Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc!

Posted by: Kman_blue

Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 01/30/17 01:58 PM

As National Signing Day for 2017 approaches this Wednesday, I thought why not begin looking at 2018 a little bit?

I'll start off with the only known offer out to a Kansas recruit so far according to Rivals in Miles Emery, a 6'5" 235lbs. 3 star DE out of Blue Valley North HS in Overland Park, KS. OU just offered him last week after a visit by our ex-DL coach, Thibodeaux, to his HS. No idea of his leanings or anything else about him right now, other than he's currently ranked the #13 DE in the nation for 2018 by Rivals.

KU has also offered several guys on the Missouri side of KC. In no particular order are.

Mario Goodrich, a 6'2" 180lbs. 4 star athlete out of Lee's Summit West HS in Lee's Summit, MO. He's got offers from almost every P5 school within 300 miles or so. Right now it seems the recruiting websites think he's a Nebraska lean, but it's still quite early obviously.

Cartez Crook-Jones, a 6'4" 230lbs. 3 star DE out of Grandview HS in Grandview, MO. So far, he's only showing offers from KU and ISU. He's not in the databases yet of a couple of the recruiting websites, so there's little info on him yet.

Daniel Carson, a 6'5" 270lbs. 3 star DE out of William Chrisman Senior HS in Independence, MO. KU was his 1st offer, but our former DL coach, Thibodeaux, struck again and also offered him (for OU) late last week while visiting his HS. Seems like our old ex-coach is trying to undermine our DL recruiting locally here. He's been hot on the heals of several of our offers now. Starting to not like OU even more!

Daniel Parker, Jr., a 6'3" 265lbs. 3 star DT out of Blue Springs HS in Blue Springs, MO. KU was 1 of his first offers and good ole coach Thibs didn't offer him while in KC last week! He's just about the only DL recruit KU has offered who Thibs didn't follow up on with an OU offer. So far, he's got 7 D-1 offers, including KU both the Iowa's, mizzery, and the Corn.

KU has also offered a St. Louis recruit in Trevor Trout, a 6'3" 295lbs. 4 star DT out of Chaminade HS in St. Louis, MO. He's got offers from most of the Big 12, including OU and Texas, as well as offers from most of the Big 10 and some SEC and PAC-12 schools in addition to his offer from KU. i.e. he's a big recruiting target for a ton of schools.


KU has also offered several Oklahoma prospects early as well. Nice to see KU hitting the state of Oklahoma hard again after seemingly ignoring it for a few years there, as we've pulled in some really nice players out of Oklahoma over the past 15 to 20 years or so.

Ace Vick, a 5'11" 160lbs. unranked DB out of Midwest City HS in Midwest City, OK. So far, KU is his only P5 offer and 1 of 3 D-1 offers, with the others being Wyoming and Memphis.

Sean Shaw, a 6'4" 200lbs. 4 star WR out of Jones HS in Jones, OK. KU was his 1st D-1 offer and so far he's only got 1 other offer and it's from SMU, but I expect his offer list will grow quickly.

Ron Tatum, a 6'5" 260lbs. 3 star DE out of Putnam City HS in Oklahoma City, OK. KU was also 1 of his first offers, but wouldn't you know our ex-coach strikes again! and OU offered him soon after. Seriously, on this one he's also got offers from the other Okie school, UT, and Alabama. This kid is going to have the pick of the litter so to speak of where he wants to go.

Nikia Jones, a 6'3" 210lbs. 3 star WR out of Wagoner HS in Wagoner, OK. So far, KU is his only D-1 offer.

Jalen Redmond, a 6'4" 230lbs. 3 star DE out of Midwest City HS in Midwest City, OK and teammate of Ace Vick. He's got offers from most of the Big 12, including both the Okie schools in addition to KU.


KU has a plethora of offers out to Louisiana recruits as well. This includes Yo'Heinz Tyler, a 6'5" 190lbs. WR out of Warren Easton Senior in New Orleans, LA and former home of coach Hull, who has KU at the top of his list right now, but I'll post those later or perhaps someone else will post about them. For right now, I think this is a good starter for the 2018 class thread.
Posted by: appyhawk

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 01/30/17 04:28 PM

"I'll start off with the only known offer out to a Kansas recruit so far according to Rivals in Miles Emery, a 6'5" 235lbs. 3 star DE out of Blue Valley North HS in Overland Park, KS. OU just offered him last week after a visit by our ex-DL coach, Thibodeaux, to his HS. No idea of his leanings or anything else about him right now, other than he's currently ranked the #13 DE in the nation for 2018 by Rivals."

Blows me away a kid ranked top 15 in the nation is only accorded 3 star ranking.
How does that happen Kman?
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 01/30/17 04:40 PM

That's not entirely true. He's the #13 Weakside defensive end.

All 12 players above him are 4 stars. There are also 14 Strongside defensive ends that get 4-5 stars. He's really the 27th ranked DE...if you include both.
Posted by: Kman_blue

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 01/30/17 06:20 PM

Yes, he's currently ranked as the #13 Weakside DE by Rivals, but Rivals is also still very early into their 2018 recruit ratings and there's a bunch of guys who have numerous P-5 offers, including many blue blood type offers who are either not rated or rated as 3 star recruits right now also. They'll certainly re-rate these recruits a few times before now and 2018 NSD.
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 01/30/17 07:34 PM

Originally Posted By: appyhawk
"I'll start off with the only known offer out to a Kansas recruit so far according to Rivals in Miles Emery, a 6'5" 235lbs. 3 star DE out of Blue Valley North HS in Overland Park, KS. OU just offered him last week after a visit by our ex-DL coach, Thibodeaux, to his HS. No idea of his leanings or anything else about him right now, other than he's currently ranked the #13 DE in the nation for 2018 by Rivals."

Blows me away a kid ranked top 15 in the nation is only accorded 3 star ranking.
How does that happen Kman?
I know you may not want to have others answer but there is a limited # of 4 & 5's.
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 01/31/17 03:33 PM

Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
I know you may not want to have others answer but there is a limited # of 4 & 5's.


Posted by: Kman_blue

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/01/17 08:59 AM

KU's 1st Junior day of the year will be this coming Saturday and I've heard they're going to have a really big group of Juniors coming. Talk of a couple of dozen recruits from Louisiana driving up for it even.

KU usually gets a good group of Kansas/KC recruits along with some good groups from the Dallas/Fort Worth area, Oklahoma, and Missouri, as well as a few from other surrounding states, but this is the 1st time I've heard of such a large group coming from Louisiana.

Coach Hull still doin serious work!

Also have heard that quite a few of these recruits will be highly rated type guys too. No slight on any recruits who aren't currently highly rated as it's still very early in the 2018 recruiting period (1st day!) and a lot of guys just get missed by the recruiting services, but it's pretty cool to have so many highly rated guys coming in to check out KU up close and personal.
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/01/17 09:10 AM

We're supposedly high up on the list for four star WR Lawrence Keys III from McDonogh 35 (NOLA) and the favorite for unrated Weakside defensive end Markus Martin from Baton Rouge.

http://247sports.com/player/lawrence-keys-iii-88429

http://247sports.com/player/markus-martin-81386
Posted by: PbBut

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/02/17 12:29 AM

I know there are some unknowns because of potential transfers both in and out, but as it stands today, approximately what kind of number of recruits are we looking for in 2018? These redshirt, grayshirt, camoshirt categories are confusing to me. (Camoshirt is a new category for those players you can't identify.)
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/02/17 08:18 AM

Rivals made it appear that we signed 21 and had 6 take an initial counter from last year. Which means at least 2 would have to take an initial counter from next year (because we only get 25 initial counters per year -- 27 is 2 more than 25).

Best case would be 23 initial counters left for 2018.

If we gave ALL of the walk-ons scholarships from next year's initial counters (unlikely), we'd be at 16 initial counters. (Kaufmann, Boatner, Jack Williams, Burt, Marshall, Oshita, McQuillian)

I would guess that we'll have a class similar to this year's where we sign 20ish players and bring in a handful of walk-ons for 2018.
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/02/17 10:28 AM

Beaty mentioned yesterday that the junior day this coming weekend would ideally be 10-12 players and that these guys were high level guys.

He mentioned that one of the players called to confirm the junior day and mentioned having talked to Tom (Herman), Jimbo, and Urban this week.
Posted by: Kman_blue

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/02/17 01:00 PM

My best guess off the top of my head is about what Dgless21's is.

I think the "official" class will have between 17-20 in it, but we'll actually get about 25 or so, with some blueshirting, etc.

I don't think any of the walkons for this class will get scholarships this coming season, so I don't think they'll affect the numbers. I do think a few walkons from the 2016 class will get scholarships AFTER this coming season, which means they too won't affect the numbers other than the 85 total scholarship player count.
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/03/17 08:27 AM

Mods, can we get a pin?

Ayodele Adeoye from STL is visiting this weekend.
Offers: MU, Illinois, N. Illinois, Bowling Green, Utah State, KU, others

http://247sports.com/Player/Ayodele-Adeoye-46038498

Daniel Parker, Jr from Blue Springs is visiting.
Offers: Iowa, Missouri, Minnesota, Nebraska, others
http://247sports.com/player/daniel-parker-94085

JayhawkSlantVerified account ‏@JayhawkSlant 7m
JR DAY Update: Four from KS, seven from Louisiana, six from MO, one from TX. A lot of Power Five talent #kufball
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/03/17 08:34 AM

Daniel Carson (Independence) and Khristian Boyd (Blue Springs) too.

https://www.hudl.com/profile/4488285/daniel-carson

https://www.hudl.com/profile/5530700/khristian-boyd
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/03/17 09:04 AM

Originally Posted By: dgless21
Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
I know you may not want to have others answer but there is a limited # of 4 & 5's.


Sorry I spoke up but it's impossible to keep up with the unicorn 🦄 poster
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/03/17 01:16 PM

Corione Harris has tweeted that he'll be here this weekend.

4 star from NOLA.

http://247sports.com/Player/Corione-Harris-83492
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/03/17 01:53 PM

Originally Posted By: dgless21
Corione Harris has tweeted that he'll be here this weekend.

4 star from NOLA.

http://247sports.com/Player/Corione-Harris-83492
I opened the link. It says prediction 100% LSU, 3 star .87 247 prediction. Of course, he is considered a "4 star" by dgless
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/03/17 02:07 PM

His 247 Composite ranking is a four star and 0.9382.

Posted by: track

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/03/17 02:07 PM

Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
Originally Posted By: dgless21
Corione Harris has tweeted that he'll be here this weekend.

4 star from NOLA.

http://247sports.com/Player/Corione-Harris-83492
I opened the link. It says prediction 100% LSU, 3 star .87 247 prediction. Of course, he is considered a "4 star" by dgless

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Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/03/17 02:53 PM

Cartez Crook Jones will be here this weekend according to his twitter.

He's a three star. Grandview, MO. DE.

https://n.rivals.com/content/prospects/183163
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/03/17 03:02 PM

Mario Goodrich will be here this weekend according to his twitter.

He's a FOUR star (unless you can't read). He's listed as an athlete on rivals. Lee's Summit, MO.

https://n.rivals.com/content/prospects/182554
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/03/17 03:04 PM

Devin Haney will be here this weekend according to his twitter.

Three star cornerback from Park Hill, MO

https://n.rivals.com/content/prospects/20300
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/03/17 03:13 PM

Kenan Jones tweeted he's visiting this weekend.

LSU Commit. 4 star WR.

http://247sports.com/Player/Kenan-Jones-45572411
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/03/17 03:24 PM

A dude on Phog added a couple visitor names:

Aaron Brule
http://247sports.com/Player/Aaron-Brule-86421

Clayton Tune
http://247sports.com/Player/Clayton-Tune-89450

Miles Emery
http://247sports.com/player/miles-emery-46037846

Anthony Williams
http://247sports.com/Player/Anthony-Williams-90567

Dante Jackson
http://www.hudl.com/profile/6337960/dante-jackson

Mac Copeland
http://www.hudl.com/profile/4070690/mac-copeland

JaMarr Chase
http://247sports.com/Player/JaMarr-Chase-82059
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/03/17 03:30 PM

Originally Posted By: dgless21
His 247 Composite ranking is a four star and 0.9382.

Nice crop job. I said his 247 ranking not the Composite doofus.
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/03/17 03:32 PM

Originally Posted By: dgless21
Kenan Jones tweeted he's visiting this weekend.

LSU Commit. 4 star WR.

http://247sports.com/Player/Kenan-Jones-45572411
It says"Hard commit" dgless
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/03/17 03:39 PM

Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
Originally Posted By: dgless21
His 247 Composite ranking is a four star and 0.9382.

Nice crop job. I said his 247 ranking not the Composite doofus.


I said he was a four star. You and your typical jackassery commented that he was a three. I was simply showing you where that ranking came from so a simple fella like you could understand. Obviously, you did not.

Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
Originally Posted By: dgless21
Kenan Jones tweeted he's visiting this weekend.

LSU Commit. 4 star WR.

http://247sports.com/Player/Kenan-Jones-45572411
It says"Hard commit" dgless


I'm curious as to what about that makes my post invalid. I posted he was committed to LSU. I only stated that he tweeted that he is visiting. Sorry that you can't understand basic English, but that's really nothing new for you.
Posted by: EstebanBugatti

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/03/17 03:41 PM

Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
Originally Posted By: dgless21
Kenan Jones tweeted he's visiting this weekend.

LSU Commit. 4 star WR.

http://247sports.com/Player/Kenan-Jones-45572411
It says"Hard commit" dgless

I'm pretty sure 24/7 doesn't have a "Soft Verbal" option.
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/03/17 04:20 PM

Originally Posted By: EstebanBugatti
Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
Originally Posted By: dgless21
Kenan Jones tweeted he's visiting this weekend.

LSU Commit. 4 star WR.

http://247sports.com/Player/Kenan-Jones-45572411
It says"Hard commit" dgless

I'm pretty sure 24/7 doesn't have a "Soft Verbal" option.
The cropped out area for Harris says "3 stars" and a lesser score but you cannot or will not understand that. I will tell the hard facts here. Hard commit is different than simply commit. Everyone knows that.
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/03/17 04:31 PM

Sorry to everyone for providing 16/18 junior day visitors.

KUCO can obviously do it better.

Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/03/17 04:46 PM

John Graves from Blue Springs will be here.

http://247sports.com/Player/John-Graves-46037880




That makes 17/18. KUCO - where you at, bro?
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/03/17 04:50 PM

Also visiting:
Nick Channel - Wichita (Kapaun Mt. Carmel)
http://www.hudl.com/profile/679791/nick-channel


18/18. Game, blouses.
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/03/17 04:51 PM

Originally Posted By: dgless21
Sorry to everyone for providing 16/18 junior day visitors.

KUCO can obviously do it better.

Kudos to dgless for his providing information. But sugarcoated info is what I mean when i say "unicorn alert" Again thank you. For admitting I may be accurate...
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/03/17 04:55 PM

KUCO provided no news, updates, or etc. and still talking s|hit.

Props, man.

Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/03/17 04:56 PM

Originally Posted By: dgless21
Also visiting:
Nick Channel - Wichita (Kapaun Mt. Carmel)
http://www.hudl.com/profile/679791/nick-channel


18/18. Game, blouses.

Game, set, match? I am 😕 confused
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/03/17 04:57 PM

Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
Originally Posted By: dgless21
Also visiting:
Nick Channel - Wichita (Kapaun Mt. Carmel)
http://www.hudl.com/profile/679791/nick-channel


18/18. Game, blouses.

Game, set, match? I am 😕 confused

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3KskO3_2YQ
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/03/17 04:58 PM

Originally Posted By: dgless21
KUCO provided no news, updates, or etc. and still talking s|hit.

Props, man.

All I said was accuracy is good thang
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/03/17 05:03 PM

Originally Posted By: dgless21
Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
Originally Posted By: dgless21
Also visiting:
Nick Channel - Wichita (Kapaun Mt. Carmel)
http://www.hudl.com/profile/679791/nick-channel


18/18. Game, blouses.

Game, set, match? I am 😕 confused

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3KskO3_2YQ
Who the frick is Dave Chapel? A friend?
Posted by: pizzanbeer

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/03/17 05:14 PM

Kuco is Monty Pythons Black Knight
Posted by: INation

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/03/17 09:30 PM

Just wondering, how many players from last years JR day/days signed with KU this season?
Posted by: schmuck34

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/04/17 03:33 AM

Dgless I plead with you to block ("ignore") the cuck, You are a huge part of this message board and you engaging with him just takes away from the good info and fun for us more engaged and intellectual posters. Thank you for your consideration.
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/04/17 05:22 AM

Originally Posted By: schmuck34
Dgless I plead with you to block ("ignore") the cuck, You are a huge part of this message board and you engaging with him just takes away from the good info and fun for us more engaged and intellectual posters. Thank you for your consideration.
Since this is your 1st post in 2017 on this board, I think we ignore each other quite well. You're welcome. Humor along with player info isn't your thang, I get it.

I lack intellect as much as you enjoy my humor. Get it?
Posted by: MNJAYHAWK418

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/04/17 12:51 PM

back to your scheduled programming.

Coach Beaty just gave us a #NeatDeal I wonder who it is?
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/04/17 01:16 PM

My guess would be Clayton Tune...just based on what I've been hearing/reading.
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/04/17 01:27 PM

I believe Tre Wheaton was a late addition to the visitor list:

http://www.hudl.com/profile/4509763/tre-wheaton

This guy (Grant Norton) was there too:

http://www.hudl.com/profile/4393058/grant-norton
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/04/17 02:01 PM

Originally Posted By: MNJAYHAWK418
back to your scheduled programming.

Coach Beaty just gave us some hope
I can wait until April for schmock's reply. "I'm a intellectual you know"
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/04/17 02:04 PM

It was Anthony Williams that committed.

http://247sports.com/Player/Anthony-Williams-90567
Posted by: EstebanBugatti

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/04/17 03:43 PM

Originally Posted By: dgless21
It was Anthony Williams that committed.

http://247sports.com/Player/Anthony-Williams-90567

Clocked at a 4.27 40.
Posted by: EstebanBugatti

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/04/17 05:06 PM

Kenny Perry ‏@CoachPerryKU 3m3 minutes ago

Another talented DFW 2018 LEADER joining a talented group @KU_Football #NeatDeal
Posted by: MNJAYHAWK418

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/04/17 05:10 PM

I believe this is Clayton Tune
Posted by: MNJAYHAWK418

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/04/17 06:30 PM

It is, a couple of guys I follow that cover Texas recruiting saying it's a huge get if we can hang on, they think Texas may come calling

Burnt Orange Tune article

Originally Posted By: MNJAYHAWK418
I believe this is Clayton Tune
Posted by: SPHawks

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/04/17 07:21 PM

Beaty has just tweeted his 3rd and 4th #NeatDeal of the day!
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/04/17 07:25 PM

Both from Louisiana.
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/04/17 07:28 PM

Corione Harris is in.
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/04/17 07:30 PM

Devonta Jason is the other.
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/04/17 07:31 PM

Two top 100 recruits according to Rivals #35 (Jason) and #60 (Harris)
Posted by: kylecof11

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/04/17 07:59 PM

Yeah that Jason kid is a damn stud. Beaty and Co did some work this weekend!
Posted by: MNJAYHAWK418

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/04/17 08:34 PM

whoa. if we can hold onto these guys it will be the best recruiting class in Jayhawk history.
Posted by: Goober

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/04/17 09:12 PM

Don't know what coach Hull is being paid. Give that man a bonus and keep him in the fold! What a day! Hopefully we can keep them until signing day.
Posted by: PbBut

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/04/17 10:34 PM

Now the real work starts, keeping these guys. The impressive thing is the staff got these players on campus and got them to say "Yes!" In the recent past they wouldn't have opened the mail, assuming of course previous staffs would have bothered to even make an offer.
Posted by: Kman_blue

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/04/17 10:58 PM

This is an EXTREMELY BIG DAY for KU football recruiting!!!!!!

These guys aren't just really really good, but they're game changers too. This made my day and made me completely forget about what happened in Allen today. Well, except I did love the acknowledgement of our All-Big 12 football guys and the love the crowd showed them. That was very good to see/hear.

Man, I'm still on cloud nine soaking this all in. These guys are the real deals.

This feels different than the early commits we got last year at about this time in a few different ways too. 1 is, they already had offers from tons and tons of P-5 schools already, including LSU and Alabama! Unlike last year, when those guys got a lot of other offers AFTER they had committed to KU.

Also, having their friend and former teammate Mike Lee on the team I think played big part in their commitments. Coach Hull is also the man! He's a good coach and is very honest and up front with these guys and recruits can feel that's the case. That goes a long way IMO. A lot of recruits do a lot of spinning and tell recruits what they want to hear and not the truth nor what they need to hear and I think the recruits can feel that and it builds a lot trust as it should.

Man, and this doesn't even cover Pooka Williams and Tune! I'd have been ecstatic if we'd only gotten their commitments today! Those are 2 really good players who I think will see their stock continue to rise. A lot of other schools are probably also going to come in hard on them now that they've committed to KU.

Let's hope KU can hold on to all 4 of the guys who've committed so far this weekend! Interestingly enough, I think it'll be easier (relatively speaking) for KU to hold on to The Whop and Jason than it will be for Tune and Williams. I think the 1st 2 guys have a strong bond with Mike Lee and coach Hull and that'll keep them committed. I'm very hopeful Williams and Tune feel the same kind of connection and level of commitment to the coaches and KU too!

Lastly, I also love the fact so many KU NFL guys and other former players have been hitting these guys up on twitter. Saw, Talib, Harris, Stuckey, Heeney, and Goodman among others giving these guys some love. Someone told me even a couple of KU NBA guys hit them up too. Man, as always, but even more so right now, IT'S A GREAT DAY TO BE A JAYHAWK!!

I'm pumped, can you tell!?!?!?
Posted by: Kman_blue

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/04/17 11:00 PM

Oh, and just because it's soooooo fun to do!

KU is currently ranked the #9 recruiting class in the nation for 2018 and #1 in the Big 12!!

grin

http://247sports.com/Season/2018-Football/CompositeTeamRankings
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/04/17 11:10 PM

JaMarr Chase says he's a Jayhawk.

4 star WR. #170 overall on rivals.
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/04/17 11:18 PM

Originally Posted By: Kman_blue
Oh, and just because it's soooooo fun to do!

KU is currently ranked the #9 recruiting class in the nation for 2018 and #1 in the Big 12!!

grin

http://247sports.com/Season/2018-Football/CompositeTeamRankings
Does DB have another thing he has to do? Win games? Unicorns 🦄 everywhere today. Please clean up the glitter blowing south out of the backside.
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/04/17 11:23 PM

Aaron Brule is in also.

3 star safety. 30th ranked safety in the class.
Posted by: bigdogjac

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/04/17 11:27 PM

I am so excited! With Lee and Hull I think we will keep these guys!
Posted by: Kman_blue

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/04/17 11:28 PM

Originally Posted By: dgless21
JaMarr Chase says he's a Jayhawk.

4 star WR. #170 overall on rivals.
Booyah!!!

Another 4 star Louisianimal commits!! I don't think I can go to sleep tonight! LOL

But...but...but...the crystal ball predictor on 247 says 100% LSU!!!!

Damn, they haven't updated their team rankings on 247 yet to reflect the latest commitment!
Posted by: Kman_blue

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/04/17 11:29 PM

Originally Posted By: dgless21
Aaron Brule is in also.

3 star safety. 30th ranked safety in the class.
Son of a Biatch! I can't even get a post off before another 1 drops! haha

Man, this is AWESOME!!
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/04/17 11:29 PM

Originally Posted By: bigdogjac
I am so excited! With Lee and Hull I think we will keep these guys!


Charlot is from that area. Tyriek, Takulve, Malik Clark, and Travis Jordan too.
Posted by: Kman_blue

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/04/17 11:35 PM

Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
Originally Posted By: Kman_blue
Oh, and just because it's soooooo fun to do!

KU is currently ranked the #9 recruiting class in the nation for 2018 and #1 in the Big 12!!

grin

http://247sports.com/Season/2018-Football/CompositeTeamRankings
Does DB have another thing he has to do? Win games? Unicorns 🦄 everywhere today. Please clean up the glitter blowing south out of the backside.


Hey Chuck we got some non-believers here!

Posted by: Kman_blue

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/04/17 11:42 PM

This is soooooo damned fun right now, I think I heard there's a party at Paul Rudd's mom's house tonight! grin

He is a KU alum after all.



Little longer full Paul Rudd video
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/04/17 11:49 PM

Curious if we'll get the last (I think) of the Louisiana recruits--Kenan Jones.
Posted by: SPHawks

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/04/17 11:52 PM

Not only is it relieving that Hull, Lee, Starks, Clark, Charlot, etc. have connections with these boys, but if I am reading things right Harris and Jason are high school teammates (and were with Lee) and then Brule and Chase are high school teammates. I think they'll do their parts keeping each other pumped up and ready to take their talents north!
Posted by: Kman_blue

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/04/17 11:56 PM

Love it, all these guy's twitter is blowin up!!

They puttin up some great tweets of their own also.

I liked this one a lot!

Brule tweet

Posted by: Kman_blue

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/04/17 11:58 PM

Originally Posted By: dgless21
Curious if we'll get the last (I think) of the Louisiana recruits--Kenan Jones.
He probably be the hardest one to get out of the group.
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/05/17 12:01 AM

From what I was hearing, I'm surprised Crook-Jones isn't in too.
Posted by: Kman_blue

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/05/17 12:02 AM

Originally Posted By: SPHawks
Not only is it relieving that Hull, Lee, Starks, Clark, Charlot, etc. have connections with these boys, but if I am reading things right Harris and Jason are high school teammates (and were with Lee) and then Brule and Chase are high school teammates. I think they'll do their parts keeping each other pumped up and ready to take their talents north!
Yeah, as Dgless21 pointed out, can't forget about Charlot, Takulve, and Jordan also being from the area.

You read it right too. I think Lee being good friends and former teammate with Harris and Jason really increases our chances of holding on to them until NSD. I agree that Brule and Chase joining the crew also as current teammates helps out a lot too.

Man, I really don't think I'm going to be able to sleep tonight!
Posted by: Kman_blue

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/05/17 12:04 AM

Originally Posted By: dgless21
From what I was hearing, I'm surprised Crook-Jones isn't in too.
Yeah, early on today he actually seemed like the most excited one of the bunch!

Don't know who came up with him as far as family is concerned, but maybe he wants to discuss things with family before he decides if they aren't in Lawrence with him. Just a guess.
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/05/17 12:10 AM

I'm curious where that Yoheinz Tyler dude is this weekend.
Posted by: Kman_blue

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/05/17 12:58 AM

Not sure what's up with Yo'Heinz right now.
Posted by: Kman_blue

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/05/17 12:59 AM

Also, since I'm still all lit up and wide awake right now, here's another really cool video KU football put out on Friday.

KU off season early morning workout video
Posted by: schmuck34

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/05/17 03:04 AM

Holy santa clause shyt! I get sick and miss junior day and look what happens! Wow. Gotta hang on to em!!! (Having all the LA guys should def help that cause. Want an integral hire Hull was!)
Posted by: appyhawk

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/05/17 10:52 AM

IF we can hold on to these guys it appears to be an example of this program substituting a giant leap for Jayhawk kind in place of the baby steps we've been taking. This is the sort of thing that could snowball in our favor. When other high ranking recruits see the momentum and movement happening they can feel it and be more inclined to want to join the party.
Woohoo!!!!
Posted by: Kman_blue

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/05/17 02:41 PM

For those of you who like to look at the team rankings, and I know there's at least one of you out there, here's KU's rank today.

#7 ranked recruiting class in the ENTIRE COUNTRY! and the #1 ranked recruiting class in the Big 12!

Recruiting class ranks

Yes, yes, it's still very very early in this class, but when at any point over the past 17 years or so has KU been ranked this high according to the recruiting websites?? I can answer that, never! Right now KU's class is ranked above the likes of Alabama, Ohio St., Michigan, and Oklahoma! Let that soak in for a minute or two. That doesn't even account for the 2nd guy to officially commit yesterday, Clayton Tune, as he's not yet rated. As soon as they do rate him, KU's class score will go up even more. Who knows, maybe even bump us up a spot or 2.

This was certainly a HUGE weekend for KU football!

I'm still pumped and excited about it like it just happened!

Of course, the hard work begins now in keeping all of these awesomely talented recruits committed for the next year or so.

From what I've been hearing, it sound like they're all pretty solid with KU right now, with maybe Anthony Pooka Williams being the most solid. They've been retweeting a lot of tweets from people hating on them, as well as a lot of NOLA people and KU fans giving them congratulations. I love seeing all the NOLA crowd and folks from The Boot congratulating them! They seem to be enjoying the process as well as taking some heat from fans of other schools questioning their decisions.

Love it! grin
Posted by: vmlb

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/05/17 03:17 PM

Question: How many of our oral commits last year signed on Feb. 1?
Posted by: pizzanbeer

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/05/17 03:56 PM

Can Beaty get any of these players in early like he did with Lee? Get them to campus ASAP with blue shirts so we don't have to worry about poaching.
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/05/17 04:24 PM

Originally Posted By: Kman_blue
For those of you who like to look at the team rankings, and I know there's at least one of you out there, here's KU's rank today.

#7 ranked recruiting class in the ENTIRE COUNTRY! and the #1 ranked recruiting class in the Big 12!

Recruiting class ranks

Yes, yes, it's still very very early in this class, but when at any point over the past 17 years or so has KU been ranked this high according to the recruiting websites?? I can answer that, never! Right now KU's class is ranked above the likes of Alabama, Ohio St., Michigan, and Oklahoma! Let that soak in for a minute or two. That doesn't even account for the 2nd guy to officially commit yesterday, Clayton Tune, as he's not yet rated. As soon as they do rate him, KU's class score will go up even more. Who knows, maybe even bump us up a spot or 2.

This was certainly a HUGE weekend for KU football!

I'm still pumped and excited about it like it just happened!

Of course, the hard work begins now in keeping all of these awesomely talented recruits committed for the next year or so.

From what I've been hearing, it sound like they're all pretty solid with KU right now, with maybe Anthony Pooka Williams being the most solid. They've been retweeting a lot of tweets from people hating on them, as well as a lot of NOLA people and KU fans giving them congratulations. I love seeing all the NOLA crowd and folks from The Boot congratulating them! They seem to be enjoying the process as well as taking some heat from fans of other schools questioning their decisions.

Love it! grin
Sorry I don't believe in Santa Clause until December...
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/05/17 04:28 PM

Originally Posted By: appyhawk
IF we can hold on to these guys it appears to be an example of this program substituting a giant leap for Jayhawk kind in place of the baby steps we've been taking. This is the sort of thing that could snowball in our favor. When other high ranking recruits see the momentum and movement happening they can feel it and be more inclined to want to join the party.
Woohoo!!!!
2-10 isn't much of "a party" is it? Boohoo!!!
Posted by: Kman_blue

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/05/17 06:54 PM



Troll revealing his true colors!
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/05/17 08:19 PM

Originally Posted By: vmlb
Question: How many of our oral commits last year signed on Feb. 1?


Not really sure how to answer your question. We had 8 decommits last year (verbals who went elsewhere). We signed 21 (via rivals). So we signed 21/29 verbals? I guess that's what you're asking for.

However, I believe one didn't/wouldn't qualify (Akayleb Evans) and went to Tulsa (not 100%, that was the rumor). One was committed for literally 2 or 3 days--Zach McKinney. Darreon Jackson had his offer pulled due to extenuating circumstances. Tago was in contact with the coaches and made a mutual decision to be closer to home (Hawaii).

That leaves Troy James, Reggie Roberson, Jared Hocker, and Grant Polley. Two of those players committed about this time last year (Polley and Hocker).
Posted by: bigdogjac

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/05/17 09:55 PM

One difference about Polley and Hocker if i remember right, is they had offers from more prestigious programs after they committed to us. The recruits we got from the LA kids already had offers from most of those top programs. I believe we will be keeping most of them. Look for some others from our closer recruiting area jump on the band wagon.
Posted by: vmlb

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/05/17 10:32 PM

Thanks for the answers. While these commits are exciting I'm waiting till next signing day to jump on the bandwagon. A lot can happen the next 12 months. For example, coaches can change. Kuco could become AD. Too many variables, but I'm keeping my fingers crossed.
Posted by: Goober

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/05/17 11:54 PM

When KooCoo becomes AD is when I put antifreeze on my salad. Strichnine on my Corn Flakes. Arsenic in my iced tea. Sky dive without a parachute. Stare down a freight train. Etc...Somebody just shoot me on that awful day. My gun. My ammo. Free.
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/06/17 06:47 AM

Originally Posted By: Goober
When KooCoo becomes AD is when I put antifreeze on my salad. Strichnine on my Corn Flakes. Arsenic in my iced tea. Sky dive without a parachute. Stare down a freight train. Etc...Somebody just shoot me on that awful day. My gun. My ammo. Free.
24 7 365 has reported and I will confirm my verbal commitment to be AD in 2020.
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/06/17 06:55 AM

Originally Posted By: dgless21
Originally Posted By: vmlb
Question: How many of our oral commits last year signed on Feb. 1?


Not really sure how to answer your question. We had 8 decommits last year (verbals who went elsewhere). We signed 21 (via rivals). So we signed 21/29 verbals? I guess that's what you're asking for.

However, I believe one didn't/wouldn't qualify (Akayleb Evans) and went to Tulsa (not 100%, that was the rumor). One was committed for literally 2 or 3 days--Zach McKinney. Darreon Jackson had his offer pulled due to extenuating circumstances. Tago was in contact with the coaches and made a mutual decision to be closer to home (Hawaii).

That leaves Troy James, Reggie Roberson, Jared Hocker, and Grant Polley. Two of those players committed about this time last year (Polley and Hocker).
Pretty good answer but the question was being hazy. Probably meant JD attendees who verbaled then signed...
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/06/17 07:45 AM

I'm curious. On paper (key words until we see the on field play), there doesn't seem to be a glaring need on the roster.

Who/what is on your wish list for 2018's recruiting class?

(Beyond keeping the 5 "Louisianimals" committed)
Posted by: kylecof11

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/06/17 08:02 AM

I'd like to see some more players in the trenches..
Posted by: bigdogjac

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/06/17 08:44 AM

I'm with you kyle. It is not easy. OSU just fired their OL coach because he couldn't recruit.
Posted by: kylecof11

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/06/17 09:01 AM

Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
Originally Posted By: appyhawk
IF we can hold on to these guys it appears to be an example of this program substituting a giant leap for Jayhawk kind in place of the baby steps we've been taking. This is the sort of thing that could snowball in our favor. When other high ranking recruits see the momentum and movement happening they can feel it and be more inclined to want to join the party.
Woohoo!!!!
2-10 isn't much of "a party" is it? Boohoo!!!


Could you do a quick look for me KooCoo? Can you let me know what the average rating is on 247 since you only seem to care about average ratings?

And also since you were in such flat denial that Harris the #1 recruit in 2017 visited campus twice and was mildly interested, and now getting 5 damn good players, can you finally admit that this staff can recruit? And that better recruits eventually lead to better success on the field?
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/06/17 09:05 AM

Our OL seems to be adding HS players year to year through walk-ons or scholarship players. We seem to add 2-3 scholarship OL and a couple walk-ons each year with Beaty.

I see our issues being the DT position. Outside of Wise, it seems the DT is one position where we rely very heavily on JUCOs (Dezir, Holmes, Holani, DeeIsaac).

Both are very important. HS DT recruiting has certainly been lacking lately.

Will be interesting to see where we put Bostick. Yenser and Beaty both mentioned him having the measurables to be an early round pick as an OL if he puts in the work, but it sounded like he was more ready to play immediately on defense (via comments at the season ticket holder event).
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/06/17 10:14 AM

Originally Posted By: kylecof11
Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
Originally Posted By: appyhawk
IF we can hold on to these guys it appears to be an example of this program substituting a giant leap for Jayhawk kind in place of the baby steps we've been taking. This is the sort of thing that could snowball in our favor. When other high ranking recruits see the momentum and movement happening they can feel it and be more inclined to want to join the party.
Woohoo!!!!
2-10 isn't much of "a party" is it? Boohoo!!!


Could you do a quick look for me KooCoo? Can you let me know what the average rating is on 247 since you only seem to care about average ratings?

And also since you were in such flat denial that Harris the #1 recruit in 2017 visited campus twice and was mildly interested, and now getting 5 damn good players, can you finally admit that this staff can recruit? And that better recruits eventually lead to better success on the field?
I already posted we should have the best of the three off season groups for Beaty earlier. Will look at ratings later
Posted by: SPHawks

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/06/17 11:12 AM

Nelson Jenkins, 6'4 290 LBS DT from Plaquemine High School in Louisiana has committed to KU. Rivals has him as a 3 star. 1st-Team All District,Honorable Mention All-State
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/06/17 11:17 AM

http://247sports.com/Player/Nelson-Jenkins-86983

https://n.rivals.com/content/prospects/185124

He's unrated at the moment. EDIT: Looks like Rivals made him a three star.
So much for not getting HS DTs.

Rivals shows Georgia Tech, SMU, Tulane UTSA, and ULL offers.

JayhawkSlant @JayhawkSlant 2m
#KU staff wanted Nelson Jenkins for a while. Offered him last September #kufball


Curious if we'll chase his DB/Athlete teammate - Wayne Toussant. Has offers from Arizona State and Louisiana Tech.
Posted by: Josh2408

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/06/17 12:50 PM

My twitter says he also had offers from OU, Baja and LSU
Posted by: Phog1004

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/06/17 12:55 PM

247's "Crystal Ball" predicted him to LSU at 100%

while I don't think he actually had a offer yet from LSU, despite the strong interest, it is always nice to see a prediction to a school like that, directly below the Picture of a Jayhawk and "Hard Commit 2/6/2017"
Posted by: kylecof11

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/06/17 01:00 PM

There's one off the wish list of getting a guy in the trenches. This is absolutely insane. But I am loving it.

Who woulda thunk that Kansas is one of the most talked about programs in CFB in February! I mean this is all over twitter and there is a lot of confusion from fans of other teams, but this is still great pub that you have the top recruiting guys with ESPN, Rivals, and 247 noticing this and making it known that this is wild.
Posted by: Kman_blue

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/06/17 01:03 PM

But...but...but...but...the infallible 247 crystal ball says 100% for LSU!?!?!?

Someone's world must be crumbling a little bit more with each commitment to KU.



This kid is a beast! He's quick, strong as an ox and relentless. All things that make a great DT. I love that he just doesn't stop on any play. That kind of motor you either got or you don't. Check out his highlight videos if you can. I suspect he's gonna have a lot more schools coming after him before it's all said and done.

I also saw(on twitter) someone posted a gif of coach Beaty in the Boot after this commitment and thought it was funny.


Coach Beaty walking down the street of NOLA! LOL

Welcome to the Jayhawk family Mr. Jenkins!!
Posted by: Kman_blue

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/06/17 01:08 PM

Originally Posted By: kylecof11
There's one off the wish list of getting a guy in the trenches. This is absolutely insane. But I am loving it.

Who woulda thunk that Kansas is one of the most talked about programs in CFB in February! I mean this is all over twitter and there is a lot of confusion from fans of other teams, but this is still great pub that you have the top recruiting guys with ESPN, Rivals, and 247 noticing this and making it known that this is wild.
I know it's not quite the rag it used to be, but even USA Today has a story up now about KU's recent GIANT haul of football recruits!

USA Today story on KU football recruiting
Posted by: kylecof11

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/06/17 01:10 PM

You know what would be even better? There is another good player for Landry Walker that is a DE that is committed to Missouri right now. Go get him Beaty!
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/06/17 01:12 PM

Originally Posted By: Josh2408
My twitter says he also had offers from OU, Baja and LSU


I don't know about those "offers"...247 showed him with interest from OU, LSU, and Bama.
Posted by: Kman_blue

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/06/17 01:17 PM

I think one thing that a ton of people, especially outsiders (outside the KU football universe) as well as a lot of more casual KU fans are missing in all of this is why these dudes committed.

Obviously it's in large part the work of coach Hull, but it goes deeper than a typical coach-recruit dynamic here. Coach Hull stepped down from a good paying NASA job to coach inner city NOLA HS football. Not just because he loves football and coaching, but also because he cares about these kids and wants to help as many of them succeed in life as much as he wants to help them succeed on the football field.

I know, I know, it sounds like some 1950's corny ass BS, but it's true, and that's why these dudes are committing to KU and coach Hull. Coach Hull has been known to most of these kids and their families for almost a decade now. They know he's a man of his word. A man of action. A man of integrity. A genuine man who isn't selling them some slicked up recruiting spin story. They believed in him enough and trusted him enough to take his word about how great things are up in Lawrence, KS and at KU to make the Junior Day visit. When they got here they saw with their own eyes everything was as he told them it was and even better. This is why these kids committed to KU and why I think KU has a lot better shot at holding on to these commitments than most others around the country may think.

It also doesn't hurt at all to see the recognition and success their former teammate/HS competitor, Mike Lee has had at KU already, in addition to having several other guys from The Boot also on KU's team and about to make some noise of their own.

As always, it's a great day to be a Jayhawk and even better that we've got such high quality PEOPLE leading this program in coach Hull and coach Beaty. These players and recruits can see this and how genuine and real these guys are and that's why I think we'll be seeing a lot more W's coming KU's way in the near future too.
Posted by: Kman_blue

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/06/17 01:21 PM

Originally Posted By: dgless21
Originally Posted By: Josh2408
My twitter says he also had offers from OU, Baja and LSU


I don't know about those "offers"...247 showed him with interest from OU, LSU, and Bama.
Yeah, I think they've definitely shown him interest, but as to if they've officially offered him or not is a lot more murky right now.

I won't be surprised one bit though that at least a couple of those schools and a lot more will be offering him officially over the course of this year.
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/06/17 01:26 PM

Originally Posted By: Kman_blue
But...but...but...but...the infallible 247 crystal ball says 100% for LSU!?!?!?

Someone's world must be crumbling a little bit more with each commitment to KU.



This kid is a beast! He's quick, strong as an ox and relentless. All things that make a great DT. I love that he just doesn't stop on any play. That kind of motor you either got or you don't. Check out his highlight videos if you can. I suspect he's gonna have a lot more schools coming after him before it's all said and done.

I also saw(on twitter) someone posted a gif of coach Beaty in the Boot after this commitment and thought it was funny.


Coach Beaty walking down the street of NOLA! LOL

Welcome to the Jayhawk family Mr. Jenkins!!
They are all "verbal" commitments right?
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/06/17 01:37 PM

Google it.
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/06/17 01:40 PM

Originally Posted By: dgless21
Google it.
So we have some verbals until Feb 1 next year...
Posted by: Kman_blue

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/06/17 01:44 PM

Apparently, kuco doesn't know how the recruiting process works now, or is he just trying to sh!t all over our parade still??

I think it's the later.

Trolls be trollin yo!
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/06/17 01:46 PM

If no Mid-December signing period is created for this class, signing day would be on February 7th next year. 366 days to go!
Posted by: Kman_blue

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/06/17 01:49 PM

Originally Posted By: dgless21
If no Mid-December signing period is created for this class, signing day would be on February 7th next year. 366 days to go!
Hearing at least a couple of the current Louisianimal commits will be graduating early next December, so they could be here in January of 2018.
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/06/17 01:50 PM

Originally Posted By: Kman_blue
Originally Posted By: dgless21
If no Mid-December signing period is created for this class, signing day would be on February 7th next year. 366 days to go!
Hearing at least a couple of the current Louisianimal commits will be graduating early next December, so they could be here in January of 2018.

That is an option as well.

I was referring to the proposed December signing day (actually 72 hours) for HS students that will be voted on in April.
Posted by: Kman_blue

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/06/17 01:51 PM

Originally Posted By: dgless21
Originally Posted By: Kman_blue
Originally Posted By: dgless21
If no Mid-December signing period is created for this class, signing day would be on February 7th next year. 366 days to go!
Hearing at least a couple of the current Louisianimal commits will be graduating early next December, so they could be here in January of 2018.


That is an option as well.

I was referring to the proposed December signing day for HS students that will be voted on in April.
Ahhhh, gotcha!
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/06/17 01:56 PM

Interesting bit of "news" here:
http://www2.kusports.com/weblogs/keegan-...landing-one-mo/


Edit: Side note, this is actually more of 2017 recruiting etc.
Posted by: Kman_blue

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/06/17 02:10 PM

Interesting.

Would love to add more to our OL, but I think Adeniji is the real deal and it'd be hard to come in and beat him out for the starting job. Who knows though, maybe Cochran likes the idea of playing alongside another future NFL'er so they can rotate quite a bit and keep each other fresh?? Because, even if Cochran came in and won the starting job, I don't think Adeniji stays off the field for many snaps and I'm not so sure about moving him to the interior despite his increased size post season.
Posted by: Kman_blue

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/06/17 02:12 PM

I also noticed that ColouringKU on twitter sent a really cool pic to Mike Lee "accusing him" of starting this Louisianimal trend at KU with the hashtag #BootBoyz. grin

Posted by: bigdogjac

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/06/17 03:55 PM

Maybe, just maybe, the top notch State of KS and MO HS players better jump on the band wagon while we still have room for them, I have mixed emotions about the Cal kid.
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/06/17 04:03 PM

The Cal kid hasn't made too much communication about where he's looking. I can't find any suggestion that he's considering KU other than Keegan's wishful thinking article.

I agree on the KS and MO kids, but I imagine they'll take things a bit slower than the LA kids that committed with a group of friends and teammates.
Posted by: bigdogjac

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/06/17 04:14 PM

OSU seems to think they are high on his list, but with them just firing their OL coach, I can't see it.
Posted by: jahawker2004

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/06/17 05:18 PM

People have started to notice--

http://usatodayhss.com/2017/kansas-footb...#undefined.uxfs
Posted by: moose1

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/06/17 11:11 PM

Originally Posted By: dgless21
The Cal kid hasn't made too much communication about where he's looking. I can't find any suggestion that he's considering KU other than Keegan's wishful thinking article.

I agree on the KS and MO kids, but I imagine they'll take things a bit slower than the LA kids that committed with a group of friends and teammates.


Maybe Keegan knows something. We all thought Keegan's as out in left field when he mentioned Bender as a potential fit, and Keegan ended up being right.
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/07/17 11:54 AM

We're seemingly just trying to piss off LSU.

We offered current LSU commit Kelvin Joseph today per his twitter.

http://247sports.com/Player/Kelvin-Joseph-88322

WIZ 😈 ‏@_theylovefat 36m
BLESSED TO RECEIVE A OFFER FROM KANSAS UNIVERSITY 😍!!
Posted by: kylecof11

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/07/17 12:22 PM

Originally Posted By: dgless21
We're seemingly just trying to piss off LSU.

We offered current LSU commit Kelvin Joseph today per his twitter.

http://247sports.com/Player/Kelvin-Joseph-88322

WIZ 😈 ‏@_theylovefat 36m
BLESSED TO RECEIVE A OFFER FROM KANSAS UNIVERSITY 😍!!


