

You also keep missing the entire point of the discussion by trying to widen things out to the entire states of Iowa and Kansas. It's about people who live within reasonable proximity (1 hour or so) of ISU's stadium compared to KU's stadium.

As for people in Iowa having Chicago, that's ridiculous. Both Ames and Des Moines are about 330 miles and a 5 1/2 hour drive from any Chicago pro team's home stadium. That eliminates 99.9% of the potential fans switching their game day attendance target to a Chicagoland pro team right there. Chicago pro teams are a non-factor here and the assertion that they are is ridiculous.
Posted by: Kman_blue

Re: New Stadium Video - 09/28/17 02:00 PM

Originally Posted By: JimWest
Of course a ruralite like yourself would think that Navy Pier is an attraction. You're probably the type of person that collects Hard Rock Cafe t-shirts too so you have "evidence" of how well travelled you are.
Why do people from Chicago keep mentioning the Navy Pier as a point of attraction then? Are the citizens of the 3rd largest metro area in the US "ruralites" too?

And if John_Brown is a ruralite, what are you a Rico Suave sophisticate? LOL
Posted by: John_Brown

Re: New Stadium Video - 09/28/17 04:28 PM

Originally Posted By: JimWest
Of course a ruralite like yourself would think that Navy Pier is an attraction. You're probably the type of person that collects Hard Rock Cafe t-shirts too so you have "evidence" of how well travelled you are.


I've never been to a HardRockCafe. I have been to a lot of places. Honestly, 3 days in Chicago and I'm about done w/ it. The 'hassle factor' is incredibly high yet it lacks much of the reward you'd find in SanFran/NYC/LA. Given its near bankrupt status and astounding crime problem on the south side, I'm imagining a future more like Detroit and less like Seattle. But who knows?



The question is the role of KU Football's lack of a large fan base. Some are postulating that local competitive venues like camarohead/the K/Sporting KC have limited the growth of the fanbase relative to our peers (OU/UNL/CU). Those factors combined w/ a historically bad decade of on field success as devastated our attendance. I agree w/ that. Some have postulated an entire physical reboot of the program to a more convenient/modern location is needed. I couldn't disagree more. What fanbase the institution of KU Football does have is centered on an extremely dedicated core of Kansans that number around 20,000 IronArses. These people have many motivations: it's cheap family entertainment/it is Div 1 football/Big 12 fans/nostalgia/tradition. I personally believe it's nostalgia/tradition. Leaving the location at the bottom of the Hill would be a Gotterdammerung for the program. This on top of the Gotterdammerung that occurred when KU Football lost the Missoura game would give KU Football all the appeal of Johnson CCC athletics. I'm opposed to any change in location for KU Football.

Rock Chalk Jayhawk, Beat Mizzou
Posted by: JimWest

Re: New Stadium Video - 09/28/17 07:37 PM

Originally Posted By: Kman_blue

As for people in Iowa having Chicago, that's ridiculous. Both Ames and Des Moines are about 330 miles and a 5 1/2 hour drive from any Chicago pro team's home stadium. That eliminates 99.9% of the potential fans switching their game day attendance target to a Chicagoland pro team right there. Chicago pro teams are a non-factor here and the assertion that they are is ridiculous.


I've missed no point. The point is that only ruralite losers travel to watch sports.
Posted by: JimWest

Re: New Stadium Video - 09/28/17 07:39 PM

Originally Posted By: Kman_blue
Why do people from Chicago keep mentioning the Navy Pier as a point of attraction then? Are the citizens of the 3rd largest metro area in the US "ruralites" too?


No idea and yes. Most people in Chicago grew up on the farms of the surrounding states and honestly believe they've made it to the "Big City" now.

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And if John_Brown is a ruralite, what are you a Rico Suave sophisticate? LOL


There is no equivalent point of reference for JimWest.
Posted by: Kman_blue

Re: New Stadium Video - 09/28/17 08:04 PM

Originally Posted By: JimWest
Originally Posted By: Kman_blue

As for people in Iowa having Chicago, that's ridiculous. Both Ames and Des Moines are about 330 miles and a 5 1/2 hour drive from any Chicago pro team's home stadium. That eliminates 99.9% of the potential fans switching their game day attendance target to a Chicagoland pro team right there. Chicago pro teams are a non-factor here and the assertion that they are is ridiculous.


I've missed no point. The point is that only ruralite losers travel to watch sports.
LOL


Alright, I guess you have no point and your entire contribution to this thread amounts to nothing of substance. Thanks for playing.
Posted by: JimWest

Re: New Stadium Video - 09/28/17 08:06 PM

Originally Posted By: John_Brown
I've never been to a HardRockCafe.


Oh, your Eskimo Joe's t-shirt collection must be all you have then.

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I have been to a lot of places.


uh huh

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Honestly, 3 days in Chicago and I'm about done w/ it.


Yeah being poor is pretty limiting.

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The 'hassle factor' is incredibly high yet it lacks much of the reward you'd find in SanFran/NYC/LA.


The reward? Please enlighten us as to the rewards you reap from visiting cities for only 3-day stints.

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Given its near bankrupt status and astounding crime problem on the south side, I'm imagining a future more like Detroit and less like Seattle. But who knows?


lol

Yeah, LA is terrible because of Compton amirite? And OMG those rolling blackouts how can anyone ever survive?!?

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The question is the role of KU Football's lack of a large fan base.


How is this a question? Are you about to blow our collective minds by saying that KU doesn't have the same number of fans as the Chiefs? WHO KNEW?!