Hell, why not? Worked for the other guys. I think LSU is used to having their guys in the bag, and they'll be pissed that they'll actually have to work for them.
Posted by: vmlb

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/07/17 12:41 PM

Originally Posted By: moose1
Originally Posted By: dgless21
The Cal kid hasn't made too much communication about where he's looking. I can't find any suggestion that he's considering KU other than Keegan's wishful thinking article.

I agree on the KS and MO kids, but I imagine they'll take things a bit slower than the LA kids that committed with a group of friends and teammates.


Maybe Keegan knows something. We all thought Keegan's as out in left field when he mentioned Bender as a potential fit, and Keegan ended up being right.


It will take a couple years to come to the conclusion that Keegan was right.
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/07/17 01:20 PM

Originally Posted By: vmlb
It will take a couple years to come to the conclusion that Keegan was right.

I think the point was more that no one knew we were after Bender when Keegan posted his article. Within a few days, Bender was visiting. He was "right" for writing an article about Bender even though it was seemingly out of left field.

The suggestion is that Keegan may know something all of us don't about Aaron Cochran, and Keegan's article is giving us a hint of something to come again.
Posted by: Kman_blue

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/07/17 01:37 PM

I noticed the New Orleans Times-Picayune had a nice story up about KU's recent Louisiana recruiting successes.

NOLA.com story on KU football recruiting

Seemed like a really good write up and the writer has talked to both some of the recruits and some of their family members which added more authenticity to the piece IMHO.

I also noticed Saturday night and on into Sunday they also had another writer updating and following live the KU recruiting successes while it was happening on twitter. She even posted a couple short pieces on NOLA.com too I believe. They really seem to be on top on this and both seem to think that KU's success isn't a fluke and will stick. Love the added positive publicity this gives us down in The Boot and NOLA.
Posted by: Kman_blue

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/07/17 01:47 PM

Originally Posted By: dgless21
We're seemingly just trying to piss off LSU.

We offered current LSU commit Kelvin Joseph today per his twitter.

http://247sports.com/Player/Kelvin-Joseph-88322

WIZ 😈 ‏@_theylovefat 36m
BLESSED TO RECEIVE A OFFER FROM KANSAS UNIVERSITY 😍!!
Someone told me Kenan Jones has been retweeting a bunch of KU stuff and now follows some KU coaches on twitter. May just mean he's happy for his friends, but who knows, maybe he's still thinking about joining them in committing to KU too?

Heard in a roundabout way(came from a 3rd party source) from a friend that KU had the attention of a lot of recruits down in Louisiana before all this happened and now after the weekend KU has moved up even higher on a lot of their lists. Several recruits currently without KU offers down in The Boot now hoping for one.

Exciting times for KU football for sure right now!
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/07/17 01:55 PM

247 team point avg of 86.xx for the Kansas verbals for 2018 is a much lower score than for any team ranked in the top 30 for 2017 team recruiting. Just sayin'...all talk no walk yet. Hopefully we do the walk as I root for the Hawks
Posted by: Kman_blue

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/07/17 02:13 PM

Sure you do.

Their listed average is f'd up. It's 89.73 if you include Tune who's composite rating is based solely off of Rivals preliminary rating he received just yesterday. If you don't include him until he at least has a rating from everyone 247 uses to get to their composite then the average is 90.68.

Oh, and even if you take their currently wrong average of 86.91, you must have missed the current averages for Miss. St., BYU, Wisconsin, and Colorado, all of whom have lower averages with CU and BYU being MUCH lower. Yet all in 247's top 30 right now.

Sure you root for the Hawks, sure you do.
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/07/17 02:19 PM

Too much dumbfuckery in his post to address it.

KU football has a top ten recruiting class. No complaints here.

To address your comments Kman - the 247 average is skewed because Jenkins has no rating and 247 assigns him a 0.7000. The other six players average 89.73.
Posted by: Kman_blue

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/07/17 02:26 PM

Originally Posted By: dgless21
Too much dumbfuckery in his post to address it.

KU football has a top ten recruiting class. No complaints here.
LOL

Yet, all he can do is complain!

Just for some more fun, if you include Jenkins' rumored preliminary rating in our team totals, then KU currently has the #4 ranked class in the nation!

No complaints from me either. I'll take a top 5 recruiting class for KU every year!
Posted by: guscat

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/07/17 02:43 PM

Isn't the assistant Hull who recruited these Louisiana players angling for a job at LSU? Would hate to see him use this class as a calling card to the Tigers, and take these recruits with him.
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/07/17 02:59 PM

I truly doubt you would hate it.

It is an interesting conspiracy theory, though. Especially as much of NOLA is unhappy with LSU at the moment.

https://www.seccountry.com/lsu/new-orleans-area-coaches-considering-boycott-lsu

I've read they're pursuing Tommie Robinson from USC and Mickey Joseph from LA Tech.

http://www.theadvertiser.com/story/sport..._medium=twitter
Posted by: EstebanBugatti

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/07/17 03:25 PM

Sounds like Harris and Jason are planning on being December grads. Just a few less months KU has to worry about them flipping. Though Harris said that they are looking forward to telling coaches that they are solid on KU.
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/07/17 03:26 PM

Originally Posted By: Kman_blue
Originally Posted By: dgless21
Too much dumbfuckery in his post to address it.

KU football has a top ten recruiting class. No complaints here.
LOL

Yet, all he can do is complain!

Just for some more fun, if you include Jenkins' rumored preliminary rating in our team totals, then KU currently has the #4 ranked class in the nation!

No complaints from me either. I'll take a top 5 recruiting class for KU every year!
My point is this is WAY too much time until signings for Beaty to break his arm patting hisself on the back. If Kansas is a top ten recruiting class for 2018 closer to THAT Feb, I will stop posting here forever. Take that to the bank...

I was comparing the majority of 2017 team recruiting point avgs to the current one for Kansas for 2018. Still too early to see where we fall for any glitter spouting from the pair of unicorns.
Posted by: bigdogjac

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/07/17 03:43 PM

Kuco, can I set up a direct deposit on that?
Posted by: track

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/07/17 04:06 PM

Typical cuco....."If Kansas is a top ten recruiting class for 2018 closer to THAT Feb, I will stop posting here forever."
KU fans will be ecstatic if KU has a top ten recruiting class in 2018....but not you. You will leave the forum. Sounds about right.....you will hate it when Beaty turns KU into a winning program so much you will just leave the forum and go sulk. The truth comes out.
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/07/17 04:13 PM

Originally Posted By: bigdogjac
Kuco, can I set up a direct deposit on that?
LOL 😂 Sure
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/07/17 04:18 PM

Originally Posted By: track
Typical cuco....."If Kansas is a top ten recruiting class for 2018 closer to THAT Feb, I will stop posting here forever."
KU fans will be ecstatic if KU has a top ten recruiting class in 2018....but not you. You will leave the forum. Sounds about right.....you will hate it when Beaty turns KU into a winning program so much you will just leave the forum and go sulk. The truth comes out.
Marsha! Eat a snickers!

I would be totally on board if top ten in 2018. Even with Ohio State, Auburn, Alabama...but com'n, we are Kansas!! Get some humor going or you will be a bitter old man.

Kinda sound like it today.
Posted by: jayhawkfan0710

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/07/17 05:01 PM

New Orleans area coaches are getting ready to boycott LSU for the handling of the running back coach who was reassigned an off field role after signing day. (Who also recruited New Orleans.). Time for KU to land a couple more "boot boys"
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/07/17 06:33 PM

LSU has officially filled its RB and WR coaching positions.

Coach Hull was (obviously) not hired by LSU.

https://www.seccountry.com/lsu/lsu-hires...m_medium=Social
Posted by: appyhawk

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/07/17 07:13 PM

Look like solid hires. Good for them.
I see LSU snagged the #7 class this year. Here's to OUR La recruiter continuing his stellar work at building one Hull of a 2018 class for good ole KU.
Posted by: Kman_blue

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/07/17 07:30 PM

Originally Posted By: guscat
Isn't the assistant Hull who recruited these Louisiana players angling for a job at LSU? Would hate to see him use this class as a calling card to the Tigers, and take these recruits with him.
Yeah you purple pig farmers would love for that to be true.

If you know anything at all about coach Hull, ever met him, ever talked to him, ever heard him talk then you'd know that's not the kind of guy coach Hull is.

If you actually needed more proof that's not the case, he also actually had a reputation of greatly disliking LSU down in NOLA. In terms you may understand, it'd be like you angling to have a job at KU cause that's where you really wanted to be.
Posted by: Kman_blue

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/07/17 07:36 PM

Originally Posted By: EstebanBugatti
Sounds like Harris and Jason are planning on being December grads. Just a few less months KU has to worry about them flipping. Though Harris said that they are looking forward to telling coaches that they are solid on KU.
Heard Tune is also going to be an early enrollee.
Posted by: moose1

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/07/17 09:56 PM

Originally Posted By: dgless21
Originally Posted By: vmlb
It will take a couple years to come to the conclusion that Keegan was right.

I think the point was more that no one knew we were after Bender when Keegan posted his article. Within a few days, Bender was visiting. He was "right" for writing an article about Bender even though it was seemingly out of left field.

The suggestion is that Keegan may know something all of us don't about Aaron Cochran, and Keegan's article is giving us a hint of something to come again.


Bingo.
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/08/17 09:41 AM

David Beaty ‏@beaty_david
Excited to announce Tony Hull has been promoted to Associate Head Coach!! He definitely #EarnedIt!!!

Let's keep working @coachtonyhull!!

https://twitter.com/beaty_david/status/829351624065839111
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/08/17 09:43 AM

Cartez Crook Jones ‏@CrookCartez 1h
Tomorrow going to a big decision in my life


Methinks we're getting another commit tomorrow.

https://n.rivals.com/content/prospects/183163
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/08/17 10:33 AM

Originally Posted By: dgless21
David Beaty ‏@beaty_david
Excited to announce Tony Hull has been promoted to Associate Head Coach!! He definitely #EarnedIt!!!

Let's keep working @coachtonyhull!!

https://twitter.com/beaty_david/status/829351624065839111
If all you need to do to double your salary at Kansas is win one game, why not make Hull HC for a Day?
Posted by: kylecof11

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/08/17 10:44 AM

Do yourself a favor and just lay low for a while. This is the brightest present/future that KU has had in about 8 years. And I've never seen any KU fan think that what has happened from November on consistently [censored] and moan like some fan above that calls themselves a devoted fan. Every single TRUE fan that I've seen on twitter, facebook, and national writers are starting to realize that Kansas football is building something here. There are national stories on this.. In FEBRUARY!!!! The middle of basketball season! Get outta here with that nonsensical babble, troll crap that you bring to this board every freaking day.
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/08/17 11:01 AM

Posted by: Hot_Toddy

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/08/17 11:32 AM

Originally Posted By: kylecof11
Do yourself a favor and just lay low for a while. This is the brightest present/future that KU has had in about 8 years. And I've never seen any KU fan think that what has happened from November on consistently [censored] and moan like some fan above that calls themselves a devoted fan. Every single TRUE fan that I've seen on twitter, facebook, and national writers are starting to realize that Kansas football is building something here. There are national stories on this.. In FEBRUARY!!!! The middle of basketball season! Get outta here with that nonsensical babble, troll crap that you bring to this board every freaking day.


KUCO_VOC is seriously the worst. I've come to the conclusion he's either a troll deeply committed to his craft or he suffers from Catastrophic Thinking. Catastrophic Thinking is when your mind clings to worst-case scenarios.

Nonetheless, I just found a way to ignore all of KUCO_VOC's message board posts going forward. I just can't believe I didn't discover this message board tool sooner.

Directions:
- click on the KUCO_VOC user name on any of his posts.
- from the drop down list, select "view profile.
- click "Ignore this user".

Problem solved.
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/08/17 11:41 AM

Originally Posted By: kylecof11
Do yourself a favor and just lay low for a while. This is the brightest present/future that KU has had in about 8 years. And I've never seen any KU fan think that what has happened from November on consistently [censored] and moan like some fan above that calls themselves a devoted fan. Every single TRUE fan that I've seen on twitter, facebook, and national writers are starting to realize that Kansas football is building something here. There are national stories on this.. In FEBRUARY!!!! The middle of basketball season! Get outta here with that nonsensical babble, troll crap that you bring to this board every freaking day.
Be glad I don't challenge you to a duel out back of the 7-11 on Sixth St. My realistic view is tempered by the days of The Dream Team recruiting several years back. They have to get into class, onto the field, and then they give us hope. Sorry you Dreamers (kyle) are getting shriller by the frickin' minute.

Actually, brightest future/present since 6 years ago when we were ranked 42th natl for the 2011 recruits. Then it tailed off in 2012. Not 8 years ago like your first football related comment in your above post. Let's try to focus on Kansas football, not the posters here.
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/08/17 11:43 AM

Originally Posted By: Hot_Toddy
Originally Posted By: kylecof11
Do yourself a favor and just lay low for a while. This is the brightest present/future that KU has had in about 8 years. And I've never seen any KU fan think that what has happened from November on consistently [censored] and moan like some fan above that calls themselves a devoted fan. Every single TRUE fan that I've seen on twitter, facebook, and national writers are starting to realize that Kansas football is building something here. There are national stories on this.. In FEBRUARY!!!! The middle of basketball season! Get outta here with that nonsensical babble, troll crap that you bring to this board every freaking day.


KUCO_VOC is seriously the worst. I've come to the conclusion he's either a troll deeply committed to his craft or he suffers from Catastrophic Thinking. Catastrophic Thinking is when your mind clings to worst-case scenarios.

Nonetheless, I just found a way to ignore all of KUCO_VOC's message board posts going forward. I just can't believe I didn't discover this message board tool sooner.

Directions:
- click on the KUCO_VOC user name on any of his posts.
- from the drop down list, select "view profile.
- click "Ignore this user".

Problem solved.

But yet here you are responding to my "trollness"...

Thank you for the two KUCO posts in 2017. Your only posts so far. Not too obsessed.
Posted by: 58hawk

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/08/17 12:24 PM

Originally Posted By: dgless21
David Beaty ‏@beaty_david
Excited to announce Tony Hull has been promoted to Associate Head Coach!! He definitely #EarnedIt!!!

Let's keep working @coachtonyhull!!

https://twitter.com/beaty_david/status/829351624065839111
Don't think he had a choice. Beaty didn't want to see him poached by LSU or some other P5 /SEC team. But he deserves it.
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/08/17 01:15 PM



WIZ 😈 ‏@_theylovefat
Kansas visit otw 🔥
Posted by: Kman_blue

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/08/17 01:25 PM

I thought Crook-Jones seemed to be the most hyped about KU's Jr. Day early on. I really hope we can secure his commitment also, as I think he could be a real stud in our D.

I've also been told Kelvin is good friends with a couple of our current #BootBoyz #JayCrew18 commits. Looks like he's gonna come up and see for himself what KU football is all about and make a decision about his commitment. This would be another HUGE deal for us if he flipped!

Man, this has been probably the most exciting and positive off-season I can ever remember and it's still early February!! Spring ball outta be lit too!
Posted by: Kman_blue

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/08/17 01:33 PM

Originally Posted By: dgless21
David Beaty ‏@beaty_david
Excited to announce Tony Hull has been promoted to Associate Head Coach!! He definitely #EarnedIt!!!

Let's keep working @coachtonyhull!!

https://twitter.com/beaty_david/status/829351624065839111
The man has certainly earnedit!! He's been doing serious work here at KU. I hope he comes to feel that Lawrence is just as much home for him in the long run as NOLA has been and stays here for a long long time. I truly believe coach Beaty feels this way, just about as much as coach Fam did. Nobody could feel it as much or more than coach Fam IMHO!!

I'd recommend that for anyone who doesn't know much about him to go look up his videos from the local NOLA HS football show where he was a regular to get a sense of the man. He's an impressive guy and good coach to listen to and those videos give you a really good feel for him.
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/08/17 04:17 PM

If by one win and some verbal non binding 2018 recruits, you think someone earned it. Then yes!!
Posted by: AlOerter

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/08/17 04:37 PM

I just remember a short time ago how disappointed I was when we lost Reggie Mitchell. An unknown high school coach from NOLA? This guy has been lights out as a recruiter, even if he only got us Mike Lee. Now if he can coach up this nice crop of RB's I will be absolutely thrilled.
Posted by: bigdogjac

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/08/17 05:54 PM

Look out Kuco, you are letting your guard down a little. LOL!
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/09/17 05:12 AM

Originally Posted By: bigdogjac
Look out Kuco, you are letting your guard down a little. LOL!
My sense of all the promotions and raises for staff is that it's only a little while until the chancellor is replaced. Then the lack of on field success up until 2017 will be analyzed all over again. If Hull, a running backs coach, is promoted in a Air Raid offense, I tend to be puzzled. Aren't we a QB WRs dominated offense? Hey it's earned!!
Posted by: bigdogjac

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/09/17 07:00 AM

I feel like Hull will still be the RB coach and we will remain a air raid offense.. The title change is a way to justify the raise that he deserves.
Posted by: kylecof11

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/09/17 08:05 AM

Big salary increase from $150K to $400K with the move. Holy smokes.
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/09/17 08:23 AM

Originally Posted By: kylecof11
Big salary increase from $150K to $400K with the move. Holy smokes.


He went from dead last in the Big 12 to 25th or so (depending on what we pay Meacham).

As it was discussed that LSU (or others) may poach him, for comparison sake, LSU had at least six assistant coaches making over 450k last year.
Posted by: kylecof11

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/09/17 08:51 AM

Yeah, even with all the increased money towards assistants for this program, it's still not close to the top tier compared with other programs at the P5 level.

But anytime you are able to almost triple your salary after a year at a spot, you are a happy, happy man. Hull mentioned something a while back about how no matter how comfortable and awesome New Orleans and Louisiana are, there are better things out there. I think he mentioned something about a lot of people having to relocate Katrina or something along those lines and then never going back.
I think Hull (when he got hired) and a lot of these kids from the Boot that come up to Lawrence to visit realize that Lawrence, and Kansas (except for the western half) isn't all that bad.
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/09/17 09:03 AM

On the JayhawkSlant Podcast, it sounded like *right now* Mario Goodrich is between KU and Nebraska.

Also sounds like Khristian Boyd has a family of KU fans--which can't hurt.

It sounds like it is fortuitous that Pinkel is out and Mizzou is down with the talent in Missouri this year...although it is very early in the process.

https://kansas.rivals.com/news/podcast-special-guest-david-beaty-with-lots-of-recruiting-talk
Posted by: vmlb

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/09/17 01:32 PM

Don't forget. He is not doing this to "make money". He would have never left his old job had "making money" been his goal. While I believe he should be paid well, I'm not worried that he will take a job at another school to get a pay raise. Other factors will be the reason for him leaving.
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/09/17 01:48 PM

Speaking of money, did anyone ever see the terms of the Meacham deal?
Posted by: bigdogjac

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/09/17 02:58 PM

Kyle, Western KS has a beauty of its own.
Posted by: John_Brown

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/09/17 03:31 PM

Originally Posted By: bigdogjac
Kyle, Western KS has a beauty of its own.


Definitely true. It's different, but it has a kinda freedom to it you only feel out on the High Plains.

Rock Chalk Jayhawk, Beat Mizzou
Posted by: kylecof11

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/09/17 03:41 PM

Originally Posted By: bigdogjac
Kyle, Western KS has a beauty of its own.


I hear you, in a very small way. I got family that was raised in SW Kansas and still have some family members out that way. I go around that area a few times a year. So bland. I do like to go there to escape life for a bit, considering there isn't much to do there and you almost have to force yourself to relax out there.
Posted by: John_Brown

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/09/17 03:48 PM

Originally Posted By: kylecof11
Originally Posted By: bigdogjac
Kyle, Western KS has a beauty of its own.


I hear you, in a very small way. I got family that was raised in SW Kansas and still have some family members out that way. I go around that area a few times a year. So bland. I do like to go there to escape life for a bit, considering there isn't much to do there and you almost have to force yourself to relax out there.


A long time ago on this board, we had a discussion on where Western Kansas began. KCers felt anything west of Topeka. Salinians thought Hays. Hays thought Quinter and so on til you got to Goodland. Folks from Goodland said they weren't from Western Kansas but rather a far eastern suburb of Denver. Made me laugh. Western Kansas is hard to define. But it has a toughness and a sense of freedom that I enjoy.

Rock Chalk Jayhawk, Beat Mizzou
Posted by: kylecof11

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/09/17 03:56 PM

Y'all. Beaty just did another #NealDeal
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/09/17 04:00 PM

Originally Posted By: kylecof11
Y'all. Beaty just did another #NealDeal


Cartez Crook Jones

Cartez Crook Jones ‏@CrookCartez 2m
I'm happy to say I'll continue my education and football career at Kansas university #earnit

https://n.rivals.com/content/prospects/183163

Article: https://kansas.rivals.com/news/jayhawks-get-commit-from-cartez-crook-jones
Posted by: kylecof11

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/09/17 04:21 PM

A pretty good get. A lot of teams were coming on late for him. Arkansas, KState and Missouri were interested but no offers as of yet.
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/09/17 04:41 PM

It's good to hear Beaty talk a bunch on recruiting for 2018. But let's hope he can do some walking in 2017, you know? The HS juniors want to see some coaching chops in the near future. So do the fanbase (including me!). Go Hawks.

We've earnedit
Posted by: Kman_blue

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/09/17 06:19 PM

KU now ranked the #5 recruiting class in the nation and that still doesn't include Tune, who doesn't have a rating yet.

Team Rankings

If Tune gets his still rumored initial rating, then KU's recruiting class would now be the #2 class in the nation!

Welcome to the JAYHAWK FAMILY Cartez!!
Posted by: track

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/09/17 06:29 PM

Originally Posted By: Kman_blue
KU now ranked the #5 recruiting class in the nation and that still doesn't include Tune, who doesn't have a rating yet.

Team Rankings

If Tune gets his still rumored initial rating, then KU's recruiting class would now be the #2 class in the nation!

Welcome to the JAYHAWK FAMILY Cartez!!

Great stuff. If we stay even in the top 30 by next feb it would be a major achievement.....cuckoos worst nightmare.
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/09/17 06:44 PM

Unrelated to dipshit or KU's recruiting...

But it disgusts me that Penn State has the number one recruiting class...or a football program in general.
Posted by: 58hawk

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/09/17 06:44 PM

Originally Posted By: track
Originally Posted By: Kman_blue
KU now ranked the #5 recruiting class in the nation and that still doesn't include Tune, who doesn't have a rating yet.

Team Rankings

If Tune gets his still rumored initial rating, then KU's recruiting class would now be the #2 class in the nation!

Welcome to the JAYHAWK FAMILY Cartez!!

Great stuff. If we stay even in the top 30 by next feb it would be a major achievement.....cuckoos worst nightmare.
Watch cuckoo come on board when this training gets a Rollin. He'll then try and take credit for it!
Posted by: Kman_blue

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/09/17 07:17 PM

Originally Posted By: track
Originally Posted By: Kman_blue
KU now ranked the #5 recruiting class in the nation and that still doesn't include Tune, who doesn't have a rating yet.

Team Rankings

If Tune gets his still rumored initial rating, then KU's recruiting class would now be the #2 class in the nation!

Welcome to the JAYHAWK FAMILY Cartez!!

Great stuff. If we stay even in the top 30 by next feb it would be a major achievement.....cuckoos worst nightmare.
If you think this is great, the #1 recruit in the state of Louisiana, Kelvin Joseph, is planning a visit up to KU now (someone told me they thought it was going to be this weekend, but nobody else I know said this is true). If KU flipped him, KU's ranking would be right on the heel of Penn. St. for #1 in the nation!
Posted by: bigdogjac

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/09/17 07:30 PM

And the beat goes on!
Posted by: Goober

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/09/17 08:28 PM

Originally Posted By: kylecof11
Yeah, even with all the increased money towards assistants for this program, it's still not close to the top tier compared with other programs at the P5 level.

But anytime you are able to almost triple your salary after a year at a spot, you are a happy, happy man. Hull mentioned something a while back about how no matter how comfortable and awesome New Orleans and Louisiana are, there are better things out there. I think he mentioned something about a lot of people having to relocate Katrina or something along those lines and then never going back.
I think Hull (when he got hired) and a lot of these kids from the Boot that come up to Lawrence to visit realize that Lawrence, and Kansas (except for the western half) isn't all that bad.

One of the best things about Western Kansas? No snooty Eastern Kansas people! wink
Posted by: vmlb

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/09/17 08:56 PM

Originally Posted By: Goober
Originally Posted By: kylecof11
Yeah, even with all the increased money towards assistants for this program, it's still not close to the top tier compared with other programs at the P5 level.

But anytime you are able to almost triple your salary after a year at a spot, you are a happy, happy man. Hull mentioned something a while back about how no matter how comfortable and awesome New Orleans and Louisiana are, there are better things out there. I think he mentioned something about a lot of people having to relocate Katrina or something along those lines and then never going back.
I think Hull (when he got hired) and a lot of these kids from the Boot that come up to Lawrence to visit realize that Lawrence, and Kansas (except for the western half) isn't all that bad.

One of the best things about Western Kansas? No snooty Eastern Kansas people! wink


Speaking on behalf of us Kansans who live west of Manhattan, you guys who live east of Manhattan are snooty. Take that!!
Posted by: moose1

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/09/17 09:03 PM

I am pumped for the class, but I will take it with a grain of salt until they are signed. KU has had some good players give verbals and then back out. That said this has a better feel. I think they will or most will sign with KU.
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/10/17 09:21 AM

Originally Posted By: 58hawk
Originally Posted By: track
Originally Posted By: Kman_blue
KU now ranked the #5 recruiting class in the nation and that still doesn't include Tune, who doesn't have a rating yet.

Team Rankings

If Tune gets his still rumored initial rating, then KU's recruiting class would now be the #2 class in the nation!

Welcome to the JAYHAWK FAMILY Cartez!!

Great stuff. If we stay even in the top 30 by next feb it would be a major achievement.....cuckoos worst nightmare.
Watch cuckoo come on board when this training gets a Rollin. He'll then try and take credit for it!
Im already on board if Kansas can win some games with our coaching. And recruit a good team. Dglessdipshit says it's so already...
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/10/17 09:24 AM

Originally Posted By: vmlb
Originally Posted By: Goober
Originally Posted By: kylecof11
Yeah, even with all the increased money towards assistants for this program, it's still not close to the top tier compared with other programs at the P5 level.

But anytime you are able to almost triple your salary after a year at a spot, you are a happy, happy man. Hull mentioned something a while back about how no matter how comfortable and awesome New Orleans and Louisiana are, there are better things out there. I think he mentioned something about a lot of people having to relocate Katrina or something along those lines and then never going back.
I think Hull (when he got hired) and a lot of these kids from the Boot that come up to Lawrence to visit realize that Lawrence, and Kansas (except for the western half) isn't all that bad.

One of the best things about Western Kansas? No snooty Eastern Kansas people! wink


Speaking on behalf of us Kansans who live west of Manhattan, you guys who live east of Manhattan are snooty. Take that!!
Im west with the best as well. Dipsticks to the east can go have their green tea and crumpets now.
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/10/17 09:27 AM

Originally Posted By: track
Originally Posted By: Kman_blue
KU now ranked the #5 recruiting class in the nation and that still doesn't include Tune, who doesn't have a rating yet.

Team Rankings

If Tune gets his still rumored initial rating, then KU's recruiting class would now be the #2 class in the nation!

Welcome to the JAYHAWK FAMILY Cartez!!

Great stuff. If we stay even in the top 30 by next feb it would be a major achievement.....cuckoos worst nightmare.
This would be the real Dream Team if we keep them all happy. Hope is eternal.
Posted by: track

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/10/17 09:51 AM

Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
Originally Posted By: track
Originally Posted By: Kman_blue
KU now ranked the #5 recruiting class in the nation and that still doesn't include Tune, who doesn't have a rating yet.

Team Rankings

If Tune gets his still rumored initial rating, then KU's recruiting class would now be the #2 class in the nation!

Welcome to the JAYHAWK FAMILY Cartez!!

Great stuff. If we stay even in the top 30 by next feb it would be a major achievement.....cuckoos worst nightmare.
This would be the real Dream Team if we keep them all happy. Hope is eternal.

Listened to coach Hull on 810 this morning....impressive guy and a former high school coach. He said the positive nature of KU fans was a big factor in why he was able to get the LA kids to commit. He said kids read the stuff on social media and the fans are so positive at KU compared to other schools where they nitpick the recruits. He also mentioned the close knit nature of the coaching staff and the family atmosphere coach Beaty has created which is important to LA kids. Hmmmm....hope they don't read cuckoos posts.
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/10/17 10:39 AM

Track - creates nitpicking issues with KUCO constantly. I tend to be MUCH more positive about my team while you pick on posters with a critical eye. I sincerely doubt any kid looks at your constant whining as a decision factor on where to land after HS. I haven't picked upon any recruit for his HS efforts. The RB who was here to pick up some great looking apparel is a great prospect but was NEVER sincerely looking to waste his #1 - 10 ranking at Kansas.
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/10/17 10:46 AM

Anyone who has read on here day to day knows he adds nothing to the board. He's no better than the KSU/OU/etc twitter accounts that troll our players on twitter.

I can't say I disagree with the posters who suggest putting him on ignore. It makes this board much easier to read.
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/10/17 10:57 AM

Back to recruiting:

Titus Jones out of (you guessed it) NOLA picked up an offer yesterday. We're his first offer.

https://n.rivals.com/content/prospects/184604

http://www.hudl.com/profile/7065281/titus-jones

6'3" 260 rival or 6'3" 265 on HUDL. Unrated.
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/10/17 11:15 AM

Originally Posted By: dgless21
Anyone who has read on here day to day knows he adds nothing to the board. He's no better than the KSU/OU/etc twitter accounts that troll our players on twitter.

I can't say I disagree with the posters who suggest putting him on ignore. It makes this board much easier to read.
Yet here you are calling me a dipshit and flaming me right now.

As far as contributing here, you are dead wrong. I called it (BS) on the Cali RB & mom NOT choosing Kansas. Why? You were all excited by his wearing Kansas knickers. Give me a break!
Posted by: AlOerter

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/10/17 04:26 PM

Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
Originally Posted By: vmlb
Originally Posted By: Goober
Originally Posted By: kylecof11
Yeah, even with all the increased money towards assistants for this program, it's still not close to the top tier compared with other programs at the P5 level.

But anytime you are able to almost triple your salary after a year at a spot, you are a happy, happy man. Hull mentioned something a while back about how no matter how comfortable and awesome New Orleans and Louisiana are, there are better things out there. I think he mentioned something about a lot of people having to relocate Katrina or something along those lines and then never going back.
I think Hull (when he got hired) and a lot of these kids from the Boot that come up to Lawrence to visit realize that Lawrence, and Kansas (except for the western half) isn't all that bad.

One of the best things about Western Kansas? No snooty Eastern Kansas people! wink


Speaking on behalf of us Kansans who live west of Manhattan, you guys who live east of Manhattan are snooty. Take that!!
Im west with the best as well. Dipsticks to the east can go have their green tea and crumpets now.


Mount Oread rises majestically in the east.
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/10/17 04:27 PM

It would appear that we have offered:

Owen Condon from Bishop McGuiness in OKC.

6'7", 270, 3 star OL

https://n.rivals.com/content/prospects/2205

Looks like we actually offered in late January...but he tweeted out a #RockChalk #JayCrew18 with an emoji of himself in a Jayhawk uniform. Can't be too bad of a thing.
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/10/17 04:33 PM

Originally Posted By: Kman_blue
KU now ranked the #5 recruiting class in the nation and that still doesn't include Tune, who doesn't have a rating yet.

Team Rankings

If Tune gets his still rumored initial rating, then KU's recruiting class would now be the #2 class in the nation!

Welcome to the JAYHAWK FAMILY Cartez!!
I have to say you are the eternal optimist on this board. A refreshing breeze that washes away the reality called Kansas Football. Kudos kman!
Posted by: AlOerter

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/10/17 05:45 PM

Any relation to Tom Condon?
Posted by: tulsahawk13

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/10/17 07:46 PM

Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
The RB who was here to pick up some great looking apparel is a great prospect but was NEVER sincerely looking to waste his #1 - 10 ranking at Kansas.
http://247sports.com/Article/Homeless-Abused-Angry-Najee-Harris-unsteady-path-to-Alabama-50936595 To paraphrase the part relevant to us; coaches coach, players play, you can go to Kansas and get to the league.
Posted by: INation

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/10/17 07:49 PM

I thought Beaty was this great recruiter. Hopefully he can start to match Hull's recruiting soon.
Posted by: Goober

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/10/17 10:39 PM

He recruited Tony Hull. That was a #neatdeal.
Posted by: Kman_blue

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/10/17 11:30 PM

Originally Posted By: AlOerter
Any relation to Tom Condon?
I'm not 100% sure on this one, but I think Tom is his grandfather. Don't quote me on that, but that's the gossipy type info (obviously not too reliable) I heard.

And love your signature quote! Great movie, great actor, and great line!

I like the full line even a little better, "It's not right; this damn woman doing something like this to me. I used to have power. Now old age is creeping up on me." LOL


Another few good quotes from that movie, and there's a lot of them IMHO, is "He's from Missouri, where they're all known to be killers of innocent men, women and children."

"Anything from Missouri has a taint about it."
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/11/17 10:32 AM

Originally Posted By: Kman_blue
Originally Posted By: AlOerter
Any relation to Tom Condon?
I'm not 100% sure on this one, but I think Tom is his grandfather. Don't quote me on that, but that's the gossipy type info (obviously not too reliable) I heard.

And love your signature quote! Great movie, great actor, and great line!

I like the full line even a little better, "It's not right; this damn woman doing something like this to me. I used to have power. Now old age is creeping up on me." LOL


Another few good quotes from that movie, and there's a lot of them IMHO, is "He's from Missouri, where they're all known to be killers of innocent men, women and children."

"Anything from Missouri has a taint about it."
"Rules! Pi33 on your fukin' rules!" from One Flew Over The Cookoo's Nest movie is another quickie...
Posted by: bigdogjac

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/11/17 07:04 PM

Anybody in for visits this weekend?
Posted by: Kman_blue

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/11/17 09:58 PM

Originally Posted By: bigdogjac
Anybody in for visits this weekend?
Don't think so.

I believe KU's next Junior Day will be in March, but have heard a few recruits plan on making unofficial visits to KU during their Spring Breaks too. I imagine they and some others will be visiting some spring practices as well.
Posted by: AlOerter

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/11/17 10:05 PM

Recruiting excitement for KU football. "Boy, is this great!"
Posted by: Kman_blue

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/12/17 01:11 AM

Just imagining flounder saying that in Anderson made me chuckle!
Posted by: vmlb

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/12/17 03:18 PM

Originally Posted By: bigdogjac
Anybody in for visits this weekend?


No game in Allen means no visits.
Posted by: Kman_blue

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/12/17 05:04 PM

Looks like Rivals just rated Tune and now KU's currently as the #2 ranked football recruiting class in the nation! grin



Rivals 2018 Team Rankings
Posted by: Kman_blue

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/12/17 05:04 PM

In case you had trouble seeing the 1st pic, here's a closer one! LOL

Posted by: Goober

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/12/17 07:50 PM

The Spun reporting that 4 star WR JaMarr Chase has decomitted from KU and has reopened his recruiting.
Posted by: pizzanbeer

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/12/17 08:15 PM

Originally Posted By: Goober
The Spun reporting that 4 star WR JaMarr Chase has decomitted from KU and has reopened his recruiting.


Chase said his parents talked him out of it. Beaty had the same problem with Zac McKinney when his Dad talked him out of it. We need to do a better job with getting the parents onboard too.
Posted by: Goober

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/12/17 08:29 PM

Its going to be hard to hold them all. The big dogs will lead with, "why would you want to go to Kansas when you could come here? How many games they won, son?" The staff will have to work every bit as hard to hold them as they have in recruiting them . Maybe harder.
Posted by: INation

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/12/17 08:46 PM

Fun while it lasted.
Posted by: appyhawk

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/12/17 10:01 PM

One guy decommits and now it's doom and gloom?
Paleeze...
We still have 7 fine players in our new class and we've barely begun the process. I think there's more good things in the works. No need, nor justification, for any tears or fears. We're on our way to making a big jump with this class added to the class we have for this year. Things haven't looked this good for KUfball for a looong time!
Posted by: PbBut

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/12/17 10:18 PM

100% correct, Appy. And BTW, if he is the last of these early Louisiana commits to bail, that will be an even bigger surprise. At this point I'm looking positively at the fact that the staff and facilities got him to say "Yes" in the first place. That is a big step up. We didn't begin to get this kind of response even coming off an Orange Bowl win.

If a year from now the recruiting class of 2017 looks like little or no progress has been made in upgrading the overall talent level, well that's a different story.
Posted by: moose1

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/12/17 10:24 PM

There is a long way to go. He may end up saying yes. Other kids may decommit. Who knows? As I said earlier I think this has a different feel, and I think it should be a good class.

If it were my kid I would tell him to wait to commit. If he got caught up in the moment then he should decommit, and put some more thought into the decision. It is a huge decision, and it deserves some thought.
Posted by: Maximus

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/13/17 09:19 AM

Better Power 5 Conference team show up when their other recruits signed elsewhere. Ja’Marr Chase. He'll probably end up red shirting, get stuck behind a freshman his junior year look to transfer to all those who express interest before or a junior college for his sophomore year.

Be nice to recruits when they decommitted or commit elsewhere and you may got 1 out of 20 to open up possibilities of joining the team later.


Looks like a nice college WR but there are others out there like him. He's not going to be a Heisman Candidate or NFL bound.

Posted by: 58hawk

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/13/17 10:25 AM

We didn't begin to get this kind of response even coming off an Orange Bowl win.

Bingo.
Posted by: vmlb

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/13/17 10:42 AM

Seems like the parents are wise. Look at all your options, then decide. He might still decide to join the Jayhawk nation. What's the rush?
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/13/17 10:47 AM

Originally Posted By: vmlb
Seems like the parents are wise. Look at all your options, then decide. He might still decide to join the Jayhawk nation. What's the rush?


There isn't a rush. Chances are he felt peer pressure as his friends committed and he chose to commit, as he said, due to emotions.

He's 17 or 18 with 20+ D1 offers, and he has every right to hear them out.

We still have a badass class, and we still have 5 of his friends telling him that KU is the right fit for him.
Posted by: vmlb

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/13/17 11:04 AM

Originally Posted By: dgless21
Originally Posted By: vmlb
Seems like the parents are wise. Look at all your options, then decide. He might still decide to join the Jayhawk nation. What's the rush?


There isn't a rush. Chances are he felt peer pressure as his friends committed and he chose to commit, as he said, due to emotions.

He's 17 or 18 with 20+ D1 offers, and he has every right to hear them out.

We still have a badass class, and we still have 5 of his friends telling him that KU is the right fit for him.


Agree. Especially on the peer pressure point.
Posted by: Kman_blue

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/13/17 07:11 PM

Yeah, I can understand guys taking their time.

Sucks in the immediate time for KU. Hopeful he comes back on board with the Jayhawk family, but it's usually an uphill battle once a guys decommits.

Heard his father, who accompanied him on the visit to KU, was good with his decision to commit, but his mom wasn't prepared for him to commit so soon.

It sounds like there's a good chance the entire family will make an unofficial visit to KU still which will give the entire family a chance to see things for themselves outside of any influence he may have felt from his peers on Junior day.

Hopeful we can keep all the other guys, and I think we have a better chance than most outsiders think we do, but recruiting is just very unpredictable, especially this far away from NSD.

I think it's gonna be a fun ride though with more ups for KU than downs.

Oh, and KU's current team ranking is still #6 in the nation, so not too bad I'd say.
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/13/17 08:18 PM

Originally Posted By: Kman_blue
Yeah, I can understand guys taking their time.

Sucks in the immediate time for KU. Hopeful he comes back on board with the Jayhawk family, but it's usually an uphill battle once a guys decommits.

Heard his father, who accompanied him on the visit to KU, was good with his decision to commit, but his mom wasn't prepared for him to commit so soon.

It sounds like there's a good chance the entire family will make an unofficial visit to KU still which will give the entire family a chance to see things for themselves outside of any influence he may have felt from his peers on Junior day.

Hopeful we can keep all the other guys, and I think we have a better chance than most outsiders think we do, but recruiting is just very unpredictable, especially this far away from NSD.

I think it's gonna be a fun ride though with more ups for KU than downs.

Oh, and KU's current team ranking is still #6 in the nation, so not too bad I'd say.
#8 not 6 today. Unicorn is not correct
Posted by: Kman_blue

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/14/17 12:04 AM

Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
#8 not 6 today. Unicorn is not correct

Wrong again, currently still #6.
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/14/17 08:08 AM

http://247sports.com/Season/2018-Football/CompositeTeamRankings

#8 I'm using a link also Includes Chase de-commit info as of 2-12-17
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/14/17 08:54 AM

Originally Posted By: Kman_blue
Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
#8 not 6 today. Unicorn is not correct

Wrong again, currently still #6.


We all know KUCO's too childish to let this go. He'll argue stupid points all day long.
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/14/17 09:47 AM

Originally Posted By: dgless21
Originally Posted By: Kman_blue
Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
#8 not 6 today. Unicorn is not correct

Wrong again, currently still #6.


We all know KUCO's too childish to let this go. He'll argue stupid points all day long.
Well, is it 6 or 8 dgless? Point being that our LA candidates are dropping out of the list and that's a fact. It's 8. But it's childish now.
Posted by: vmlb

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/14/17 12:53 PM

Originally Posted By: dgless21
Originally Posted By: Kman_blue
Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
#8 not 6 today. Unicorn is not correct

Wrong again, currently still #6.


We all know KUCO's too childish to let this go. He'll argue stupid points all day long.


He just expects Beaty to bring in top 5 classes like CW did.
Posted by: Kman_blue

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/14/17 03:03 PM

Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
http://247sports.com/Season/2018-Football/CompositeTeamRankings

#8 I'm using a link also Includes Chase de-commit info as of 2-12-17
KU went from #2 in the nation to #6 in the nation according to Rivals, so they too included our recent decommitment.

You saying I was not correct, is factually WRONG.


And the bigger point is, KU being ranked the #2 or #6 or even the #8 recruiting class in the nation right now is pretty damned impressive and a real POSITIVE SIGN for KU football going forward!

All you want to do is sh!t all over it and nitpick stupid BS about it.

Yeah, sure you root for the Jayhawks, cause if this is how you root for something, then I'd hate to see how you root against something.
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/14/17 03:11 PM

https://kansas.rivals.com/news/daniel-parker-believes-beaty-has-kansas-on-right-track

Daniel Parker with some kind words. Would be nice to have Parker and Jenkins side by side on the line for 4 years.

He'd need to add some weight from 245, but he'd be a nice addition.
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/14/17 03:22 PM

Originally Posted By: Kman_blue
Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
http://247sports.com/Season/2018-Football/CompositeTeamRankings

#8 I'm using a link also Includes Chase de-commit info as of 2-12-17
KU went from #2 in the nation to #6 in the nation according to Rivals, so they too included our recent decommitment.

You saying I was not correct, is factually WRONG.


And the bigger point is, KU being ranked the #2 or #6 or even the #8 recruiting class in the nation right now is pretty damned impressive and a real POSITIVE SIGN for KU football going forward!

All you want to do is sh!t all over it and nitpick stupid BS about it.

Yeah, sure you root for the Jayhawks, cause if this is how you root for something, then I'd hate to see how you root against something.
I see a yuge 8 ranking this morning on 247 link I provided. I'm sure your right but how can I be right also? 8 not 6 but the point is, our Louisiana pipeline is leaking steam somewhere. And yes I would like KU to retain all the verbal non binding 2018's but again I say it's when I see them in class and practicing on the field that I get excited. They are 16-7 years old. Impressionable young kiddos. We are savvy veterans of this process IMHO.
Posted by: Kman_blue

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/14/17 03:37 PM

Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
]I see a yuge 8 ranking this morning on 247 link I provided. I'm sure your right but how can I be right also? 8 not 6 but the point is, our Louisiana pipeline is leaking steam somewhere. And yes I would like KU to retain all the verbal non binding 2018's but again I say it's when I see them in class and practicing on the field that I get excited. They are 16-7 years old. Impressionable young kiddos. We are savvy veterans of this process IMHO.
The difference is, you said I was wrong in the ranking even when I had the direct link to the ranking I was referencing in my post.

Of course, everyone (all of us Jayhawk fans) wants to see these guys actually enrolled at KU and suiting up on Saturdays in the end and a lot can and will happen between now and NSD 2018, but getting such HUGE commitments this early in the game is a definite boost to KU football already. KU has had a lot of national publicity as a result and a lot of positive recognition from all of the recruiting sites as well. That's a big positive for KU football in and of itself.

And now that ONE of our SIX Louisiana commits has decommitted is now a pipeline leaking steam??? LOL

You must be a bowl of joy when there's a beautiful sunny day and you see 1 small cloud in the distance to b!tch about.
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/14/17 03:48 PM

Originally Posted By: Kman_blue
All you want to do is sh!t all over it and nitpick stupid BS about it.


This is what he has done every single day for the last year or more.

Or he realizes he's lost, changes the subject, and suggests his point was something completely unrelated to anything his post said.

It was suggested to me, and I'll pass it on to you. Put him on ignore. He's not going to say anything worth reading.
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/14/17 04:05 PM

Originally Posted By: Kman_blue
Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
]I see a yuge 8 ranking this morning on 247 link I provided. I'm sure your right but how can I be right also? 8 not 6 but the point is, our Louisiana pipeline is leaking steam somewhere. And yes I would like KU to retain all the verbal non binding 2018's but again I say it's when I see them in class and practicing on the field that I get excited. They are 16-7 years old. Impressionable young kiddos. We are savvy veterans of this process IMHO.
The difference is, you said I was wrong in the ranking even when I had the direct link to the ranking I was referencing in my post.

Of course, everyone (all of us Jayhawk fans) wants to see these guys actually enrolled at KU and suiting up on Saturdays in the end and a lot can and will happen between now and NSD 2018, but getting such HUGE commitments this early in the game is a definite boost to KU football already. KU has had a lot of national publicity as a result and a lot of positive recognition from all of the recruiting sites as well. That's a big positive for KU football in and of itself.

And now that ONE of our SIX Louisiana commits has decommitted is now a pipeline leaking steam??? LOL

You must be a bowl of joy when there's a beautiful sunny day and you see 1 small cloud in the distance to b!tch about.
Six 4 stars? Nope we have one less now. Don't think it doesn't matter. It does. Go Hawks.

If Kansas could win games I would be happier. The HC has a ten year plan that is opposed to my immediate turn around plans.
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/14/17 04:12 PM

Originally Posted By: dgless21
Originally Posted By: Kman_blue
All you want to do is sh!t all over it and nitpick stupid BS about it.


This is what he has done every single day for the last year or more.

Or he realizes he's lost, changes the subject, and suggests his point was something completely unrelated to anything his post said.

It was suggested to me, and I'll pass it on to you. Put him on ignore. He's not going to say anything worth reading.
Frankly dgless is like a house mother here. Stand up straight now!! Kman and I post back and forth with strong clear concise opinions. You tend to be his moody BFF.

I have posted for a while longer than a year or so.
Posted by: track

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/14/17 04:52 PM

Originally Posted By: dgless21
Originally Posted By: Kman_blue
All you want to do is sh!t all over it and nitpick stupid BS about it.


This is what he has done every single day for the last year or more.

Or he realizes he's lost, changes the subject, and suggests his point was something completely unrelated to anything his post said.

It was suggested to me, and I'll pass it on to you. Put him on ignore. He's not going to say anything worth reading.

Tell it... he is a troll.
Posted by: AlOerter

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/14/17 05:58 PM

Winning games starts with recruiting talent. No matter how well you coach them up, if you put inferior athletes on the field against superior ones, more often than not you will lose.

What I am seeing is far ahead of a ten year plan.
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/14/17 06:02 PM

Originally Posted By: track
Originally Posted By: dgless21
Originally Posted By: Kman_blue
All you want to do is sh!t all over it and nitpick stupid BS about it.


This is what he has done every single day for the last year or more.

Or he realizes he's lost, changes the subject, and suggests his point was something completely unrelated to anything his post said.

It was suggested to me, and I'll pass it on to you. Put him on ignore. He's not going to say anything worth reading.

Tell it... he is a troll.
And I call you a sunshine pumper. Not even a unicorn.
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/14/17 06:05 PM

Originally Posted By: AlOerter
Winning games starts with recruiting talent. No matter how well you coach them up, if you put inferior athletes on the field against superior ones, more often than not you will lose.

What I am seeing is far ahead of a ten year plan.
I hope so. DB hasn't got 10 years to be slowly better. His AD is on a football proverbial hot seat.
Posted by: 58hawk

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/14/17 06:50 PM

Or he realizes he's lost, changes the subject, and suggests his point was something completely unrelated to anything his post said. Bingo.
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/14/17 07:04 PM

Originally Posted By: 58hawk
Or he realizes he's lost, changes the subject, and suggests his point was something completely unrelated to anything his post said. Bingo.
Yes 58 I agree with you totally 👎
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/15/17 11:14 AM

Some actual recruiting information:

https://kansas.rivals.com/news/miles-emery-picking-up-offers-talks-about-kansas-visit

Miles Emery talking about his visit. Hopefully his comments are true, some the guys actually make KU home soon.

"I knew a lot of the guys up there," Emery said of the other visitors. "I felt everyone liked it a lot, and was so amazed how well it looked. They seemed like they were almost at home."
Posted by: appyhawk

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/15/17 06:12 PM

That Emery interview was great dg.
I also like what Parker had to say. Don't know how hot he is on us, but it's a good read...
https://kansas.rivals.com/news/daniel-parker-believes-beaty-has-kansas-on-right-track
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/15/17 06:25 PM

Sadly, I posted that yesterday. It just got buried.
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/15/17 07:26 PM

Originally Posted By: dgless21
Sadly, I posted that yesterday. It just got buried.
What an ego!
Posted by: Kman_blue

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/15/17 08:01 PM

I'd love it if KU could get both Emery and Parker.

A couple really good HS DL who could make an impact at KU IMO.

A lot of talent in the 2018 class on the MO side and several were at our Junior Day just like these 2. Hopefully KU can land a few more of them.
Posted by: Josh2408

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/16/17 01:34 AM

My father in law believes the majority of talent right now is coming out of Missouri. Is this accurate??
Posted by: schmuck34

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/16/17 05:50 AM

Yes. Kansas hs is a bit thin for 2018 and last year was no banner year either.
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/16/17 08:04 AM

Originally Posted By: Josh2408
My father in law believes the majority of talent right now is coming out of Missouri. Is this accurate??


Missouri is pretty loaded for 2018. It's as deep as I've seen MO be with prospects in a long time.

Outside of Emery, there's not many KS FBS prospects that I've seen floated around.
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/16/17 08:57 AM

JaMarr Chase picked up an LSU offer.

Offered 4 star safety Isaiah Humphries - current Penn State commit.

http://247sports.com/Player/Isaiah-Humphries-85436

Offered 3 star WR Carson Schleker from Allen, TX. He's short (5'8"), but he's got a nice offer list.

http://247sports.com/Player/Carson-Schleker-46036548
Posted by: pizzanbeer

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/16/17 02:21 PM

The Slant reports Nelson Jenkins flips to LSU.
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/16/17 02:28 PM

Not a great day for KU recruiting with Trae choosing OU and now Jenkins flipping.

Neither is overly surprising, though.
Posted by: Kman_blue

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/16/17 04:15 PM

Yeah sucks if we've indeed lost Jenkins.

Was hoping he'd come up to KU for a visit or two during the spring and/or summer so we could shore up his commitment as he wasn't one of the Junior day visitors nor has he ever been up to Lawrence or seen KU up close. He seemed to commit because of who else had committed to us the prior weekend.

This thing is gonna be a wild ride and today was a down one it would appear.

Also, it seems that LSU is now going after more of their in-state prospects with official offers since KU's big recruiting weekend. KU's Junior Day haul may have been a little kick in their ass to get more aggressive in their own local recruiting efforts.
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/16/17 04:56 PM

So we don't have six 4 stars anymore? Dam it I knew we couldn't keep most of them. But it took a week of reflection for two of the saviors

Can we get 1/3 salary increase back from Hull? No?

Hey I think I know how to get a salary increase!!! It works.
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/16/17 05:01 PM

Originally Posted By: dgless21
Not a great day for KU recruiting with Trae choosing OU and now Jenkins flipping.

Neither is overly surprising, though.
I never wanted The Ball Hog from the get go.
Posted by: INation

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/16/17 06:53 PM

Jenkins won't be the last of the current LA recruits. The group of LA players that committed together calling themselves the "Boot Boys" felt too much like the "Dream Team" debacle.

Also i'd rather see Self recruit players that are not projected lottery picks. How do we know Udoka Azubuike will come back next year? Just because he's hurt doesn't mean the pro teams will skip over him.
Posted by: pizzanbeer

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/16/17 07:03 PM

It does remind me of the dream team. We'll see how it works out.
Posted by: kylecof11

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/17/17 08:04 AM

Originally Posted By: INation
Jenkins won't be the last of the current LA recruits. The group of LA players that committed together calling themselves the "Boot Boys" felt too much like the "Dream Team" debacle.

Also i'd rather see Self recruit players that are not projected lottery picks. How do we know Udoka Azubuike will come back next year? Just because he's hurt doesn't mean the pro teams will skip over him.


Don't know why the Udoka part is here. But he has to be back as he will not be 19 by the draft this year. And NBA rules state players have to be 19 to be selected. He is a 2 year player. Which is why Self hated to lose him because now he basically only gets 1 year instead of the 2 that was possible.
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/17/17 08:22 AM

Originally Posted By: pizzanbeer
It does remind me of the dream team. We'll see how it works out.


As much as I love comparing anything to our amazing former head coach, this comparison has holes. The dream team all committed, stayed committed, and made it to campus. The problem was what they did or didn't do when they got here. They took scholarships, and then proceeded to provide no benefit to the team.

Martin, Combs, Thomas, Hyman, Faifili, Coleman, MJM, Goeas, Darling, Fondal, Johnson, Slater, Short, Bolton, Johnson, Bloomfield were all part of that 2013 "dream team" class and failed to make it to a senior year at KU. Many of them had absolutely zero on-field impact at KU.

At least with decommits, we can add a different scholarship player in the class.

Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/17/17 08:59 AM

The two (so far, it's been a week) decommits gave the posters above some temporary hope of a brighter future and had zero on-field impact in the end. Temporary hope = Dream Team similarities, dgless. Only you took it to mean something about our "amazing former head coach". Keep kicking him, it's all his fault!
Posted by: vmlb

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/17/17 09:09 AM

The program is getting played by the recruits as bait for a better offer. It should be expected.
What bothers me more is that Ped State has the number one ranking. Our punishment for hiring two crap coaches in a row is worse then their covering up the crap they committed. Life's not fair. If Beaty doesn't succeed we may as well hire Briles to take over. At least we might get some winning football teams.
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/17/17 09:15 AM

I looked up 247 2018 team recruiting rankings (Friday) and we are listed at #9 with six verbal commits, 2 four stars listed. Hopefully, we aren't going to see more slippage (decommits) as kids will be kids at 16-7 years of age.
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/17/17 09:20 AM

Originally Posted By: vmlb
The program is getting played by the recruits as bait for a better offer. It should be expected.
What bothers me more is that Ped State has the number one ranking. Our punishment for hiring two crap coaches in a row is worse then their covering up the crap they committed. Life's not fair. If Beaty doesn't succeed we may as well hire Briles to take over. At least we might get some winning football teams.
I agree, that Ped State comment especially.
Posted by: 58hawk

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/17/17 09:53 AM

Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
I looked up 247 2018 team recruiting rankings (Friday) and we are listed at #9 with six verbal commits, 2 four stars listed. Hopefully, we aren't going to see more slippage (decommits) as kids will be kids at 16-7 years of age.
True. Even 9th is still pretty amazing.
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/17/17 10:03 AM

It certainly doesn't feel good to see decommits, but you have to be happy (but not complacent) with what it is still currently committed.

We still have our two highest commits since 2000 with Corione Harris and Devonta Jason...and another at #15 with Anthony Williams.

http://kansas.247sports.com/Sport/Football/AllTimeRecruits
Posted by: Phog1004

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/17/17 10:34 AM

Originally Posted By: vmlb
The program is getting played by the recruits as bait for a better offer. It should be expected.
.


I think this is probably right for Jenkins, but I'm not sure I buy that for the rest of them.....He didn't decommit to decommit, he flopped directly to LSU, as soon as Coach O offered a scholly. Clearly that what he was waiting form

Chase simply decommitted to give it some more thought. He didn't need to bait for more offers, because he already had committable offers from Florida, LSU, Tennessee, TCU, etc, etc, etc.... and remains undecided.

Same goes for guys like Jason, Brule, and Harris....they had MAJOR offers before even committing to KU, If they ever do Decommit, which they could, it won't be because they were using KU to get an offer from a bigger school. They could have done that with an actual National Championship caliber team instead
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/17/17 10:55 AM

Originally Posted By: Phog1004
Originally Posted By: vmlb
The program is getting played by the recruits as bait for a better offer. It should be expected.
.


I think this is probably right for Jenkins, but I'm not sure I buy that for the rest of them.....He didn't decommit to decommit, he flopped directly to LSU, as soon as Coach O offered a scholly. Clearly that what he was waiting form

Chase simply decommitted to give it some more thought. He didn't need to bait for more offers, because he already had committable offers from Florida, LSU, Tennessee, TCU, etc, etc, etc.... and remains undecided.

Same goes for guys like Jason, Brule, and Harris....they had MAJOR offers before even committing to KU, If they ever do Decommit, which they could, it won't be because they were using KU to get an offer from a bigger school. They could have done that with an actual National Championship caliber team instead
By reaching for and verbally committing to Kansas the kids certainly realize the better offers closer to home will come later. Louisiana kids will get more comfortable in LSU's eyes by settling for Kansas early, then going for "closer to home" comments when flipping. That makes more sense to me, Phog.
Posted by: Phog1004

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/17/17 12:44 PM

Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
Originally Posted By: Phog1004
Originally Posted By: vmlb
The program is getting played by the recruits as bait for a better offer. It should be expected.
.


I think this is probably right for Jenkins........Same goes for guys like Jason, Brule, and Harris....they had MAJOR offers before even committing to KU, If they ever do Decommit, which they could, it won't be because they were using KU to get an offer from a bigger school. They could have done that with an actual National Championship caliber team instead
By reaching for and verbally committing to Kansas the kids certainly realize the better offers closer to home will come later. Louisiana kids will get more comfortable in LSU's eyes by settling for Kansas early, then going for "closer to home" comments when flipping. That makes more sense to me, Phog.


again, this sentence "By reaching for and verbally committing to Kansas the kids certainly realize the better offers closer to home will come later" only works if those kids didn't already have "better offers closer to home"....which they already did. as has been pointed out. Numerous times.
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/17/17 01:16 PM

Originally Posted By: Phog1004
Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
Originally Posted By: Phog1004
Originally Posted By: vmlb
The program is getting played by the recruits as bait for a better offer. It should be expected.
.


I think this is probably right for Jenkins........Same goes for guys like Jason, Brule, and Harris....they had MAJOR offers before even committing to KU, If they ever do Decommit, which they could, it won't be because they were using KU to get an offer from a bigger school. They could have done that with an actual National Championship caliber team instead
By reaching for and verbally committing to Kansas the kids certainly realize the better offers closer to home will come later. Louisiana kids will get more comfortable in LSU's eyes by settling for Kansas early, then going for "closer to home" comments when flipping. That makes more sense to me, Phog.


again, this sentence "By reaching for and verbally committing to Kansas the kids certainly realize the better offers closer to home will come later" only works if those kids didn't already have "better offers closer to home"....which they already did. as has been pointed out. Numerous times.
I said closer to home you said major not closer. I've said it twice now for the denser folks.
Why act childish on here?
Posted by: Phog1004

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/17/17 02:14 PM

lmao, that is rich coming from you, but I like it good sir...

The point is that, the Major scholly's they already have, ARE closer to home. I mean they are from La, so LSU, Alabama, Tennessee, etc... are all already considerable closer to home that KU.

So whether you want to spin it as they are waiting for Better Offers period, or better offers closer to home.....it doesn't hold water.

and while I know you will come back with another spin about the kids not yet having some type of offer, as you are just trying to poop on any KU Football parade as possible (per usual), I enjoy the game and banter.

So poop on cookoo, lol
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/17/17 03:35 PM

And I get shiit for being too accurate on here! The guy flipped after getting LSU attention immediately so most if not all may follow after reflection. We see 2 so far after a week. Not something I wanted but it happened.
Posted by: Kman_blue

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/17/17 07:42 PM

This is just idiotic.

1 kid decommits because his mother, who wasn't on the Junior Day trip with him, talked him into slowing things down and thinking it over more. KU is still very much in the mix for him though from all reports.

1 kid commits to KU sight unseen, as he'd never been up to KU, nor was he on the Junior Day visit, then decommits as soon as LSU offers and commits to them at the same time.

Now, it's morphed into they're all just using KU and KU is gonna lose them all, and they're just like some over-hyped non-producing dream team from several years ago?

1st, these HS recruits already have virtually every big offer they'd ever dreamed of before they committed to KU. 2nd, they have long standing relationships between them and their families and coach Hull going back nearly a decade. 4th, A couple of them are also good friends with Mike Lee. 3rd, 2 of these recruits already decommitted from LSU last year and have had plenty of time to reflect on things. 5th, I doubt very much any of these guys are the head cases who were the headliners of our dream team class were and why they had no impact on the field here. 6th, at least a couple of them seem to be relishing this doubter/hater type attitude some fans of other schools are throwing them about their commitments to KU.

A ton of people were saying the same types of things about and to our top recruit from the 2017 class, Dom Williams, and he stayed committed for almost 2 full years before signing with KU! I know that's really rare in recruiting in general (for any school), but top level recruits can and do stay committed to KU sometimes.

Does that guarantee they'll all stay committed? No, of course not, but do those things suggest this is a lot different deal than the dream team thing? Yes, I think it does in some very significant ways. Does it also suggest none of the 4 still committed are using KU as a place holder? No, in fact it suggests the opposite. Also, in at least 1 case of these 4 remaining commitments, I think the odds are nearly 100% they'll be at KU come summer 2018 (or sooner if they do graduate early).
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/24/17 01:43 PM

Kenan Jones, the five star WR that visited on junior day with the commits we have, has decommitted from LSU.

https://twitter.com/kenanballout32/status/835193526501638144/photo/1
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/24/17 03:36 PM

If they don't like LSU Kansas is gonna be it? Doubts are creeping in...this isn't club level football here.
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/28/17 11:20 AM

Devonta Jason up to #25 on Rivals.
Posted by: Phog1004

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/28/17 05:44 PM

While I don't think we get a sniff from Kenan Jones, after his LSU decommit.....it's certainly not a bad thing to see him "liking" and retweeting stuff from Daylon Charlot, and Mike Lee.
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/28/17 05:48 PM

Originally Posted By: Phog1004
While I don't think we get a sniff from Kenan Jones, after his LSU decommit.....it's certainly not a bad thing to see him "liking" and retweeting stuff from Daylon Charlot, and Mike Lee.

If he learns the secret handshake he will come!
Posted by: Kman_blue

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 02/28/17 07:56 PM

Originally Posted By: Phog1004
While I don't think we get a sniff from Kenan Jones, after his LSU decommit.....it's certainly not a bad thing to see him "liking" and retweeting stuff from Daylon Charlot, and Mike Lee.

I don't know. Kenan was at our Junior Day and seemed to have a really good time. Not sure why he decommitted from LSU, but I think KU has a legit shot at him right now. Heard he's got KU high on his list.

I'll be trying to keep track if either Kenan or Ja'Marr Chase come up for another visit. This time hopefully Ja'Marr's mother will be along as well as Kenan's family. I think that'd give KU the best shot at landing, or re-landing in Chase's case, 1 or both of these guys. But like I said, from what I've heard KU is in the mix for both guys still right now. Coach Hull still working hard.
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 03/01/17 08:58 AM

Kenan also follows Stowers, Carmichael, Phog Recruiting, Kansas Football, Beaty, Meacham, Hull, Slant, Tune, Pooka, Justin Johnson, Crook Jones, JaMarr Chase, Kenyon Tabor, Whop (Devonta Jason), and Jay Dineen. Among others.

He obviously has no interest in KU.
Posted by: Kman_blue

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 03/01/17 11:14 AM

Yeah, I noticed he's been retweeting some Daylon Charlot tweets lately. Someone told me he also follows Mike Lee or has at least retweeted him lately as well.

Those relationships can only help our chances I'd think.
Posted by: Kman_blue

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 03/01/17 11:21 AM

Talking about twitter, I also noticed Corione Harris tweeted out yesterday that he's "proudly committed to KU".

I don't think it was prompted by anything else on twitter at least. Maybe something local down in The Boot happened which prompted him to reaffirm his commitment to KU, either way that's very encouraging to read!

I think Harris, Jason, and Pooka are the most solidly committed out of our Louisianimals right now.

Heard 1 of our other NOLA commits, Aaron Brule, just visited Alabama. Maybe Charlot can give him a little heads up on why he transferred out of there to KU? I really like Brule and think he's underrated by the recruiting websites right now, so I hope we can keep him on board all the way to NSD 2018.
Posted by: EstebanBugatti

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 03/01/17 01:02 PM

Originally Posted By: Kman_blue
Talking about twitter, I also noticed Corione Harris tweeted out yesterday that he's "proudly committed to KU".

I don't think it was prompted by anything else on twitter at least. Maybe something local down in The Boot happened which prompted him to reaffirm his commitment to KU, either way that's very encouraging to read!

I think Harris, Jason, and Pooka are the most solidly committed out of our Louisianimals right now.

Heard 1 of our other NOLA commits, Aaron Brule, just visited Alabama. Maybe Charlot can give him a little heads up on why he transferred out of there to KU? I really like Brule and think he's underrated by the recruiting websites right now, so I hope we can keep him on board all the way to NSD 2018.

I think it had to do with the fact that the schools he wanted to offer him the most haven't. It was a way to stick it to them by rubbing it in by saying they missed their chance.
Posted by: EstebanBugatti

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 03/01/17 02:23 PM

Originally Posted By: dgless21
Kenan also follows Stowers, Carmichael, Phog Recruiting, Kansas Football, Beaty, Meacham, Hull, Slant, Tune, Pooka, Justin Johnson, Crook Jones, JaMarr Chase, Kenyon Tabor, Whop (Devonta Jason), and Jay Dineen. Among others.

He obviously has no interest in KU.

And now he follows me as well so take that however you want. lol
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 03/01/17 03:23 PM

http://247sports.com/Season/2018-Football/CompositeTeamRankings

Kansas ranked 10th now in team recruiting for 2018. Trending downward.
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 03/01/17 04:09 PM

Originally Posted By: EstebanBugatti
And now he follows me as well so take that however you want. lol


Oh, that's a given. We all do.
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 03/01/17 04:11 PM

Originally Posted By: EstebanBugatti
I think it had to do with the fact that the schools he wanted to offer him the most haven't. It was a way to stick it to them by rubbing it in by saying they missed their chance.


Curious who he might be talking about. Bama? FSU? Michigan?
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 03/01/17 04:12 PM

Originally Posted By: Kman_blue
Heard 1 of our other NOLA commits, Aaron Brule, just visited Alabama. Maybe Charlot can give him a little heads up on why he transferred out of there to KU? I really like Brule and think he's underrated by the recruiting websites right now, so I hope we can keep him on board all the way to NSD 2018.


I believe he visited Bama and Arkansas back to back.
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 03/01/17 04:21 PM

JaMarr Chase trimmed down his list a bit.

https://twitter.com/10jayy__/status/837016928195592192
Posted by: EstebanBugatti

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 03/01/17 05:05 PM

Originally Posted By: dgless21
JaMarr Chase trimmed down his list a bit.

https://twitter.com/10jayy__/status/837016928195592192

KU is in his top 11 for people who don't want to click the link.
Posted by: EstebanBugatti

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 03/01/17 05:10 PM

Originally Posted By: dgless21
Originally Posted By: EstebanBugatti
I think it had to do with the fact that the schools he wanted to offer him the most haven't. It was a way to stick it to them by rubbing it in by saying they missed their chance.


Curious who he might be talking about. Bama? FSU? Michigan?

I'd guess Bama, Ohio St, Michigan and Clemson.
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 03/01/17 07:00 PM

Originally Posted By: EstebanBugatti
Originally Posted By: dgless21
JaMarr Chase trimmed down his list a bit.

https://twitter.com/10jayy__/status/837016928195592192

KU is in his top 11 for people who don't want to click the link.
So we have .08 chance? Nice. But not realistic
Posted by: EstebanBugatti

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 03/01/17 07:27 PM

Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
Originally Posted By: EstebanBugatti
Originally Posted By: dgless21
JaMarr Chase trimmed down his list a bit.

https://twitter.com/10jayy__/status/837016928195592192

KU is in his top 11 for people who don't want to click the link.
So we have .08 chance? Nice. But not realistic

Someone doesn't understand how percentages work.
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 03/02/17 05:32 AM

Originally Posted By: EstebanBugatti
Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
Originally Posted By: EstebanBugatti
Originally Posted By: dgless21
JaMarr Chase trimmed down his list a bit.

https://twitter.com/10jayy__/status/837016928195592192

KU is in his top 11 for people who don't want to click the link.
So we have .08 chance? Nice. But not realistic

Someone doesn't understand how percentages work.
I'm ready for you to explain it , smart guy !!

Well?
Posted by: Kman_blue

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 03/02/17 09:44 AM

Originally Posted By: EstebanBugatti
Originally Posted By: dgless21
Kenan also follows Stowers, Carmichael, Phog Recruiting, Kansas Football, Beaty, Meacham, Hull, Slant, Tune, Pooka, Justin Johnson, Crook Jones, JaMarr Chase, Kenyon Tabor, Whop (Devonta Jason), and Jay Dineen. Among others.

He obviously has no interest in KU.

And now he follows me as well so take that however you want. lol
You're on the hook now!

Don't screw this up for KU by tweeting something to turn him off KU!!! grin
Posted by: Kman_blue

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 03/02/17 09:50 AM

Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
http://247sports.com/Season/2018-Football/CompositeTeamRankings

Kansas ranked 10th now in team recruiting for 2018. Trending downward.
Oh no!!!!!

The sky is falling! The sky is falling!! KU is ONLY in the top 10 in the nation in FOOTBALL recruiting rankings!! Things are looking hopeless!!

To quote the recently deceased Bill Paxton RIP,

Posted by: Kman_blue

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 03/02/17 09:59 AM

Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
Originally Posted By: EstebanBugatti
Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
Originally Posted By: EstebanBugatti

KU is in his top 11 for people who don't want to click the link.
So we have .08 chance? Nice. But not realistic

Someone doesn't understand how percentages work.
I'm ready for you to explain it , smart guy !!

Well?
While, I'm obviously not EstebanBugatti, but last time I did the calculations 1/11 = 9.1% or .0909090909090909...

That's if you don't consider the fact that he'd already committed to us once and his mother convinced him to slow things down and decommit which may lead some to believe that KU may be higher than just top 11(which is still nice to be in!) on his list still. I think if his entire family comes up for a visit over the summer we've got at least a 50/50 chance of getting him back.
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 03/02/17 10:08 AM

Missing the first zero in your decimal.

And I concur, no screwing this up for us, Frederick (Esteban) lol
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 03/02/17 12:10 PM

Originally Posted By: Kman_blue
Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
http://247sports.com/Season/2018-Football/CompositeTeamRankings

Kansas ranked 10th now in team recruiting for 2018. Trending downward.
Oh no!!!!!

The sky is falling! The sky is falling!! KU is ONLY in the top 10 in the nation in FOOTBALL recruiting rankings!! Things are looking hopeless!!

To quote the recently deceased Bill Paxton RIP,

I posted "trending downward" and you take the sky is falling approach! You need some Xanax for your anxiety.
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 03/02/17 12:16 PM

Originally Posted By: Kman_blue
Originally Posted By: EstebanBugatti
Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
Originally Posted By: EstebanBugatti

KU is in his top 11 for people who don't want to click the link.

Someone doesn't understand how percentages work.
I'm ready for you to explain it , smart guy !!

Well?
While, I'm obviously not EstebanBugatti, but last time I did the calculations 1/11 = 9.1% or 0.909090909090909...

That's if you don't consider the fact that he'd already committed to us once and his mother convinced him to slow things down and decommit which may lead some to believe that KU may be higher than just top 11(which is still nice to be in!) on his list still. I think if his entire family comes up for a visit over the summer we've got at least a 50/50 chance of getting him back.
If you aren't BugDaddy you should be grateful. .90 is a 9 out of 10 chance of getting his commitment. .09 is approx. .08 in my book = 1 chance out of 11 on his current list. YOU are the one who doesn't understand %'s I guess.
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 03/02/17 12:18 PM

Originally Posted By: dgless21
Missing the first zero in your decimal.

And I concur, no screwing this up for us, Frederick (Esteban) lol
I agree that kman is missing something in his calculations. At last, we agree on something.
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 03/02/17 03:10 PM

Originally Posted By: EstebanBugatti
Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
Originally Posted By: EstebanBugatti
Originally Posted By: dgless21
JaMarr Chase trimmed down his list a bit.

https://twitter.com/10jayy__/status/837016928195592192

KU is in his top 11 for people who don't want to click the link.
So we have .08 chance? Nice. But not realistic

Someone doesn't understand how percentages work.
12 hours later I am waiting on BugDaddy explain what he means about %'s. We already have one huge fail by not the bugdaddy...
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 03/02/17 03:44 PM

Originally Posted By: dgless21
Missing the first zero in your decimal.

And I concur, no screwing this up for us, Frederick (Esteban) lol
You are kidding I get it. But really if a kid is embarrassed about a premature announce, you truly believe he will continue to go with KU? At 17, I did dumb stuff that I never did again.
Posted by: EstebanBugatti

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 03/02/17 03:47 PM

Trying to explain it to you would just be a waste of my time. Especially since someone else already did it for me and you refused to accept it.
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 03/02/17 03:54 PM

Originally Posted By: EstebanBugatti
Trying to explain it to you would just be a waste of my time. Especially since someone else already did it for me and you refused to accept it.
The difference between.08 & .09 is your response? LOL 😂 not material BD

Perhaps you believe it's.90 like not the BD?

You are Jim West aren't you???????
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 03/02/17 04:05 PM

Bug Daddy tells me he is so smart that he can't explain himself. Just another Trump wannabe

This isn't my refusal to accept but rather your problem to accept you spoke ill of someone saying the hard facts of a kid de-commiting is probably going to make a .08 chance as slim or none.

I will be happy to take your answer.

Yes you are right that it's close to 1 100th difference smart guy!!
Posted by: Phog1004

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 03/02/17 05:26 PM

not to get into the middle of a pissing match, but you are assuming the decision is being made in a vacuum and at a totally random possibility.....meaning then that ,yes, the probability is small, and even across the board.

That however, doesn't take into account the thought process of a teenager, which very well could change from day to day.

So there is literally no way to say what our probability is....it could be .08....it could be 75%

he has 11 schools listed,and I guarantee you that he does not view all 11 of those teams exactly equal, and there may even be a few teams he is just listing to be nice (and yes, we could be one of them.....but so could LSU, we just don't know)
Posted by: Kman_blue

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 03/02/17 07:15 PM

Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
Originally Posted By: Kman_blue
Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
http://247sports.com/Season/2018-Football/CompositeTeamRankings

Kansas ranked 10th now in team recruiting for 2018. Trending downward.
Oh no!!!!!

The sky is falling! The sky is falling!! KU is ONLY in the top 10 in the nation in FOOTBALL recruiting rankings!! Things are looking hopeless!!

To quote the recently deceased Bill Paxton RIP,

I posted "trending downward" and you take the sky is falling approach! You need some Xanax for your anxiety.
Yes, going from #2 in the nation to #9 in the nation(according to Rivals, don't know what 247's highest for us was) is worrisome enough to note that's a downward trend.

Yes, nobody who's mostly all doom and gloom wouldn't be the one to note that troublesome trend!

Our recruiting class is merely in the top 10 in the nation right now when it was in the top 2 just 2 weeks ago! Fire coach Beaty! [/end sarcasm]
Posted by: Kman_blue

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 03/02/17 07:23 PM

Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
Originally Posted By: Kman_blue
[quote=EstebanBugatti]While, I'm obviously not EstebanBugatti, but last time I did the calculations 1/11 = 9.1% or .0909090909090909...

That's if you don't consider the fact that he'd already committed to us once and his mother convinced him to slow things down and decommit which may lead some to believe that KU may be higher than just top 11(which is still nice to be in!) on his list still. I think if his entire family comes up for a visit over the summer we've got at least a 50/50 chance of getting him back.
If you aren't BugDaddy you should be grateful. .90 is a 9 out of 10 chance of getting his commitment. .09 is approx. .08 in my book = 1 chance out of 11 on his current list. YOU are the one who doesn't understand %'s I guess.
It was a typo, you doofus and .08 = 1 out of 12.5, how can 12.5 schools be in the mix for him? Where is this mythical 1/2 school??

The difference between .091 and .08 is 13.6%, that's statistically quite significant, so your theory of them more or less being equal is flawed to say the least.

Since you understand percentages so well, you should go spend all your paycheck on the lottery. You're bond to win! I mean the odds gotta be in the 1/12.5 ballpark or better, right?
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 03/02/17 08:52 PM

Originally Posted By: Kman_blue
Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
Originally Posted By: Kman_blue
[quote=EstebanBugatti]While, I'm obviously not EstebanBugatti, but last time I did the calculations 1/11 = 9.1% or .0909090909090909...

That's if you don't consider the fact that he'd already committed to us once and his mother convinced him to slow things down and decommit which may lead some to believe that KU may be higher than just top 11(which is still nice to be in!) on his list still. I think if his entire family comes up for a visit over the summer we've got at least a 50/50 chance of getting him back.
If you aren't BugDaddy you should be grateful. .90 is a 9 out of 10 chance of getting his commitment. .09 is approx. .08 in my book = 1 chance out of 11 on his current list. YOU are the one who doesn't understand %'s I guess.
It was a typo, you doofus and .08 = 1 out of 12.5, how can 12.5 schools be in the mix for him? Where is this mythical 1/2 school??

The difference between .091 and .08 is 13.6%, that's statistically quite significant, so your theory of them more or less being equal is flawed to say the least.

Since you understand percentages so well, you should go spend all your paycheck on the lottery. You're bond to win! I mean the odds gotta be in the 1/12.5 ballpark or better, right?
kman I said not material. Take your Xanex !!

Big Daddy isn't backing you up either!!
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 03/02/17 08:59 PM

Originally Posted By: Kman_blue
Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
Originally Posted By: Kman_blue
Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
http://247sports.com/Season/2018-Football/CompositeTeamRankings

Kansas ranked 10th now in team recruiting for 2018. Trending downward.
Oh no!!!!!

The sky is falling! The sky is falling!! KU is ONLY in the top 10 in the nation in FOOTBALL recruiting rankings!! Things are looking hopeless!!

To quote the recently deceased Bill Paxton RIP,

I posted "trending downward" and you take the sky is falling approach! You need some Xanax for your anxiety.
Yes, going from #2 in the nation to #9 in the nation(according to Rivals, don't know what 247's highest for us was) is worrisome enough to note that's a downward trend.

Yes, nobody who's mostly all doom and gloom wouldn't be the one to note that troublesome trend!

Our recruiting class is merely in the top 10 in the nation right now when it was in the top 2 just 2 weeks ago! Fireball coach Beaty! [/end sarcasm]
Give it two more weeks
Posted by: Kman_blue

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 03/03/17 10:43 AM

There'll be plenty of moves up and down for every single team ranked before it's all said and done.

I'm not gonna complain 1 damned bit about the guys currently committed no matter where our final ranking comes in at because they'll still be the really good players who can and most likely will help out our program that they are now.
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 03/03/17 11:27 AM

And the next comment is going to be something along the lines of "they have to sign/show up first."

On a recruiting news note, we've offered a BUNCH of Texas kids the last week.

Some of the names (on my phone, links suck):
Bryce Effner
Casey Phillips
Jalen Goss
Connor Galvin
Joshua Ezeudu
Tanner McCalister
Dayven Coleman
Jawhar Jordan Jr.
Jaray Jenkins
Tommy Bush
Nolan Edmonds
Hunter Anthony
Jeremiah Lewis
Deuntra Hyman
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 03/03/17 01:44 PM

We are talking about verbal non binding commitments right? For 2018...
Posted by: Kman_blue

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 03/03/17 01:56 PM

Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
We are talking about verbal non binding commitments right? For 2018...
No, we're talking about lifetime guaranteed, 100% binding commitments to sacrifice your own life if necessary contracts.

Are you really confused about the topic of this thread or are you again just bringing up the obvious in stupid nonsensical ways to try and diminish any optimism or enthusiasm anyone has about having the current #9 football recruiting class in the nation?
Posted by: Kman_blue

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 03/03/17 01:57 PM

Originally Posted By: dgless21
And the next comment is going to be something along the lines of "they have to sign/show up first."

On a recruiting news note, we've offered a BUNCH of Texas kids the last week.

Some of the names (on my phone, links suck):
Bryce Effner
Casey Phillips
Jalen Goss
Connor Galvin
Joshua Ezeudu
Tanner McCalister
Dayven Coleman
Jawhar Jordan Jr.
Jaray Jenkins
Tommy Bush
Nolan Edmonds
Hunter Anthony
Jeremiah Lewis
Deuntra Hyman

I also noticed they look like they've offered a bunch of guys out of Georgia this week.

Seems like they're working it hard all over where they think they can find talent. I like it.
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 03/03/17 02:24 PM

Originally Posted By: Kman_blue
Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
We are talking about verbal non binding commitments right? For 2018...
No, we're talking about lifetime guaranteed, 100% binding commitments to sacrifice your own life if necessary contracts.

Are you really confused about the topic of this thread or are you again just bringing up the obvious in stupid nonsensical ways to try and diminish any optimism or enthusiasm anyone has about having the current #9 football recruiting class in the nation?
I see we moved UP to #9 according to kman. Nice. Just keeping some reality here.
Posted by: Kman_blue

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 03/04/17 01:11 AM

According to Rivals, not me.

And if you filter the teams down to only the Big 12...oh no! KU has fallen from #1 in the Big 12 down to...#1 in the Big 12!

Oh wait...hhmmm..."just keeping some reality here".
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 03/04/17 12:22 PM

Originally Posted By: Kman_blue
According to Rivals, not me.

And if you filter the teams down to only the Big 12...oh no! KU has fallen from #1 in the Big 12 down to...#1 in the Big 12!

Oh wait...hhmmm..."just keeping some reality here".
Hey keep up the glitter news for my amusement. Hard to recruit long term (2018) if you don't coach up some valid wins. One win in two playing seasons won't cut it. But Beaty has a third season available to change my mind.
Posted by: DrGreydog

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 03/04/17 01:25 PM

Your amusement aside, I'm pretty sure changing your mind about his abilities as a head coach are not keeping him awake nights.
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 03/04/17 03:09 PM

If you mean Beaty hasn't been worried about how the fan base has graded his coaching so far, I can assure you he is worried.

He got a substantial raise from a lame duck AD. Hey he's not worried!!
Posted by: Josh2408

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 03/05/17 12:53 AM

Would it help if the NCAA did away with the verbal commitment it would force kids to sign and limit flip flopping
Posted by: Kman_blue

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 03/05/17 02:10 PM

Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
Originally Posted By: Kman_blue
According to Rivals, not me.

And if you filter the teams down to only the Big 12...oh no! KU has fallen from #1 in the Big 12 down to...#1 in the Big 12!

Oh wait...hhmmm..."just keeping some reality here".
Hey keep up the glitter news for my amusement. Hard to recruit long term (2018) if you don't coach up some valid wins. One win in two playing seasons won't cut it. But Beaty has a third season available to change my mind.
I post facts. You call it "glitter news".

You post spin and call it "keeping some reality here".

I'll go with the facts over your "reality" every time.
Posted by: Kman_blue

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 03/05/17 02:29 PM

I noticed Devonta Jason lit it up at the Adidas 7v7 National Champion camp in Las Vegas.

Here's an article from Rivals (free article otherwise I wouldn't of found it) with some quotes from him and listing him as one of the stars of the camp.


A spectacular catch he made at the camp is also all over twitter. Incredible catch by Jason video. This kid is an absolute beast of a WR!

1 of the quotes from Jason was about how he's excited to start a legacy at KU and another statement from him was about how his commitment to KU is "for real" in case you didn't want to read the Rivals article.

Love this positive national press for KU football.

Also, nice to see Harris and Jason repping KU to the doubters out there.
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 03/05/17 04:50 PM

He's still solid on KU.

https://mobile.twitter.com/JayhawkSlant/status/838470378611699712

https://mobile.twitter.com/JayhawkSlant/status/838468720951447558
Posted by: appyhawk

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 03/05/17 09:06 PM

Originally Posted By: Kman_blue
I noticed Devonta Jason lit it up at the Adidas 7v7 National Champion camp in Las Vegas.

Here's an article from Rivals (free article otherwise I wouldn't of found it) with some quotes from him and listing him as one of the stars of the camp.


A spectacular catch he made at the camp is also all over twitter. Incredible catch by Jason video. This kid is an absolute beast of a WR!

1 of the quotes from Jason was about how he's excited to start a legacy at KU and another statement from him was about how his commitment to KU is "for real" in case you didn't want to read the Rivals article.

Love this positive national press for KU football.

Also, nice to see Harris and Jason repping KU to the doubters out there.


Good stuff right there K.
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 03/07/17 07:47 AM

Some news on Kenan Jones: https://www.seccountry.com/lsu/kenan-jones-talks-de-commitment-lsu-remains-key-player

Posted by: Kman_blue

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 03/12/17 11:32 PM

Corrione Harris, one of our Louisianimal commits, just won the DB MVP of the Rivals/Adidas 3 stripe camp in NOLA.

Tweet by the camp announcing his MVP award



Kid is gonna push up the ranks some more based on these camp performances. Could be looking at two 5 star recruits in him and Jason before the ratings are done.

Really hope they stay committed to KU throughout the process and don't buy the spin others will undoubtedly be dishin them all along the way.

Give them a Rock Chalk on twitter to let them feel the Jayhawk love.

I noticed Harris has been retweeting a bunch of KU tweets and his twitter icon is still him reppin his KU hoody, which is cool.
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 03/13/17 04:45 PM

I'm not a spin master but you are so correct that it will be interesting to see if the momentary commit lasts for a year.

Edit: On 03-18-2017, the KU football team recruiting rankings for 2018 have slipped a bit (247 source). Ranked at 11-12 spot nationally with Northwestern(virtual tie on points). Still trending downward from the time we promoted the Asst Coach and gave him a hefty raise. We were at 2-3 spot nationally at one point in time in 2017. Please don't kill the messenger! Go Hawks!

Second edit: On 3-29-17, the latest team ranking mentioned above has now slipped to 16th. Same source. Everyone got raises. Keep the money if you win this year. Go hawks!
Posted by: 58hawk

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 03/29/17 06:46 PM

Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
I'm not a spin master but you are so correct that it will be interesting to see if the momentary commit lasts for a year.

Edit: On 03-18-2017, the KU football team recruiting rankings for 2018 have slipped a bit (247 source). Ranked at 11-12 spot nationally with Northwestern(virtual tie on points). Still trending downward from the time we promoted the Asst Coach and gave him a hefty raise. We were at 2-3 spot nationally at one point in time in 2017. Please don't kill the messenger! Go Hawks!

Second edit: On 3-29-17, the latest team ranking mentioned above has now slipped to 16th. Same source. Everyone got raises. Keep the money if you win this year. Go hawks!
Yawn...
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 03/30/17 06:51 AM

Originally Posted By: 58hawk
Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
I'm not a spin master but you are so correct that it will be interesting to see if the momentary commit lasts for a year.

Edit: On 03-18-2017, the KU football team recruiting rankings for 2018 have slipped a bit (247 source). Ranked at 11-12 spot nationally with Northwestern(virtual tie on points). Still trending downward from the time we promoted the Asst Coach and gave him a hefty raise. We were at 2-3 spot nationally at one point in time in 2017. Please don't kill the messenger! Go Hawks!

Second edit: On 3-29-17, the latest team ranking mentioned above has now slipped to 16th. Same source. Everyone got raises. Keep the money if you win this year. Go hawks!
Yawn...
Kman has mentioned it many times. No sarcasm. I mention it, you continue to dog my every comment. It's important barometer IMHO. And kman's...

Hey, a barometer reading can be wrong, all sunny skies ahead. A predictor in general...

Edit on 041117: 247 composite team ranking 2018 is now 17 (18) overall. Minn slipped in ahead. Nothing wrong with ranking in the top twenties, but we are trending downward lately.
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 04/01/17 05:32 PM

Kendall Davis from Augusta, KS visited this weekend.

6'4" 290ish plays DT.
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 04/01/17 05:35 PM

Demarcus Elliott - 6'4" 285 plays DL from Garden City, KS was on campus.

http://www.hudl.com/profile/4211648/demarcus-elliott

Quinton LaPointe a 5'11" 180 athlete from Garden City was also on campus.

http://www.hudl.com/profile/4211605/quinton-lapointe
Posted by: pizzanbeer

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 04/17/17 05:40 PM

Hunt looks like a good addition and Slant ranks our recruiting class #13. This early success should allow us to be more methodical about building out the rest of the class. I hope they hold off on announcing OL & DL recruiting commits until close to signing day to minimize poaching. I would like to see us add a good TE in this class since Ben Johnson is a Sr.
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 04/18/17 06:32 AM

Originally Posted By: pizzanbeer
Hunt looks like a good addition and Slant ranks our recruiting class #13. This early success should allow us to be more methodical about building out the rest of the class. I hope they hold off on announcing OL & DL recruiting commits until close to signing day to minimize poaching. I would like to see us add a good TE in this class since Ben Johnson is a Sr.
Slant is a subscription website so a link is necessary for me to check it. On 247 this morning 41817 we are 18th ranked for 2018 recruiting. Continues to trend downward.

Commits want to be publicized sooner than that. Poaching is stopped when we begin to win games, build a reputation.
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 04/18/17 08:13 AM

Originally Posted By: pizzanbeer
Hunt looks like a good addition and Slant ranks our recruiting class #13. This early success should allow us to be more methodical about building out the rest of the class. I hope they hold off on announcing OL & DL recruiting commits until close to signing day to minimize poaching. I would like to see us add a good TE in this class since Ben Johnson is a Sr.


I like that we're getting receivers with decent size and strength.

On another note - Khristian Boyd (DL) was on campus with his family. They seem close to one another, and I could imagine him staying close to them is on his mind.

I was also quite impressed to see how many 2019 dudes were there as unofficial visitors that we're already talking to.
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 04/18/17 01:11 PM

http://www.scout.com/college/kansas/story/1771675-boyd-looking-for-family-atmosphere
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 04/18/17 05:12 PM

Originally Posted By: dgless21
Originally Posted By: pizzanbeer
Hunt looks like a good addition and Slant ranks our recruiting class #13. This early success should allow us to be more methodical about building out the rest of the class. I hope they hold off on announcing OL & DL recruiting commits until close to signing day to minimize poaching. I would like to see us add a good TE in this class since Ben Johnson is a Sr.


I like that we're getting receivers with decent size and strength.

On another note - Khristian Boyd (DL) was on campus with his family. They seem close to one another, and I could imagine him staying close to them is on his mind.

I was also quite impressed to see how many 2019 dudes were there as unofficial visitors that we're already talking to.
We aren't 13th and "poaching" exists b/c we aren't a real success story, yet.
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 04/18/17 05:15 PM

If Beaty wins 2 in 2017 his record would be 5-31. No one can hide that elephant in the room.
Posted by: 58hawk

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 04/18/17 05:21 PM

Recruiting class 13th as well per Rivals.
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 04/18/17 05:22 PM

Originally Posted By: 58hawk
Recruiting class 13th as well per Rivals.
Linky?

58- 2 wins this year shows improved program? Just wanting opinions
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 04/19/17 09:03 AM

Originally Posted By: 58hawk
Recruiting class 13th as well per Rivals.


It definitely won't be sustained, but it is damn cool to see that.

JaMarr Chase, Kelvin Joseph, along with some local dudes and our current commits would make me content.
Posted by: 58hawk

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 04/19/17 10:27 AM

Originally Posted By: dgless21
Originally Posted By: 58hawk
Recruiting class 13th as well per Rivals.


It definitely won't be sustained, but it is damn cool to see that.

JaMarr Chase, Kelvin Joseph, along with some local dudes and our current commits would make me content.
Probably not but even if we make the top 25 that is still pretty impressive especially with where the program has been.
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 04/20/17 01:10 PM

Originally Posted By: 58hawk
Originally Posted By: dgless21
Originally Posted By: 58hawk
Recruiting class 13th as well per Rivals.


It definitely won't be sustained, but it is damn cool to see that.

JaMarr Chase, Kelvin Joseph, along with some local dudes and our current commits would make me content.
Probably not but even if we make the top 25 that is still pretty impressive especially with where the program has been.
Realistically we could maintain top 50. Not top 20.
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 04/24/17 07:18 PM

Added a commit from Mac Copeland - 6'5", 250ish from Wichita Collegiate.

Mac Copeland‏ @Mac_Copeland 1h
Excited to announce I've received and accepted an offer from the University of Kansas! Thank you family and friends for the support! #RCJH
Posted by: pizzanbeer

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 04/25/17 05:40 PM

If Beaty is going to get early OL and DL commits then I would rather they be local HS players. That increases the odds they will stick with their commitment.
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 04/25/17 06:12 PM

He has mentioned over and over that his goal is to find kids with big frames that can move and add the weight we want on them while they're at KU. This is opposed to adding giant dudes that can't move and trying to teach them to move.
Posted by: pizzanbeer

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 04/25/17 07:36 PM

Originally Posted By: dgless21
He has mentioned over and over that his goal is to find kids with big frames that can move and add the weight we want on them while they're at KU. This is opposed to adding giant dudes that can't move and trying to teach them to move.