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Some are postulating that local competitive venues like camarohead/the K/Sporting KC have limited the growth of the fanbase relative to our peers (OU/UNL/CU).


Wait, you mean to tell us that there are other sports teams? There are other schools too?

By the way, only ruralites refer to Nebraska as "UNL" - it's an effort to make a purely rural school system seem important by having a "city" name attached. No one that has never been to rural Nebraska/Kansas has any idea what "UNL" means.

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Those factors combined w/ a historically bad decade of on field success as devastated our attendance.


A "bad decade of on field success"? That's how you would describe it? lol

Here's the truth, Mr. Rural-spin-till-the-cows-come-home-and-I-fall-over-dizzy:

"A decade of complete on field failure."

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I agree w/ that.


Me too.

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Some have postulated an entire physical reboot of the program to a more convenient/modern location is needed.


Some? As in like 4 people?

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I couldn't disagree more.


WOAH THERE, SLOW DOWN. You're really taking on a controversial position you know, daring to suggest keeping something the same at KU.

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What fanbase the institution of KU Football does have is centered on an extremely dedicated core of Kansans that number around 20,000 IronArses.


Wahoo, let's all make up a bunch of bs numbers!

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These people have many motivations:


This will be fun.

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it's cheap family entertainment


These are the same rural idiots that love spending their Friday nights watching high school football. It's even cheaper! Bring the whole truckload of kids!


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it is Div 1 football


Woah, are you suggesting people want to watch high level competition? The next thing you'll say is that people like the Chiefs because they are NFL fans and want to watch even better players. I don't think the world is ready for this idea.

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Big 12 fans


Only rural idiots are Truckstop 10 fans. No one is legitimately a fan of any conference except to justify their own pitiful existence by attaching their self-worth not only to a school but also to a whole region of schools so as to diversify their investment when their own school loses.

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nostalgia/tradition.


That's Rust Belt talk right there. CLING TO TRADITION ALL THE WAY DOWN TO OBLIVION!

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I personally believe it's nostalgia/tradition.


You would. Odd how this supermajority of fans that care about "nostalgia/tradition" above all else don't actually come to the games, don't you think? Something tells me it's way more about the on-field product and the fan experience than some ancient building in shambles.

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Leaving the location at the bottom of the Hill would be a Gotterdammerung for the program.


Somewhere in Hicksville, U.S.A., pulling out a big long German word in conversation elevates the speaker to King of the Hicks for at least a week. I hear the reward is a six pack of ice cold Bud Select from the nearby Seven Eleven.

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This on top of the Gotterdammerung that occurred when KU Football lost the Missoura game would give KU Football all the appeal of Johnson CCC athletics.


But, alas, even in Hicksville, U.S.A., repeating the same word in the very next sentence negates the elevated status awarded from the previous usage and exposes the speaker's limited vocabulary.

To the "point" though - wrong. Fan experience brings fans. Only ruralites that have never done anything with their lives, constantly relive the glory days of their high school football careers, and can't see past next week believe that "tradition" has this outweighted value that you are assigning it.

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I'm opposed to any change in location for KU Football.


Of course you are. Tradition at all costs! I'd rather go 0-12 every year with 10,000 people in the stands than dare change the stadium!

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Rock Chalk Jayhawk, Beat Mizzou


Beat Mizzou? When, exactly? Are you so attached to inbred rural tradition that you don't understand this isn't a thing anymore?
Posted by: Kman_blue

Re: New Stadium Video - 09/28/17 08:35 PM

Originally Posted By: JimWest
Originally Posted By: Kman_blue
Why do people from Chicago keep mentioning the Navy Pier as a point of attraction then? Are the citizens of the 3rd largest metro area in the US "ruralites" too?


No idea and yes. Most people in Chicago grew up on the farms of the surrounding states and honestly believe they've made it to the "Big City" now.
Demonstrably false, but have at it.


Originally Posted By: JimWest
Originally Posted By: Kman_blue
And if John_Brown is a ruralite, what are you a Rico Suave sophisticate? LOL

There is no equivalent point of reference for JimWest.
LOL I figured you'd say something like this. Kind of predictable but funny.


I surmise from this JimWest's view of humanity is as follows:

The entire global population = ruralites
JimWest = better than you , where you = global population minus 1
Posted by: casey

Re: New Stadium Video - 09/28/17 09:53 PM

Quick interruption to note Ames is looking great on prime time Thursday night football this evening.
Posted by: Kman_blue

Re: New Stadium Video - 09/28/17 11:03 PM

Didn't look too great to me. Looked like the same old boring farm town it's always been.

Oh, and ISU didn't look very good at all on O. Their D did well enough, but that O was just atrocious.
Posted by: dgless21

Re: New Stadium Video - 09/29/17 10:59 AM

Texas had the ball every time I switched over. ISU offense must've done a great job.

Maybe we can hold them to 35ish points.
Posted by: Kman_blue

Re: New Stadium Video - 09/29/17 01:58 PM

Yeah, ISU couldn't move the ball at all. Their QB was all up in his own head too.

They kept trying to throw intermediate and long routes while they couldn't maintain a pocket so their QB kept getting out of the pocket quickly and making inaccurate throws on the run. Texas did a good job of smothering their run game too. The only thing that really worked for ISU was the short passing game, but they didn't stick with it.

Texas's O wasn't a lot better. ISU kept dropping 8 into coverage and the Texas QB would sit back there for 6 or 7 seconds before he'd eventually find someone open or it seemed more often he'd throw it away or take off scrambling. Not sure if their WR's really weren't getting open for that long or if their QB simply had trouble seeing the open WR's.