Have you looked at the OL recruits Beaty has offered for 2018? They are heavier players than what KU has offered under Beaty in the past. Beaty probably realizes he needs naturally heavier, more powerful OL players to open up holes for his improved group of RBs. They still need to be mobile but they also need to have more power to push DL players out of the way when running the ball.
Posted by: Kman_blue

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 04/26/17 10:22 PM

Originally Posted By: dgless21
Added a commit from Mac Copeland - 6'5", 250ish from Wichita Collegiate.

Mac Copeland‏ @Mac_Copeland 1h
Excited to announce I've received and accepted an offer from the University of Kansas! Thank you family and friends for the support! #RCJH
Kid is real athletic. Looks more like a basketball player right now, but has the frame to add a good amount of weight IMO. He falls in line with many of the other OL recruits KU has offered over the past 3 years.

I believe his parents are both KU grads, but both his older brothers played football at ksu. Not sure how much contact the pig farmers have had with him, but he looked like he was having a good time at our spring game when I saw him.
Posted by: pizzanbeer

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 04/29/17 04:55 PM

Originally Posted By: dgless21
He has mentioned over and over that his goal is to find kids with big frames that can move and add the weight we want on them while they're at KU. This is opposed to adding giant dudes that can't move and trying to teach them to move.


The other thing to consider is Meacham as the new OC. When Meacham was at TCU over the last 3 recruiting classes most of their OL recruits were in the 280 lbs on up range. I expect Meacham will want similar sized OL recruits at KU. The OL recruits are still going to be mobile just 20 - 30 lbs heavier on average.

One thing that is not a subject of speculation is that our running game was bad the last 2 seasons. We have to change something with our OL recruiting to get better results from our running game. Beaty will have to get more wins this season to reel in those targets so we will see what happens. I am glad to see the success Beaty is having with bringing in bigger OL players via transfer. Now he needs to make similar progress with his regular OL recruiting.
Posted by: Josh2408

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 04/30/17 12:56 AM

My dream Oline is 5 guys at 6'4-6'5 and 315-320 pounds, kinda Will Shields and Willie Roaf types
Posted by: schmuck34

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 04/30/17 12:08 PM

Oh you want 17-18 year olds at NFL size. That's logical.
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 05/04/17 02:24 PM

Originally Posted By: schmuck34
Oh you want 17-18 year olds at NFL size. That's logical.
I think we are thinking of linemen who can naturally blossom into potential NFL size smuk
Posted by: John_Brown

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 05/06/17 05:22 PM

What's the current status of the Louisiana prospects?

Thanks.

Rock Chalk Jayhawk, Beat Mizzou
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 05/06/17 07:19 PM

Originally Posted By: John_Brown
What's the current status of the Louisiana prospects?

Thanks.

Rock Chalk Jayhawk, Beat Mizzou
If you are asking me? No new news SO FAR!!

If it happens I will be applauding! If it doesn't pan out, the salary increases roll back, right?
Posted by: Kman_blue

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 05/10/17 06:07 PM

Originally Posted By: John_Brown
What's the current status of the Louisiana prospects?

Thanks.

Rock Chalk Jayhawk, Beat Mizzou
Still all committed. We also made the top 7 or 4 of a couple of others out of The Boot.

Kelvin Joseph, the #1 recruit out of Louisiana according to Rivals has scheduled a visit to KU now. Probably a long shot, but getting him to come visit is still a VERY BIG DEAL IMHO. I also think it improves our odds of getting him once he comes and sees things here for himself. Still a tough one to get no matter what. It's also nice that he mentions KU, Alabama, and Florida State as his first 3 visits set up. (His tweet about the 3)

Harris has actually been having some fun with fans of other schools on twitter about his commitment to KU. I think this kid is as solid on KU right now as any of our current commitments.

Jason hasn't been talking much about his commitment or recruiting in general, but he's still committed. I also think he and Harris are close which helps things out as like I said, I think Harris is solid right now.

Oh, and Pooka Williams just finished 3rd in the Louisiana state HS track and field championships with a jump of 6'4". Not bad for a kid who stands at 5'9". I think he's just as solid on KU as Harris is too. This kid is probably our sleeper of the Louisianimals right now IMHO. He's a physical beast for his size.
Posted by: 58hawk

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 05/11/17 10:36 AM

Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
Originally Posted By: John_Brown
What's the current status of the Louisiana prospects?

Thanks.

Rock Chalk Jayhawk, Beat Mizzou
If you are asking me? No new news SO FAR!!

If it happens I will be applauding! If it doesn't pan out, the salary increases roll back, right?
Yeah, like the "Dream Team".
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 05/11/17 10:50 AM

Let's point out that, the dream team coach had a fully guaranteed contract (which cost nearly 8.5M for him not to coach).

Beaty, one of the lowest paid power five coaches, would only be owed $3M if he receives a "no cause" firing.

Similarly, he's financially attached to KU. If Beaty chooses to leave prior to Dec. 31, 2018, he would be responsible for a $3 million buyout. That amount drops to $2 million in 2019-20 and $1 million in 2021.
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 05/11/17 04:55 PM

Andru Tovi‏ @andruuu69 19h
Committed to Kansas University🔵🔴 #JayHawks #RockChalk #Blessed #B12 #Excited

Interesting this hasn't gotten much pub from the recruiting sites.

Pima CC JUCO, plays guard or center, 6'3", 320. 3 stars coming out of HS.

HS Recruiting page - http://247sports.com/player/andru-tovi-80356
Posted by: pizzanbeer

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 05/11/17 05:31 PM

Maybe because Beaty hasn't sent out a #NeatDeal? Then you have to ask yourself why Beaty wouldn't tweet neat deal and my guess is that it's because they want him to be a blue shirt and play for KU this season. That's why I think it is best if you take down your post. Your post will alert other teams to go after him. After all we did lose 2 OLs and 2 DTs to poaching in the last recruiting class.
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 05/12/17 08:28 AM

Article on Tovi - http://pimaaztecs.com/sports/fball/2016-17/releases/20170510ot38c3

Credit to jhawkin27 at phog.net
Posted by: schmuck34

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 05/12/17 09:11 AM

Good work Dgless I hadn't caught this one.
Posted by: Kman_blue

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 05/12/17 03:57 PM

Originally Posted By: dgless21
Andru Tovi‏ @andruuu69 19h
Committed to Kansas University🔵🔴 #JayHawks #RockChalk #Blessed #B12 #Excited

Interesting this hasn't gotten much pub from the recruiting sites.

Pima CC JUCO, plays guard or center, 6'3", 320. 3 stars coming out of HS.

HS Recruiting page - http://247sports.com/player/andru-tovi-80356
Heard it's not "official" yet, so coach Beaty can't say anything cause of NCAA rules. I think it'll become official toward the end of July or so.

Also, Pizzanbeer is right in that he's technically fair game for any other school to recruit him until the time it becomes official. Have heard the kid is 100% on KU though, and it sounds like he's shut down his recruitment now. He sounds like the type who's made up his mind and it isn't changing.
Posted by: pizzanbeer

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 05/12/17 08:17 PM

Since the cat's out of the bag I would guess Tovi plays at guard and Bragg moves to center due to Gibson and Ribordy having injuries. I read that Gibson has a serious injury and Ribordy has a knee injury that kept him out of spring football.
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 05/12/17 08:34 PM

Ribordy was hurt early in spring, but it wasn't expected to keep him out long term. He'll be ready for the season.

Gibson is done. Career-ending neck injury according to Keegan.

Curious if Hannon will work into the starting lineup.
Posted by: pizzanbeer

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 05/12/17 08:52 PM

It is good to see Beaty adding bigger players on OL. Hannon weighs 315 and Tovi 320. That should help our running game especially close to the goal line and 3rd and short and 4th and short.
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 05/14/17 11:19 AM

Sounds like Tuvi will have 4 years to play 3, and he plans to be here this summer.
Posted by: EstebanBugatti

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 05/14/17 03:28 PM

Originally Posted By: pizzanbeer
It is good to see Beaty adding bigger players on OL. Hannon weighs 315 and Tovi 320. That should help our running game especially close to the goal line and 3rd and short and 4th and short.


I'm sorry but there is no way Tovi is only 320lbs. If I had to guess, I'd say he's closer to the 340-350 range. Dude is built like a brick wall but it looks like he can move around very well. He's going to need to slim down a bit as soon as he arrives. Put him next to Baldwin though and the right side of the line is going to be pushing everyone around.
Posted by: pizzanbeer

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 05/14/17 04:49 PM

The Pima Community College roster lists Tovi at 310.
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 05/15/17 07:54 PM

Added a juco DT from Coffeyville - Zach Burks. 6'3", 290. 2018.

http://www2.kusports.com/news/2017/may/15/former-olathe-d-lineman-zach-burks-commits-kansas/
Posted by: pizzanbeer

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 05/15/17 07:58 PM

Local DT Zach Burks commits. Beaty continues the trend of adding local OL and DL recruits early which should make them harder to poach. He can announce OL and DL commits from out of state closer to the new early signing day when there is less time for other programs to swoop in and steal them.
Posted by: moose1

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 05/15/17 08:16 PM

Originally Posted By: pizzanbeer
It is good to see Beaty adding bigger players on OL. Hannon weighs 315 and Tovi 320. That should help our running game especially close to the goal line and 3rd and short and 4th and short.


While size helps, it is not the be all end all. It seems like some of KUs bigger players recently haven't been that good. Then there was the Broncos line some years back that was one of the smallest in the league but they had one of the best running games. As long as they are still athletic and can effectively use that size great. If that one lineman is really 350lbs that will not work.
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 05/19/17 02:23 PM

It seems like a while for any new news, but this time of year is sometimes when bad stuff happens so let's keep the guys out of the newspaper and hopefully get better on the field!
Posted by: vmlb

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 05/21/17 02:31 PM

Originally Posted By: pizzanbeer
Local DT Zach Burks commits. Beaty continues the trend of adding local OL and DL recruits early which should make them harder to poach. He can announce OL and DL commits from out of state closer to the new early signing day when there is less time for other programs to swoop in and steal them.


Where is this idea that other teams are "poaching" KU recruits? Do other coaches not recruit players and just wait for the list of KU commits to do their recruiting?
Like Self? He doesn't recruit and waits for Townsend to announce their commits and then he goes after them. Is that how it works?
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 05/21/17 07:16 PM

Well, I heard directly from Beaty's mouth that the OU coaching staff (specifically Cale Gundy) was notorious for seeing KU being in on or getting from a verbal a decent recruit, and they'd immediately scout, offer, and try to flip them to OU.
Posted by: vmlb

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 05/22/17 09:14 AM

So OU owes their numerous championships to KU recruiting? Beaty needs to pull one over on them and recruit crappy players.
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 05/22/17 03:08 PM

Yeah, no one said that at all.

However, when you can skip over the work of determining a player's character, doing the leg work on visiting schools/watching HS games, and jump straight to watching a few minutes of film and offering...and having the prestige to pull those players, it gets frustrating.
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 05/22/17 03:17 PM

Originally Posted By: vmlb
So OU owes their numerous championships to KU recruiting? Beaty needs to pull one over on them and recruit crappy players.
Pretty sure he has been doing just that!
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 05/22/17 03:19 PM

Originally Posted By: dgless21
Well, I heard directly from Beaty's mouth that the OU coaching staff (specifically Cale Gundy) was notorious for seeing KU being in on or getting from a verbal a decent recruit, and they'd immediately scout, offer, and try to flip them to OU.
Does Alabama do that same thing by stealing Kentucky players?
Posted by: Kman_blue

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 05/22/17 06:16 PM

Originally Posted By: vmlb
Originally Posted By: pizzanbeer
Local DT Zach Burks commits. Beaty continues the trend of adding local OL and DL recruits early which should make them harder to poach. He can announce OL and DL commits from out of state closer to the new early signing day when there is less time for other programs to swoop in and steal them.


Where is this idea that other teams are "poaching" KU recruits? Do other coaches not recruit players and just wait for the list of KU commits to do their recruiting?
Like Self? He doesn't recruit and waits for Townsend to announce their commits and then he goes after them. Is that how it works?
As Dgless21 said, OU has been targeting a lot of KU verbal commitments over the past couple of years. I believe right after our HUGE recruiting score on our 1st Junior Day weekend, OU immediately offered or tried to flip 3 of those guys. Also, within a couple of days of KU offering several guys in the KC metro area OU flew in and visited their schools and offered a few of them as well.

Of course OU does their own recruiting, but they've also been actively targeting a lot of KU verbal commitment guys immediately after those guys have given their verbal to KU over the past couple of years. They've also offered a lot of guys within a day or 2 of KU offering them. Way too many times that both of these type of things has happened for it not to be purposeful.

Also, as Dgless21 noted the KU coaches are aware of this and have mentioned it a couple of times over the past couple of years at alumni/fan events or directly to people who've talked to them personally.

Recently a couple of other schools seem to have jumped on board with a similar targeting of KU verbals/recent offers, but none to the extent OU has been doing it. It would appear that several schools trust KU's evaluations and therefore they immediately take notice of the guys we're targeting or getting and then only do their own cursory look at those guys and immediately offer the ones who pass that test for them.
Posted by: Kman_blue

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 05/22/17 06:35 PM

Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
Originally Posted By: vmlb
So OU owes their numerous championships to KU recruiting? Beaty needs to pull one over on them and recruit crappy players.
Pretty sure he has been doing just that!
OK, if you ever show up at any KU football related event let Wise, Lee, Armstrong, Adeniji, Sims, Dineen, Loneker, Ribordy, or some of the new guys like Baldwin, Charlot, and Defense know how crappy they are.

Oh, who am I kidding, you'll NEVER show up.

This snippy comment from you either was a very bad attempt at humor or shows complete ignorance of a lot of things by you.
Posted by: pizzanbeer

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 05/22/17 07:04 PM

Originally Posted By: vmlb
Where is this idea that other teams are "poaching" KU recruits? Do other coaches not recruit players and just wait for the list of KU commits to do their recruiting?
Like Self? He doesn't recruit and waits for Townsend to announce their commits and then he goes after them. Is that how it works?


Your comment indicates you don't understand how recruiting via poaching works.
Posted by: appyhawk

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 05/22/17 11:46 PM

Poaching of our recruiting targets is just something we'll have to deal with until we have proof we are building a winning program. This year and next should be steps in that direction.
Posted by: Kman_blue

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 05/23/17 09:56 AM

So far, it really hasn't worked with any of our verbals/targets for the 2018 class yet. Maybe with the exception of Jenkins, though he committed when he didn't think his dream school (LSU) was going to offer him. KU's offer and his commitment kind of forced LSU's hand to put up or shut up at the time, so it wasn't really a typical poaching attempt.

It also doesn't look like the poaching attempts on any of our current verbals will work either as they seem more solid with KU than in the previous few years. I know OU put the full court press on Harris and Jason about 2 or 3 weeks after they committed to KU and it didn't work. Also, the targets/verbals that a couple of other schools went after right on the heels of KU offering or getting their verbal hasn't worked yet this year either.

So, it looks like we may have already taken steps in that direction.
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 05/23/17 11:06 AM

Originally Posted By: Kman_blue
Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
Originally Posted By: vmlb
So OU owes their numerous championships to KU recruiting? Beaty needs to pull one over on them and recruit crappy players.
Pretty sure he has been doing just that!
OK, if you ever show up at any KU football related event let Wise, Lee, Armstrong, Adeniji, Sims, Dineen, Loneker, Ribordy, or some of the new guys like Baldwin, Charlot, and Defense know how crappy they are.

Oh, who am I kidding, you'll NEVER show up.

This snippy comment from you either was a very bad attempt at humor or shows complete ignorance of a lot of things by you.
Yes, humor attempt, but it still rings true somehow...we all hope you are as smart as you believe.
Posted by: Kman_blue

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 05/23/17 02:10 PM

Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
Yes, humor attempt, but it still rings true somehow...we all hope you are as smart as you believe.
Dunno about how smart you think that I believe I am, but I do know that anyone with eyes or ears, or both and a brain can tell we've recruited some really talented players over the past couple of years. We've got several committed for the 2018 class too.
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 05/23/17 02:32 PM

Kman, you're arguing with the Laura Bauer of the football board.

He doesn't have facts. He doesn't consider other viewpoints or explanations. He posts garbage just for attention.
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 05/23/17 04:49 PM

Originally Posted By: Kman_blue
Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
Yes, humor attempt, but it still rings true somehow...we all hope you are as smart as you believe.
Dunno about how smart you think that I believe I am, but I do know that anyone with eyes or ears, or both and a brain can tell we've recruited some really talented players over the past couple of years. We've got several committed for the 2018 class too.
Independance Day movie reference but anyway let's all hope we get something started this year after two years of recess by Beaty.

I want the team to win games, not intimidate me at football related events for being truthful!
Posted by: 58hawk

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 05/23/17 06:20 PM

Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
Originally Posted By: Kman_blue
Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
Yes, humor attempt, but it still rings true somehow...we all hope you are as smart as you believe.
Dunno about how smart you think that I believe I am, but I do know that anyone with eyes or ears, or both and a brain can tell we've recruited some really talented players over the past couple of years. We've got several committed for the 2018 class too.
Independance Day movie reference but anyway let's all hope we get something started this year after two years of recess by Beaty.

I want the team to win games, not intimidate me at football related events for being truthful!
In other words you want to be sold a bad bag of goods down the river like Chaz did.
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 05/24/17 09:30 AM

58- I was "kidding on the square", so lighten up!
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 05/24/17 11:02 AM

Originally Posted By: dgless21
Kman, you're arguing with the Laura Bauer of the football board.

He doesn't have facts. He doesn't consider other viewpoints or explanations. He posts garbage just for attention.
Is that a Twin Peaks reference? Don't know any Bauers...

I have facts but they correspond with the win-loss record over the last two seasons and three off seasons. You don't agree that it should be better. Dream on.
Posted by: pizzanbeer

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 05/24/17 07:18 PM

It was a good thing we missed on Darta Lee. "Three Illinois football players were arrested on Wednesday on charges of home invasion and armed robbery after an alleged incident at a school dormitory.

Darta Lee, Zarrian Holcombe and Howard Watkins were all booked throughout Wednesday morning at Champaign County Jail, according to online records. Illinois coach Lovie Smith announced Wednesday that Darta Lee, Zarrian Holcombe and Howard Watkins have all been dismissed from the program. All three remain in jail on $150,000 bond, meaning they must pay $15,000 to make bail."
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 05/25/17 01:31 PM

As of the 25th of May, 247 football recruiting team rankings for 2018 has shown a bit of slippage for the Jayhawks. Now currently ranked 27th still trending downward. If you recall, I said we would be highly successful if we maintained a position in the top 50. I was slammed for being realistic... "He doesn't have facts." and so on...
Posted by: 58hawk

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 05/25/17 01:47 PM

23rd per Rivals.
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 05/25/17 02:36 PM

Poor Laura. So mistreated.
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 05/25/17 07:03 PM

Originally Posted By: dgless21
Poor Laura. So mistreated.
What did you do??
Posted by: Kman_blue

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 05/26/17 01:03 AM

Since this is such a slow time of year for much real football news, let's look at the rankings right now.

According to Rivals here's how the Big 12 teams rank as of today.

School_Nat. Rank_#Recruits_Tot. Pts.
BU_____#11___13___998
OKSU___#13___12___968
UT_____#18____8___866
OU_____#22____7___806
KU_____#23____9___799
TCU____#29___7___545
ISU_____#31___9___540
WVU____#51___5___345
TTU____#59___4___255
ksu____#100___1___0

A few schools have added several new recruits over the past 4 weeks with Baylor adding 8 and OSU added 5. UT picked up their highest rated recruit over this time as well, but most teams added between 0 and 3 averagely rated(according to Rivals) recruits.

If you break it down by the average rating per recruit per school then you get a somewhat different ranking.

School_Big12Rank_Avg.Star_Avg.Points
OU_____#1____Mid 4 Star___115.1
UT_____#2____Low 4 Star___108.3
KU_____#3____High 3 Star___88.8
OSU____#4___Mid 3 Star___80.7
TCU____#5___Mid 3 Star___77.9
BU_____#6___Mid 3 Star___76.8
WVU____#7___Low 3 Star___69.0
TTU____#8___Low 3 Star___63.8
ISU____#9___Low 3 Star___60.0
ksu____#10___No Star____00.0

Obviously ksu's lone verbal hasn't been rated yet, but if I had to guess what his initial rating will be, I'd say he'll probably be rated a mid level 3 star which means he'd get 75 points from Rivals. That means they'd be roughly #7 in this list with their lone recruit, but also some schools, like KU for instance, has at least 1 recruit who hasn't been rated yet either. So, the list would surely shift some as Rivals continues to update their ratings system and give initial ratings to recruits.

Anyway you look at it though, I think KU is still looking to be in relatively good shape compared to the other D-1 schools and the other Big 12 schools right now. We've also made the top cut for a few higher rated recruits too. Hopefully we'll snag a couple of them also.

KU being the #2 recruiting class in the nation was fun and impressive, even if it was only for a few weeks. Not many D-1 schools can even claim that accomplishment in recruiting. Recruiting rankings can and do change on virtually a daily basis and I expect a lot more movement before it's all said and done.
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 05/26/17 01:50 PM

Yes trending downward I suspect. Safety/RB from Free State, a local boy, left for Coffeyville CC. Not a good thing to lose the local support.
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 05/26/17 07:15 PM

Jonathan Lolohea visiting June 9th and 11th.

6'3", 310, Juco Defensive Tackle

Offers from TCU, WSU, KSU, Zona, CU, CSU, Maryland, ISU, etc

http://247sports.com/player/jonathan-lolohea-46040120
Posted by: Kman_blue

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 05/26/17 11:36 PM

Originally Posted By: dgless21
Jonathan Lolohea visiting June 9th and 11th.

6'3", 310, Juco Defensive Tackle

Offers from TCU, WSU, KSU, Zona, CU, CSU, Maryland, ISU, etc

http://247sports.com/player/jonathan-lolohea-46040120
I like this guy's game. He would be a big get for us IMHO.

Hope he enjoys his visit enough to commit!
Posted by: Kman_blue

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 05/26/17 11:59 PM

Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
Yes trending downward I suspect. Safety/RB from Free State, a local boy, left for Coffeyville CC. Not a good thing to lose the local support.
Heard he left because he thought he wasn't going to be able to earn enough playing time. Tough break, but if he saw the writing on the wall that he wasn't gonna be good enough to be more than a ST's and/or practice only type guy, I don't blame him for leaving. The practice only type guys put in all the same blood sweat and tears that everyone else does, but never get the game day playing time. Those guys are the unsung heroes on any team IMHO as they sacrifice a lot for the team and the love of the game.

Also, when you start at the top there's nowhere to go but down some. If Rivals rates our 1 currently unrated commit soon then KU would leap frog back up to the #3 spot in the Big 12 and #18 in the country in the Rivals rankings.

I suppose you're also upset about the quality of our average recruit rating now too? Something you b!tched a lot about in the previous 2 classes. Whenever Rivals rates our currently unrated commit, KU's average recruit rating would go up to a low 4 star level. I guess you'd find a way to b!tch about it still or minimize it to the extent that you'd paint it as a negative in some way that KU's average recruit rating was only the 2nd or 3rd best in the Big 12.
Posted by: 58hawk

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 05/27/17 10:09 AM

Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
Yes trending downward I suspect. Safety/RB from Free State, a local boy, left for Coffeyville CC. Not a good thing to lose the local support.
The only reason he left is that he wanted to play running back and not safety. But I guess reading escapes you.
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 05/27/17 10:26 AM

Originally Posted By: 58hawk
Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
Yes trending downward I suspect. Safety/RB from Free State, a local boy, left for Coffeyville CC. Not a good thing to lose the local support.
The only reason he left is that he wanted to play running back and not safety. But I guess reading escapes you.
He wanted more playing time than what he got with KU. If he was good enough to recruit here and is now leaving, it leaves a bad ending for future locals to see. I don't know what YOU read...
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 05/27/17 11:38 AM

Originally Posted By: Kman_blue
Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
Yes trending downward I suspect. Safety/RB from Free State, a local boy, left for Coffeyville CC. Not a good thing to lose the local support.
...when you start at the top there's nowhere to go but down some. If Rivals rates our 1 currently unrated commit soon then KU would leap frog back up to the #3 spot in the Big 12 and #18 in the country in the Rivals rankings.

I suppose you're also upset about the quality of our average recruit rating now too? Something you b!tched a lot about in the previous 2 classes. Whenever Rivals rates our currently unrated commit, KU's average recruit rating would go up to a low 4 star level. I guess you'd find a way to b!tch about it still or minimize it to the extent that you'd paint it as a negative in some way that KU's average recruit rating was only the 2nd or 3rd best in the Big 12.
Just pointing out some facts about the 2018 recruiting rankings lately. We gave out some salary based on the good work done on early recruiting. Also, the individual recruits so far are superior to the last two classes on paper. I can't b!tch about that nor do I want to.
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 05/27/17 11:48 AM

More stupid posts from Laura.
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 05/27/17 01:49 PM

Originally Posted By: dgless21
More stupid posts from Laura.
Bite me
Posted by: 58hawk

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 05/27/17 06:32 PM

Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
Originally Posted By: 58hawk
Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
Yes trending downward I suspect. Safety/RB from Free State, a local boy, left for Coffeyville CC. Not a good thing to lose the local support.
The only reason he left is that he wanted to play running back and not safety. But I guess reading escapes you.
He wanted more playing time than what he got with KU. If he was good enough to recruit here and is now leaving, it leaves a bad ending for future locals to see. I don't know what YOU read...
My point is that he wasn't even on the depth chart at RB. We are already pretty loaded at that position. Prove that it would be a bad ending for future locals?
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 05/27/17 09:00 PM

He was a fr redshirted safety with HS RB experience. So I agree with your comment about depth chart. Had nothing to do with my comments about the end results for future local recruits and their families.
Posted by: 58hawk

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 05/28/17 10:17 PM

Bottom line is that locals don't care about something so small and irrelevant.
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 05/28/17 11:29 PM

Originally Posted By: 58hawk
Bottom line is that locals don't care about something so small and irrelevant.
Totally disagree that he is small and irrelevant in the locals eyes. I grew up in Lawrence and our HS RB stars are a source of local pride.
Posted by: 58hawk

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 05/29/17 09:44 AM

Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
Originally Posted By: 58hawk
Bottom line is that locals don't care about something so small and irrelevant.
Totally disagree that he is small and irrelevant in the locals eyes. I grew up in Lawrence and our HS RB stars are a source of local pride.
Well opinions vary...
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 05/29/17 02:23 PM

Originally Posted By: 58hawk
Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
Originally Posted By: 58hawk
Bottom line is that locals don't care about something so small and irrelevant.
Totally disagree that he is small and irrelevant in the locals eyes. I grew up in Lawrence and our HS RB stars are a source of local pride.
Well opinions vary...
The Lawrence football families talk to each other 58. It's a big deal...
Posted by: Kman_blue

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 05/29/17 05:02 PM

Then the local Lawrence football families will know the story behind why he's leaving and understand it didn't look like he was going to be competing for a spot in the starting rotation anytime soon if ever.

They'll also know about the Dineen's and their success at KU so far. They'll also know about how Torneden has been talked about as being in the mix to compete for a spot in the starting rotation this year.

Skwarlo leaving isn't going to sour any local Lawrence football recruit on KU, nor their families opinion either. That's a silly assertion with nothing to back it up.
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 05/29/17 05:33 PM

Skwarlo wasn't forced out. He chose to leave. How does that make KU look bad?

He's a 6'0", 205 dude that runs a 4.65ish.

Dom, Octavious, Thompson, Khalil, Martin, and a few other walk ons at running back already. We're realistically talking about him competing for 6th on the depth chart at best.
Posted by: track

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 05/29/17 06:03 PM

Originally Posted By: Kman_blue
Then the local Lawrence football families will know the story behind why he's leaving and understand it didn't look like he was going to be competing for a spot in the starting rotation anytime soon if ever.

They'll also know about the Dineen's and their success at KU so far. They'll also know about how Torneden has been talked about as being in the mix to compete for a spot in the starting rotation this year.

Skwarlo leaving isn't going to sour any local Lawrence football recruit on KU, nor their families opinion either. That's a silly assertion with nothing to back it up.

It's not just silly it's purposely erroneous to belittle the program under DB. That's what kuco does. That's his thing.... sadly
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 05/29/17 08:52 PM

I guess my contacts in the community are nothing. Born in Lawrence and went to LHS after playing for Coach Nanny Duver at CJH in the storied football program along with my eventual brother in law. The local kids families don't care a whit when a local goes elsewhere.
Jeebus.

If we thought John Hadl sucked as a local, I guess it would be ok as well. After all they are irrelevant and small to the big timers.
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 05/29/17 09:23 PM

Originally Posted By: track
Originally Posted By: Kman_blue
Then the local Lawrence football families will know the story behind why he's leaving and understand it didn't look like he was going to be competing for a spot in the starting rotation anytime soon if ever.

They'll also know about the Dineen's and their success at KU so far. They'll also know about how Torneden has been talked about as being in the mix to compete for a spot in the starting rotation this year.

Skwarlo leaving isn't going to sour any local Lawrence football recruit on KU, nor their families opinion either. That's a silly assertion with nothing to back it up.

It's not just silly it's purposely erroneous to belittle the program under DB. That's what kuco does. That's his thing.... sadly
Preaching to the choir today I see, track.
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 05/29/17 09:26 PM

Laura making up sources in Lawrence would not surprise anyone.
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 05/29/17 09:32 PM

Originally Posted By: dgless21
Laura making up sources in Lawrence would not surprise anyone.
Bite me
Posted by: Kman_blue

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 05/29/17 10:06 PM

Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
I guess my contacts in the community are nothing. Born in Lawrence and went to LHS after playing for Coach Nanny Duver at CJH in the storied football program along with my eventual brother in law. The local kids families don't care a whit when a local goes elsewhere.
Jeebus.

If we thought John Hadl sucked as a local, I guess it would be ok as well. After all they are irrelevant and small to the big timers.


Posted by: track

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 05/29/17 10:25 PM

LMAO
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 05/30/17 09:53 AM

Let's be real. We have four Lawrence dudes still on the roster with at least two more joining in Dineen and Brungardt joining this summer or fall. Besides Randall, we've seen Dineen, Tornedon, and Loneker all have an impact. Brungardt provides a competition with Liam at kicker and Jay Dineen will most likely compete at LB. It's obvious if you're local with talent, you'll get a chance.

Add in other Kansas guys like Ribordy, Shadler, Gibson, Saulsbury, and a few others that walked on and it's obvious that you get a chance if you work and can hold your own.

Chicken Little Laura wants to make a big deal out of it because that's what she does. She won't admit the program sucked before Beaty, and every little thing under his watch is turned into the sky falling without any factual basis and made up sources.
Posted by: 58hawk

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 05/30/17 10:58 AM

Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
I guess my contacts in the community are nothing. Born in Lawrence and went to LHS after playing for Coach Nanny Duver at CJH in the storied football program along with my eventual brother in law. The local kids families don't care a whit when a local goes elsewhere.
Jeebus.

If we thought John Hadl sucked as a local, I guess it would be ok as well. After all they are irrelevant and small to the big timers.
So you are comparing the talent level of Swardo to Hadl?
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 05/30/17 11:46 AM

Originally Posted By: dgless21
Chicken Little Laura wants to make a big deal out of it because that's what she does. She won't admit the program sucked before Beaty, and every little thing under his watch is turned into the sky falling without any factual basis and made up sources.
And he/she/it21 takes my moderate comment "it's not good news" to another level...

I don't give praise for running off locals.
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 05/30/17 11:48 AM

Originally Posted By: 58hawk
Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
If we thought John Hadl sucked as a local, I guess it would be ok as well. After all they are irrelevant and small to the big timers.
So you are comparing the talent level of [b]Swardo [/b]to Hadl?
Again you fail reading comprehension 101. "If"...

Young man's name is Skwarlo, not what you said.
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 05/30/17 11:54 AM

Chicken Little Laura doesn't ever give Beaty credit, and she's notorious for making [censored] up.
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 05/30/17 12:20 PM

Devonta Jason up to five stars on rivals.
Posted by: kylecof11

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 05/30/17 12:54 PM

Originally Posted By: dgless21
Devonta Jason up to five stars on rivals.


This is big time for the program. I think Harris will be close behind too. That dude is MVP of almost every camp he attends.

Those Louisanimals are big time players.
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 05/30/17 01:25 PM

Originally Posted By: dgless21
Chicken Little Laura doesn't ever give Beaty credit, and she's notorious for making [censored] up.
He/sh/it21 has a bromance with DB. What about this making up crap? I see the sun come up and go down without any unicorn prancing.
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 05/30/17 01:51 PM

I have no reason to dislike Beaty. He's moving the program in the right direction unlike your pal Weis.

If repeatedly tearing down Beaty is the way you support KU, I'd suggest you stick to your CSU support.
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 05/30/17 02:20 PM

Originally Posted By: dgless21
I have no reason to dislike Beaty. He's moving the program in the right direction unlike your pal Weis.

If repeatedly tearing down Beaty is the way you support KU, I'd suggest you stick to your CSU support.
I do think Bobo at CSU is light years better at coaching than your BF. Beaty doesn't excite a lot of the fanbase (based upon ticket sales figures). Not just me. Weis is a better coach but we caught him after his health decline. Partly his own fault but still wasn't given any AD support beyond a bushel of dough. Sounds like the latest coach, getting some dough but no results yet.
Posted by: 58hawk

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 05/30/17 04:27 PM

Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
Originally Posted By: dgless21
I have no reason to dislike Beaty. He's moving the program in the right direction unlike your pal Weis.

If repeatedly tearing down Beaty is the way you support KU, I'd suggest you stick to your CSU support.
I do think Bobo at CSU is light years better at coaching than your BF. Beaty doesn't excite a lot of the fanbase (based upon ticket sales figures). Not just me. Weis is a better coach but we caught him after his health decline. Partly his own fault but still wasn't given any AD support beyond a bushel of dough. Sounds like the latest coach, getting some dough but no results yet.
Wow. You are really full of it today. Weis is a better coach? How is that? How about that famous dream team and games he was suppose to win and didn't. And please provide us with details on season ticket sales. Source? A little early to really judge ticket sales.
Posted by: 58hawk

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 05/30/17 04:32 PM

You are a spastic.
Posted by: 58hawk

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 05/30/17 04:34 PM

Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
Originally Posted By: 58hawk
Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
If we thought John Hadl sucked as a local, I guess it would be ok as well. After all they are irrelevant and small to the big timers.
So you are comparing the talent level of [b]Swardo [/b]to Hadl?
Again you fail reading comprehension 101. "If"...

Young man's name is Skwarlo, not what you said.
Yeah whatever. Ever heard of a typo moron?
Posted by: 58hawk

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 05/30/17 04:38 PM

Jason now upgraded to 5 star and first 5 star in KU history. Put that in your pipe and smoke it cuckoo.
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 05/30/17 04:52 PM

Originally Posted By: 58hawk
Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
Originally Posted By: 58hawk
Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
If we thought John Hadl sucked as a local, I guess it would be ok as well. After all they are irrelevant and small to the big timers.
So you are comparing the talent level of [b]Swardo [/b]to Hadl?
Again you fail reading comprehension 101. "If"...

Young man's name is Skwarlo, not what you said.
Yeah whatever. Ever heard of a typo moron?
If anyone is crowned "typo moron" it's you.
Posted by: 58hawk

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 05/30/17 04:55 PM

Young man's name is Skwarlo, not what you said.[/quote] Yeah whatever. Ever heard of a typo moron? [/quote]If anyone is crowned "typo moron" it's you. [/quote] You never did answer my question. Oh well, consider the source...
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 05/30/17 05:01 PM

Originally Posted By: 58hawk
Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
Originally Posted By: dgless21
I have no reason to dislike Beaty. He's moving the program in the right direction unlike your pal Weis.

If repeatedly tearing down Beaty is the way you support KU, I'd suggest you stick to your CSU support.
I do think Bobo at CSU is light years better at coaching than your BF. Beaty doesn't excite a lot of the fanbase (based upon ticket sales figures). Not just me. Weis is a better coach but we caught him after his health decline. Partly his own fault but still wasn't given any AD support beyond a bushel of dough. Sounds like the latest coach, getting some dough but no results yet.
Wow. You are really full of it today. Weis is a better coach? How is that? How about that famous dream team and games he was suppose to win and didn't. And please provide us with details on season ticket sales. Source? A little early to really judge ticket sales.
I'm talking actual ticket sales not some made up future sales ticket sales. Weis had a NCOTY award at ND. Yes he had health issues, as I posted. Beaty done a job at Texas HS. Big difference
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 05/30/17 05:05 PM

Originally Posted By: 58hawk
Young man's name is Skwarlo, not what you said.
Yeah whatever. Ever heard of a typo moron? [/quote]If anyone is crowned "typo moron" it's you. [/quote] You never did answer my question. Oh well, consider the source... [/quote]58 that's all you posted so what's the question?
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 05/30/17 05:19 PM

Originally Posted By: 58hawk
Jason now upgraded to 5 star and first 5 star in KU history. Put that in your pipe and smoke it cuckoo.
I hope he stays a commit but he has been given a different path. If he wants. 58, are you ok today?
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 05/30/17 05:23 PM

Originally Posted By: 58hawk
Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
Originally Posted By: dgless21
I have no reason to dislike Beaty. He's moving the program in the right direction unlike your pal Weis.

If repeatedly tearing down Beaty is the way you support KU, I'd suggest you stick to your CSU support.
I do think Bobo at CSU is light years better at coaching than your BF. Beaty doesn't excite a lot of the fanbase (based upon ticket sales figures). Not just me. Weis is a better coach but we caught him after his health decline. Partly his own fault but still wasn't given any AD support beyond a bushel of dough. Sounds like the latest coach, getting some dough but no results yet.
Wow. You are really full of it today. Weis is a better coach? How is that? How about that famous dream team and games he was suppose to win and didn't. And please provide us with details on season ticket sales. Source? A little early to really judge ticket sales.
Ticket sales are available if you want to know. Look it up yourself you lazy butt
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 05/30/17 07:30 PM

Ticket sales
FY 2016 - 4,092,276 (Beaty first year)
FY 2015 - 3,990,510 (Weis' last year)
FY 2014 - 5,249,002
FY 2013 - 5,518,253 (Weis' first year)
FY 2012 - 6,561,036
FY 2011 - 9,244,177 (Gill's first year)
FY 2010 - 9,281,950 (Mangino's last year)
FY 2009 - 9,500,302 (Insight Bowl)

Seems like Gill started a trend and Weis kept that downward trend going. Beaty's first year trended upward from what Weis did his last year. The FY 2017 with last years football numbers hasn't been released yet.
Posted by: Kman_blue

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 05/30/17 11:18 PM

Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
Originally Posted By: 58hawk
Jason now upgraded to 5 star and first 5 star in KU history. Put that in your pipe and smoke it cuckoo.
I hope he stays a commit but he has been given a different path. If he wants. 58, are you ok today?
He hasn't been given anything, nor any different path. He earned the opportunity to have picked from a bunch of different paths. As of right now, he's still on the same exact path he's been on since February.

He also had all of those paths available back when he committed to KU. Nothing has changed other than how highly the recruiting services think of him now and they thought plenty high of him back when he committed too. He had offers from virtually every program out there before he committed to KU, so there's nothing new that's happened now. It's not like all the other programs who had offered him before weren't really trying to recruit him, but now all of a sudden they will. They were recruiting him hard before Feb. 4, and after Feb. 4, and some will probably keep recruiting him right up until the day he signs with KU.

I hope he stays committed and signs with KU come December and right now I see no reason to believe otherwise. 247 says his commitment is a "Hard commit" so it looks like they must feel similarly.

Congrats to Devonta for the added recognition well deserved!

Rock Chalk Jayhawk!
Posted by: Kman_blue

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 05/30/17 11:25 PM

Oh and on a side note about Devonta's rating upgrade by Rivals, as I know how much KUCO is into trends. Funny though he only posts about them when they turn downward or negative short term or otherwise. That pushes KU's team recruiting ranking up a couple spots to #21 in the nation now and #4 in the Big 12, leap frogging OU in both rankings. I guess that means KU's recruiting is back on an upward trend now.
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 05/31/17 07:36 AM

It also helps that Zach Burks finally got a rating (three stars and 5.5 rating).

We're still waiting on Mac Copeland to get rated.
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 05/31/17 01:00 PM

Originally Posted By: dgless21
Ticket sales
FY 2016 - 4,092,276 (Beaty first year)
FY 2015 - 3,990,510 (Weis' last year)
FY 2014 - 5,249,002
FY 2013 - 5,518,253 (Weis' first year)
FY 2012 - 6,561,036
FY 2011 - 9,244,177 (Gill's first year)
FY 2010 - 9,281,950 (Mangino's last year)
FY 2009 - 9,500,302 (Insight Bowl)

Seems like Gill started a trend and Weis kept that downward trend going. Beaty's first year trended upward from what Weis did his last year. The FY 2017 with last years football numbers hasn't been released yet.
9.5 to 4.0 in eight years! Thanks, Lew...
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 05/31/17 01:04 PM

Originally Posted By: Kman_blue
Oh and on a side note about Devonta's rating upgrade by Rivals, as I know how much KUCO is into trends. Funny though he only posts about them when they turn downward or negative short term or otherwise. That pushes KU's team recruiting ranking up a couple spots to #21 in the nation now and #4 in the Big 12, leap frogging OU in both rankings. I guess that means KU's recruiting is back on an upward trend now.
I could say the same about your posting but then I can't b!tch as much. The bump upward right now is definitely a short term period. Let's get them into class and on the field before giving out awards.
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 05/31/17 01:19 PM

Made Joe Foucha's top 15. He's a 4 star on scout, 3 on rivals and 247.

Offers include KU, Bama, Auburn, Baylor, OU, FSU, Michigan, VT, Oregon, Texas, etc

Seems to like Hull and is pretty close with Devonta Jason.
Posted by: Kman_blue

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 05/31/17 01:27 PM

Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
Originally Posted By: Kman_blue
Oh and on a side note about Devonta's rating upgrade by Rivals, as I know how much KUCO is into trends. Funny though he only posts about them when they turn downward or negative short term or otherwise. That pushes KU's team recruiting ranking up a couple spots to #21 in the nation now and #4 in the Big 12, leap frogging OU in both rankings. I guess that means KU's recruiting is back on an upward trend now.
I could say the same about your posting but then I can't b!tch as much. The bump upward right now is definitely a short term period. Let's get them into class and on the field before giving out awards.
Stating the facts about Rivals current rankings and pointing out that it shows KU's recruiting rank is on an uptick is giving out awards?

If that's the case, then what the hell have you been giving out by pointing out every time it has ticked down?
Posted by: Kman_blue

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 05/31/17 01:32 PM

Originally Posted By: dgless21
Made Joe Foucha's top 15. He's a 4 star on scout, 3 on rivals and 247.

Offers include KU, Bama, Auburn, Baylor, OU, FSU, Michigan, VT, Oregon, Texas, etc

Seems to like Hull and is pretty close with Devonta Jason.
I think I noticed him liking Devonta's tweet or retweet of his new 5 star ranking. Not sure, but I also think Harris has tweeted him some KU stuff over the past few months too.

Have heard rumors he's going to try and make an unofficial visit to KU sometime this summer. Would be another HUGE get for KU if we could somehow get his commitment.
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 05/31/17 02:02 PM

Hopefully Corione and Devonta can convince Josh Smith (also Landry Walker) to commit to KU.
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 05/31/17 05:55 PM

Originally Posted By: Kman_blue
Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
Originally Posted By: Kman_blue
Oh and on a side note about Devonta's rating upgrade by Rivals, as I know how much KUCO is into trends. Funny though he only posts about them when they turn downward or negative short term or otherwise. That pushes KU's team recruiting ranking up a couple spots to #21 in the nation now and #4 in the Big 12, leap frogging OU in both rankings. I guess that means KU's recruiting is back on an upward trend now.
I could say the same about your posting but then I can't b!tch as much. The bump upward right now is definitely a short term period. Let's get them into class and on the field before giving out awards.
Stating the facts about Rivals current rankings and pointing out that it shows KU's recruiting rank is on an uptick is giving out awards?

If that's the case, then what the hell have you been giving out by pointing out every time it has ticked down?
You give out awards on short term rankings bump. I give out long term trend info that makes sense to talk about. That's the difference
Posted by: track

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 05/31/17 06:27 PM

Your "long term trend info" is worthless just as are most of your post. We all know your Schtick and it has grown old and tired, Laura.
Posted by: 58hawk

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 05/31/17 07:12 PM

What is your long term info.? Or do you really have anything?
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/01/17 01:00 AM

Originally Posted By: track
Your "long term trend info" is worthless just as are most of your post. We all know your Schtick and it has grown old and tired, Laura.
LTT=ranked in twenties but was in top 5. A trend, tacky.
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/01/17 07:09 AM

For four months before February, our class was unranked or tied for dead last. How come that isn't in your "long-term trend," Laura?

Seems like you chose the date range specifically so you can whine about it.
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/01/17 10:51 AM

Originally Posted By: dgless21
For four months before February, our class was unranked or tied for dead last. How come that isn't in your "long-term trend," Laura?

Seems like you chose the date range specifically so you can whine about it.
That's called useless info for four months before Feb. No team was interested in 2018 recruiting rankings until now (2017).

Besides, I don't whine, "I b!tch". Go Jayhawks!
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/01/17 10:52 AM

Originally Posted By: 58hawk
What is your long term info.? Or do you really have anything?
"LTT=ranked in twenties but was in top 5. A trend, 58."
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/01/17 02:16 PM

Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
Originally Posted By: dgless21
For four months before February, our class was unranked or tied for dead last. How come that isn't in your "long-term trend," Laura?

Seems like you chose the date range specifically so you can whine about it.
That's called useless info for four months before Feb. No team was interested in 2018 recruiting rankings until now (2017).

Besides, I don't whine, "I b!tch". Go Jayhawks!


You picked an arbitrary starting date.

The top five classes on Rivals currently started worrying about their recruiting long before your dumb February start date:

Miami had five players committed before February.
Penn State had five commits before February.
LSU had three commits before February.
Ohio State had two commits before February.
Florida State had five commits before February.

Seems like you should see a gastroenterologist--because you're completely full of [censored].
Posted by: 58hawk

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/01/17 04:28 PM

Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
Originally Posted By: 58hawk
What is your long term info.? Or do you really have anything?
"LTT=ranked in twenties but was in top 5. A trend, 58."
A trend you just made up. We weren't suppose to be in even the twenties to begin with. Hardly a "trend".
Posted by: bigdogjac

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/01/17 06:47 PM

The top rated receiver in Okla was Norman North's Drake Stoops.
Just for kicks and giggles KU needs to offer him. So far his only offer is Ohio.
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/01/17 09:38 PM

247 shows him having Air Force, Ark State, WKU, and Ohio.

He has a twin brother (Isaac) with an offer from Army too. He's a CB.
Posted by: PbBut

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/01/17 11:38 PM

I agree bdjac. I'd like it even better if he was a WR who was about 6'5" and weighed 290. That would be a WR that gets me excited.
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/02/17 05:33 AM

Originally Posted By: 58hawk
Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
Originally Posted By: 58hawk
What is your long term info.? Or do you really have anything?
"LTT=ranked in twenties but was in top 5. A trend, 58."
A trend you just made up. We weren't suppose to be in even the twenties to begin with. Hardly a "trend".
My source was 247 from Feb thru May 2017. Called a trend.
Posted by: track

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/02/17 06:47 AM

Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
Originally Posted By: 58hawk
Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
Originally Posted By: 58hawk
What is your long term info.? Or do you really have anything?
"LTT=ranked in twenties but was in top 5. A trend, 58."
A trend you just made up. We weren't suppose to be in even the twenties to begin with. Hardly a "trend".
My source was 247 from Feb thru May 2017. Called a trend.

Pretty stupid and weak post. ...but that's what you do to stir the pot and get the faithful arroused. Personally I could do without your pot stirring post but I have to admit it seems to work if your mission is to create more posts... even if they don't contribute squat in terms of new or enlightening info on the ku football ptogram.
Posted by: bigdogjac

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/02/17 06:56 AM

dgless21, As far as Drakes offers go, I was just going by what the Sports Animal was saying yesterday. The consensus feeling down here is his twin brother is not skilled enough to play D-!. They will be seniors this year. Bob Stoops was talking about having fun taking a few unofficial visits with his son. Of course, most official visits are taken during the season. Doubt if Bob gets to go on those with him.
Posted by: Kman_blue

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/02/17 08:20 AM

After some of the things good ole bobby has done over the past couple of years in regards to off handed comments and snide snippets, etc. here and there towards KU I wouldn't trust anyone with the last name of Stoops to be even the water boy on our team. Hell, I don't even think I'd feel comfortable if someone with that last name was a janitor at the facilities building on West Campus.
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/02/17 10:10 AM

Originally Posted By: bigdogjac
dgless21, As far as Drakes offers go, I was just going by what the Sports Animal was saying yesterday. The consensus feeling down here is his twin brother is not skilled enough to play D-!. They will be seniors this year. Bob Stoops was talking about having fun taking a few unofficial visits with his son. Of course, most official visits are taken during the season. Doubt if Bob gets to go on those with him.


I wasn't trying to suggest anything you said was wrong. I was simply trying to add to the conversation. Drake seems like he may be a low power 5 prospect if he has a good senior year.

However, as Kman said, it would be difficult to trust a Stoops on our team. We have Riley--that's enough of a connection to the OU coaching staff as I need.
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/02/17 10:15 AM

Originally Posted By: 58hawk
Jason now upgraded to 5 star and first 5 star in KU history. Put that in your pipe and smoke it cuckoo.
Seems like I remember two different 5 star QBs at Kansas. Neither jump started the program after they hit the field.
Posted by: 58hawk

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/02/17 10:23 AM

Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
Originally Posted By: 58hawk
Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
Originally Posted By: 58hawk
What is your long term info.? Or do you really have anything?
"LTT=ranked in twenties but was in top 5. A trend, 58."
A trend you just made up. We weren't suppose to be in even the twenties to begin with. Hardly a "trend".
My source was 247 from Feb thru May 2017. Called a trend.
More like an isolated incident then a trend. Feb. thru May was only because a couple of players withdrew their commitment.
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/02/17 10:26 AM

Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
Originally Posted By: 58hawk
Jason now upgraded to 5 star and first 5 star in KU history. Put that in your pipe and smoke it cuckoo.
Seems like I remember two different 5 star QBs at Kansas. Neither jump started the program after they hit the field.


I hate to poke holes in your comments, but on 247, ESPN, and Rivals, Heaps was only a 4 star.

Jason is the first 5 star HS commit for KU football in the history of 247 and Rivals according to Benton's article from a few days ago.
Posted by: 58hawk

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/02/17 10:29 AM

Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
Originally Posted By: 58hawk
Jason now upgraded to 5 star and first 5 star in KU history. Put that in your pipe and smoke it cuckoo.
Seems like I remember two different 5 star QBs at Kansas. Neither jump started the program after they hit the field.
They were transfers that were misdiagnosed by a buffoon of a coach.
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/02/17 11:21 AM

Originally Posted By: track
Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
Originally Posted By: 58hawk
Originally Posted By: 58hawk
What is your long term info.? Or do you really have anything?
"LTT=ranked in twenties but was in top 5. A trend, 58."
A trend you just made up. We weren't suppose to be in even the twenties to begin with. Hardly a "trend".

Pretty stupid and weak post. ...but that's what you do to stir the pot and get the faithful arroused. Personally I could do without your pot stirring post but I have to admit it seems to work if your mission is to create more posts... even if they don't contribute squat in terms of new or enlightening info on the ku football ptogram.
http://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/ncaafb/a...OVVv?li=BBnba9I
New enlightening info about "The Slave Master" Bill Snyder. Old Balls calls his WR a "druggie" and then won't release him to get a second chance somewhere else.
Posted by: Kman_blue

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/02/17 11:23 AM

Charles Baldwin is our current 5 star transfer on the team. Hopefully he'll do better than our previous ones did.
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/02/17 01:09 PM

Originally Posted By: dgless21
Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
Originally Posted By: 58hawk
Jason now upgraded to 5 star and first 5 star in KU history. Put that in your pipe and smoke it cuckoo.
Seems like I remember two different 5 star QBs at Kansas. Neither jump started the program after they hit the field.


I hate to poke holes in your comments, but on 247, ESPN, and Rivals, Heaps was only a 4 star.

Jason is the first 5 star HS commit for KU football in the history of 247 and Rivals according to Benton's article from a few days ago.

Let's see, DE Chris Martin, 5 star, and QB Dayne Crist, 5 star. You are correct that Heaps played a bunch in his first year of college, seemingly possessed 5 star talent for that year (AZ?). A lot of 5'ers flame out or don't live up to billings.
Posted by: kylecof11

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/02/17 01:59 PM

I just saw a picture of Crist recently with James Sims blocking for him. It's a damn shame that Sims had his career ruined by incompetent coaches in Gill and Weis.

Weis' offense was absolutely stupid for college and Gill was more concerned about building quality men than winning football games. Mangino did both, and I think Beaty is doing both as well. Guys who do well off the field and on the field. Beaty obviously hasn't had results yet, but Rome wasn't built in a day either.
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/02/17 02:02 PM

And a lot of 5 stars play well. Just like 2, 3, and 4 stars.

What's the point?
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/02/17 02:26 PM

Originally Posted By: dgless21
And a lot of 5 stars play well. Just like 2, 3, and 4 stars.

What's the point?
Point is, what can happen for the latest verbal commit 5 star is WAY too soon to crown him king here in Lawrence. Much like Beaty as a coach currently. Being paid on potential, not results.
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/02/17 02:53 PM

So because Weis and his five stars sucked, we shouldn't be excited about a five star recruit?

Sure seems like you're just wanting to complain some more, Laura.

I'm sorry Weis' five star recruits failed so greatly. Beaty's two highest recruits, if I remember correctly, have been Mike Lee and Dorance Armstrong, right? They've worked out okay.

Edit: 2 of 3 - Lee, Maciah, and Dorance.
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/02/17 05:04 PM

Originally Posted By: dgless21
So because Weis and his five stars sucked, we shouldn't be excited about a five star recruit?

Sure seems like you're just wanting to complain some more, Laura.

I'm sorry Weis' five star recruits failed so greatly. Beaty's two highest recruits, if I remember correctly, have been Mike Lee and Dorance Armstrong, right? They've worked out okay.

Edit: 2 of 3 - Lee, Maciah, and Dorance.
Hey you asked for my point & I gave an honest answer. Long way to go yet to praise the coaching here. Your winner coach is now 2-22 all time. Not going to get Zenger his $40K.

The Laura bs is wearing thin. Not funny & it makes you look petty. He/sh/it21.
Posted by: bigdogjac

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/02/17 07:37 PM

Dgless, No offense was taken and thanks for contributing.

Even thoiugh K-man is right, I still think it would be funny! It would create quite a conversation on the Sports Animal.
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/02/17 09:58 PM

Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
Originally Posted By: dgless21
So because Weis and his five stars sucked, we shouldn't be excited about a five star recruit?

Sure seems like you're just wanting to complain some more, Laura.

I'm sorry Weis' five star recruits failed so greatly. Beaty's two highest recruits, if I remember correctly, have been Mike Lee and Dorance Armstrong, right? They've worked out okay.

Edit: 2 of 3 - Lee, Maciah, and Dorance.
Hey you asked for my point & I gave an honest answer. Long way to go yet to praise the coaching here. Your winner coach is now 2-22 all time. Not going to get Zenger his $40K.

The Laura bs is wearing thin. Not funny & it makes you look petty. He/sh/it21.


You gave an opinion based on a former coach's experience. Your point didn't and doesn't suggest why Jason would flop or fail for Beaty. Defending Beaty for being better than Weis and Gill is not really praising Beaty. He may be garbage, but he is doing more than those two combined. If he doesn't succeed, we are still in a better position than we've been in YEARS.

I don't like Zenger. You can whine about him all you want. While I doubt I'll ever agree with you, I support your opinion that he's been a failure thus far.

I'm sincerely sorry you don't like the nickname, Laura. You'll grow into it.
Posted by: Kman_blue

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/03/17 09:11 AM

Saw that Jason just won top performer at a big camp in Atlanta.


Sure looks like proof positive of a flop in the making![/end sarcasm]
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/03/17 09:25 AM

Originally Posted By: Kman_blue
Saw that Jason just won top performer at a big camp in Atlanta.


Sure looks like proof positive of a flop in the making![/end sarcasm]
No doubt about it! I reviewed the list of 5 star's who floperoo'd before my generic statement prior. He/dg/sh/it21 is excited as well...
Posted by: Kman_blue

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/03/17 09:29 AM

On another KU 2018 recruiting note, it looks like a couple of KU targets are planning on making their commitment decisions in the next couple of weeks.

Also, several are making unofficial visits to KU this month.

I expect we'll be getting a few more commitments in the next few weeks.
Posted by: Kman_blue

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/03/17 10:01 AM

I'm excited as hell to have such highly rated and thought of (by everyone in the recruiting game) recruits, including Jason, committed to KU right now.

I'm also excited that this in turn has other highly touted recruits now giving KU a serious look and even making the top cut for a few.

I'm excited about the apparent potential of these guys as well as the positive national attention they're helping to bring to KU. I'm excited because recruiting well is one of the first building blocks towards a winning program and these guys look like some very high quality building blocks who can come in and contribute towards making this a winning program sooner rather than later. They also look like the kinds of players who could make this more than just a winning program, but a winning program at a higher level than most.

I'm excited because all of this looks to give KU a ton more potential to rack up a lot more W's versus L's in the near future. As that's your 1 and only measuring stick for progress, I'd think getting these very highly rated recruits would have you somewhat excited that it could actually happen or at the least be seen as a positive. Instead it looks like you take it as an excuse to complain more or look at the worst possible outcomes rather than the HUGE positive this is for our program. I'm still excited about it. I'll leave the complaining about KU getting highly touted recruits to you.
Posted by: 58hawk

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/03/17 10:24 PM

Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
Originally Posted By: dgless21
So because Weis and his five stars sucked, we shouldn't be excited about a five star recruit?

Sure seems like you're just wanting to complain some more, Laura.

I'm sorry Weis' five star recruits failed so greatly. Beaty's two highest recruits, if I remember correctly, have been Mike Lee and Dorance Armstrong, right? They've worked out okay.

Edit: 2 of 3 - Lee, Maciah, and Dorance.
Hey you asked for my point & I gave an honest answer. Long way to go yet to praise the coaching here. Your winner coach is now 2-22 all time. Not going to get Zenger his $40K.

The Laura bs is wearing thin. Not funny & it makes you look petty. He/sh/it21.
Its only wearing thin for you!
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/04/17 08:03 AM

Originally Posted By: Kman_blue
I'm excited as hell to have such highly rated and thought of (by everyone in the recruiting game) recruits, including Jason, committed to KU right now.

I'm also excited that this in turn has other highly touted recruits now giving KU a serious look and even making the top cut for a few.

I'm excited about the apparent potential of these guys as well as the positive national attention they're helping to bring to KU. I'm excited because recruiting well is one of the first building blocks towards a winning program and these guys look like some very high quality building blocks who can come in and contribute towards making this a winning program sooner rather than later. They also look like the kinds of players who could make this more than just a winning program, but a winning program at a higher level than most.

I'm excited because all of this looks to give KU a ton more potential to rack up a lot more W's versus L's in the near future. As that's your 1 and only measuring stick for progress, I'd think getting these very highly rated recruits would have you somewhat excited that it could actually happen or at the least be seen as a positive. Instead it looks like you take it as an excuse to complain more or look at the worst possible outcomes rather than the HUGE positive this is for our program. I'm still excited about it. I'll leave the complaining about KU getting highly touted recruits to you.
Yes potential is the main point I take away from your post. I agree we are paying for it.

You think I only look at wins & losses, but I am also into the team recruiting rankings. After all, Zenger and the Chancellor are handing out salaries like Halloween candy on potential only. Always thought it was called trick or treat in October, not treat (salaries) or trick (wins)! Go hawks!
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/05/17 08:15 AM

Jacob Farrell from Sulphur, OK visited in last week or so.

He's 6'6", 280, and is one of the top rated OL in OK. Also plays a bit of DT.

TCU, Tech, OkSU, USU, and KU showing as offers on 247. Three star on Scout and Rivals.

Posted by: Josh2408

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/05/17 09:24 AM

Farrell would be what I'm looking for especially if he get to 305 pounds
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/05/17 11:21 AM

Originally Posted By: dgless21
Jacob Farrell from Sulphur, OK visited in last week or so.

He's 6'6", 280, and is one of the top rated OL in OK. Also plays a bit of DT.

TCU, Tech, OkSU, USU, and KU showing as offers on 247. Three star on Scout and Rivals.

He's ranked 42th in the state according to one website. What's your definition of "top rated"? Three stars?
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/05/17 11:44 AM

While I should tell your lazy ass to google better, I have the links right in front of me.

On Rivals, he's the second best OL and the 9th best player in the state...He's also the 42nd best OT prospect in the country.

https://n.rivals.com/state_rankings/2018/oklahoma

https://n.rivals.com/position_rankings/football/2018/OT

On scout, he's one of 20 players in Oklahoma rated 3 stars or above. He's also in the top 5 of Oklahoma OTs.

Scout

Thank you for your sad attempt at contributing to the board.
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/05/17 12:02 PM

Originally Posted By: dgless21
While I should tell your lazy ass to google better, I have the links right in front of me.

On Rivals, he's the second best OL and the 9th best player in the state...He's also the 42nd best OT prospect in the country.

https://n.rivals.com/state_rankings/2018/oklahoma

https://n.rivals.com/position_rankings/football/2018/OT

On scout, he's one of 20 players in Oklahoma rated 3 stars or above. He's also in the top 5 of Oklahoma OTs.

Scout

Thank you for your sad attempt at contributing to the board.
http://www.maxpreps.com/

Your welcome. The above website has him at Natl rank 2,085 AND OK rank at 42nd in the state as I originally stated. Your attempt to overstate trips you up again.
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/05/17 01:13 PM

It's "you're" welcome.

The national ranking of 2085 and 42nd ranking in Oklahoma refers to the Sulphur's team ranking for last season. Failed attempt #2.

Third time is a charm, Laura. Let's see what else you got.
Posted by: Sandpku22

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/05/17 01:18 PM

KUCLOWN_VOC are you intentionally this obtuse?
Jacob Farrell is 9th rated player overall in OK per Rivals and 5th rated OT in OK per Scout, what is the confusion? Does that not qualify as "top rated"? Looking back it seems like you continually cherry pick your sources to fit your negative narrative. Why go directly to maxpreps which is a less common recruiting database than rivals or scout? Just to finally put your KUCLOWN_VOC narrative to rest, the OK ranking you are listing from maxpreps and the crux of your negative narrative is his HS team ranking in OK.

Maxpreps

PS it's you're welcome
Posted by: Sandpku22

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/05/17 01:21 PM

Sorry, didn't realize I was doubling up there, but I guess better minds think alike...
Posted by: Kman_blue

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/05/17 01:34 PM

A brief use of simple reasoning should have told you that the 42nd rated player in the state of Oklahoma isn't getting offers from the likes of KU, OkieSt., T-Tech, or TCU and probably not offers from Tulsa and Utah St. either.

Sure seems like you're quite eager to demean recruits committed to or interested in KU or maybe just blinded by pessimism and doubt?
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/05/17 01:58 PM

Originally Posted By: Sandpku22
KUCLOWN_VOC are you intentionally this obtuse?
Jacob Farrell is 9th rated player overall in OK per Rivals and 5th rated OT in OK per Scout, what is the confusion? Does that not qualify as "top rated"? Looking back it seems like you continually cherry pick your sources to fit your negative narrative. Why go directly to maxpreps which is a less common recruiting database than rivals or scout? Just to finally put your KUCLOWN_VOC narrative to rest, the OK ranking you are listing from maxpreps and the crux of your negative narrative is his HS team ranking in OK.

Maxpreps

PS it's you're welcome
Sandpuk - "You're welcome" is actually the correct word spelling and uppercase Y is needed in this usage, professor.
Cherry picking implies I read and reject information until I find something saying the opposite. If the shoe fits, wear it.
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/05/17 02:00 PM

Originally Posted By: Kman_blue
A brief use of simple reasoning should have told you that the 42nd rated player in the state of Oklahoma isn't getting offers from the likes of KU, OkieSt., T-Tech, or TCU and probably not offers from Tulsa and Utah St. either.

Sure seems like you're quite eager to demean recruits committed to or interested in KU or maybe just blinded by pessimism and doubt?
Perhaps I was thinking 42nd OT in state rankings. I'm sure I don't use some websites due to subscription costs, etc.
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/05/17 02:02 PM

Originally Posted By: dgless21
It's "you're" welcome.

The national ranking of 2085 and 42nd ranking in Oklahoma refers to the Sulphur's team ranking for last season. Failed attempt #2.

Third time is a charm, Laura. Let's see what else you got.
41 better teams in OK? Yes, let's get this guy...
Posted by: Kman_blue

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/05/17 02:08 PM

Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
Originally Posted By: dgless21
It's "you're" welcome.

The national ranking of 2085 and 42nd ranking in Oklahoma refers to the Sulphur's team ranking for last season. Failed attempt #2.

Third time is a charm, Laura. Let's see what else you got.
41 better teams in OK? Yes, let's get this guy...
LOL

You do realize there's 22 starters on a football team, don't you? And that doesn't even include Special Teams players. 1 great player on a bad team isn't going to change much of anything most of the time in terms of the team's W-L record.
Posted by: Sandpku22

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/05/17 02:16 PM

Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
Originally Posted By: dgless21
It's "you're" welcome.

The national ranking of 2085 and 42nd ranking in Oklahoma refers to the Sulphur's team ranking for last season. Failed attempt #2.

Third time is a charm, Laura. Let's see what else you got.
41 better teams in OK? Yes, let's get this guy...


Watching KUCLOWN flail is entertaining
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/05/17 02:23 PM

What we're all trying to say is changing your argument to now be about the strength of his 9-3 3A team in Oklahoma is comical, Laura.

Von Miller's senior year he went 10-4 in Texas. Look how bad he was.
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/05/17 02:39 PM

Originally Posted By: Sandpku22
Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
Originally Posted By: dgless21
It's "you're" welcome.

The national ranking of 2085 and 42nd ranking in Oklahoma refers to the Sulphur's team ranking for last season. Failed attempt #2.

Third time is a charm, Laura. Let's see what else you got.
41 better teams in OK? Yes, let's get this guy...


Watching KUCLOWN flail is entertaining
Your welcome.
Posted by: track

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/05/17 04:36 PM

Some people just embarrass themselves with their comments... like Laura.
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/05/17 08:25 PM

Offered Steven Shaw out of Manvel, TX after a camp at UTSA.

LA Tech offered as well. He's 6'4", 240. Unrated.

http://247sports.com/Player/Steven-Shaw-46042168
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/05/17 08:45 PM

Originally Posted By: dgless21
What we're all trying to say is changing your argument to now be about the strength of his 9-3 3A team in Oklahoma is comical, Laura.

Von Miller's senior year he went 10-4 in Texas. Look how bad he was.
"We all" think this kid is as good or better than Von Miller. Nope.
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/05/17 08:46 PM

Originally Posted By: dgless21
Offered Steven Shaw out of Manvel, TX after a camp at UTSA.

LA Tech offered as well. He's 6'4", 240. Unrated.

http://247sports.com/Player/Steven-Shaw-46042168

We have to beat out Prairie View for him.
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/05/17 08:47 PM

Originally Posted By: track
Some people just embarrass themselves with their comments... like track.
FYP
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/05/17 08:50 PM

Originally Posted By: Kman_blue
Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
Originally Posted By: dgless21
It's "you're" welcome.

The national ranking of 2085 and 42nd ranking in Oklahoma refers to the Sulphur's team ranking for last season. Failed attempt #2.

Third time is a charm, Laura. Let's see what else you got.
41 better teams in OK? Yes, let's get this guy...
LOL

You do realize there's 22 starters on a football team, don't you? And that doesn't even include Special Teams players. 1 great player on a bad team isn't going to change much of anything most of the time in terms of the team's W-L record.
I don't consider his team bad b/c I look at wins & losses. 2-22 is considered bad...
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/05/17 09:22 PM

Also, few days old, but Miles Emery nearing a decision -
https://n.rivals.com/news/kansas-de-miles-emery-close-to-a-decision
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/05/17 09:29 PM

Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
We have to beat out Prairie View for him.


But, but, but...his profile on Maxpreps says he's #157 nationally and #18 in the state of Texas though, right?

His HS team was 13-1, too! He must be good!

C'mon, Laura, you're getting bad at this.
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/06/17 06:35 AM

Originally Posted By: dgless21
Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
We have to beat out Prairie View for him.


But, but, but...his profile on Maxpreps says he's #157 nationally and #18 in the state of Texas though, right?

His HS team was 13-1, too! He must be good!

C'mon, you're getting bad at this.
I wasn't familiar with the format on MaxPrep as I don't "cherry pick" my info as YOU do. The issue I have with our offer to this kid is his offers don't appear to include any legitimate BG12 (P5 type) teams. It's not my issue but is Beaty's. Starting to remind me of Gameball...
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/06/17 08:04 AM

Can you go ahead and provide us your criteria for a good recruit, Laura?

And I'm sorry that you feel providing a link to 247 is cherry picking. Please feel free to diagram how my posts should be for future reference.
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/06/17 09:01 AM

Current commit Crook Jones hearing from Bama and a handful of others lately.

http://www.recruitingnewsguru.com/kansas...iting-interest/
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/06/17 10:56 AM

Miles Emery commits to KU via Slant.

6'5", 230, out of Blue Valley North

Solid three star, #17 DE on Rivals, #2 player in KS. Had Oklahoma, Iowa State, and Louisville offers.

http://247sports.com/Player/Miles-Emery-46037846
https://n.rivals.com/content/prospects/2018/miles-emery-182960
http://www.scout.com/player/214585-miles-emery/recruiting?year=2017
Posted by: jayhawkfan0710

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/06/17 11:00 AM

Let's go!!!! Local talent seeing what's happening at KU. Lots of people wanting to be a part of something special building.
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/06/17 11:18 AM

Could be fun seeing Emery (weakside via 247) and Cartez (strongside via 247) on the field together in the next few years.
Posted by: Kman_blue

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/06/17 01:04 PM

Originally Posted By: dgless21
Could be fun seeing Emery (weakside via 247) and Cartez (strongside via 247) on the field together in the next few years.
Yeah, those 2 look really good on video and had quite a few offers to choose from. Awesome seeing KU beat out all those others for both of them! I'm excited to see what they do when they get here.

Welcome aboard Mr. Emery!!

Rock Chalk Jayhawk!!
Posted by: kylecof11

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/06/17 01:11 PM

Yeah this thing is building. And it'll be taking off in no time. Players want to be here. Now beating out OU, LSU, Bama, UT, and plenty of others for recruits. That's no damn joke. Beaty and Co are doing a great job.

Now with Meachem running the offense, and Beaty more focused on overall picture of team, it should be a fun next couple of years at Memorial.
Posted by: Kman_blue

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/06/17 01:23 PM

I see this pushes KU's recruiting rank back up to #19 and leapfrogging OU according to Rivals. Though something's F'ed up with Rivals right now as they list OU with 9 commitments on the team rankings page, but only 8 everywhere else. They also give OU an extra 90 points on the team ranking page. Seems like maybe they've mistakenly given them 90 points and an extra commitment after they got a commitment today from a JUCO DT. Problem though, is that DT is in the class of 2017 (i.e. will play this fall) and not in the class of 2018.

As nobody above KU has an unranked player who's not a kicker, it'll be interesting to see if we move up some more when they finally rate Copeland. If I had to guess, it'd put us up to about #15 right now.
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/06/17 01:24 PM

Khristian Boyd has to be close to jumping in, right?

Would've been nice to get Mario Goodrich, but he chose Nebraska about two weeks ago.

Edit to add - also made Daniel Parker, Jr.'s top ten on 5/22
Posted by: Kman_blue

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/06/17 01:31 PM

I dunno about Boyd. I get the feeling that his offer is conditional, so he may not be making a public announcement anytime soon.

Yeah, Goodrich seemed set on the corn for a long while now. I think someone in his family really wanted him to go there too, which probably helped.

Some people have trouble seeing the future and make decisions based on the past.grin
Posted by: Kman_blue

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/06/17 02:12 PM

Originally Posted By: Kman_blue
I see this pushes KU's recruiting rank back up to #19 and leapfrogging OU according to Rivals. Though something's F'ed up with Rivals right now as they list OU with 9 commitments on the team rankings page, but only 8 everywhere else. They also give OU an extra 90 points on the team ranking page. Seems like maybe they've mistakenly given them 90 points and an extra commitment after they got a commitment today from a JUCO DT. Problem though, is that DT is in the class of 2017 (i.e. will play this fall) and not in the class of 2018.
Magically they've now fixed it and it shows the correct totals and rankings for KU and OU.

I'd like to think it was because of my post. LOL!
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/06/17 02:15 PM

Originally Posted By: dgless21
Can you go ahead and provide us your criteria for a good recruit?

And I'm sorry that you feel providing a link to 247 is cherry picking. Please feel free to diagram how my posts should be for future reference.
If a recruit has only a Prairie View-type offer(s) can you see past your blinders to mention it? Another good criteria is homegrown kids. You like to avoid telling the WHOLE story sometime.
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/06/17 02:18 PM

Originally Posted By: Kman_blue
Some people have trouble seeing the future and make decisions based on the past.grin
When they wear blinders, they make blunders.
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/06/17 02:39 PM

Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
If a recruit has only a Prairie View-type offer(s) can you see past your blinders to mention it? Another good criteria is homegrown kids. You like to avoid telling the WHOLE story sometime.


I provided a link to the WHOLE story, Laura.

Would you prefer to start actually contributing to the board by providing recruiting updates yourself?
Posted by: 58hawk

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/06/17 02:44 PM

Originally Posted By: dgless21
Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
If a recruit has only a Prairie View-type offer(s) can you see past your blinders to mention it? Another good criteria is homegrown kids. You like to avoid telling the WHOLE story sometime.


I provided a link to the WHOLE story, Laura.

Would you prefer to start actually contributing to the board by providing recruiting updates yourself?
That would be nice but it would be tainted.
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/06/17 03:11 PM

Offered Blue Valley North (Emery's teammate) 2019 QB Graham Mertz. He's at our KU team camp today.

http://247sports.com/player/graham-mertz-46038869

It appears we are his first offer.
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/06/17 03:12 PM

Originally Posted By: dgless21
Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
If a recruit has only a Prairie View-type offer(s) can you see past your blinders to mention it? Another good criteria is homegrown kids. You like to avoid telling the WHOLE story sometime.


I provided a link to the WHOLE story.

Would you prefer to start actually contributing to the board by providing recruiting updates yourself?
So you ask me to tell you how to post the truth and I get a slam from he/dg/sh/it21...
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/06/17 03:14 PM

Originally Posted By: 58hawk
Originally Posted By: dgless21
Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
If a recruit has only a Prairie View-type offer(s) can you see past your blinders to mention it? Another good criteria is homegrown kids. You like to avoid telling the WHOLE story sometime.


I provided a link to the WHOLE story.

Would you prefer to start actually contributing to the board by providing recruiting updates yourself?
That would be nice but it would be tainted.
Quit your whining, you dg/baby/21. I have enough to do, translating your mess on the carpet.
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/06/17 03:18 PM

Originally Posted By: dgless21
Offered Blue Valley North (Emery's teammate) 2019 QB Graham Mertz. He's at our KU team camp today.

http://247sports.com/player/graham-mertz-46038869

It appears we are his first offer.
Pro style QB is exactly what HCCW needs! Oh, wait,...
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/06/17 03:28 PM

Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
Quit your whining, you dg/baby/21. I have enough to do, translating your mess on the carpet.


That was 58, actually. Nice try, Laura.
Posted by: 58hawk

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/06/17 03:34 PM

Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
Originally Posted By: dgless21
Offered Blue Valley North (Emery's teammate) 2019 QB Graham Mertz. He's at our KU team camp today.

http://247sports.com/player/graham-mertz-46038869

It appears we are his first offer.
Pro style QB is exactly what HCCW needs! Oh, wait,...
Except this one is athletic unlike Crist and Heaps.
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/06/17 03:34 PM

Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
So you ask me to tell you how to post the truth and I get a slam from he/dg/sh/it21...


I asked a sincere question about whether you'd like to provide the recruiting news, Laura.
Posted by: jayhawkfan0710

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/06/17 04:01 PM

KUCO if you judge recruits based on other offers, then you would have said Steven Sims Jr was a mistake. His only other offers were McNeese State, Southern University, Southeastern Louisiana, and Prairie View A&M. He's been the best receiver at KU since Briscoe and Meier.
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/06/17 04:31 PM

Originally Posted By: dgless21
Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
Quit your whining, you dg/baby/21. I have enough to do, translating your mess on the carpet.


That was 58, actually. Nice try.
So you didn't whine like a baby about doing updates?

Do the updating with more realistic info. Prairie View! Not impressed
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/06/17 04:34 PM

Originally Posted By: dgless21
Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
So you ask me to tell you how to post the truth and I get a slam from he/dg/sh/it21...


I asked a sincere question about whether you'd like to provide the recruiting news.

Nope. Told you I have to translate your uplifting info for the real scoop
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/06/17 04:38 PM

Originally Posted By: jayhawkfan0710
KUCO if you judge recruits based on other offers, then you would have said Steven Sims Jr was a mistake. His only other offers were McNeese State, Southern University, Southeastern Louisiana, and Prairie View A&M. He's been the best receiver at KU since Briscoe and Meier.
If all Prairie View offers were better than Alabama's, we would be national champions year over year. There are always exceptions as you have noted.
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/06/17 04:40 PM

So in other words, you will continue to be a giant asshat, contribute nothing, and comment negative on everything.

Sound about right, Laura?
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/06/17 04:45 PM

Originally Posted By: dgless21
So in other words, you will continue to be a giant grasshat, contribute nothing but the truth, and comment realistically on everything Kansas football.

Sound about right?
Yup
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/07/17 12:44 PM

So, an update on 2018 recruiting news. Kentucky has a tenth verbal commitment on their legit top twenty type class for 2018. A kicker out of SC HS. His name is Chance Poore...! Sounds funny, but true story.
Posted by: pizzanbeer

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/07/17 05:56 PM

Beaty has a lot of dominoes falling his way in recruiting. Stoops retiring unexpectedly, Snyder fading, Mizzou in the SEC cellar, early signing day, etc. Now Beaty just needs to string together some wins this season.
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/07/17 07:50 PM

Originally Posted By: pizzanbeer
Beaty has a lot of dominoes falling his way in recruiting. Stoops retiring unexpectedly, Snyder fading, Mizzou in the SEC cellar, early signing day, etc. Now Beaty just needs to string together some wins this season.
In the same season? His weakest link right now is his coaching.
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/08/17 01:27 PM

Anyone have a list of prospects visiting this weekend? Sounds like a lot of LA prospects according to slant.
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/08/17 02:31 PM

Kelvin Joseph is one of them. 4 star currently committed to LSU.

Other offers include Jackson State, Louisiana Monroe, UTSA, Bama, South Bama, ULL...and a whole bunch of power 5s.

https://n.rivals.com/content/prospects/2018/kelvin-joseph-20724

UNCLEFAT 💸‏ @_theylovefat 3 hours ago
Kansas tomorrow 🤙
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/08/17 02:36 PM

Josh Smith will be as well.

BigSmittie. ➰‏ @lajoshhh 3h
Kansas this weekend 🤘

https://n.rivals.com/content/prospects/2018/josh-smith-179920

Top six included KU, Houston, Tulane, Ark State, CSU, and Ball State.
Posted by: Kman_blue

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/08/17 03:13 PM

The only ones I know about for sure right now are:

Kelvin Joseph

Josh Smith

Lance Robinson

And a couple Mississippi JUCO teammates also visiting:

Jonathan Lolohea

Charles Cameron
Posted by: Kman_blue

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/08/17 04:57 PM

Heard there's another JUCO DT from Mississippi coming up. Not sure who exactly though.

Also heard another Louisiana HS recruit coming too, but also wasn't told a name.

Seems like this could be another really big recruiting weekend for KU. It would be amazing if we somehow flipped Joseph! Probably an extremely difficult thing to pull off I'd imagine.

Would be very happy if we got a couple commitments from some of the other visitors too.

Can't wait for those #neatdeals to start coming out on Saturday!
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/08/17 05:25 PM

Not to put a damper on the blue sky crowd, but 247 has KU ranked at 26th. Not in the teens as reported here lately. Makes a difference
Posted by: 58hawk

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/08/17 07:55 PM

Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
Not to put a damper on the blue sky crowd, but 247 has KU ranked at 26th. Not in the teens as reported here lately. Makes a difference
How does it make a difference? Its still great to even be put there.
Posted by: 58hawk

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/08/17 07:57 PM

20 per Rivals, ahead a spot on OU.
Posted by: Kman_blue

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/08/17 11:56 PM

Whoa no!! The sky is falling! The sky is falling! KU is only ranked as the #20 recruiting class in the country right now according to Rivals and they haven't even rated 1 of our recruits yet. Oh no!!

Maybe you can keep searching for another recruiting website which ranks KU even lower to fit your sh!t on everything KU football narrative?
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/09/17 06:54 AM

Originally Posted By: 58hawk
20 per Rivals, ahead a spot on OU.
If Rivals says that, good. I usually look at 247 CBS as it's available to me. Not that it is consistently lower as suggested by some of the blue sky crowd, btw. I don't use my time looking for these reportable facts as I have a life beyond this site. After our record low of wins-losses for two years, I believe 26 is probably more accurate. Just an observation.
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/09/17 10:12 AM

Out of sheer curiosity, what color is your sky, Laura?

And personally, I don't care if it's 20 or 26 or 34 or a wrong Maxpreps rating. We still have a damn good class of verbals right now. That's as much as I care about until they can get on the field and proving their value at KU.
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/09/17 10:43 AM

Originally Posted By: dgless21
Out of sheer curiosity, what color is your sky?
Sounds like a trick question. Pass.

This is like the question "what tree would you be if you had a choice?" I said ash once. Never again!

I like ash, big ash!!😂
Posted by: Kman_blue

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/09/17 11:13 AM

Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
If Rivals says that, good. I usually look at 247 CBS as it's available to me.
Rivals is available to everyone with internet access. How is it not available to you?

Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
After our record low of wins-losses for two years, I believe 26 is probably more accurate. Just an observation.
So, KU's record over the past 2 years is indicative of how good guys like Devonta Jason, Corione Harris, Aaron Brule, Tevailance Hunt, Miles Emery and the rest of our class are?

That's some solid reasoning right there. You dun got it figured.
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/09/17 11:18 AM

Originally Posted By: Kman_blue
Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
If Rivals says that, good. I usually look at 247 CBS as it's available to me.
Rivals is available to everyone with internet access. How is it not available to you? 247 is three keystrokes, Rivals is seven...

Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
After our record low of wins-losses for two years, I believe 26 is probably more accurate. Just an observation.
So, KU's record over the past 2 years is indicative of how good guys like Devonta Jason, Corione Harris, Aaron Brule, Tevailance Hunt, Miles Emery and the rest of our class are?

That's some solid reasoning right there. You dun got it figured.
That's right, recruits for Alabama go there to lose 11 games each year (avg for KS in last two). Dun got it figgerd
Posted by: Kman_blue

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/09/17 11:35 AM

Jason has an Alabama offer, so does it only count if he had committed to them instead of KU?

That's some more infallible reasonin right der!


Oh, and Alabama's recruiting rank is a lowly #49 right now. I guess they're on a downward trend according to you.
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/09/17 11:52 AM

It only counts if Laura can put a negative spin on it.
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/09/17 01:16 PM

Originally Posted By: Kman_blue
Jason has an Alabama offer, so does it only count if he had committed to them instead of KU?

That's some more infallible reasonin right der!


Oh, and Alabama's recruiting rank is a lowly #49 right now. I guess they're on a downward trend according to you.
I would take every Alabama offer on this team that I can. I'm not worried about it ever happening though. If Jason doesn't stay w/Kansas, what mythical ranking would you place on our 2018 class of verballs.

Alabama is ranked 50, not 49 by Rivals. Sorry to have to correct your "facts".
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/09/17 03:33 PM

Originally Posted By: dgless21
It only counts if Kuco can put a negative spin on it.
What a pessimist a hole you have become!!
Posted by: track

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/09/17 04:35 PM

Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
Originally Posted By: dgless21
It only counts if Kuco can put a negative spin on it.
What a pessimist a hole you have become!!

The pot calling the kettle black
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/09/17 06:40 PM

Originally Posted By: track
Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
Originally Posted By: dgless21
It only counts if Kuco can put a negative spin on it.
What a pessimist a hole you have become!!

The pot calling the kettle black
Let's kill two birds with one stone
Posted by: 58hawk

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/09/17 06:58 PM

Originally Posted By: dgless21
It only counts if Laura can put a negative spin on it.
Not just negative but nonfactual and most of his comments make no sense. Once someone recognizes this he is quick to make changes that fit his theory, like a fart in the wind.
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/09/17 08:39 PM

Originally Posted By: 58hawk
Originally Posted By: dgless21
It only counts if kuco can put a negative spin on it.
Not just negative but nonfactual and most of his comments make no sense. Once someone recognizes this he is quick to make changes that fit his theory, like a fart in the wind.
Pot calling kettle black again...
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/09/17 09:04 PM

This dude is on campus for a visit per slant.

https://n.rivals.com/content/prospects/2018/nick-williams-196209
Posted by: Kman_blue

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/09/17 11:38 PM

Be looking for some #neatdeals tomorrow!
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/10/17 10:39 AM

Lance Robinson headed to KU today. Went to KSU yesterday for an unofficial. He twitter makes it seem like he really enjoyed himself.
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/10/17 11:01 AM

Heard this dude was coming up with Cameron. Haven't confirmed with a solid source though.

http://247sports.com/Player/Damion-Dickens-76013
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/10/17 11:10 AM

Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
Not to put a damper on the blue sky crowd, but 247 has KU ranked at 26th. Not in the teens as reported here lately. Makes a difference
27th per 247 site today. Trending downward from #2 in Feb this year. Hopefully we maintain above 50 2018 team ranking when it's all said and done. Go Hawks!
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/10/17 07:49 PM

Originally Posted By: dgless21
Lance Robinson headed to KU today. Went to KSU yesterday for an unofficial. He twitter makes it seem like he really enjoyed himself.


Commits to ksu.
Posted by: bigdogjac

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/10/17 08:13 PM

Is that official?
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/10/17 08:18 PM

Originally Posted By: dgless21
Originally Posted By: dgless21
Lance Robinson headed to KU today. Went to KSU yesterday for an unofficial. He twitter makes it seem like he really enjoyed himself.


Commits to ksu.
Earlier today I was thinking that this guy was a KSUCK type guy. Feel free to pile on the kid.
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/10/17 08:20 PM

Originally Posted By: bigdogjac
Is that official?
Yes ask dogless for a source!!
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/10/17 10:46 PM

Originally Posted By: bigdogjac
Is that official?


He tweeted it out.

https://twitter.com/LanceR7_/status/873661547628949506
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/10/17 10:48 PM

Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
Yes ask dogless for a source!!


Wrong again. I have an awesome dog, Laura.
Posted by: MNJhawk

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/11/17 10:00 AM

Kelvin Joseph seems to be enjoying his time at KU quite a bit. has tweeted some pictures and retweeted this:

" UNCLEFAT 
💸
Retweeted
I sense a #neatdeal coming #DBU #kufball #JayCrew18"

and

" UNCLEFAT 
💸
Retweeted
If he goes to KU that's the best Safety Duo on the BIG XII #Louisianimals"

in regards to a picture he posted with Mike Lee
Posted by: 58hawk

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/11/17 10:10 AM

Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
Originally Posted By: bigdogjac
Is that official?
Yes ask dogless for a source!!
He doesn't need a source like you do. He provides links and you don't.
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/11/17 10:34 AM

http://digital.olivesoftware.com/Olive/ODN/DenverPost/get/TDP-2017-06-11/image.ashx?kind=block&href=TDP%2F2017%2F06%2F11&id=Pc0390300&ext=.jpg&ts=20170611103137
Aquib Talib is one of the MM guys from a great Kansas football history time period. The Denver Post Sunday sports feature article today.

Look it up if interested...it is worth reading MY LINK
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/11/17 10:58 AM

Originally Posted By: MNJhawk

in regards to a picture he posted with Mike Lee


Yeah Joseph posted a photo--Beaty, Hull, Lee, Joseph, and ? with the caption of "This special"

Hopefully a good sign.
Posted by: Kman_blue

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/11/17 12:58 PM

First #neatdeal from the weekend!

Big Smithie, aka Josh Smith, DE from NOLA commits to KU!
Posted by: Kman_blue

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/11/17 01:04 PM

Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
27th per 247 site today. Trending downward from #2 in Feb this year. Hopefully we maintain above 50 2018 team ranking when it's all said and done. Go Hawks!
KU just jumped up from #21 on Rivals rankings to #17 with the Josh Smith commitment and we still have 1 recruit unrated by them, which of course would bump us up some more when he gets a rating.

Oh no, the trend just went back up some. Good news of a talented SDE committing...what will you do now?? Oh, I know you'll spin it as #17 ranked class still being below a #2 ranked class when we all know how intellectually bankrupt that argument is already.
Posted by: Kman_blue

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/11/17 01:07 PM

Back to the Josh Smith commitment.

Welcome to the Jayhawk family Mr. Smith!!

<insert>Mr. Smith goes to Lawrence joke here</insert>
grin
Posted by: Kman_blue

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/11/17 01:59 PM

2 more #neatdeals!

Looks like a couple of bigJUCO DT teammates committed to KU too.

Jonathan Lolohea and Charles Cameron who both just finished up their official visits to KU have committed.

Welcome aboard Mr. Lolohea and Mr. Cameron!

More beef for the DL is always a good thing IMO!

Oh no, KU's national recruiting rank on Rivals now jumps up to #12 in the nation...let's see was #21 at the beginning of the day and now is at #12...carry the 1....add the 3...yep! 12 is a higher rank than 21...guess that's an upward trend!
Posted by: Kman_blue

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/11/17 02:03 PM

And just cause it's oh so fun, based on my best guess (on Copeland's rating) if they rated our 1 currently unranked recruit we'd be sitting at the #8 recruiting class in the nation right now.
Posted by: Kman_blue

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/11/17 02:10 PM

Originally Posted By: dgless21
Originally Posted By: MNJhawk

in regards to a picture he posted with Mike Lee


Yeah Joseph posted a photo--Beaty, Hull, Lee, Joseph, and ? with the caption of "This special"

Hopefully a good sign.

He just tweeted out that he "Enjoyed myself at KU"

Still probably a long shot to flip him, but it's always a good thing when you leave a recruit, especially such a highly rated/sought after recruit with a good feeling about your school and program. Let's other recruits know we're worth seriously looking at even if he doesn't flip to us IMHO.
Posted by: Topcitykid10

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/11/17 02:13 PM

From Jayhawk Slant:

"The #kufball defensive line recruiting is of the charts. Six total commits on the DL and all of them are legit guys"
Posted by: 58hawk

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/11/17 02:19 PM

Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
http://digital.olivesoftware.com/Olive/ODN/DenverPost/get/TDP-2017-06-11/image.ashx?kind=block&href=TDP%2F2017%2F06%2F11&id=Pc0390300&ext=.jpg&ts=20170611103137
Aquib Talib is one of the MM guys from a great Kansas football history time period. The Denver Post Sunday sports feature article today.

Look it up if interested...it is worth reading MY LINK
No one from around here gives a s#it about the Donks.
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/11/17 02:39 PM

Is this Hull or Perry's doing?

Or is Jesse Williams tearing it up on the recruiting trail?
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/11/17 02:42 PM

Originally Posted By: 58hawk
Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
http://digital.olivesoftware.com/Olive/ODN/DenverPost/get/TDP-2017-06-11/image.ashx?kind=block&href=TDP%2F2017%2F06%2F11&id=Pc0390300&ext=.jpg&ts=20170611103137
Aquib Talib is one of the MM guys from a great Kansas football history time period. The Denver Post Sunday sports feature article today.

Look it up if interested...it is worth reading MY LINK
No one from around here gives a s#it about the Donks.
This article is about a Kansas Jayhawk Talib during MM era. Quit spitting on our alumni, fool. Not a Broncos article, a Talib article. Been doing positive things since his leg getting shot incident.
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/11/17 02:46 PM

Originally Posted By: Kman_blue
And just cause it's oh so fun, based on my best guess (on Copeland's rating) if they rated our 1 currently unranked recruit we'd be sitting at the #8 recruiting class in the nation right now.
If we have a momentary positive recruitment ranking, is that considered a trend? Nope.

But still, it's good to hear your news.
Posted by: Kman_blue

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/11/17 02:51 PM

Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
Originally Posted By: Kman_blue
And just cause it's oh so fun, based on my best guess (on Copeland's rating) if they rated our 1 currently unranked recruit we'd be sitting at the #8 recruiting class in the nation right now.
If we have a momentary positive recruitment ranking, is that considered a trend? Nope.

But still, it's good to hear your news.
KU's recruiting trend is up and has been up for 3 straight classes now. Is that momentary? Nope.
Posted by: Kman_blue

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/11/17 03:18 PM

Originally Posted By: dgless21
Is this Hull or Perry's doing?

Or is Jesse Williams tearing it up on the recruiting trail?
I believe Josh was largely coach Hull's doing while Lolohea and Cameron were largely coach Yenser's doing. At least that's the impression I got.
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/11/17 03:21 PM

Josh used to be committed to Missouri if I heard correctly grin laugh
Posted by: Kman_blue

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/11/17 03:34 PM

Yes he was.

But...but...sec! sec! sec!

I guess it's working out just as they thought it would for them.
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/11/17 03:46 PM

Originally Posted By: Kman_blue
Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
Originally Posted By: Kman_blue
And just cause it's oh so fun, based on my best guess (on Copeland's rating) if they rated our 1 currently unranked recruit we'd be sitting at the #8 recruiting class in the nation right now.
If we have a momentary positive recruitment ranking, is that considered a trend? Nope.

But still, it's good to hear your news.
KU's recruiting trend is up and has been up for 3 straight classes now. Is that momentary? Nope.
With staff turnover the first two offseasons, do you want me to believe that it's a three year trend? Nope.

But still, the news this weekend sounds promising for a downtrodden program lately.
Posted by: Kman_blue

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/11/17 04:31 PM

Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
With staff turnover the first two offseasons, do you want me to believe that it's a three year trend? Nope.

But still, the news this weekend sounds promising for a downtrodden program lately.
The head coach has remained the same. Coach Beaty has KU's recruiting on a 3 year upward trend. A remarkable upward trend the likes KU hasn't seen since coach Fam in the 1970's.

Is it a 3 year trend under the same HC? Yep.
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/11/17 04:39 PM

Originally Posted By: Kman_blue
Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
With staff turnover the first two offseasons, do you want me to believe that it's a three year trend? Nope.

But still, the news this weekend sounds promising for a downtrodden program lately.
The head coach has remained the same. Coach Beaty has KU's recruiting on a 3 year upward trend. A remarkable upward trend the likes KU hasn't seen since coach Fam in the 1970's.

Is it a 3 year trend under the same HC? Yep.
So it's all on the HC to recruit at Kansas? I guess I know who to thank for 2-22 then. Can we wait until the signings to crown it "the dream team II"?
More like a nightmare at present.
Posted by: Kman_blue

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/11/17 05:33 PM

Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
Originally Posted By: Kman_blue
The head coach has remained the same. Coach Beaty has KU's recruiting on a 3 year upward trend. A remarkable upward trend the likes KU hasn't seen since coach Fam in the 1970's.

Is it a 3 year trend under the same HC? Yep.
So it's all on the HC to recruit at Kansas? I guess I know who to thank for 2-22 then. Can we wait until the signings to crown it "the dream team II"?
More like a nightmare at present.


Nice shifting of the topic at hand. I still see an upward trend for KU football recruiting.

Head coach is where the buck ultimately stops and so yes he gets most of the credit or blame for a lot of things, including our recruiting. He's done a masterful job of hiring coaches who have greatly helped in the recruiting department on top of what the head man himself has done.

I seem to recall a certain poster posting a bunch of skepticism of hiring some unknown Louisiana HS coach and even more skepticism and even down right hostility of said assistant coach getting a promotion and pay raise. Looks like that coach has been worth his weight in gold in terms of recruiting alone, even if you only look at who he brought in last year and if you took anytime to look him up and see what others said of him or watch previous video interviews of him before he got hired, you'd also realize he's a quality coach too.

The 2-22 was a result of a lot of things, including the HC. I'm not full of blind support nor blind hate unlike you so I'm not gonna gloss over any short comings I see with coach Beaty. The main reason though and the reason you fail to acknowledge or seem at all costs for whatever reason don't want to admit was the abysmal roster situation coach Beaty inherited from ex-coach Weis. We had around 47 recruited scholarship players on the roster when coach Beaty got the job. That's just about as bad as coming off the death penalty. Any coach of any caliber would have struggled greatly in the W's and L's department inheriting that situation. We'll start to get a much better read on what kind of HC Beaty is over the next 2 season when we'll finally have a program at a spot much more akin to what other P-5 programs are at.

But in terms of recruiting and KU's trend so far under coach Beaty, he's killing it.
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/11/17 05:51 PM

Kemon Smith

http://247sports.com/Player/Kemon-Smith-46038619

Put us in his top 7.
Posted by: pizzanbeer

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/11/17 06:01 PM

Beaty is doing a great job with this class. I like how he is landing good local players and players that are teammates at HS and Juco which should reduce poaching. Now he just needs to win more games this season. I hope Beaty and Hull can get Harris and Jason to KU early like they did with Lee. It would be nice to add more fire power to our offense and shore up our secondary for this season.
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/11/17 06:16 PM

Originally Posted By: pizzanbeer
Beaty is doing a great job with this class. I like how he is landing good local players and players that are teammates at HS and Juco which should reduce poaching. Now he just needs to win more games this season. I hope Beaty and Hull can get Harris and Jason to KU early like they did with Lee. It would be nice to add more fire power to our offense and shore up our secondary for this season.
The key here is, can Beaty coach? Our posters seem to give him carte blanch as it was the previous coach's fault. My take is that we had better options for the current HC. A guy who wants to win at all costs. Apparently kman blames Weis for doing the right thing kicking out the Gill rejects.
Posted by: PbBut

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/11/17 07:04 PM

I like all of these commits, football teams just can't have enough big guys. The Smith addition is really heartening, I hope its in an insight into how dedicated Harris and Jason are to their commitments. You know those guys are going to continue to get major heat from schools near home.
Posted by: appyhawk

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/11/17 10:10 PM

http://www.rockchalktalk.com/2017/6/11/1...-for-2018-class

"Per Rivals, Kansas has 13 verbal commits, and has moved back up to #12 in the class recruiting rankings."
Posted by: bigdogjac

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/11/17 10:39 PM

I am getting more excited. No telling where the rest of our recruiting season will go. Let's get that LA safety that is committed
to LSU.
Posted by: Kman_blue

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/12/17 03:22 AM

Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
Apparently kman blames Weis for doing the right thing kicking out the Gill rejects.
He did a lot more than run off some Gill rejects. He ran off some good quality Mangino recruits as well as some good quality Gill recruits. But even if you think he did the right thing in running off all of those guys, he utterly and completely failed to come close to replacing all of those guys he ran off. In fact he didn't even replace the guys we lost to graduation. That's how we ended up with only around 47 recruited scholarship players. So, yes, I blame him for leaving our roster in shambles by doing all of that. He did it. It happened all on his watch, so yes it's his fault and that kind of roster hole takes YEARS to recover from no matter who your new coach is.

You keep your head firmly planted up your own arse and ignore all of that or make some more excuses why that doesn't matter or whatever nonsense you come up with, but that's more to blame for much of KU's record over the past 2 years than anything else.
Posted by: Kman_blue

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/12/17 03:27 AM

Originally Posted By: bigdogjac
I am getting more excited. No telling where the rest of our recruiting season will go. Let's get that LA safety that is committed
to LSU.
That NOLA safety, Kelvin Joseph, apparently is spending another night in Kansas tonight. Don't think it was planned for him to spend an extra night here, so hopefully this is a good sign.

I also saw Charlot tweet out that the best decision he's made in his life is to come to KU. That coming from another highly rated former recruit from NOLA can't do anything but help out our cause I would think.

Fingers crossed we've still got a shot at flipping him! Would be yet another HUGE get for KU!

Man, this is exciting times for KU football recruiting right now. I'm lovin it!
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/12/17 06:11 AM

Originally Posted By: Kman_blue
Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
Apparently kman blames Weis for doing the right thing kicking out the Gill rejects.
He did a lot more than run off some Gill rejects. He ran off some good quality Mangino recruits as well as some good quality Gill recruits. But even if you think he did the right thing in running off all of those guys, he utterly and completely failed to come close to replacing all of those guys he ran off. In fact he didn't even replace the guys we lost to graduation. That's how we ended up with only around 47 recruited scholarship players. So, yes, I blame him for leaving our roster in shambles by doing all of that. He did it. It happened all on his watch, so yes it's his fault and that kind of roster hole takes YEARS to recover from no matter who your new coach is.

You keep your head firmly planted up your own arse and ignore all of that or make some more excuses why that doesn't matter or whatever nonsense you come up with, but that's more to blame for much of KU's record over the past 2 years than anything else.
So Weis couldn't win (past his prime in health) in his short tenure here (very true), but it could take years further from today to decide on whether Beaty can actually coach? Calling double standard on that reasoning. Weis had the opportunity to get his roster "up to snuff" (so to speak) and was fired because of it. We don't demand the same full roster from Beaty because...? He could have gotten more transfers, jucos, etc. to fill the allowable roster size by now. Convenient excuse for this guy to continue being a P5 HC without winning.
Posted by: kylecof11

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/12/17 08:49 AM

Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
Originally Posted By: Kman_blue
Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
Apparently kman blames Weis for doing the right thing kicking out the Gill rejects.
He did a lot more than run off some Gill rejects. He ran off some good quality Mangino recruits as well as some good quality Gill recruits. But even if you think he did the right thing in running off all of those guys, he utterly and completely failed to come close to replacing all of those guys he ran off. In fact he didn't even replace the guys we lost to graduation. That's how we ended up with only around 47 recruited scholarship players. So, yes, I blame him for leaving our roster in shambles by doing all of that. He did it. It happened all on his watch, so yes it's his fault and that kind of roster hole takes YEARS to recover from no matter who your new coach is.

You keep your head firmly planted up your own arse and ignore all of that or make some more excuses why that doesn't matter or whatever nonsense you come up with, but that's more to blame for much of KU's record over the past 2 years than anything else.
So Weis couldn't win (past his prime in health) in his short tenure here (very true), but it could take years further from today to decide on whether Beaty can actually coach? Calling double standard on that reasoning. Weis had the opportunity to get his roster "up to snuff" (so to speak) and was fired because of it. We don't demand the same full roster from Beaty because...? He could have gotten more transfers, jucos, etc. to fill the allowable roster size by now. Convenient excuse for this guy to continue being a P5 HC without winning.


Goodness. So you wanted Beaty to have a full roster in year 1 and 2, by recruiting JUCO's and transfers?? How did that work out for Weis and Co? Not too well if I recall. Set the program back 3 years.

But yet, one of Beaty's first gets from the HS ranks was Dorance Armstrong, who is preseason All Big 12 First Team this year and if he has a good year, could be gone to the draft. Pretty good success.

Here's the main difference between Weis and Beaty.. In my eyes, and in the eyes of the majority of posters, excluding you.

Weis showed up to visits showing his Super Bowl ring and just saying "trust me, I got this ring because I'm good". Maybe he tagged Campo along for some backup bling. While that is nice to show HS players, it doesn't do much else. And he couldn't coach college players.

Beaty and Co show up relating to players today. Knowing what they like and hiring younger guys that bring a ton of energy to the program. And they're attacking areas that KU football has never even thought about going to. Still to be seen how this translates to the field, but I think it's shown that more often than not, getting stud HS players can be a lot better than getting OK JUCO guys and transfers. And this staff is getting stud HS players.
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/12/17 09:08 AM

The roster was only part of why Weis was let go.

He was overpaid.

He had one power five win in 2.5 years.

In year 3, with only one underclassman starting, he averaged only 1.5 pts a game vs P5 competition.

Ticket sales were quickly declining.

He couldn't get his top recruits on campus or on the field (Wrench, Combs, Slater, Hyman, Martin, Short, MJM, etc). He spent a chunk of time and money chasing Reeve Khoeler in Hawaii and still got nothing. His highly ranked QB recruits got us three wins (SEMO, USD, La Tech).

He wasn't well-liked. He couldn't keep his mouth shut. He said embarrassing and stupid things.

His assistant coaches didn't stand out either. Grunhard, Ianello, and Powlus seemed like they were in over their heads. Mitchell was the lone bright spot in recruiting.

Then you add in the napping in meetings and supposed health issues, he needed to go.
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/12/17 09:45 AM

Originally Posted By: kylecof11
Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
Originally Posted By: Kman_blue
Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
Apparently kman blames Weis for doing the right thing kicking out the Gill rejects.
He did a lot more than run off some Gill rejects. He ran off some good quality Mangino recruits as well as some good quality Gill recruits. But even if you think he did the right thing in running off all of those guys, he utterly and completely failed to come close to replacing all of those guys he ran off. In fact he didn't even replace the guys we lost to graduation. That's how we ended up with only around 47 recruited scholarship players. So, yes, I blame him for leaving our roster in shambles by doing all of that. He did it. It happened all on his watch, so yes it's his fault and that kind of roster hole takes YEARS to recover from no matter who your new coach is.

You keep your head firmly planted up your own arse and ignore all of that or make some more excuses why that doesn't matter or whatever nonsense you come up with, but that's more to blame for much of KU's record over the past 2 years than anything else.
So Weis couldn't win (past his prime in health) in his short tenure here (very true), but it could take years further from today to decide on whether Beaty can actually coach? Calling double standard on that reasoning. Weis had the opportunity to get his roster "up to snuff" (so to speak) and was fired because of it. We don't demand the same full roster from Beaty because...? He could have gotten more transfers, jucos, etc. to fill the allowable roster size by now. Convenient excuse for this guy to continue being a P5 HC without winning.


Goodness. So you wanted Beaty to have a full roster in year 1 and 2, by recruiting JUCO's and transfers?? How did that work out for Weis and Co? Not too well if I recall. Set the program back 3 years.

But yet, one of Beaty's first gets from the HS ranks was Dorance Armstrong, who is preseason All Big 12 First Team this year and if he has a good year, could be gone to the draft. Pretty good success.

Here's the main difference between Weis and Beaty.. In my eyes, and in the eyes of the majority of posters, excluding you.

Weis showed up to visits showing his Super Bowl ring and just saying "trust me, I got this ring because I'm good". Maybe he tagged Campo along for some backup bling. While that is nice to show HS players, it doesn't do much else. And he couldn't coach college players.

Beaty and Co show up relating to players today. Knowing what they like and hiring younger guys that bring a ton of energy to the program. And they're attacking areas that KU football has never even thought about going to. Still to be seen how this translates to the field, but I think it's shown that more often than not, getting stud HS players can be a lot better than getting OK JUCO guys and transfers. And this staff is getting stud HS players.
My point was in YEAR THREE why are we still roster depleted? Is that Weis' fault now? Weis was a great coach at ND in his first year(s) but his prime was long gone due to health issues at Kansas. Both points I made originally...
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/12/17 09:53 AM

Originally Posted By: dgless21
The roster was only part of why Weis was let go.

He was overpaid.

He had one power five win in 2.5 years.

In year 3, with only one underclassman starting, he averaged only 1.5 pts a game vs P5 competition.

Ticket sales were quickly declining.

He couldn't get his top recruits on campus or on the field (Wrench, Combs, Slater, Hyman, Martin, Short, MJM, etc). He spent a chunk of time and money chasing Reeve Khoeler in Hawaii and still got nothing. His highly ranked QB recruits got us three wins (SEMO, USD, La Tech).

He wasn't well-liked. He couldn't keep his mouth shut. He said embarrassing and stupid things.

His assistant coaches didn't stand out either. Grunhard, Ianello, and Powlus seemed like they were in over their heads. Mitchell was the lone bright spot in recruiting.

Then you add in the napping in meetings and supposed health issues, he needed to go.
No problems with your post at all. But my point is it's year three and still no full roster. But that's no problem, blame Weis for it. Speaking of overpayment...for one relevant win.
Posted by: vmlb

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/12/17 09:59 AM

Why is this on the recruiting thread? Why is an article about Talib on the recruiting thread? Why do you people continue to argue with Charlie?
Put yourself in his shoes. If you put an apple and and orange in front of him, he will argue that they both are fruit, therefore they are equal and comparisons are fair. He will ignore all the facts such as; they are different colored, taste differently, have different nutrition values,etc.
Hence CW and DB are compared. Like apples and oranges he will ignore the differences. Give up.
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/12/17 11:57 AM

Kelvin Joseph now wearing a KU jersey and helmet in his twitter pic.

Again, not a bad sign, right?
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/12/17 12:10 PM

Originally Posted By: vmlb
Why is this on the recruiting thread? Why is an article about Talib on the recruiting thread? Why do you people continue to argue with Charlie?
Put yourself in his shoes. If you put an apple and and orange in front of him, he will argue that they both are fruit, therefore they are equal and comparisons are fair. He will ignore all the facts such as; they are different colored, taste differently, have different nutrition values,etc.
Hence CW and DB are compared. Like apples and oranges he will ignore the differences. Give up.
Pretty sure "Charlie" knows the difference.
Posted by: Kman_blue

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/12/17 12:47 PM

Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
So Weis couldn't win (past his prime in health) in his short tenure here (very true), but it could take years further from today to decide on whether Beaty can actually coach? Calling double standard on that reasoning. Weis had the opportunity to get his roster "up to snuff" (so to speak) and was fired because of it. We don't demand the same full roster from Beaty because...? He could have gotten more transfers, jucos, etc. to fill the allowable roster size by now. Convenient excuse for this guy to continue being a P5 HC without winning.
Apparently not only does simple logic and reasoning escape you, but so does math.

Here's the difference between when Weis took over and when coach Beaty took over and also why KU still doesn't have a full roster. It's called math!

The NCAA only allows 25 initial counters per year(transfers and JUCOs also count against this) and then you lose X number of Seniors every year plus some guys quit due to injury, transfer, etc. EVERY program loses guys in this manner every year. So, you start out with roughly 47 recruited scholarship guys then you lose 19 to graduation now you've got 28 returning for the next year and can only replace 25 of the 19(plus anyone who quits or transfers out) in the traditional way which brings you back up to roughly 55, or 30 short of where you should be. Now, coach Beaty and staff got really creative and found ways to bring some guys in and have their scholarships count forward so we were closer to around 58-59 guys his 1st year, or in other words still 26-27 short.

Then you've got the next year when you go through the same thing and we still end up being about 17-18 scholarship guys short. It's SIMPLE MATH. This isn't the NFL where you can just go out and completely replace your entire roster if you've got the cash and sign a bunch of free agents.

When Weis took over the program KU was near the 85 scholarship limit, so he had no roster hole to dig out of. He created a medium sized hole quickly though by running off 29 scholarship guys which put us around 7-10 scholarship guys short. Then he proceeded to recruit high risk recruits who as often as not never made it to campus, or if they did make it to campus they never made it to their 1st game. Thus you end up with a GIANT roster hole that takes YEARS to dig out of.

That's why coach Beaty isn't and shouldn't be held to the same standard as coach Weis or coach Gill or any other coach is/was when inheriting a more or less full roster.

Only a purposely obtuse, intellectually bankrupt person or a complete and total moron fails to acknowledge or understand this. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and put you in the 1st category.
Posted by: Kman_blue

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/12/17 12:51 PM

Originally Posted By: dgless21
Kelvin Joseph now wearing a KU jersey and helmet in his twitter pic.

Again, not a bad sign, right?
Not at all a bad sign IMHO.

I think you can interpret it in a couple of different ways, but the 2 most likely to me are, 1 he enjoyed his visit and he's giving KU some respect or 2 he's thinking about flipping but needs to get home and talk to his family before he decides.

Some may think he's simply trolling KU fans, but I don't get the feeling he'd do that kind of thing when he's just finishing up his visit. At least that's my take.

Either way, still probably an uphill battle for KU to flip him, but I like the look of this and he looks good in a KU jersey! grin
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/12/17 01:06 PM

Originally Posted By: Kman_blue
Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
So Weis couldn't win (past his prime in health) in his short tenure here (very true), but it could take years further from today to decide on whether Beaty can actually coach? Calling double standard on that reasoning. Weis had the opportunity to get his roster "up to snuff" (so to speak) and was fired because of it. We don't demand the same full roster from Beaty because...? He could have gotten more transfers, jucos, etc. to fill the allowable roster size by now. Convenient excuse for this guy to continue being a P5 HC without winning.
Apparently not only does simple logic and reasoning escape you, but so does math.

Here's the difference between when Weis took over and when coach Beaty took over and also why KU still doesn't have a full roster. It's called math!

The NCAA only allows 25 initial counters per year(transfers and JUCOs also count against this) and then you lose X number of Seniors every year plus some guys quit due to injury, transfer, etc. EVERY program loses guys in this manner every year. So, you start out with roughly 47 recruited scholarship guys then you lose 19 to graduation now you've got 28 returning for the next year and can only replace 25 of the 19(plus anyone who quits or transfers out) in the traditional way which brings you back up to roughly 55, or 30 short of where you should be. Now, coach Beaty and staff got really creative and found ways to bring some guys in and have their scholarships count forward so we were closer to around 58-59 guys his 1st year, or in other words still 26-27 short.

Then you've got the next year when you go through the same thing and we still end up being about 17-18 scholarship guys short. It's SIMPLE MATH. This isn't the NFL where you can just go out and completely replace your entire roster if you've got the cash and sign a bunch of free agents.

When Weis took over the program KU was near the 85 scholarship limit, so he had no roster hole to dig out of. He created a medium sized hole quickly though by running off 29 scholarship guys which put us around 7-10 scholarship guys short. Then he proceeded to recruit high risk recruits who as often as not never made it to campus, or if they did make it to campus they never made it to their 1st game. Thus you end up with a GIANT roster hole that takes YEARS to dig out of.

That's why coach Beaty isn't and shouldn't be held to the same standard as coach Weis or coach Gill or any other coach is/was when inheriting a more or less full roster.

Only a purposely obtuse, intellectually bankrupt person or a complete and total moron fails to acknowledge or understand this. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and put you in the 1st category.

https://tse1.mm.bing.net/th?id=OIP.UlGbL...id=3.1&rm=2 The other option you fail to mention. HC dragging his feet on filling the roster, as you mention, by counting MORE forward types because it's a convenient excuse. Dad gum it!
Posted by: kylecof11

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/12/17 01:28 PM

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/27142...nd-alabama-dont

Interesting article on BR.
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/12/17 02:26 PM

Originally Posted By: kylecof11
They mention unicorns. I don't need to say anymore...
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/12/17 03:56 PM

Originally Posted By: kylecof11


Kind of weak article. I assume he just tagged all the teams he mentioned as offers and posted it to their team pages for clicks.

Mike Lee was getting to this same point last summer before committing and enrolling in August. Texas, UGa, UNC, Miami, aTm, etc offered him, and he was only adding more offers as the weeks were passing.

Suggesting that one star makes a world of difference or makes him a "unicorn" is kind of comical. Bama will still get 5+ five star recruits before all is said and done.
Posted by: appyhawk

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/12/17 04:24 PM

"Suggesting that one star makes a world of difference or makes him a "unicorn" is kind of comical. Bama will still get 5+ five star recruits before all is said and done."

Another slant on the star game is that Bama will get recruits who become 5* recruits before all is said and done.
Funny how that works.
Posted by: appyhawk

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/12/17 04:29 PM

" I don't need to say anymore..."

After all this time you FINALLY came up with something solid.
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/12/17 04:51 PM

Originally Posted By: appyhawk
" I don't need to say anymore..."

After all this time you FINALLY came up with something solid.
I'm "obtuse", just not THAT obtuse. I never called you a unicorn but several others here fit the bill...
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/12/17 04:57 PM

Originally Posted By: appyhawk
"Suggesting that one star makes a world of difference or makes him a "unicorn" is kind of comical. Bama will still get 5+ five star recruits before all is said and done."

Another slant on the star game is that Bama will get recruits who become 5* recruits before all is said and done.
Funny how that works.
Our fiver was a four so we are talking about Kansas as well. FYI
Posted by: pizzanbeer

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/12/17 09:39 PM

Originally Posted By: dgless21
Kelvin Joseph now wearing a KU jersey and helmet in his twitter pic.

Again, not a bad sign, right?


KU students need to come up with a good uncle fat cheer for every time he gets a pick 6.
Posted by: 58hawk

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/12/17 10:17 PM

Rivals has us now at 13th after the most recent acquisitions. So much for a depleted roster...
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/13/17 06:40 AM

Originally Posted By: 58hawk
Rivals has us now at 13th after the most recent acquisitions. So much for a depleted roster...
It's all about the coaching, I've said it before...
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/13/17 08:31 AM

You were finally right about something, Laura!

You should stop posting and retire from the board on a good note.
Posted by: tmcats

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/13/17 12:41 PM

Originally Posted By: 58hawk
Rivals has us now at 13th after the most recent acquisitions. So much for a depleted roster...


you do that on purpose or just freudian?
Posted by: 58hawk

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/13/17 01:03 PM

Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
Originally Posted By: 58hawk
Rivals has us now at 13th after the most recent acquisitions. So much for a depleted roster...
It's all about the coaching, I've said it before...
Coaching and recruiting are two different things. So which is it? You don't mention coaching in your original comment.
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/13/17 03:13 PM

Originally Posted By: dg/sh/it/less21
You were finally right about something!

You should stop posting and retire from the board on a good note.
But then I would be leaving this unicorn's heaven!
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/13/17 03:17 PM

Originally Posted By: 58hawk
Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
Originally Posted By: 58hawk
Rivals has us now at 13th after the most recent acquisitions. So much for a depleted roster...
It's all about the coaching, I've said it before...
Coaching and recruiting are two different things. So which is it? You don't mention coaching in your original comment.
Without wins, the players we want will not show up for very long. Weakest link, is it lack of 85 schollies or the winless (2-22) coaching? I'm out of words to describe my dilemma...
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/13/17 03:33 PM

Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
But then I would be leaving this unicorn's heaven!


You're not a unicorn, and you're not going to heaven, Laura.

With all due respect, banjo-playing Hitler would annoy Jesus less than you.
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/13/17 03:40 PM

Originally Posted By: Laura
I'm out of words


The collective "we" can only hope.
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/13/17 04:38 PM

Originally Posted By: dgless21
Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
But then I would be leaving this unicorn's heaven!


You're not a unicorn, and you're not going to heaven.

With all due respect, banjo-playing Hitler would annoy Jesus less than you.
I'm not patient, so again "your" correct that it would annoy me more.

Secondly, I am due a lot more respect around here...

And finally, kman is the #1 unicorn in this heaven. I just call you "number two". Big o #2.
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/13/17 04:48 PM

Originally Posted By: dgless21
Originally Posted By: Thorn in dgless21's side
I'm out of words


The collective "we" can only hope.
You don't say!
Posted by: vmlb

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/14/17 01:39 PM

Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
Originally Posted By: dgless21
Originally Posted By: Thorn in dgless21's side
I'm out of words


The collective "we" can only hope.
You don't say!


Another pipe dream shot down by charlie
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/14/17 03:48 PM

Originally Posted By: vmlb
Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
Originally Posted By: dgless21
Originally Posted By: Thorn in dgless21's side
I'm out of words


The collective "we" can only hope.
You don't say!


Another pipe dream shot down by charlie
I have too many supporters here to ever leave.
Posted by: 58hawk

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/14/17 06:41 PM

Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC

Another pipe dream shot down by charlie
I have too many supporters here to ever leave. [/quote] Jock straps or supporters?
Posted by: 58hawk

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/14/17 06:43 PM

Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
Originally Posted By: 58hawk
Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
Originally Posted By: 58hawk
Rivals has us now at 13th after the most recent acquisitions. So much for a depleted roster...
It's all about the coaching, I've said it before...
Coaching and recruiting are two different things. So which is it? You don't mention coaching in your original comment.
Without wins, the players we want will not show up for very long. Weakest link, is it lack of 85 schollies or the winless (2-22) coaching? I'm out of words to describe my dilemma...
Indeed your dilemma.
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/14/17 07:47 PM

Offered this dude:

http://247sports.com/Player/Adonis-Boone-45572749
Posted by: bigdogjac

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/14/17 08:25 PM

Not getting much D1 attention yet.
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/14/17 08:28 PM

He has two other power five offers (Missouri, Miss State) and 15+ other FBS offers. Not too bad.
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/14/17 08:44 PM

Originally Posted By: 58hawk
Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC

Another pipe dream shot down by charlie
I have too many supporters here to ever leave.
Jock straps or supporters? [/quote]You are my # 1 jock strapper.
Posted by: bigdogjac

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/14/17 09:47 PM

kiss my butt.....I didn't look at the rest of the list.
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/15/17 05:28 AM

Originally Posted By: bigdogjac
kiss my butt.....I didn't look at the rest of the list.
A Florida kid who may be interested in staying closer at Florida Southern. But sounds like a good offer for Kansas to make.
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/15/17 09:02 AM

Originally Posted By: bigdogjac
kiss my butt.....I didn't look at the rest of the list.


No big deal. 247 listing the lesser schools on the first page is somewhat misleading.
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/15/17 09:04 AM

Slant reporting that Tovi is on campus and has officially joined the team.
Posted by: kylecof11

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/15/17 10:59 AM

I love how the staff is starting to get after it on the trenches. Gotten some big time players on the perimeter and now building on the lines again. That was a big priority when Beaty first got here, and then he got skill guys and now back to the line.

At least, that's what seems to be the focus.
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/15/17 01:32 PM

He's getting ready to announce his top 6, but this seems like a good sign.

Ryan Malbrough‏ @_salt29 2h
Much love from the fans out there in #KU! 🔴🔵#RockChalk

https://n.rivals.com/content/prospects/2018/ryan-malbrough-203227
Posted by: 58hawk

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/15/17 04:11 PM

Originally Posted By: dgless21
Slant reporting that Tovi is on campus and has officially joined the team.
Is he eligible to play this season? JW article really didn't specify.
Posted by: 58hawk

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/15/17 04:13 PM

Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
Originally Posted By: bigdogjac
kiss my butt.....I didn't look at the rest of the list.
A Florida kid who may be interested in staying closer at Florida Southern. But sounds like a good offer for Kansas to make.
FYI, Florida Southern doesn't play football... At least since 1935.
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/15/17 04:58 PM

Originally Posted By: 58hawk
Originally Posted By: dgless21
Slant reporting that Tovi is on campus and has officially joined the team.
Is he eligible to play this season? JW article really didn't specify.


Yeah. He will have four years to use his three years of playing eligibility.
Posted by: vmlb

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/15/17 07:22 PM

Originally Posted By: 58hawk
Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
Originally Posted By: bigdogjac
kiss my butt.....I didn't look at the rest of the list.
A Florida kid who may be interested in staying closer at Florida Southern. But sounds like a good offer for Kansas to make.
FYI, Florida Southern doesn't play football... At least since 1935.


We should steal their recruits like OU steals ours.
Posted by: appyhawk

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/15/17 09:03 PM

I forget, who is Tovi?
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/15/17 09:22 PM

Andru Tovi is a 6'3", 320ish pound guard that transferred in from Pima CC.

http://www.hudl.com/profile/3887256/andru-tovi

He's expected to compete for playing time at one of the guard positions.

http://www2.kusports.com/news/2017/jun/15/ku-football-adds-depth-o-line-former-juco-guard/
Posted by: pizzanbeer

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/15/17 09:46 PM

It is nice to see Beaty add a road grader on OL. That should lead to more success when we run it up the middle. I would take a few more OL about that size to add depth when we need to push DTs out of the way.
Posted by: appyhawk

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/16/17 09:43 AM

Pretty "neat deal" to get a guy like that as a walk on.
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/16/17 09:56 AM

I don't believe he's a walk on.
Posted by: schmuck34

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/16/17 10:08 AM

I highly doubt it as well dgless. A guy with offers isn't likely to walk on.
Posted by: Kman_blue

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/16/17 05:59 PM

Yeah, I believe he was what you call in NCAA parlance "an unrecruited athlete" which more or less means, KU couldn't talk about him or actively recruit him. No in-home visits allowed nor any official visit to KU, etc. He could make an unofficial visit on his own. He could also stay in contact with the coaches on his own with some very limited contact initiated by KU was allowed, bot otherwise he was free game for any program to recruit and try to sign right up until the day he enrolled in classes or took part in team practices at KU.

99% of the time these types of recruits are Blue Shirts who have to pay their own way for the summer which means technically he's a walk-on right now. As soon as fall practices start though, he'll go on full financial support and be a full scholarship guy at KU from then on but his official scholarship won't start until the 2018 spring semester and he'll count against the 2018 class.
Posted by: Kman_blue

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/16/17 06:00 PM

Oh, and I might add do to NCAA rule changes in recruiting, I believe this will be the last year for Blue Shirts or Gray Shirts, but not Red Shirts!
Posted by: pizzanbeer

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/17/17 06:40 PM

Originally Posted By: Kman_blue
Oh, and I might add do to NCAA rule changes in recruiting, I believe this will be the last year for Blue Shirts or Gray Shirts, but not Red Shirts!


While the blue shirt rule is still available Beaty and Hull should use it to bring in some of our higher ranked recruits early like they did with Lee.
Posted by: Kman_blue

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/18/17 01:45 PM

That'd be a good idea and I believe KU has and is looking at all options in this regard. I also believe Jason and Harris are going to both be December grads and possibly Tune and 1 other as well.

I guess I should qualify that as far as is known both Jason and Harris are believed to be December grads I'm sure if it's at all possible for either or both to qualify for graduation already and show up in Lawrence in August that the KU staff is working hard to make that happen.
Posted by: Kman_blue

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/18/17 03:10 PM

I find it interesting and very cool that Kelvin Joseph's profile pic on twitter is still him in a KU uniform from his visit last weekend. Maybe there's more to it than just showing some respect or having some fun? He did after all stay an extra day and night in Lawrence that wasn't planned and I think his mother was on the visit with him.

Maybe not just coach Hull and Mike Lee are responsible for having an obvious positive impact on our Boot recruitin?

I'm really impressed to see Daylon Charlot's recent tweet about his decision to come to KU pinned at the top of his twitter page.

For those who either can't for some reason click on the link to the tweet or are just too lazy, here's what it says.

Daylon Charlot‏ @DaylonCharlot2

Best decision I feel like I've ever made was coming to KU..


That can't hurt recruiting other guys from Louisiana any.

I love how we're creating a pipeline from L-state to L-town!
Posted by: bigdogjac

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/18/17 04:00 PM

Great information Kman! I was wondering how all that worked. With that said, how did the other schools be able to offer him?
Posted by: pizzanbeer

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/18/17 04:06 PM

Beaty has to win more games this season to help hold onto this class. I hope the coaches already are drawing up some winning game plans. Then have the players learn the basic game plans now so they have less to learn when the games roll around. Beaty and his coaches need to keep this recruiting class together and finish as strong as they started.
Posted by: Kman_blue

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/19/17 07:57 AM

Originally Posted By: bigdogjac
Great information Kman! I was wondering how all that worked. With that said, how did the other schools be able to offer him?
Are you asking about Tovi?

If so, they were able because he hadn't signed a LOI so he wasn't tied to KU in any official way so he was free game to recruit. The other schools could have recruited him as a standard scholarship player which means they could have made lots of contact with him and/or his JUCO coaches as well as have him take an official visit. Of course these other schools had to have a remaining scholarship for their 2017 class too. KU on the other hand didn't have anymore scholarships for our 2017 class and that's why he has to Blueshirt here at KU. I also, don't think a lot of other schools thought he would be available for the 2017 season though, so not many were going after him hard.

He was a full qualifier out of high school, so he could go right from JUCO to any school after his 1st year at JUCO without getting his degree. But he had to also have a minimum GPA during that year at JUCO and apparently he didn't after his 1st semester, so a lot of schools thought he'd be at JUCO for another year. He got a 4.0 though in the spring semester which boosted his GPA well above the NCAA required minimum and that's how he got to KU here in June.

I think he has a good chance to win 1 of the starting spots at G and even if he doesn't I think he'll definitely be on the 2 deep adding good quality depth for us there.
Posted by: bigdogjac

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/19/17 03:22 PM

I don't think I have ever seen a lineman continue until the whistle blows on every play. I realize it was a highlight film and he probably did take some plays off to a degree. He showed good footwork and had some quickness and speed. He may get some holding calls in the Big 12. If that were to stop drives he will be on the bench. He will have to work on that. Really good looking prospect.
Posted by: Jman1

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/19/17 03:51 PM

BigDog
Every offensive lineman holds. If they were to call all the holding penalties the games would last 7 hours and finish with 3-0 scores. But I agree he does look like a legit guard prospect. Pair him the right with Baldwin and that could be deadly for the opposition. Two road Graters could really do work on the right
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/19/17 05:21 PM

Thinking the emphasis on line guys is a sign of potential success.
Posted by: 58hawk

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/19/17 07:01 PM

Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
Thinking the emphasis on line guys is a sign of potential success.
wait a minute-I thought you didn't like anything about Beaty?
Posted by: Kman_blue

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/19/17 07:38 PM

Originally Posted By: 58hawk
Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
Thinking the emphasis on line guys is a sign of potential success.
wait a minute-I thought you didn't like anything about Beaty?
He doesn't. He credits Craig Bohl for this emphasis on "line guys".
Posted by: pizzanbeer

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/21/17 08:54 PM

Aaron Brule just backed out of his commitment on twitter. His twitter comments leading up to that mentioned his upcoming visits to Georgia and Texas so this was not a surprise. I am glad he made this decision now so the coaches have plenty of time to find his replacement.
Posted by: pizzanbeer

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/21/17 10:14 PM

Neat Deal alert in the 314 area code which is probably Nick Williams, OT, 6'8", 260.
Posted by: EstebanBugatti

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/21/17 10:38 PM

Originally Posted By: pizzanbeer
Aaron Brule just backed out of his commitment on twitter. His twitter comments leading up to that mentioned his upcoming visits to Georgia and Texas so this was not a surprise. I am glad he made this decision now so the coaches have plenty of time to find his replacement.

Brule was gone the second Chase left. Not sure why he waited this long to announce it.
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/22/17 07:57 AM

Originally Posted By: pizzanbeer
Neat Deal alert in the 314 area code which is probably Nick Williams, OT, 6'8", 260.


Yep. Reported by Phog.net and Slant last night.

Curious how Missouri feels about their in-state recruiting right now. Strongest class in Missouri in years, and they don't have a single in-state commit.
Posted by: bigdogjac

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/22/17 08:58 AM

Fantastic recruit coaching staff. Keep them coming.
Posted by: Hot_Toddy

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/22/17 09:20 AM

I'm not sure on his scholarship status but this kid just arrived on campus. He originally signed with North Carolina out of high school - Class of 2016.

James Pierre - Safety

Considered one of the top 100 players in the state of Florida and the No. 48 safety in the nation in the 247sports composite rankings • Ranked the No. 42 safety in the country by Rivals.com • Listed as the No. 22 safety in the East by Scout.com • Considered one of the top 25 players in Broward County • Sun Sentinel All-County honorable mention as a senior • Posted 48 tackles, four interceptions and two pass deflections as a senior • Also had four punt returns for 79 yards and a touchdown • Led Deerfield Beach to a 10-2 mark and a spot in the regional semifinals in the 8A state playoffs
Rivals player link
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/22/17 09:32 AM

It's interesting that 247 has him committing to Syracuse out of HS.

http://247sports.com/Recruitment/James-Pierre-37970/RecruitInterests

Nice pickup based on his offers. Good size for a safety. The competition next to Lee still hasn't been solidified, so hopefully he can come in and push for PT.
Posted by: pizzanbeer

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/22/17 09:57 AM

Pierre has an interesting path. Flipped from Miami to UNC and was not admitted. Then he committed to Syracuse and did not meet NCAA requirements. I bet his academic credentials are dialed in by now.
Posted by: bigdogjac

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/22/17 11:36 AM

In reading this I was first wondering if he had ever played for anybody. Looks like he will have 5 to play 4?
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/22/17 11:47 AM

Originally Posted By: Kman_blue
Originally Posted By: 58hawk
Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
Thinking the emphasis on line guys is a sign of potential success.
wait a minute-I thought you didn't like anything about Beaty?
He doesn't. He credits Craig Bohl for this emphasis on "line guys".
Everything about that guy says "potential".

Hit or miss? Don't know.
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/22/17 12:25 PM

Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
Don't know.


A two word summary of every post you've ever made.
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/22/17 01:53 PM

Originally Posted By: dgless21
Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
Don't know.


A two word summary of every post you've ever made.
Taken out of context. "Don't know about that dgless21". FYP.
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/22/17 04:32 PM

With Nick Williams in and Aaron Brule out (at least for now), we sit at 16th on Rivals team rankings.

Mac Copeland, somewhat as expected, has finally got a rating as a two star.
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/22/17 04:40 PM

Haven't looked lately but mid 20's in 247 site. Nothing but the truth!
Posted by: schmuck34

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/22/17 05:38 PM

Any links on Pierre to KU?
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/23/17 12:28 PM

Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
Haven't looked lately but mid 20's in 247 site. Nothing but the truth!
Looked up our 247 site team standings for 2018 recruiting - 27th.

Still trending downward.
Posted by: Kman_blue

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/23/17 05:00 PM

Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
27th per 247 site today...


Post: #2017970 - 06/10/17 11:10 AM

Looks like a flat trend to me 2 weeks later and if you look at the bigger picture, it's still a definite upward trend since coach Beaty was announced as our new HC. Hell, it's an upward trend since the year before Mangino got fired. i.e. the best recruiting class so far in the Rivals/recruiting website era. Truth!
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/23/17 08:47 PM

Originally Posted By: Kman_blue
Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
27th per 247 site today...


Post: #2017970 - 06/10/17 11:10 AM

Looks like a flat trend to me 2 weeks later and if you look at the bigger picture, it's still a definite upward trend since coach Beaty was announced as our new HC. Hell, it's an upward trend since the year before Mangino got fired. i.e. the best recruiting class so far in the Rivals/recruiting website era. Truth!
If I recall that going from #2 to #27 is called trending downward.
Posted by: Kman_blue

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/23/17 11:16 PM

If you insist on picking an arbitrary start to your trend, then the simple answer is there ain't no where to go from the top except downward. To expect KU to stay at #2 the entire recruiting season is a bit delusional on your part. Maybe in the near future, but not at this point in time, nor at any point in our history either.
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/24/17 01:28 AM

Simple answer is yes trending downward. Just remember my ultimate positive ranking. It's all good.

Two weeks does not a trend make.
Posted by: Kman_blue

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/24/17 08:53 AM

According to you 4 to 5 weeks(how long we've been at about the same recruiting class ranking as today) does not a trend make, 2 or 3 or more years does not a trend make, but about 12 to 13 weeks does a trend make.

No...no...no...not arbitrary as hell....nah...and not at all arbitrary in a manner to only malign and slight our program and current HC. Nah....not at all.

You look like a grape fan.
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/24/17 09:35 AM

Originally Posted By: Kman_blue
According to you 4 to 5 weeks(how long we've been at about the same recruiting class ranking as today) does not a trend make, 2 or 3 or more years does not a trend make, but about 12 to 13 weeks does a trend make.

No...no...no...not arbitrary as hell....nah...and not at all arbitrary in a manner to only malign and slight our program and current HC. Nah....not at all.

You look like a grape fan.
You brought up the two week period, so I followed your lead. "at about the same" sure sounds like it changed in 4-5 week period somehow. If we had a 2018 ranking for team recruiting "three or more years" ago, please enlighten me! If 12-13 weeks are used, it's to judge our 2018 recruiting. Not arbitrary at all. Your last comment really hurts! A Lawrence, Kansas, native and alumni of KU Business School with a BS. I have tried to find the football stadium in Manhattan but they seem to hide it pretty well...
Posted by: 58hawk

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/24/17 11:26 AM

Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
Haven't looked lately but mid 20's in 247 site. Nothing but the truth!
Looked up our 247 site team standings for 2018 recruiting - 27th.

Still trending downward.
I can play that game as well-17th per Rivals.
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/24/17 12:11 PM

I'm good if you're good.
Posted by: Kman_blue

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/24/17 01:52 PM

Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
"at about the same" sure sounds like it changed in 4-5 week period somehow.
It's gone up a few spots and down a few spots and then back up a few spots, and now is within 1 spot of where it was 5 weeks ago.

Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
If 12-13 weeks are used, it's to judge our 2018 recruiting. Not arbitrary at all.
No it's not. It's used by you to somehow smear and diminish our currently highly ranked recruiting class. If you really wanted to judge it honestly you'd compare it to previous KU recruiting classes as well as all other P-5 programs current classes, instead of arbitrarily picking some date earlier this year. That's grape behavior to a T.
Posted by: Kman_blue

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/24/17 01:59 PM

Originally Posted By: schmuck34
Any links on Pierre to KU?
The coaches did a very good job of keeping him a complete secret until he showed up on campus. Don't think anyone has officially acknowledged he's part of the team yet.
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/24/17 02:16 PM

Originally Posted By: Kman_blue
Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
"at about the same" sure sounds like it changed in 4-5 week period somehow.
It's gone up a few spots and down a few spots and then back up a few spots, and now is within 1 spot of where it was 5 weeks ago.

Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
If 12-13 weeks are used, it's to judge our 2018 recruiting. Not arbitrary at all.
No it's not. It's used by you to somehow smear and diminish our currently highly ranked recruiting class. If you really wanted to judge it honestly you'd compare it to previous KU recruiting classes as well as all other P-5 programs current classes, instead of arbitrarily picking some date earlier this year. That's grape behavior to a T.
You say three or more years. I say Beaty era at a minimum. No grapes involved
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/24/17 02:18 PM

But 2018 commits haven't signed off yet, but the staff got huge raises. Cart before horse.
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/24/17 02:21 PM

Originally Posted By: Kman_blue
Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
"at about the same" sure sounds like it changed in 4-5 week period somehow.
It's gone up a few spots and down a few spots and then back up a few spots, and now is within 1 spot of where it was 5 weeks ago.

Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
If 12-13 weeks are used, it's to judge our 2018 recruiting. Not arbitrary at all.
No it's not. It's used by you to somehow smear and diminish our currently highly ranked recruiting class. If you really wanted to judge it honestly you'd compare it to previous KU recruiting classes as well as all other P-5 programs current classes, instead of arbitrarily picking some date earlier this year. That's grape behavior to a T.
Sure you say one thing then it's another
Posted by: Kman_blue

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/25/17 07:19 AM

I say having the #17 ranked recruiting class in the nation according to Rivals or having the #28 ranked recruiting class according to 247 in June is pretty impressive and much better than where KU has been at this time of year since recruiting website have been around.

I don't use some incoherent arbitrary flawed grape logic to support a sh!t on KU football agenda like you do to spin this great KU class into anything other than a positive.
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/25/17 07:58 PM

A potential recruit class is Way too early to grade out.
Posted by: 58hawk

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/25/17 10:10 PM

Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
A potential recruit class is Way too early to grade out.
That could be true for any program. So where is the outcry with other teams?
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/26/17 08:48 AM

58- Kansas football has not been good and I am not a proud alumni when I say 2-22. Players know it, fans etc. We need coaching big time
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/26/17 08:52 AM

Originally Posted By: Kman_blue
I say having the #17 ranked recruiting class in the nation according to Rivals or having the #28 ranked recruiting class according to 247 in June is pretty impressive and much better than where KU has been at this time of year since recruiting website have been around.

I don't use some incoherent arbitrary flawed grape logic to support a sh!t on KU football agenda like you do to spin this great KU class into anything other than a positive.
A sh!t approach deserves some truth.
Posted by: track

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/26/17 11:43 AM

Don't know if we can maintain our current ranking but it would be pretty cool if we do. Anything in the top 40 when the final rankings come out will be a step forward.
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/26/17 01:54 PM

Originally Posted By: track
Don't know if we can maintain our current ranking but it would be pretty cool if we do. Anything in the top 40 when the final rankings come out will be a step forward.
My guestimate was anywhere in top 50...a step forward. Very true.
Posted by: EstebanBugatti

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/26/17 01:57 PM

There are so many mysteries left in our universe. None of them are more perplexing than why you people continue to feed the biggest troll ever.
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/26/17 02:03 PM

Define "you people" please.
Posted by: 58hawk

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/26/17 05:36 PM

Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
58- Kansas football has not been good and I am not a proud alumni when I say 2-22. Players know it, fans etc. We need coaching big time
Why don't you give the program a chance like we gave Weis?
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/26/17 06:06 PM

Originally Posted By: 58hawk
Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
58- Kansas football has not been good and I am not a proud alumni when I say 2-22. Players know it, fans etc. We need coaching big time
Why don't you give the program a chance like we gave Weis?
That would be four more games? I give this guy a full year even though he wasn't Natl College Coach of the Year like Weis.
Posted by: 58hawk

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/26/17 10:29 PM

Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
Originally Posted By: 58hawk
Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
58- Kansas football has not been good and I am not a proud alumni when I say 2-22. Players know it, fans etc. We need coaching big time
Why don't you give the program a chance like we gave Weis?
That would be four more games? I give this guy a full year even though he wasn't Natl College Coach of the Year like Weis.
Weis didn't win that award at KU.
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/26/17 11:46 PM

Originally Posted By: 58hawk
Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
Originally Posted By: 58hawk
Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
58- Kansas football has not been good and I am not a proud alumni when I say 2-22. Players know it, fans etc. We need coaching big time
Why don't you give the program a chance like we gave Weis?
That would be four more games? I give this guy a full year even though he wasn't Natl College Coach of the Year like Weis.
Weis didn't win that award at KU.
Did someone say he did?
Posted by: Kman_blue

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/27/17 09:48 AM

Originally Posted By: EstebanBugatti
There are so many mysteries left in our universe. None of them are more perplexing than why you people continue to feed the biggest troll ever.
It's the heart of the off-season. What can I say?

On the subject at hand, I heard a talented local guy just officially joined the team as a preferred walk-on. Dai Coy Haley a 6'2" 285lbs DT out of Atchison, KS just arrived. I believe Dgless21 had mentioned him awhile ago as KU making him an offer.

Kid is a bit short for the DL, but has a really high motor and good strength. He broke his ankle last year and so only played in a small number of games for his HS, otherwise I think he would have had some full ride offers from some schools. I like this kid's upside and think he could be a contributor on the DL before his time is done here at KU.
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/27/17 10:53 AM

Originally Posted By: Kman_blue
Originally Posted By: EstebanBugatti
There are so many mysteries left in our universe. None of them are more perplexing than why you people continue to feed the biggest troll ever.
It's the heart of the off-season. What can I say?

On the subject at hand, I heard a talented local guy just officially joined the team as a preferred walk-on. Dai Coy Haley a 6'2" 285lbs DT out of Atchison, KS just arrived. I believe Dgless21 had mentioned him awhile ago as KU making him an offer.
Nothing else to do in the off season is true. Bug at ya is not too chatty on here but is certainly welcome to venture his opinion. I do like a local guy trying to catch on BTW.
Posted by: Topcitykid10

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/27/17 01:12 PM

Just curious if we can vote KUCO_VOC off the island?

Maybe i should start a thread on the message board so we don't clog up this thread like he does all the time but damn man. Do you just wake up and sit in your moms basement and watch this like a hawk?

We all get it! You like to make comments on everything but wish this would all stay on topic.

Ok said my two cents.
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/27/17 01:19 PM

The moderators here do less than Weis did in his 2.5 years at KU, so it's not likely KUCO goes anywhere.
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/27/17 01:46 PM

Originally Posted By: Topcitykid10
Just curious if we can vote KUCO_VOC off the island?

Maybe i should start a thread on the message board so we don't clog up this thread like he does all the time but damn man. Do you just wake up and sit in your moms basement and watch this like a hawk?

We all get it! You like to make comments on everything but wish this would all stay on topic.

Ok said my two cents.
If you think my stuff is voluminous, I understand. I think you've contributed 10 posts so far in 2017. 1.5 posts a month. You make this Board!!!

If we all contribute 1.5 posts a month here, this Board is over! My, aren't you judgmental!

If I had "one wish, stay on topic" You violated your own wish, buddy. Oh, I live in your mom's basement..she's pretty nice to me.

Now, run back to your crowd on dot net. They tolerate your incessant shrill voice.
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/27/17 01:49 PM

Originally Posted By: dgless21
The moderators here do less than Weis did in his 2.5 years at KU, so it's not likely KUCO goes anywhere.
KU to BIG10, then I'm gone...if you think I'm bad, go over to dot net and see the litter left by Topkitty10 and her crowd.
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/27/17 03:22 PM

I looked up 247 site's football 2018 team rankings and Kansas is listed on 062717 at 32nd. Trending downward from 2nd place weeks ago.

Don't shoot the messenger.
Posted by: kylecof11

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/27/17 03:26 PM

Actually it's 30th. Even when you try to get ahead of the game, you still fall way short.
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/27/17 03:39 PM

Originally Posted By: kylecof11
Actually it's 30th. Even when you try to get ahead of the game, you still fall way short.
http://247sports.com/Season/2018-Football/TeamRankings

I think a 3 followed by a 2 = 32. Open up the link, shorty.

I prove my point all the time shorty. Even if you dodge it.

Edit: Rivals has dipped as well. I don't use them but 58 mentions it.
Posted by: 58hawk

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/27/17 04:58 PM

Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
Originally Posted By: kylecof11
Actually it's 30th. Even when you try to get ahead of the game, you still fall way short.
http://247sports.com/Season/2018-Football/TeamRankings

I think a 3 followed by a 2 = 32. Open up the link, shorty.
247 doesn't list our 5 star so that may be skewed. Meanwhile on Rivals we are at 20. Not losing ground just other programs have added players.
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/27/17 05:31 PM

Originally Posted By: 58hawk
Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
Originally Posted By: kylecof11
Actually it's 30th. Even when you try to get ahead of the game, you still fall way short.
http://247sports.com/Season/2018-Football/TeamRankings

I think a 3 followed by a 2 = 32. Open up the link, shorty.
247 doesn't list our 5 star so that may be skewed. Meanwhile on Rivals we are at 20. Not losing ground just other programs have added players.
Posters made up the fiver 58. fake news

Will we lose games(ground), but not really this year? We are being philosophical now.
Posted by: 58hawk

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/27/17 07:20 PM

Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
Originally Posted By: 58hawk
Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
Originally Posted By: kylecof11
Actually it's 30th. Even when you try to get ahead of the game, you still fall way short.
http://247sports.com/Season/2018-Football/TeamRankings

I think a 3 followed by a 2 = 32. Open up the link, shorty.
247 doesn't list our 5 star so that may be skewed. Meanwhile on Rivals we are at 20. Not losing ground just other programs have added players.
Posters made up the fiver 58. fake news

Will we lose games(ground), but not really this year? We are being philosophical now.
Not true. Rivals reclassified him from a 4 to a 5 star.
Posted by: Kman_blue

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/27/17 08:14 PM

Originally Posted By: 58hawk
247 doesn't list our 5 star so that may be skewed. Meanwhile on Rivals we are at 20. Not losing ground just other programs have added players.
Last time I checked, 247 doesn't really rate recruits themselves, but uses some formula based on the ratings from 3 or 4 other recruiting websites to come up with some kind of average for the player. I believe ESPN currently rates Jason as barely being in their top 250 and that has heavily skewed not only his rating on 247 but also our team rating there in large part.
Posted by: pizzanbeer

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/28/17 12:07 AM

Our main competition for recruits this year looks to be Miss State. They always pop up as the other power 5 school on a recruit's list of offers when KU has offered. I am glad to see our recruiting open up so we are not focused just on recruits from Texas.
Posted by: kylecof11

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/28/17 08:28 AM

Good article on Hull.. Refuse to lose mentality has taken over on the recruiting trail and will sooner rather than later move to the football field on a daily basis.

http://www2.kusports.com/news/2017/jun/27/i-refuse-lose-assistant-tony-hulls-personality-mak/
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/28/17 08:34 AM

Originally Posted By: pizzanbeer
Our main competition for recruits this year looks to be Miss State. They always pop up as the other power 5 school on a recruit's list of offers when KU has offered. I am glad to see our recruiting open up so we are not focused just on recruits from Texas.


It's interesting to see that based on recent history. They get a large chunk of their recruits in state or they take the Alabama leftovers from Bama and Auburn.

If you look at their current 11 commits, 8 of them come from Mississippi. Previous years had 15, 9, 16, and 15 from the state or Mississippi.
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/28/17 09:19 AM

Originally Posted By: kylecof11
Good article on Hull.. Refuse to lose mentality has taken over on the recruiting trail and will sooner rather than later move to the football field on a daily basis.

http://www2.kusports.com/news/2017/jun/27/i-refuse-lose-assistant-tony-hulls-personality-mak/
The guy got a huge raise based on potential recruiting when it ranked in top five for 2018 recruiting. It's at 32 now, shorty. You should just admit it and move on. 32.
Posted by: Kman_blue

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/28/17 02:41 PM

Originally Posted By: pizzanbeer
Our main competition for recruits this year looks to be Miss State. They always pop up as the other power 5 school on a recruit's list of offers when KU has offered. I am glad to see our recruiting open up so we are not focused just on recruits from Texas.
OU has gone hard after quite a few of our offers right after we offered them as well, but they're much more selective about it than Miss. St. is. TTech has also gone hard after a lot of our offers right after we offered them as well.

Those 3 are probably the most obvious schools who've seemed to adopt as a part of their recruiting strategy of trusting our staff's evaluation of a prospect and then offering that recruit and try to negatively recruit against KU. Meaning they try to win a recruit over by being negative about KU's program/team, rather than mostly trying to win them over by promoting their own school and what they have to offer. A couple of other schools also seem to be doing this with KU this year, but not as much as those other 3 have.
Posted by: Kman_blue

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/28/17 02:46 PM

Originally Posted By: kylecof11
Good article on Hull.. Refuse to lose mentality has taken over on the recruiting trail and will sooner rather than later move to the football field on a daily basis.

http://www2.kusports.com/news/2017/jun/27/i-refuse-lose-assistant-tony-hulls-personality-mak/
I've liked the coach Hull hire from the day after he was hired and I was able to watch, listen, and read more from him and about him.
Posted by: EstebanBugatti

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/28/17 03:57 PM

Originally Posted By: Kman_blue
Originally Posted By: 58hawk
247 doesn't list our 5 star so that may be skewed. Meanwhile on Rivals we are at 20. Not losing ground just other programs have added players.
Last time I checked, 247 doesn't really rate recruits themselves, but uses some formula based on the ratings from 3 or 4 other recruiting websites to come up with some kind of average for the player. I believe ESPN currently rates Jason as barely being in their top 250 and that has heavily skewed not only his rating on 247 but also our team rating there in large part.

24/7 does rate recruits. They have the 24/7 ratings and the composite ratings.
Posted by: schmuck34

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/28/17 04:07 PM

Yeah their rating is directly below the composite.
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/28/17 04:25 PM

Kinda disappointed that 247/CBS bought out Scout too.
Posted by: pizzanbeer

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/28/17 04:38 PM

Originally Posted By: Kman_blue
OU has gone hard after quite a few of our offers right after we offered them as well, but they're much more selective about it than Miss. St. is. TTech has also gone hard after a lot of our offers right after we offered them as well.

Those 3 are probably the most obvious schools who've seemed to adopt as a part of their recruiting strategy of trusting our staff's evaluation of a prospect and then offering that recruit and try to negatively recruit against KU. Meaning they try to win a recruit over by being negative about KU's program/team, rather than mostly trying to win them over by promoting their own school and what they have to offer. A couple of other schools also seem to be doing this with KU this year, but not as much as those other 3 have.


OU resorting to picking off KU recruits did not prove to be a good long term strategy for a program that expects to beat Ohio State. Relying on another coaching staff to evaluate players is a stupid, lazy way to recruit. I expect that to change under Riley. It is not working out too well for TT either.
Posted by: Kman_blue

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/28/17 04:52 PM

Well, OU obviously was and is doing their own recruiting and analysis, BUT they were also immediately evaluating guys who we offered and if they past their own analysis then they went after them quickly. With TTech, I agree that they are failing at it for the most part. Their pitch against KU to those recruits apparently isn't working out very well.

Not sure how the coaching change at OU is or will be affecting this strategy of theirs, but we'll see soon enough.

It looks like several coaches and coaching staffs apparently have a high regard to our coach's talent evaluations and that's why we've seen several schools that look to have adopted this strategy of trying to immediately go after guys we've offered. We saw it happen under the later Mangino years too, but not to the degree it's going on now. I think a lot of coaches are quick to recognize other coaches who know how to spot talent and try to cut some corners by relying off of that other coach's work. The good news right now though, is that KU seems to be winning out with quite a few of these recruits still. When we start winning more on the field, I think that'll just continue but at an even higher rate.
Posted by: Kman_blue

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/28/17 05:07 PM

Originally Posted By: EstebanBugatti
24/7 does rate recruits. They have the 24/7 ratings and the composite ratings.
OK, but they use that composite rating based off other recruiting website's ratings to generate their team recruiting rankings, so ESPN's much lower rating of Jason is still heavily affecting his composite rating and KU's team recruiting rank on their website.

Just looked at Jason's rating on 247 again, thanks to your response here, and noticed they too rate him a lot lower than Rivals or Scout do and more in line with ESPN's rating. Not sure how they rate the recruits specifically or what that's based on, but I know at least the Rivals rating was done initially from his videos, but then was updated based upon all of the camp performances he's had and some Rivals guys seeing him perform in person at those camps. Don't know if 247 ever gets to see these recruits perform in person at a camp or a 7 on 7 event or whatever, but I find it hard to understand how there is such a large disparity in his ratings. It would be like on the basketball side if 1 site rates a guy in the top 5 in the country while another has him down near 60 or 70.
Posted by: Kman_blue

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/28/17 05:11 PM

Originally Posted By: dgless21
Kinda disappointed that 247/CBS bought out Scout too.
Me too, there's been a lot of consolidation going on lately and that's reduced the number of independent opinions/ratings of recruits IMHO.

Also, some of the companies doing the buying were a lot worse at it IMO than the companies they've bought were doing and I'm afraid of instead of adopting the better product they'll instead stick with the worse because that's what they know best.
Posted by: 58hawk

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/28/17 07:01 PM

Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
Originally Posted By: kylecof11
Good article on Hull.. Refuse to lose mentality has taken over on the recruiting trail and will sooner rather than later move to the football field on a daily basis.

http://www2.kusports.com/news/2017/jun/27/i-refuse-lose-assistant-tony-hulls-personality-mak/
The guy got a huge raise based on potential recruiting when it ranked in top five for 2018 recruiting. It's at 32 now, shorty. You should just admit it and move on. 32.
Yawn.
Posted by: pizzanbeer

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/28/17 07:06 PM

Originally Posted By: Kman_blue
Well, OU obviously was and is doing their own recruiting and analysis, BUT they were also immediately evaluating guys who we offered and if they past their own analysis then they went after them quickly. With TTech, I agree that they are failing at it for the most part. Their pitch against KU to those recruits apparently isn't working out very well.


The reason it's stupid for OU to do that is because they should be going after a higher level player than KU in the first place if they expect to win a national championship. Can you imagine how lazy the OU coaches are if they wait for KU to get a verbal from a player before they decide to evaluate and offer him? That kind of stupidity and laziness in recruiting does not get you a NC.
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/28/17 10:50 PM

Originally Posted By: Kman_blue
Originally Posted By: kylecof11
Good article on Hull.. Refuse to lose mentality has taken over on the recruiting trail and will sooner rather than later move to the football field on a daily basis.

http://www2.kusports.com/news/2017/jun/27/i-refuse-lose-assistant-tony-hulls-personality-mak/
I've liked the coach Hull hire from the day after he was hired and I was able to watch, listen, and read more from him and about him.
He is hard working and should be rewarded some day for it. Has a lot of HS experience coaching and could be a good college asst coach. Potential is there.
Posted by: pizzanbeer

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/29/17 09:41 AM

Who is going to be the next recruit to commit? I think it will be Ryan Malbrough. Tony Hull doing work again in the boot!
Posted by: Kman_blue

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/29/17 11:01 AM

My best guess would be a coin flip between Ryan Malbrough and a JUCO DL.

I heard they're going after a JUCO DL hard right now. At least that's the gossip I heard.

I'd be happy with either, as long as the JUCO DL is a high quality guy, but I think the coaches really need to close the deal with Marlbrough as I'm not so sure they've got a comparative guy as their plan B right now. I may be way off and they do, but I was told after the Robinson kid came up and visited both KU and ksu, KU told him they couldn't take a commitment from him right now and that's in large part why he committed to ksu.

Speaking of recruiting DL guys in general, I think Khristian Boyd missed the boat with KU. Not exactly sure if he slow played KU or KU slow played him. but I don't think there's a spot left for him now.

Just goes to show what a complex moving landscape recruiting can be sometimes for both schools and recruits.
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/29/17 11:21 AM

I would guess that JUCO DL is Najee Stevens McKenzie.
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/29/17 11:58 AM

Originally Posted By: dgless21
I would guess that JUCO DL is Najee Stevens McKenzie.
Yes, he was part of the vaunted defensive line at ASA College in 2016. Points Allowed/game = 29.1. His best two years are in front of him.
Posted by: pizzanbeer

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/29/17 12:10 PM

Slant has Najee at 215 and that seems light for DE in the Big 12. Would he play LB at KU?
Posted by: kylecof11

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/29/17 01:04 PM

http://www.scout.com/college/football/re...edged-to-kansas

Not exactly the most promising interview. I mean, I get it. I'd look around too if I were that caliber. I do think there is a decent chance that KU keeps him. But I think the chance has fallen a little bit. A lot of it will depend on how the season goes and how the offense looks under Meachem.
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/29/17 01:06 PM

He was offered by Ohio, Akron, and Western Michigan out of high school as an OLB.

I'm not sure where we have him pegged. His frame definitely has room to add weight.
Posted by: Kman_blue

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/29/17 01:19 PM

Originally Posted By: pizzanbeer
Slant has Najee at 215 and that seems light for DE in the Big 12. Would he play LB at KU?
I think he's a little bigger than that, not much, but a little. Also think KU is looking at him as a WDE/Rush End.
Posted by: Kman_blue

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/29/17 01:40 PM

Originally Posted By: kylecof11
http://www.scout.com/college/football/re...edged-to-kansas

Not exactly the most promising interview. I mean, I get it. I'd look around too if I were that caliber. I do think there is a decent chance that KU keeps him. But I think the chance has fallen a little bit. A lot of it will depend on how the season goes and how the offense looks under Meachem.

He's getting tremendous non-stop pressure ever since committing to KU. I think he's enjoying the process and being respectful to the schools still going after him hard. He's 1 of the top football recruits in the country and most all of the top level guys go through this same kind of pressure and somewhat looking around even if committed to a blue blood school. He's getting even more pressure than most, but I still think KU has a very good chance of holding onto him. In part because I believe that he and Harris both want to go to the same school and both are good friends with Mike Lee. I think Jason's mom also really liked what she saw of KU and both her and Jason have very good relationships with coach Hull.

This is major league big boy recruiting though and like I said, even the bluest of the blue blood schools go through this kind of thing with the top tier recruits in the country like Jason and Harris. It's a different kind of recruiting.
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/29/17 02:14 PM

Now they just need to convince Foucha, Joseph, Brule, Chase, and Kenan Jones to jump in too.
Posted by: pizzanbeer

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/29/17 04:12 PM

Originally Posted By: Kman_blue
Speaking of recruiting DL guys in general, I think Khristian Boyd missed the boat with KU. Not exactly sure if he slow played KU or KU slow played him. but I don't think there's a spot left for him now.


I would like to see Beaty add some HS recruits at DT like Boyd and McNeal. Then we could red shirt them and have Woodfin build them up and Williams develop them like Yenser is doing with HS recruits on OL.
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 06/29/17 05:37 PM

I'd like the DT from IMG. (Josh Walker)
Posted by: pizzanbeer

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 07/02/17 12:21 AM

Originally Posted By: dgless21
I'd like the DT from IMG. (Josh Walker)


Walker looks quicker and he has a better offer list but McNeal and Boyd are bigger. OU and KSU are recruiting OL players over 300 so I would like KU to have bigger DTs to match up. Overall KU's recruiting on DL is awesome for this class so far.

Now that we filled most of our DL needs my focus is shifting to OL. Beaty is off to a good start with Williams. The coaching staff got creative adding Baldwin, Hannon and Tovi. Hopefully they blend well with our returning OL and result in more Ws and more recruiting momentum on OL.
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 07/02/17 12:29 AM

Boyd is big, but he's not nearly as skilled as Walker.

McNeal is almost guaranteed to end up in the SEC.
Posted by: pizzanbeer

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 07/03/17 10:24 PM

Originally Posted By: dgless21
Boyd is big, but he's not nearly as skilled as Walker.

McNeal is almost guaranteed to end up in the SEC.


It's great if Walker chooses KU but he has a lot of P5 offers. As far as Boyd's skill Beaty has Woodfin and Williams to work on that during his red shirt year.

Why is McNeal for sure going to the SEC? Rivals lists only 1 SEC offer from Miss State which is his only other P5 offer besides KU.
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 07/04/17 12:08 PM

McNeal also has offers from Ole Miss and Tennessee per his twitter. He has also mentioned his desire to be offered by Bama and Auburn.

In early March after being offered by Tennessee, he said Ole Miss and Miss State were his leaders, and he was hoping to schedule a visit to Tennessee. He's also taken unofficials to Bama and Auburn.

It's not absolutely impossible that he comes to KU, but all signs right now point to him staying in SEC country. Nothing I've seen shows him being all too interested in Kansas.
Posted by: pizzanbeer

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 07/04/17 03:31 PM

Ok that makes sense. I was relying on Rivals which only shows the Miss State offer. It's odd the other SEC offers don't show up on Rivals.
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 07/07/17 01:38 PM

Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
Originally Posted By: kylecof11
Good article on Hull.. Refuse to lose mentality has taken over on the recruiting trail and will sooner rather than later move to the football field on a daily basis.

http://www2.kusports.com/news/2017/jun/27/i-refuse-lose-assistant-tony-hulls-personality-mak/
The guy got a huge raise based on potential recruiting when it ranked in top five for 2018 recruiting. It's at 32 now, shorty. You should just admit it and move on. 32.
Just checked on 07/07/17 and 247 composite team 2018 football recruiting rankings show Kansas at 33.
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 07/07/17 02:25 PM

Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 07/07/17 03:32 PM

Originally Posted By: dgless21
Nothing can hurt the unicorn! It's glitter shooting out all over!!
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 07/07/17 04:56 PM

Posted by: Kman_blue

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 07/10/17 12:40 PM

Hearing there's going to be a few quality recruits coming for visits this coming weekend. Didn't hear names yet though. Just a passing comment from someone.
Posted by: kylecof11

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 07/10/17 01:03 PM

I've heard this as well. A lot of recruits notice that Armstrong, Lee and others came to Kansas and played right away. A lot of that had to do with lack of talent and numbers, but I think Mike Lee has been a big get for this program both on the field and off.
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 07/11/17 04:09 PM

Originally Posted By: EstebanBugatti
Originally Posted By: pizzanbeer
Aaron Brule just backed out of his commitment on twitter. His twitter comments leading up to that mentioned his upcoming visits to Georgia and Texas so this was not a surprise. I am glad he made this decision now so the coaches have plenty of time to find his replacement.

Brule was gone the second Chase left. Not sure why he waited this long to announce it.
3 star safety Aaron Brule from Louisiana is 1 of 3 former commits from Louisiana to Kansas to de-commit lately. Can we reduce the Hull congratulatory raise by 50%? He had 6 Louisiana commits earlier...
Posted by: EstebanBugatti

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 07/11/17 04:09 PM

Any names yet?
Posted by: 58hawk

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 07/11/17 06:52 PM

Still hanging around 25th per Rivals.
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 07/12/17 04:58 PM

Originally Posted By: 58hawk
Still hanging around 25th per Rivals.
I will be damn happy if we wind up under 50 for 2018 recruiting when it's all said and done.
Posted by: 58hawk

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 07/12/17 05:17 PM

Yes considering eight losing seasons in a row.
Posted by: Kman_blue

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 07/13/17 12:24 AM

Originally Posted By: EstebanBugatti
Any names yet?
Haven't talked to anyone since that comment, but thought I heard 1 was from Florida. Doesn't exactly narrow things down much though!
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 07/13/17 01:44 PM

Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
Originally Posted By: kylecof11
Good article on Hull.. Refuse to lose mentality has taken over on the recruiting trail and will sooner rather than later move to the football field on a daily basis.

http://www2.kusports.com/news/2017/jun/27/i-refuse-lose-assistant-tony-hulls-personality-mak/
The guy got a huge raise based on potential recruiting when it ranked in top five for 2018 recruiting. It's at 32 now, shorty. You should just admit it and move on. 32.
Just checked on 07/07/17 and 247 composite team 2018 football recruiting rankings show Kansas at 33.
As of today, at 35 !Unicorn is dying!
Posted by: kylecof11

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 07/13/17 02:36 PM

Fake News.

Last updated at 2:19pm CT indicates the ranking is still 33. 6th in the Big 12.
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 07/13/17 02:59 PM

Originally Posted By: kylecof11
Fake News.

Last updated at 2:19pm CT indicates the ranking is still 33. 6th in the Big 12.
http://247sports.com/Season/2018-Football/TeamRankings

It's a downer! 35
Posted by: Kman_blue

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 07/13/17 03:07 PM

Looking at the daily recruiting class rankings is about as smart as looking at daily stock market ups and downs as a long term investor.
Posted by: Kman_blue

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 07/13/17 03:35 PM

Originally Posted By: EstebanBugatti
Any names yet?
Still haven't really talked to anyone, but heard there'll be more coming next weekend in part for the Friday Night Lights event. Expect a big turnout then and some guys from TX and LA coming.
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 07/13/17 05:38 PM

Originally Posted By: Kman_blue
Looking at the daily recruiting class rankings is about as smart as looking at daily stock market ups and downs as a long term investor.
Yep a marathon where we started 2nd and now trending down to 35. Not a daily thing for me either...
Posted by: 58hawk

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 07/13/17 10:24 PM

Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
Originally Posted By: Kman_blue
Looking at the daily recruiting class rankings is about as smart as looking at daily stock market ups and downs as a long term investor.
Yep a marathon where we started 2nd and now trending down to 35. Not a daily thing for me either...
Still 25 per rivals. K-state shocked me because they were 95.
Posted by: Kman_blue

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 07/14/17 01:14 AM

Originally Posted By: 58hawk
Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
Originally Posted By: Kman_blue
Looking at the daily recruiting class rankings is about as smart as looking at daily stock market ups and downs as a long term investor.
Yep a marathon where we started 2nd and now trending down to 35. Not a daily thing for me either...
Still 25 per rivals. K-state shocked me because they were 95.
Still #33 on 247 despite splatter basket's claim it's #35.
Posted by: Kman_blue

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 07/14/17 01:50 AM

Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
Originally Posted By: Kman_blue
Looking at the daily recruiting class rankings is about as smart as looking at daily stock market ups and downs as a long term investor.
Yep a marathon where we started 2nd and now trending down to 35. Not a daily thing for me either...
We didn't start at #2 on any of the recruiting sites. We're not #35 on either 247 or Rivals right now either. Simple facts still elude you.

Nice marathon where you pick an arbitrary starting time at an arbitrary point on an arbitrary race course and then pick arbitrary points at some arbitrary time to declare how you're doing.

Oh, and you usually are in the middle of the pack from start to finish but this year you ran with the top 5-10 runners for a while before slipping back into the top 1/4 of the pack, still running better than you have in decades despite your arbitrary measuring points/times picked solely to try and crap all over your performance.

Yeah, nice marathon you got there.

Also, for someone who claims not to be checking the rankings daily you consistently keep bringing them up on a regular basis. Kinda like someone who checks them on a daily basis would.
Posted by: Kman_blue

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 07/14/17 02:07 AM

Also, as you seem to be so "worried" about KU's recruiting rankings trend, you at least take some solace in the fact that KU's trend is better than Alabama's over that same time period, right? I mean, they're a "solid program" according to you, right?

They went from a recruiting ranking of #15 to #52 in the same time that KU's rank went from #2 to #25 on Rivals. Believe they started out at #4 though, while KU started out at #9 so if you look at it from the beginning they fell even more while KU fell a lot less.

By your logical, KU recruiting > Alabama recruiting.

Sure looks like a BIG positive for KU and coach Beaty in the recruiting department according to you and your reasoning. You and you're rainbow sh!tting unicorns!
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 07/14/17 07:42 AM

Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
Originally Posted By: kylecof11
Fake News.

Last updated at 2:19pm CT indicates the ranking is still 33. 6th in the Big 12.
http://247sports.com/Season/2018-Football/TeamRankings

It's a downer! 35
It IS 35, unicorn (K man, not kyle...) 3 followed by 5 = 35. 33 Louisville, 34 Cincinnati, 35 Kansas...

Now I remember you adjusting the numbers manually to be #2, so...also, I still think we would be fine if we stay under #50 in all of the various recruiting rankings in Jan, 2018, at the end of the marathon (including your adjusted rankings). Nothing wrong with that. This is the year to make inroads into the potential coaching qualities of our HC.
Posted by: kylecof11

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 07/14/17 08:03 AM

I still see 33, but that's beside the point. KU is 6th in Big 12, with still 12 spots to fill in 2018 class. KU can easily slide up the rankings if they keep recruiting high quality guys, which we have seen before that they can and will continue to do just that.
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 07/14/17 08:08 AM

He's looking at the 247 number in the grey box under the ranking you're looking at because it better supports his childish agenda.

33rd 247 composite, 35th 247 standalone rankings.
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 07/14/17 09:23 AM

Originally Posted By: Hot_Toddy
I'm not sure on his scholarship status but this kid just arrived on campus. He originally signed with North Carolina out of high school - Class of 2016.

James Pierre - Safety


Seems like he ended up at FAU with him tweeting out a Florida Atlantic student ID...

https://twitter.com/TuneLight1/status/881213818591948800
Posted by: schmuck34

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 07/14/17 03:59 PM

So where did that rumor come from to begin with? I couldn't find a thing about him even looking at KU asked him directly (to which he had no response).
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 07/14/17 04:07 PM

Hot_Toddy was the first I'd heard of it, but he's normally got a decent source. It took off from there.
Posted by: Kman_blue

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 07/14/17 04:46 PM

Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
It IS 35, unicorn (K man, not kyle...) 3 followed by 5 = 35. 33 Louisville, 34 Cincinnati, 35 Kansas...

Now I remember you adjusting the numbers manually to be #2, so...also, I still think we would be fine if we stay under #50 in all of the various recruiting rankings in Jan, 2018, at the end of the marathon (including your adjusted rankings). Nothing wrong with that. This is the year to make inroads into the potential coaching qualities of our HC.
LOL

It's #33 still. Put on your reading glasses and open those eyes.




I never adjusted any numbers. I never said KU started at #2. KU peaked at #2 and you arbitrarily latched on to that as the starting point for your marathon. KU didn't peak that high on 247 though, but now that's your go to ranking for today solely because it's lower than Rival's ranking in your moronathon of crap.

Splatter basket hard at it still I see.
Posted by: Kman_blue

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 07/14/17 05:06 PM

In case anyone was wondering what a splatter basket is (it's a regional slang term), here's one.

Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 07/14/17 05:09 PM

Originally Posted By: Kman_blue
Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
It IS 35, unicorn (K man, not kyle...) 3 followed by 5 = 35. 33 Louisville, 34 Cincinnati, 35 Kansas...

Now I remember you adjusting the numbers manually to be #2, so...also, I still think we would be fine if we stay under #50 in all of the various recruiting rankings in Jan, 2018, at the end of the marathon (including your adjusted rankings). Nothing wrong with that. This is the year to make inroads into the potential coaching qualities of our HC.
LOL

It's #33 still. Put on your reading glasses and open those eyes.



I never adjusted any numbers. I never said KU started at #2. KU peaked at #2 and you arbitrarily latched on to that as the starting point for your marathon. KU didn't peak that high on 247 though, but now that's your go to ranking for today solely because it's lower than Rival's ranking in your moronathon of crap.

Splatter basket hard at it still I see.
And I was NOT doing that poll unicorn, 247 (cited it multiple times). Pretty sure kman backwards is splatter basket...and it's still 35.

You sure you never said KU was at #2? Swore I read it here. Pinky swear?
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 07/14/17 05:11 PM

Originally Posted By: Kman_blue
In case anyone was wondering what a splatter basket is backwards(it's a regional slang term), here's one.

Kman!!

It's not all bad being backward, right?
Posted by: Kman_blue

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 07/14/17 05:29 PM

Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
And I was NOT doing that poll unicorn, 247 (cited it multiple times). Pretty sure kman backwards is splatter basket...and it's still 35.
What poll are you talking about now? Rivals back when KU ranked #2 or Rivals back when KU got its first ranking of #9 or 247's initial ranking of KU or the current 247 ranking or the current Rivals ranking or is it the non-composite 247 rank (i.e. the one 247 hasn't put there own adjustment on)? Which grape style reasoning cherry picking point poll are you talking about now?

And because you still can't read, here's a little bit bigger image of 247's current ranking for KU and there's even a bright red box around it.

Posted by: Kman_blue

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 07/14/17 05:31 PM

Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
Originally Posted By: Kman_blue
In case anyone was wondering what a splatter basket is backwards(it's a regional slang term), here's one.

Kman!!

It's not all bad being backward, right?
Good grief, have you reverted to your toddler days now?

Maybe instead of a splatter bucket this pic illustrates you better seeing as you're a buff.

Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 07/14/17 11:56 PM

I remember the days 247 did not mean shiver. Oh wait, that's today. Two different polls. I cited 247 and put a FYI out there. You disappoint me.

Native Lawrence, raised, graduated, and love ❤️ my school. Can DB coach? Not as certain of that unicorn...
Posted by: Kman_blue

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 07/15/17 01:13 AM

Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
I remember the days 247 did not mean shiver. Oh wait, that's today. Two different polls. I cited 247 and put a FYI out there. You disappoint me.


Wrong again!

Again, since you have trouble seeing things, here's the URL of the website the pic is of: http://kansas.247sports.com/Season/2018-Football/Commits

CBS sports bought 247 in December of 2015 and CBS absorbed The Shiver some time ago, so they are now and have been for quite a while one and the same. It's the same damned poll.

TheShiver.com is simply the Kansas porthole for 247 Sports now. You probably missed that because you're a buff or ram or whatever.

You can read about CBS's acquisition of 247 Sports on 247 Sport's own website here: http://247sports.com/Bolt/CBS-Sports-Digital-agrees-to-acquire-247Sports-42072361


You dissap...nah, not really this is just what's expected of you.
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 07/15/17 06:07 AM

Originally Posted By: Kman_blue
Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
It IS 35, unicorn (K man, not kyle...) 3 followed by 5 = 35. 33 Louisville, 34 Cincinnati, 35 Kansas...

Now I remember you adjusting the numbers manually to be #2, so...also, I still think we would be fine if we stay under #50 in all of the various recruiting rankings in Jan, 2018, at the end of the marathon (including your adjusted rankings). Nothing wrong with that. This is the year to make inroads into the potential coaching qualities of our HC.
LOL

It's #33 still. Put on your reading glasses and open those eyes.


I never adjusted any numbers. I never said KU started at #2. KU peaked at #2 and you arbitrarily latched on to that as the starting point for your marathon. KU didn't peak that high on 247 though, but now that's your go to ranking for today solely because it's lower than Rival's ranking in your...
The link I provided via 247 SAYS 35 kman. Yes CBS bought Shiver as well. I agree with that point. If I say 35 based upon one poll and you say 33 based upon another poll, everyone here (I assume) understands Rival poll, Shiver, 247, and so on are the opinions of DIFFERENT pollsters. You are deliberately obtuse and I have no other way to describe the differences. Have a nice day. We are trending downward is my main point.
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 07/15/17 06:45 AM

247 and The Shiver aren't different pollsters.

That's like saying JayhawkSlant and Rivals are different or Scout and Phog.net are different.

We're trending downward because your small sample trend intentionally picked an arbitrary starting date that was the highest the program had ever been. Literally everyone here knew we wouldn't finish ranked that high.
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 07/15/17 07:58 AM

They are the same as Taurus & F150. Both are Fords. Got it.
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 07/15/17 08:05 AM

Originally Posted By: dgless21
247 and The Shiver aren't different pollsters.

That's like saying JayhawkSlant and Rivals are different or Scout and Phog.net are different.

We're trending downward because your small sample trend intentionally picked an arbitrary starting date that was the highest the program had ever been. Literally everyone here knew we wouldn't finish ranked that high.
Unicorns started praising Kansas recruiting at the #2 level. Everyone seemingly got raises or contract extensions based on the mythical rankings. So now I come along to ruin the darn thing with some doses of reality.
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 07/15/17 08:21 AM

Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
They are the same as Taurus & F150. Both are Fords. Got it.


In this stupid metaphor, 247 would be Ford. Shiver would be a Taurus or an F-150.

The Shiver doesn't do its own rankings.
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 07/15/17 08:27 AM

Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
Originally Posted By: dgless21
247 and The Shiver aren't different pollsters.

That's like saying JayhawkSlant and Rivals are different or Scout and Phog.net are different.

We're trending downward because your small sample trend intentionally picked an arbitrary starting date that was the highest the program had ever been. Literally everyone here knew we wouldn't finish ranked that high.
Unicorns started praising Kansas recruiting at the #2 level. Everyone seemingly got raises or contract extensions based on the mythical rankings. So now I come along to ruin the darn thing with some doses of reality.


Beaty and much of the staff got contract extensions in December before they got a single 2018 commit, but you keep bringing your doses of revisionist reality.

You're not ruining it as much as making a stupid point. We weren't celebrating it because we were #2. We were celebrating adding quality players that KU had never gotten before. The same people praising the commits then still praise them now because they know KU has NEVER gotten players like Devonta, Pooka, Corione, etc with Bama, LSU, UT, OU, etc offers.
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 07/15/17 10:15 AM

Coach Hull gets a huge raise and we fans see only three remaining Louisiana HS commits out of six original commits for 2018. Can we get back 50% of that?

True, Coach Beaty increases were due to beating one legitimate opponent in two seasons. Out of 24 contests. It's a sweet deal for him, I can't fault him for agreeing to stay. But I do fault him for not turning the dumpster fire off quicker.
Posted by: 58hawk

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 07/15/17 10:21 AM

Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
Coach Hull gets a huge raise and we fans see only three remaining Louisiana HS commits out of six original commits for 2018. Can we get back 50% of that?

True, Coach Beaty increases were due to beating one legitimate opponent in two seasons. Out of 24 contests. It's a sweet deal for him, I can't fault him for agreeing to stay. But I do fault him for not turning the dumpster fire off quicker.
Would you still complain if it was a different head coach? My bet is you wouldn't.
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 07/15/17 10:28 AM

I will take that bet. My complaint about the current HC hiring is that we had a really big hole to climb out of after Weis. His qualifications? Nice guy who has coached too many years in HS in order to be in charge of a P5 conference program. Sure I would complain if Gameball was still around as well. Plenty of other, more experienced, qualified candidates out there. I've put a few names out there and so I won't bore you with a recap...
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 07/15/17 11:24 AM

So one coach got a raise for our recruiting and that's "everyone"...?

How does one "turn off" a dumpster fire? Is there a power button?
Posted by: Kman_blue

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 07/15/17 11:41 AM

Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
The link I provided via 247 SAYS 35 kman. Yes CBS bought Shiver as well. I agree with that point. If I say 35 based upon one poll and you say 33 based upon another poll, everyone here (I assume) understands Rival poll, Shiver, 247, and so on are the opinions of DIFFERENT pollsters. You are deliberately obtuse and I have no other way to describe the differences. Have a nice day. We are trending downward is my main point.
As has already been pointed out to you, it's the same poll done by the same people. I thought you trusted the 247 people? You've brought up their crystal ball predictions before. You've brought up their player rankings before. Both of which are the 247 adjusted values/opinions, but now you don't trust 247's poll because KU is 2 spots higher than the non-247adjusted rank?

This kind of deliberate inconsistency, arbitrary time frame selection, and arbitrary intellectually dishonest selection of different polls for different ranks to exaggerate your doom and gloom scenario is grape reasoning 101. You look a lot like timmycats here. You his sock?


Also, don't know where in the hell you thought KU was going to trend if you start with KU ranked #2 in the country according to the Rivals rank.
Posted by: Kman_blue

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 07/15/17 11:53 AM

Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
Unicorns started praising Kansas recruiting at the #2 level. Everyone seemingly got raises or contract extensions based on the mythical rankings. So now I come along to ruin the darn thing with some doses of reality.
Haha!

What "doses of reality" are you talking about now? Your chicken little routine? Your hatred of coach Beaty? Your deliberate attack on anything and everything KU football since Beaty got hired?

Oh, and us KU football fans, i.e. unicorns to you, are and were excited about how extremely well our 2018 recruiting is going. Something you buffs or rams or whatever the hell you really are, aren't.
Posted by: track

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 07/15/17 01:08 PM

Originally Posted By: Kman_blue
Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
Unicorns started praising Kansas recruiting at the #2 level. Everyone seemingly got raises or contract extensions based on the mythical rankings. So now I come along to ruin the darn thing with some doses of reality.
Haha!

What "doses of reality" are you talking about now? Your chicken little routine? Your hatred of coach Beaty? Your deliberate attack on anything and everything KU football since Beaty got hired?

Oh, and us KU football fans, i.e. unicorns to you, are and were excited about how extremely well our 2018 recruiting is going. Something you buffs or rams or whatever the hell you really are, aren't.

Good to see our resident fake fan being called out for what he is.
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 07/15/17 01:50 PM

Originally Posted By: dgless21
So one coach got a raise for our recruiting and that's "everyone"...?

How does one "turn off" a dumpster fire? Is there a power button?
everyone seemingly is what I said...big diff
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 07/15/17 01:52 PM

Originally Posted By: Kman_blue
Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
Unicorns started praising Kansas recruiting at the #2 level. Everyone seemingly got raises or contract extensions based on the mythical rankings. So now I come along to ruin the darn thing with some doses of reality.
Haha!

What "doses of reality" are you talking about now? Your chicken little routine? Your hatred of coach Beaty? Your deliberate attack on anything and everything KU football since Beaty got hired?

Oh, and us KU football fans, i.e. unicorns to you, are and were excited about how extremely well our 2018 recruiting is going. Something you buffs or rams or whatever the hell you really are, aren't.
Sorry to disappoint but a true blue Jayhawks fan and alumni
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 07/15/17 02:01 PM

Originally Posted By: track
Originally Posted By: Kman_blue
Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
Unicorns started praising Kansas recruiting at the #2 level. Everyone seemingly got raises or contract extensions based on the mythical rankings. So now I come along to ruin the darn thing with some doses of reality.
Haha!

What "doses of reality" are you talking about now? Your chicken little routine? Your hatred of coach Beaty? Your deliberate attack on anything and everything KU football since Beaty got hired?

Oh, and us KU football fans, i.e. unicorns to you, are and were excited about how extremely well our 2018 recruiting is going. Something you buffs or rams or whatever the hell you really are, aren't.

Good to see our resident fake fan being called out for what he is.
So you think I am a fake fan. Makes your argument weak, tacky. No hatred for Beaty, I think he is a really smart "fake coach".
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 07/15/17 02:35 PM

Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
Originally Posted By: dgless21
So one coach got a raise for our recruiting and that's "everyone"...?

How does one "turn off" a dumpster fire? Is there a power button?
everyone seemingly is what I said...big diff


So by "everyone" you meant one coach?
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 07/15/17 03:44 PM

http://247sports.com/player/gerome-henry-46042964

This dude committed. 2019.

https://mobile.twitter.com/ThayerMadeRome/status/885951625394827264
Posted by: 58hawk

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 07/15/17 04:08 PM

Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
I will take that bet. My complaint about the current HC hiring is that we had a really big hole to climb out of after Weis. His qualifications? Nice guy who has coached too many years in HS in order to be in charge of a P5 conference program. Sure I would complain if Gameball was still around as well. Plenty of other, more experienced, qualified candidates out there. I've put a few names out there and so I won't bore you with a recap...
I can tell you that any of your "turnaround specialists" wouldn't be any better in what we have coming in.
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 07/15/17 07:15 PM

Originally Posted By: dgless21
Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
Originally Posted By: dgless21
So one coach got a raise for our recruiting and that's "everyone"...?

How does one "turn off" a dumpster fire? Is there a power button?
everyone seemingly is what I said...big diff


So by "everyone" you meant one coach?
No. it seemed like everyone had received a raise. Hull is the main recruiting "monster" and Beaty got a one game atta boy raise. The issues remain for Kansas - long losing streak on the road, etc . Half the Louisiana kids are not coming to Lawrence. Let's see if wonderboy can coach em up in 2017.
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 07/15/17 07:18 PM

Originally Posted By: 58hawk
Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
I will take that bet. My complaint about the current HC hiring is that we had a really big hole to climb out of after Weis. His qualifications? Nice guy who has coached too many years in HS in order to be in charge of a P5 conference program. Sure I would complain if Gameball was still around as well. Plenty of other, more experienced, qualified candidates out there. I've put a few names out there and so I won't bore you with a recap...
I can tell you that any of your "turnaround specialists" wouldn't be any better in what we have coming in.
Potential is a wonderful thing until it's no longer believed
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 07/15/17 09:23 PM

Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
No. it seemed like...


But in reality, only one possibly got a raise for recruiting...soooooo you're dumb.
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 07/15/17 09:32 PM

Originally Posted By: dgless21
Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
No. it seemed like...


But in reality, only one possibly got a raise for recruiting...soooooo you're dumb.
your sooooo Asshat

Hull got a huuuge raise. Significant delusional reward...
Posted by: Kman_blue

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 07/15/17 09:50 PM

He didn't get the raise just because of those early commitments. He got the raise for his work ethic. His coaching ability. His prior year's recruiting in addition to his early recruiting success for the 2018 class. His coaching/recruiting ties in the recruiting hotbed of Louisiana. Also, in part because some other big time schools started sniffing around inquiring about him. KU took proactive action to keep him around for as long as possible with a new contract and a promotion for all of those reasons.
Posted by: Kman_blue

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 07/15/17 09:52 PM

Side note to 1 of my earlier posts about visitors, heard the one from Florida didn't make it up here. He may be up next weekend though.
Posted by: 58hawk

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 07/15/17 10:15 PM

Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
Originally Posted By: 58hawk
Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
I will take that bet. My complaint about the current HC hiring is that we had a really big hole to climb out of after Weis. His qualifications? Nice guy who has coached too many years in HS in order to be in charge of a P5 conference program. Sure I would complain if Gameball was still around as well. Plenty of other, more experienced, qualified candidates out there. I've put a few names out there and so I won't bore you with a recap...
I can tell you that any of your "turnaround specialists" wouldn't be any better in what we have coming in.
Potential is a wonderful thing until it's no longer believed
Nothing "potential" with DB. He has already out-recruited even Mangino.
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 07/15/17 10:38 PM

Originally Posted By: 58hawk
Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
Originally Posted By: 58hawk
Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
I will take that bet. My complaint about the current HC hiring is that we had a really big hole to climb out of after Weis. His qualifications? Nice guy who has coached too many years in HS in order to be in charge of a P5 conference program. Sure I would complain if Gameball was still around as well. Plenty of other, more experienced, qualified candidates out there. I've put a few names out there and so I won't bore you with a recap...
I can tell you that any of your "turnaround specialists" wouldn't be any better in what we have coming in.
Potential is a wonderful thing until it's no longer believed
Nothing "potential" with DB. He has already out-recruited even Mangino.
Seriously, 2-22 better have some potential...
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 07/15/17 10:50 PM

Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
Originally Posted By: dgless21
Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
No. it seemed like...


But in reality, only one possibly got a raise for recruiting...soooooo you're dumb.
your sooooo


You're*

Journalism, huh?
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 07/15/17 10:53 PM

Originally Posted By: Kman_blue
He didn't get the raise just because of those early commitments. He got the raise for his work ethic. His coaching ability. His prior year's recruiting in addition to his early recruiting success for the 2018 class. His coaching/recruiting ties in the recruiting hotbed of Louisiana. Also, in part because some other big time schools started sniffing around inquiring about him. KU took proactive action to keep him around for as long as possible with a new contract and a promotion for all of those reasons.


+1
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 07/16/17 04:38 AM

Originally Posted By: dgless21
Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
Originally Posted By: dgless21
Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
No. it seemed like...


But in reality, only one possibly got a raise for recruiting...soooooo you're dumb.
your sooooo


You're*

Journalism, huh?

You can get away posting "soooooo" on a message board, but I can't have fun posting "your"? I tossed it underhanded to the batter in batting practice...you swung for the fence.
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 07/16/17 04:42 AM

Originally Posted By: dgless21
Originally Posted By: Kman_blue
He didn't get the raise just because of those early commitments. He got the raise for his work ethic. His coaching ability. His prior year's recruiting in addition to his early recruiting success for the 2018 class. His coaching/recruiting ties in the recruiting hotbed of Louisiana. Also, in part because some other big time schools started sniffing around inquiring about him. KU took proactive action to keep him around for as long as possible with a new contract and a promotion for all of those reasons.


+1

Well written post by the support staff for Zenger. Both of you deserve a raise from him also. And contract extensions.
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 07/16/17 09:22 AM

I'll see what he can do the next time I talk to him.
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 07/16/17 09:57 AM

Originally Posted By: dgless21
I'll see what he can do the next time I talk to him.
Just remember to tell him Tulane and North Texas are sniffing around after you, Zenger will be giving YOU that raise and extension. You can thank me later.

And tell him that last year's posts that resulted in a 2-10 season is a HELLAVA lot better than the previous sorry year.
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 07/16/17 10:12 AM

We usually stick to talking about CSU and Bobo.
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 07/16/17 10:22 AM

Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC

Tell Zenger this for me.

That is the official mascot of either CU or CSU. Not sure or care...
Posted by: vmlb

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 07/16/17 03:08 PM

Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
Originally Posted By: dgless21
I'll see what he can do the next time I talk to him.
Just remember to tell him Tulane and North Texas are sniffing around after you, Zenger will be giving YOU that raise and extension. You can thank me later.

And tell him that last year's posts that resulted in a 2-10 season is a HELLAVA lot better than the previous sorry year.


He's doing a lot better job representing his client, then you have with your client. Has Charlie even sniffed another job? You can't even get him a HS job.
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 07/16/17 07:23 PM

Zenger gives out money like Halloween candy. CW was already retired when he signed him up.
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 07/16/17 09:47 PM

Aaron Brule top 5

KU, TCU, UGa, Miss State, Texas

No CSU.
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 07/17/17 03:00 AM

Originally Posted By: dgless21
Aaron Brule top 5

KU, TCU, UGa, Miss State, Texas

No CSU.
Brule de-committed from KU recently. He twittered "respect my decision". Doesn't sound like we are "top 5". He is a young man who is growing up quickly. 3 star Louisiana HS safety. Can we get some Hull moola back?
Posted by: schmuck34

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 07/17/17 03:18 AM

Ikenna Enechukwu
Strongside defensive end
Ruskin
Kansas City, MO
Ht: 6'4"
Wt: 240 lbs
Class: 2018
Visiting this weekend
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 07/17/17 08:18 AM

Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
Doesn't sound like we are "top 5".


https://twitter.com/_AllOutAaron_/status/886729928502370304

Revisionist reality again, eh?
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 07/17/17 08:47 AM

PC to say top 5. Actually he meant top 125.
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 07/17/17 08:55 AM

Link?
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 07/17/17 01:48 PM

Originally Posted By: dgless21
Link?
To what? Brule de-committed from Kansas and said "respect my decision". Clear enough for me and all others on here.
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 07/17/17 01:58 PM

He put us in his top five. I provided a link.

If you're going to insist on saying stupid [censored] like "he meant top 125," I'd like a link to see where your information comes from.
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 07/17/17 02:18 PM

Originally Posted By: dgless21
He put us in his top five. I provided a link.

If you're going to insist on saying stupid [censored] like "he meant top 125," I'd like a link to see where your information comes from.
"he meant" doesn't mean it's a linked source, your tiny mind can't comprehend. 125 is approx. the number of teams in "his top 5". Could be any school OTHER than us. Yes, possibly us too. He de-committed means "no like a Lawrence".
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 07/17/17 02:25 PM

I have no idea what that ^ rambling means.

I do know he put us in his top 5 though.
Posted by: kylecof11

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 07/17/17 02:52 PM

Originally Posted By: dgless21
I have no idea what that ^ rambling means.

I do know he put us in his top 5 though.


Which is a factual statement since, you know, it is straight from him.
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 07/17/17 04:15 PM

I'm not holding my breath. He ain't coming.
Posted by: Goober

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 07/17/17 11:07 PM

Originally Posted By: Kman_blue
Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
The link I provided via 247 SAYS 35 kman. Yes CBS bought Shiver as well. I agree with that point. If I say 35 based upon one poll and you say 33 based upon another poll, everyone here (I assume) understands Rival poll, Shiver, 247, and so on are the opinions of DIFFERENT pollsters. You are deliberately obtuse and I have no other way to describe the differences. Have a nice day. We are trending downward is my main point.
As has already been pointed out to you, it's the same poll done by the same people. I thought you trusted the 247 people? You've brought up their crystal ball predictions before. You've brought up their player rankings before. Both of which are the 247 adjusted values/opinions, but now you don't trust 247's poll because KU is 2 spots higher than the non-247adjusted rank?

This kind of deliberate inconsistency, arbitrary time frame selection, and arbitrary intellectually dishonest selection of different polls for different ranks to exaggerate your doom and gloom scenario is grape reasoning 101. You look a lot like timmycats here. You his sock?


Also, don't know where in the hell you thought KU was going to trend if you start with KU ranked #2 in the country according to the Rivals rank.


You just went smooth over her head. She's scratching her head with a whut? Huh?
Gonna have to bring it down a few notches.
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 07/18/17 05:58 AM

Originally Posted By: Goober
Originally Posted By: Kman_blue
Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
The link I provided via 247 SAYS 35 kman. Yes CBS bought Shiver as well. I agree with that point. If I say 35 based upon one poll and you say 33 based upon another poll, everyone here (I assume) understands Rival poll, Shiver, 247, and so on are the opinions of DIFFERENT pollsters. You are deliberately obtuse and I have no other way to describe the differences. Have a nice day. We are trending downward is my main point.
As has already been pointed out to you, it's the same poll done by the same people. I thought you trusted the 247 people? You've brought up their crystal ball predictions before. You've brought up their player rankings before. Both of which are the 247 adjusted values/opinions, but now you don't trust 247's poll because KU is 2 spots higher than the non-247adjusted rank?

This kind of deliberate inconsistency, arbitrary time frame selection, and arbitrary intellectually dishonest selection of different polls for different ranks to exaggerate your doom and gloom scenario is grape reasoning 101. You look a lot like timmycats here. You his sock?


Also, don't know where in the hell you thought KU was going to trend if you start with KU ranked #2 in the country according to the Rivals rank.


You just went smooth over her head. She's scratching her head with a whut? Huh?
Gonna have to bring it down a few notches.
When I looked up "247 team rankings" on the internet it then showed Kansas at 35, and another number below it said 33 in a gray box. I've been looking at the 35 location fairly consistently because it's the ordering arrangement on the page mainly. Nothing hard to comprehend here. Goobles is never a positive contributor here so I usually ignore his insults. I don't check the rankings daily as has been suggested here, but it certainly has slid downward showing a trend from the #2 time frame to the #35 time frame. That would a period of months now in 2017. It was expected, and it happened. Alabama tackle transfer is suspended, and three Louisiana recruits de-committed for 2018 (out of six total) already. If we win some games someday, we can get a better level of stability going here. I can't wait. Meaning, I can't wait for Professor Beaty to show us to the Promised Land.
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 07/18/17 08:55 AM

Yesterday you posted:

Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
as I always say, wait for them to show up on the field and in class.


But yet, in this thread you're making a big deal about an arbitrary February ranking for guys that haven't signed, shown up on the field, or gone to class. It would seem that's slightly hypocritical.

So which is it? Wait until they show up? Or comment every single time our very premature recruiting ranking changes?

Also, Baldwin being suspended is currently nothing more than a rumor. On Phog, the internet rumor is that, when Beaty talked during media days, he still expects Baldwin to contribute on the OL early and often.
Posted by: Kman_blue

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 07/18/17 11:40 AM

Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
I don't check the rankings daily as has been suggested here, but it certainly has slid downward showing a trend from the #2 time frame to the #35 time frame.
Basic grape reasoning using 2 completely different polls' numbers to exaggerate the difference in a negative way. If you had 1 ounce of integrity you'd at least use numbers from the same poll.

Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
...three Louisiana recruits de-committed for 2018 (out of six total) already.
To be accurate we've had 7 commits in the 2018 class from Louisiana recruits and now have 4 left.

Also, while I agree it's rare when a guy decommits for him to re-commit later on to the same school, it does happen sometimes, and KU is definitely still in the mix for 2 of our decommits and possibly all 3.
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 07/19/17 07:01 AM

Originally Posted By: Kman_blue
Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
I don't check the rankings daily as has been suggested here, but it certainly has slid downward showing a trend from the #2 time frame to the #35 time frame.
Basic grape reasoning using 2 completely different polls' numbers to exaggerate the difference in a negative way. If you had 1 ounce of integrity you'd at least use numbers from the same poll.

Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
...three Louisiana recruits de-committed for 2018 (out of six total) already.
To be accurate we've had 7 commits in the 2018 class from Louisiana recruits and now have 4 left.

Also, while I agree it's rare when a guy decommits for him to re-commit later on to the same school, it does happen sometimes, and KU is definitely still in the mix for 2 of our decommits and possibly all 3.
Since when does "time frame" equal same poll? You are the poster exaggerating my intent here. We have slid from the #2 area to the #33-5 area in various rankings when I last checked a ranking. Happened to be a 247 poll ranking. You and Dgless were giving out the impression at the #2 time frame that our Fearless Leader (DB) was getting great recruiting w/o winning two meaningful games in the first two seasons. It's classic "cart before the horse". Didn't Charlie at ND teach you anything (if your coaching is suspect, the HC will be fired)? If no wins soon of a meaningful nature, the current HC will be the previous HC eventually IMO of course..

Louisiana recruits are learning a valuable lesson by having to endure the humiliation of de-committing after eagerly grabbing Kansas offers while playing HS football with their friends. But the main problem I have is, our AD is also acting the part of eager HS schoolboy by shoveling money at our staff (mainly Hull) for getting the attention of the kids in Louisiana. Get some results on the field first, Zinger (let's hope it's soon!), then give raises.
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 07/19/17 08:31 AM

Just curious, is #33 in the nation after going 2-22 not a great recruiting class?

I don't know or care what your rambling about Charlie Weis has to do with anything related to KU's current recruiting or coach.

You're posting your opinion as fact again. You're flat out making up BS about the decommitted players' humiliation. Not factual, not close to factual. Personally, I think that's just a flat out stupid comment. Two of the three are still considering KU (Chase and Brule). One decommitted to play for his dream school and showed no signs of disdain toward KU or any humiliation (Jenkins).

Hull got $250k after being near the bottom of the Big 12 in salary and proving with Lee, Octavius, Jordan, Takulve, Clark, Starks, etc that he can fill the role of recruiting coordinator. He's making a salary that is competitive with other recruiting coordinators.
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 07/19/17 09:53 AM

Also, I never saw KU get above 4th on 247, so I'm curious where we're getting the arbitrary starting point of 2nd. Is there a link for this somewhere?

I feel like this is another revision by KUCO to obfuscate the facts.
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 07/19/17 11:51 AM

Originally Posted By: dgless21
Also, I never saw KU get above 4th on 247, so I'm curious where we're getting the arbitrary starting point of 2nd. Is there a link for this somewhere?

I feel like this is another revision by KUCO to obfuscate the facts.
Kman adjusted poll figure was #2 and he admits it. Now, you on the other hand...
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 07/19/17 11:57 AM

Originally Posted By: dgless21
Just curious, is #33 in the nation after going 2-22 not a great recruiting class?

You're posting your opinion as fact again. You're flat out making up BS about the decommitted players' humiliation. Not factual, not close to factual. Personally, I think that's just a flat out stupid comment. Two of the three are still considering KU (Chase and Brule). One decommitted to play for his dream school and showed no signs of disdain toward KU or any humiliation (Jenkins).

Hull got $250k after being near the bottom of the Big 12 in salary and proving with Lee, Octavius, Jordan, Takulve, Clark, Starks, etc that he can fill the role of recruiting coordinator. He's making a salary that is astronomical
I fixed your post

I have said before if we stay above #50 it will be good for a 2-22 coach. Shows little coaching ability but ability to get some early commits. If DB tanks in third year, 2-12, for example, the 2018 recruiting class will continue to trend downward, as it has so far in 2017.
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 07/19/17 01:04 PM

Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
Originally Posted By: dgless21
Also, I never saw KU get above 4th on 247, so I'm curious where we're getting the arbitrary starting point of 2nd. Is there a link for this somewhere?

I feel like this is another revision by KUCO to obfuscate the facts.
Kman adjusted poll figure was #2 and he admits it. Now, you on the other hand...


I like proof. Where is it?

Kman is a mythical creature. He's not even real.
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 07/19/17 01:24 PM

Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
I fixed your post

I have said before if we stay above #50 it will be good for a 2-22 coach. Shows little coaching ability but ability to get some early commits. If DB tanks in third year, 2-12, for example, the 2018 recruiting class will continue to trend downward, as it has so far in 2017.


You fixed it to another unproven opinion. His salary is competitive with the rest of the big 12. Astronomical is both opinion and baseless. His salary, according to USA Today's salary database, isn't even even the top 25 of the Big 12. By comparison to others in the profession, it is not astronomical.

Nothing you say has merit because it is rarely based in fact. It is simply you, with your slanted agenda and desire for attention bloviating your opinion.

Beaty showing "little coaching ability" isn't backed up by fact. A number of coaches had losing records early in their careers.

Going 2-12 when we'd only play 12 games with two wins is not possible.

Your suggestion that the current class is trending down when we've been told repeatedly by you that we shouldn't count on anyone until they're in class and on the field is hypocritical. My understanding of what you posted is that none of those guys are on the field or in class for KU yet, so I shouldn't be worried about the rankings trending upward or downward yet. However, once a week, here you are whining about the rankings of players that aren't in class or on field for KU.
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 07/19/17 01:43 PM

Originally Posted By: dgless21
Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
Originally Posted By: dgless21
Also, I never saw KU get above 4th on 247, so I'm curious where we're getting the arbitrary starting point of 2nd. Is there a link for this somewhere?

I feel like this is another revision by KUCO to obfuscate the facts.
Kman adjusted poll figure was #2 and he admits it. Now, you on the other hand...


I like proof. Where is it?

Kman is a mythical creature. He's not even real.
Now you've done it. Kman is too real - you take that back right now!
Posted by: Kman_blue

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 07/19/17 01:44 PM

Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
Since when does "time frame" equal same poll? You are the poster exaggerating my intent here. We have slid from the #2 area to the #33-5 area in various rankings when I last checked a ranking. Happened to be a 247 poll ranking.
247 never had KU ranked as high as #2. I did not exaggerate that fact nor any other unlike you, which was a main point of my entire previous post.

Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
But the main problem I have is, our AD is also acting the part of eager HS schoolboy by shoveling money at our staff (mainly Hull) for getting the attention of the kids in Louisiana. Get some results on the field first, Zinger (let's hope it's soon!), then give raises.
Hard to get some results on the field without the players/recruits to do it with. Recruiting is VERY important if you like good results on the field. Literally college football 101 stuff here. Hell, it's more remedial than that. It's college football 001.
Posted by: Kman_blue

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 07/19/17 01:45 PM

Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
I have said before if we stay above #50 it will be good for a 2-22 coach.
Yet, here you are b!tching about being ranked at #33 according to 247.
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 07/19/17 01:47 PM

Originally Posted By: dgless21
Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
I fixed your post

I have said before if we stay above #50 it will be good for a 2-22 coach. Shows little coaching ability but ability to get some early commits. If DB tanks in third year, 2-12, for example, the 2018 recruiting class will continue to trend downward, as it has so far in 2017.


You fixed it to another unproven opinion. His salary is competitive with the rest of the big 12. Astronomical is both opinion and baseless. His salary, according to USA Today's salary database, isn't even even the top 25 of the Big 12. By comparison to others in the profession, it is not astronomical.

Nothing you say has merit because it is rarely based in fact. It is simply you, with your slanted agenda and desire for attention bloviating your opinion.

Beaty showing "little coaching ability" isn't backed up by fact. A number of coaches had losing records early in their careers.

Going 2-12 when we'd only play 12 games with two wins is not possible.

Your suggestion that the current class is trending down when we've been told repeatedly by you that we shouldn't count on anyone until they're in class and on the field is hypocritical. My understanding of what you posted is that none of those guys are on the field or in class for KU yet, so I shouldn't be worried about the rankings trending upward or downward yet. However, once a week, here you are whining about the rankings of players that aren't in class or on field for KU.
Link?
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 07/19/17 01:50 PM

Originally Posted By: Kman_blue
Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
I have said before if we stay above #50 it will be good for a 2-22 coach.
Yet, here you are b!tching about being ranked at #33 according to 247.
Only thing I noted was the downward trend. I don't know how to b!tch.

35, not 33.
Posted by: Kman_blue

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 07/19/17 01:57 PM

Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
Only thing I noted was the downward trend. I don't know how to b!tch.

35, not 33.
90% of what you do is whine and b!tch. You're a pro at it.

And to what point do you go out of your way to note this downward trend? Oh, I know! TO B!TCH! OK, OK, maybe you do it just to try and crap on KU football just like our resident grape. After all that is what makes up the other 10% of what you do here.
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 07/19/17 02:13 PM

Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
Link?


You'll have to be more specific.
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 07/19/17 02:20 PM

Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
I don't know how to b!tch.


Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 07/19/17 06:55 PM

Originally Posted By: dgless21
Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
Link?


You'll have to be more specific.
II highlighted the specifics dude
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 07/19/17 08:30 PM

Oh. You mean when I tell you right where to find it?

Got it. Google it.
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 07/19/17 08:44 PM

Originally Posted By: dgless21
Oh. You mean when I tell you right where to find it?

Got it. Google it.
You mean it doesn't exist. Got it. Doggy style BS.
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 07/19/17 08:48 PM

Originally Posted By: Kman_blue
Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
Only thing I noted was the downward trend. I don't know how to b!tch.

35, not 33.
90% of what you do is whine and b!tch. You're a pro at it.

And to what point do you go out of your way to note this downward trend? Oh, I know! TO B!TCH! OK, OK, maybe you do it just to try and crap on KU football just like our resident grape. After all that is what makes up the other 10% of what you do here.
Point being #2 -4 doesn't mean squat until much later. But both you unicorns bleated about it being a turning point. It's not. I don't think DB can coach'em up...just like CW couldn't at ND. Or here. Too old meets too inexperienced at Kansas.

Get a turn around specialist.
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 07/19/17 09:55 PM

Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
Originally Posted By: dgless21
Oh. You mean when I tell you right where to find it?

Got it. Google it.
You mean it doesn't exist. Got it. Doggy style BS.


Not going to support your laziness.
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 07/19/17 11:12 PM

Originally Posted By: dgless21
Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
Originally Posted By: dgless21
Oh. You mean when I tell you right where to find it?

Got it. Google it.
You mean it doesn't exist. Got it. Doggy style BS.


Not going to support your laziness.
Fake news. It doesn't exist.
Posted by: Kman_blue

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 07/20/17 03:50 AM

Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
Point being #2 -4 doesn't mean squat until much later.
I guess that means #33 doesn't mean squat either according to your reasoning which means your entire premise of a downward trend doesn't mean squat as well. Good job defeating your own point illustrating your entire dogma on this topic has been pointless.

Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
...both you unicorns bleated about it being a turning point.
First, there's more than 2 KU football fans(unicorns according to you) floating around this message board and 2nd, I never once said, nor insinuated it was a "turning point" for KU football nor coach Beaty. My exact words were in fact,

IT'S A GREAT DAY TO BE A JAYHAWK!!

I'm pumped


Yet another straw man from you.

Good for you that you had ZERO excitement about that weekend and continue to have ZERO excitement or support for KU football/recruiting. Great job at continuing to be a miserable sh!t trying to crap all over everything KU football because you hate and don't believe in the current head coach. Way to go!
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 07/20/17 07:58 AM

Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
Fake news. It doesn't exist.


Aww. My feelings are hurt.

Did it not come up on Bing?
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 07/20/17 09:45 AM

Originally Posted By: Kman_blue
Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
Point being #2 -4 doesn't mean squat until much later.
I guess that means #33 doesn't mean squat either according to your reasoning which means your entire premise of a downward trend doesn't mean squat as well. Good job defeating your own point illustrating your entire dogma on this topic has been pointless.

Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
...both you unicorns bleated about it being a turning point.
First, there's more than 2 KU football fans(unicorns according to you) floating around this message board and 2nd, I never once said, nor insinuated it was a "turning point" for KU football nor coach Beaty. My exact words were in fact,

IT'S A GREAT DAY TO BE A JAYHAWK!!

I'm pumped


Yet another straw man from you.

Good for you that you had ZERO excitement about that weekend and continue to have ZERO excitement or support for KU football/recruiting. Great job at continuing to be a miserable sh!t trying to crap all over everything KU football because you hate and don't believe in the current head coach. Way to go!
I keep a calm perspective about what level we at Kansas are at as it relates to the football program. I am neither miserable or a sh!t trying to crap on DB. If he can coach, I will be cheerleader #1. If you can turn water into gold, let me know that too.

Just for the unicorns (kman,dgless) I checked 247 football team recruiting rankings 2018 today. Good news! The ranking was now up to #33 (with the gray box showing #36 - bummer). You like the gray box number, if I recall, but I stick with the #33 location. Up two places so no it's not a trend but a momentary blip. I hope it turns into a trend...
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 07/20/17 11:03 AM

In other words, you're a huge fair weather fan.

You whine about the program, the salaries, the quarterbacks, the coaching turnover, you want Beaty out for a turnaround specialist, and you complain about the recruiting....but you'll be cheerleader #1 if we win.
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 07/20/17 12:02 PM

Originally Posted By: dgless21
In other words, you're a huge fair weather fan.

You whine about the program, the salaries, the quarterbacks, the coaching turnover, you want Beaty out for a turnaround specialist, and you complain about the recruiting....but you'll be cheerleader #1 if we win.
I said I would turn into DB's #1 cheerleader if he can turn water into gold, dude.

I'll always be a fan of Kansas sports. Love the idea of the football team winning someday as well.
Posted by: Kman_blue

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 07/20/17 03:16 PM

To sum it up, KUCO's reaction at the end of KU's Orange Bowl win.

Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 07/20/17 03:34 PM

He definitely wouldn't be at the game.

He'd probably be on here complaining. We were trending downward because we were ranked #2 on the 24th of November and in January when we played VT we were #8. Plus, we probably gave some coaches more money before the season.
Posted by: Kman_blue

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 07/20/17 04:07 PM

I didn't say that was actually at the KU Orange Bowl game.

He was really at a CSU women's bball game on a date with Bobo and Bohl.
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 07/20/17 04:19 PM

Originally Posted By: Kman_blue
I didn't say that was actually at the KU Orange Bowl game.

He was really at a CSU women's bball game on a date with Bobo and Bohl.
Oh no, I would never two time you & Dgless with B & B!! So, you never watch it or support it-women's bbl? I'm not a Ft Collins or Boulder athletic supporter BTW.
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 07/20/17 04:21 PM

Originally Posted By: dgless21
He definitely wouldn't be at the game.

He'd probably be on here complaining. We were trending downward because we were ranked #2 on the 24th of November and in January when we played VT we were #8. Plus, we probably gave some coaches more money before the season.
Link?

Lew didn't give out money like it was Halloween candy. He kept it for himself.
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 07/20/17 04:29 PM

Originally Posted By: Kman_blue
To sum it up, KUCO's reaction at the end of KU's Orange Bowl win.

Wrong guy. I'm not a stache type. Looks like Capt Kangaroo...

At least he wore blue jersey.
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 07/20/17 04:33 PM

Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
Lew didn't give out money like it was Halloween candy. He kept it for himself.


Link?
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 07/20/17 04:34 PM

Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
I'm not a stache type.


Link?
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 07/20/17 04:34 PM

Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
I'm not a Ft Collins or Boulder athletic supporter


Link?
Posted by: Kman_blue

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 07/20/17 08:06 PM

Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
Originally Posted By: Kman_blue
To sum it up, KUCO's reaction at the end of KU's Orange Bowl win.

Wrong guy. I'm not a stache type. Looks like Capt Kangaroo...

At least he wore blue jersey.
Well, I figured you may be a captain kangaroo after an all night bender type of guy.
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 07/20/17 08:15 PM

Originally Posted By: dgless21
Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
I'm not a Ft Collins or Boulder athletic supporter


Link?
Sausage or turkey? I'm going with turkey...
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 07/20/17 08:16 PM

Originally Posted By: dgless21
Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
I'm not a stache type.


Link?
I have an extensive LinkedIn profile. Is that what you are thinking?
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 07/20/17 08:19 PM

Originally Posted By: dgless21
Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
Lew didn't give out money like it was Halloween candy. He kept it for himself.


Link?
You don't remember his exercise equipment?
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 07/20/17 10:29 PM

Three attempts and not a single slightly humorous comment.

Not a single link either.
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 07/21/17 07:29 AM

Originally Posted By: dgless21
Three attempts and not a single slightly humorous comment.
Link?
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 07/21/17 07:56 AM

I notice that's your go to move when you don't have an intelligent response.

I enjoy that you've imitated my asking you for links when you repeatedly post unfounded BS. Just like you imitate my insults.

I'm beginning to think you just want to be me.
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 07/21/17 01:49 PM

Originally Posted By: dgless21
I'm beginning to think I just want to be like you.
Well, flattery goes a long way with me. Thanks, Dgless!!
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 07/21/17 01:54 PM

That quote is as factual as everything else you post on here.
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 07/21/17 02:07 PM

Originally Posted By: dgless21
That quote is as factual as everything else you post on here.
I was told you aren't real either per kman. Sounds like a cat fight going to break...
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 07/21/17 02:11 PM

Nothing you post is factual.
Posted by: kylecof11

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 07/21/17 04:20 PM

Corione Harris just announced his official visits for the season. Dates are TBD.. He says things can change, but he's definitely going to take advantage of getting 5 visits.

Kansas
WVU
Texas
Miss State
Florida

Having no LSU on the list is fairly encouraging. West Viriginia seems to be a surprise entry. Still feeling really confident that Kansas gets him to sign.
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 07/21/17 04:38 PM

Not saying this is why, but it's interesting:

WVU has Tevin Bush from Landry Walker.

Miss State has Keytaon Thompson from Landry Walker.

Texas has Alex Anderson from Landry Walker.

Florida has Brad Stewart that I believe is from the same 7v7 team.
Posted by: Kman_blue

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 07/22/17 01:34 AM

Originally Posted By: kylecof11
Corione Harris just announced his official visits for the season. Dates are TBD.. He says things can change, but he's definitely going to take advantage of getting 5 visits.

Kansas
WVU
Texas
Miss State
Florida

Having no LSU on the list is fairly encouraging. West Viriginia seems to be a surprise entry. Still feeling really confident that Kansas gets him to sign.


I know Harris and probably Jason talking about taking other visits is making everyone nervous, but this is the reality of recruiting top 100 type guys. This is how it goes for most all of them, verbally committed or not to any school whether it be KU or Alabama this is just how it seems to go a lot of the time. But Jason and Harris both retweeted this great KU football video tweet by Colouring KU tonight (Friday 7/21). That's another good sign I think.

If you don't know, Colouring KU has been posting a ton of awesome KU pics, gifs, and videos for several years now. Worth a follow if you're on twitter and not already following and if you're not on twitter worth checking out from time to time to see what new graphic/video they've posted.
Posted by: EstebanBugatti

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 07/22/17 01:57 AM

KU had their Friday Night Lights camp yesterday. I know he isn't in the '18 class but its worth noting that 4-Star LB Marcel Brooks from Texas made the trip up and left with an offer.
Posted by: schmuck34

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 07/22/17 01:58 AM

Kman I love this stuff and your other post on Dineen visiting the kids. Now if we can just all agree to ignore Cocoa I'll be happy to visit more.
Posted by: Kman_blue

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 07/22/17 02:01 AM

Originally Posted By: EstebanBugatti
KU had their Friday Night Lights camp yesterday. I know he isn't in the '18 class but its worth noting that 4-Star LB Marcel Brooks from Texas made the trip up and left with an offer.
Heard, the QB from Blue Valley North also was there for like his 3rd or 4th visit to KU since he got offered back in the spring.

Also heard the turnout was a good one for the 3rd year in a row now. Lot of guys came in with their teams/teammates. Wonder who else left with an offer. Thought someone else for sure got one, but didn't catch who it was.

I think the JUCO camp tomorrow is gonna be a big one too. Think there's a few guys KU is targeting who'll be there. These camps have turned into a really good recruiting tool for KU since Beaty revamped them.
Posted by: Kman_blue

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 07/22/17 02:02 AM

Originally Posted By: schmuck34
Kman I love this stuff and your other post on Dineen visiting the kids. Now if we can just all agree to ignore Cocoa I'll be happy to visit more.
LOL! I'll do my best, but sometimes I'm bored and it's just too easy. grin
Posted by: EstebanBugatti

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 07/22/17 02:40 AM

Originally Posted By: Kman_blue
Originally Posted By: EstebanBugatti
KU had their Friday Night Lights camp yesterday. I know he isn't in the '18 class but its worth noting that 4-Star LB Marcel Brooks from Texas made the trip up and left with an offer.
Heard, the QB from Blue Valley North also was there for like his 3rd or 4th visit to KU since he got offered back in the spring.

Also heard the turnout was a good one for the 3rd year in a row now. Lot of guys came in with their teams/teammates. Wonder who else left with an offer. Thought someone else for sure got one, but didn't catch who it was.

I think the JUCO camp tomorrow is gonna be a big one too. Think there's a few guys KU is targeting who'll be there. These camps have turned into a really good recruiting tool for KU since Beaty revamped them.


Sounds like 300 recruits were in town for the camp. The other one who was offered is Lawrence CB Ekow Boye-Doe. Kind of easy to forget that name. lol
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 07/22/17 08:09 AM

Originally Posted By: schmuck34
... if we can just all agree to ignore Cocoa I'll be happy to visit more.
And so will Goober. My point exactly.
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 07/22/17 12:06 PM

Originally Posted By: EstebanBugatti
KU had their Friday Night Lights camp yesterday. I know he isn't in the '18 class but its worth noting that 4-Star LB Marcel Brooks from Texas made the trip up and left with an offer.


AKA SNIPER5‏ @MarcelBrooks_5 21h
I just received an offer from Kansas University for WR and OLB. I had so much fun and got good coaching, they made a big impression on me.

AKA SNIPER5‏ @MarcelBrooks_5 20h
First linebacker Kansas offered that's just love💪🏾
Posted by: EstebanBugatti

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 07/22/17 06:19 PM

Looks like another 300 recruits are in town for the JuCo camp tonight.
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 07/22/17 06:46 PM

Jayden Russell is another guy that seems to be an early, big target for 2019.

Offers from ISU, KSU, KU, Toledo (per Rivals).

He was on campus yesterday.
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 07/22/17 06:50 PM

Originally Posted By: EstebanBugatti
Looks like another 300 recruits are in town for the JuCo camp tonight.


This is hosted by Adidas, IIRC. I imagine the vast majority of KS Jucos will have their kids in town trying to get D1 eyeballs on them.
Posted by: Kman_blue

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 07/23/17 12:49 AM

Originally Posted By: EstebanBugatti
Looks like another 300 recruits are in town for the JuCo camp tonight.
I heard it was 306 JUCO's at the camp tonight to be exact.

That makes more than 600 campers attending both camps. That's an insane number of campers in just 2 camps over about a 24 hour period!
Posted by: pizzanbeer

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 07/23/17 08:01 AM

These camps are a win for the players and a win for KU. Beaty commented in a Rivals interview about how these Adidas camps are happening around the US and they help him see recruits that he otherwise would not have noticed in the past. Hosting the camps at KU brings in players that might have not visited KU in the past so it is good exposure and advertising for the progress Beaty is making. I also think it is good advertising for Beaty and KU among the coaches that visit in case Beaty needs to fill an assistant coaching vacancy.
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 07/23/17 09:30 AM

Originally Posted By: pizzanbeer
These camps are a win for the players and a win for KU. Beaty commented in a Rivals interview about how these Adidas camps are happening around the US and they help him see recruits that he otherwise would not have noticed in the past. Hosting the camps at KU brings in players that might have not visited KU in the past so it is good exposure and advertising for the progress Beaty is making. I also think it is good advertising for Beaty and KU among the coaches that visit in case Beaty needs to fill an assistant coaching vacancy.
http://www.omaha.com/huskers/football/re...b941cda6a3.html
The Nebraska connection wasn't one I expected when I reviewed the camp situation but there it is. KU hand in hand with the children of the corn. More likely NU steals some up and coming asst from Kansas rather than the reverse, pizza.
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 07/23/17 12:34 PM

http://www.kansascity.com/sports/college/big-12/university-of-kansas/article155628909.html

Over a month old Rivals ranking, for the unicorns amongst us. I normally go with 247, probably more realistic. But it's all good news...

Note: Jesse Newell, sportswriter for KC Star, formerly a LJW sportswriter who moved on after the Simons family sold off the paper to a East Coast publishing company.
Posted by: pizzanbeer

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 07/23/17 01:04 PM

Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
http://www.omaha.com/huskers/football/re...b941cda6a3.html
The Nebraska connection wasn't one I expected when I reviewed the camp situation but there it is. KU hand in hand with the children of the corn. More likely NU steals some up and coming asst from Kansas rather than the reverse, pizza.


I am glad to hear we are not competing with Nebraska for JC players. From the article you linked. "Nebraska has not signed a junior college player under Riley."
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 07/23/17 01:44 PM

Originally Posted By: pizzanbeer
Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
http://www.omaha.com/huskers/football/re...b941cda6a3.html
The Nebraska connection wasn't one I expected when I reviewed the camp situation but there it is. KU hand in hand with the children of the corn. More likely NU steals some up and coming asst from Kansas rather than the reverse, pizza.


I am glad to hear we are not competing with Nebraska for JC players. From the article you linked. "Nebraska has not signed a junior college player under Riley."
A little farther down it states two jucos being targeted now by Coach Riley for Nebraska. So that is why NU is involved with the camp!! We could use the help for KU.

Edit: HC Riley has "earned it". Meaning fans respect at NU & OSU is there. Did you know he had two separate careers there? Guy has won 10 football games. Not in his career but in one season!!
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 07/23/17 07:22 PM

Ja'Marr Chase to UF.

Kinda curious after he was down to LSU and TCU a couple weeks ago.

Also interesting because Aaron Brule doesn't have a Florida offer.
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 07/23/17 07:46 PM

Originally Posted By: pizzanbeer
Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
http://www.omaha.com/huskers/football/re...b941cda6a3.html
The Nebraska connection wasn't one I expected when I reviewed the camp situation but there it is. KU hand in hand with the children of the corn. More likely NU steals some up and coming asst from Kansas rather than the reverse, pizza.


I am glad to hear we are not competing with Nebraska for JC players. From the article you linked. "Nebraska has not signed a junior college player under Riley."
Pizza - next paragraph following "Nebraska has not signed a junior college player..." is the names of jucos Riley IS interested in signing. Can't you read?
"The Huskers have shown interest in some JUCO prospects for the 2018 class — specifically offensive linemen Badara Traore and Malik Besseck from ASA College in Brooklyn, New York. It's also possible, with four open scholarships entering the fall, that NU finds a late junior college addition for the 2017 season, especially after offensive lineman Dwayne Johnson left the program as a graduate transfer."

Yes, they ARE interested in competing for juco players.
Posted by: 58hawk

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 07/23/17 09:51 PM

Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
http://www.kansascity.com/sports/college/big-12/university-of-kansas/article155628909.html

Over a month old Rivals ranking, for the unicorns amongst us. I normally go with 247, probably more realistic. But it's all good news...

Note: Jesse Newell, sportswriter for KC Star, formerly a LJW sportswriter who moved on after the Simons family sold off the paper to a East Coast publishing company.
Why is 247 more realistic then Rivals or are you blowing another one out of your arse?
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 07/23/17 10:29 PM

My opinion is based loosely on this:

If we were 22-2 over last two years I would assume Rivals 12 is more realistic. If 2-22, then 247 is closer to being our real recruiting rankings.
Posted by: Kman_blue

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 07/24/17 12:38 AM

Heard there were a couple of players the coaches were interested in at the JUCO camp, but nobody was immediately offered.

Also, the JUCO camp was an Adidas sponsored camp and that's why all of those other schools were invited to take part in the camp. They're all Adidas schools. There's a reason behind it being done this way, but I don't recall off the top of my head right now. Some NCAA rule or something along those lines.
Posted by: Kman_blue

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 07/24/17 12:40 AM

Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
My opinion is based mainly on this:

If we were 22-2 over last two years I would assume Rivals 12 is more realistic. If 2-22, then 247 is closer to being our real recruiting rankings.
Good grief. That's so flawed I don't think it even qualifies as "reasoning".

Looks much more like an excuse to continue down the road of extreme pessimism.
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 07/24/17 06:37 AM

Originally Posted By: Kman_blue
Heard there were a couple of players the coaches were interested in at the JUCO camp, but nobody was immediately offered.

Also, the JUCO camp was an Adidas sponsored camp and that's why all of those other schools were invited to take part in the camp. They're all Adidas schools. There's a reason behind it being done this way, but I don't recall off the top of my head right now. Some NCAA rule or something along those lines.
I then heard that Riley staff shakeups lately may create an opportunity for some Kansas staffer(s) to jump ship if offered. Makes sense for The Big Red to invade Lawrence camps.
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 07/24/17 06:41 AM

Originally Posted By: Kman_blue
Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
My opinion is based mainly on this:

If we were 22-2 over last two years I would assume Rivals 12 is more realistic. If 2-22, then 247 is closer to being our real recruiting rankings.
Good grief. That's so flawed I don't think it even qualifies as "reasoning".

Looks much more like an excuse to continue down the road of extreme pessimism.
After the fact, I would change "based mainly on this:", to read as "based loosely on this:". You were not the one that created my change BTW. Just thought longer about my original post.
Posted by: 58hawk

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 07/24/17 10:53 AM

Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
Originally Posted By: Kman_blue
Heard there were a couple of players the coaches were interested in at the JUCO camp, but nobody was immediately offered.

Also, the JUCO camp was an Adidas sponsored camp and that's why all of those other schools were invited to take part in the camp. They're all Adidas schools. There's a reason behind it being done this way, but I don't recall off the top of my head right now. Some NCAA rule or something along those lines.
I then heard that Riley staff shakeups lately may create an opportunity for some Kansas staffer(s) to jump ship if offered. Makes sense for The Big Red to invade Lawrence camps.
Source?
Posted by: 58hawk

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 07/24/17 10:54 AM

Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
Originally Posted By: Kman_blue
Heard there were a couple of players the coaches were interested in at the JUCO camp, but nobody was immediately offered.

Also, the JUCO camp was an Adidas sponsored camp and that's why all of those other schools were invited to take part in the camp. They're all Adidas schools. There's a reason behind it being done this way, but I don't recall off the top of my head right now. Some NCAA rule or something along those lines.
I then heard that Riley staff shakeups lately may create an opportunity for some Kansas staffer(s) to jump ship if offered. Makes sense for The Big Red to invade Lawrence camps.
Source?
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 07/24/17 11:16 AM

Originally Posted By: 58hawk
Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
Originally Posted By: Kman_blue
Heard there were a couple of players the coaches were interested in at the JUCO camp, but nobody was immediately offered.

Also, the JUCO camp was an Adidas sponsored camp and that's why all of those other schools were invited to take part in the camp. They're all Adidas schools. There's a reason behind it being done this way, but I don't recall off the top of my head right now. Some NCAA rule or something along those lines.
I then heard that Riley staff shakeups lately may create an opportunity for some Kansas staffer(s) to jump ship if offered. Makes sense for The Big Red to invade Lawrence camps.
Source?
A source for "what I heard" is unavailable, but interesting. Riley dumped his long time DC buddy after last season, so take it for what it's worth to you regarding Nebraska football...
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 07/24/17 12:06 PM

Originally Posted By: 58hawk
Source?


Considering the poster, you knew the answer. Unspecific source. Unspecific information.

No reputable source is suggesting Mike Riley was there for any reason other than to see prospects. He has a full staff.

But, hey, I "heard" KU is only hosting these camps to find a new person to plug in that new assistant coach spot opening next year. No source.

Obviously, no one was there to see the 305 JUCO prospects.
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 07/24/17 01:30 PM

Ekow Boye-Doe from Lawrence High picked up a KU offer at the camp Friday. A 6'0", 165 lb, and 4.38 40 time WR or CB.

https://kansas.rivals.com/news/ekow-boye-dow-earns-offers-from-kansas-kansas-state

https://n.rivals.com/content/prospects/2018/ekow-boye-doe-206678
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 07/24/17 01:34 PM

Originally Posted By: dgless21
Originally Posted By: 58hawk
Source?


Considering the poster, you knew the answer. Unspecific source. Unspecific information.

No reputable source is suggesting Mike Riley was there for any reason other than to see prospects. He has a full staff.

But, hey, I "heard" KU is only hosting these camps to find a new person to plug in that new assistant coach spot opening next year. No source.

Obviously, no one was there to see the 305 JUCO prospects.
I'm not a unicorn lover, so I think differently when NU arrives at KU. Gotta be a reason(s), like a new staff addition or juco player adds. So you think you can say stuff like "I heard" and get away with that crap but if it's me, it's all different...got it.

Gotta chuckle at kman saying it's all good to see Big Red again!!
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 07/24/17 01:36 PM

Originally Posted By: dgless21
Ekow Boye-Doe from Lawrence High picked up a KU offer at the camp Friday. A 6'0", 165 lb, and 4.38 40 time WR or CB.

https://kansas.rivals.com/news/ekow-boye-dow-earns-offers-from-kansas-kansas-state

https://n.rivals.com/content/prospects/2018/ekow-boye-doe-206678
Thank god you sourced it! 58 would be all over your butt.
Posted by: 58hawk

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 07/24/17 05:49 PM

Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
Originally Posted By: dgless21
Ekow Boye-Doe from Lawrence High picked up a KU offer at the camp Friday. A 6'0", 165 lb, and 4.38 40 time WR or CB.

https://kansas.rivals.com/news/ekow-boye-dow-earns-offers-from-kansas-kansas-state

https://n.rivals.com/content/prospects/2018/ekow-boye-doe-206678
Thank god you sourced it! 58 would be all over your butt.
The only "sourcing" I need is from you.
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 07/24/17 06:01 PM

Originally Posted By: 58hawk
Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
Originally Posted By: dgless21
Ekow Boye-Doe from Lawrence High picked up a KU offer at the camp Friday. A 6'0", 165 lb, and 4.38 40 time WR or CB.

https://kansas.rivals.com/news/ekow-boye-dow-earns-offers-from-kansas-kansas-state

https://n.rivals.com/content/prospects/2018/ekow-boye-doe-206678
Thank god you sourced it! 58 would be all over your butt.
The only "sourcing" I need is from you.
That was my point exactly. You need to quit leaning on dgless to be your truthful poster uni.
Basically my stuff is as accurate as dgless.
Posted by: Kman_blue

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 07/24/17 10:46 PM

Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
Thank god you sourced it! 58 would be all over your butt.
The only "sourcing" I need is from you. [/quote]That was my point exactly. You need to quit leaning on dgless to be your truthful poster uni.
Basically my stuff is as accurate as dgless. [/quote]Ha! I just about spit out my drink with this one.

99% of what you post is unfounded bias devoid of facts.

Hardly as accurate as literally any other poster on here except maybe timmycats.
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 07/24/17 11:44 PM

Originally Posted By: Kman_blue
Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
Thank god you sourced it! 58 would be all over your butt.
The only "sourcing" I need is from you.
That was my point exactly. You need to quit leaning on dgless to be your truthful poster uni.
Basically my stuff is as accurate as dgless. [/quote]Ha! I just about spit out my drink with this one.

99% of what you post is unfounded bias devoid of facts.

Hardly as accurate as literally any other poster on here except maybe timmycats. [/quote]Who are you? A Big Red fan! You say come on NU get anything you want...favorite color? Red
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 07/25/17 07:51 AM

Kman has posted more inside information about KU than anyone here. Accusing him of being an NU fan is not helping your claim to being truthful or accurate.
Posted by: kylecof11

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 07/25/17 08:02 AM

Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC

99% of what you post is unfounded bias devoid of facts.

Hardly as accurate as literally any other poster on here except maybe timmycats. Who are you? A Big Red fan! You say come on NU get anything you want...favorite color? Red


You have been talking out your arse for so long now I can't take anything you say seriously anymore. It's to the point where it's past comical for me..
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 07/25/17 11:46 AM

Originally Posted By: kylecof11
Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC

99% of what you post is unfounded bias devoid of facts.

Who are you, kman? A Big Red fan! You say come on NU get anything you want...favorite color? Red!


You have been talking out your arse for so long now I can't take anything you say seriously anymore. It's to the point where it's past comical for me..
I'm joking about kman preferring NU over KU, BTW. Total BS...
Posted by: 58hawk

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 07/25/17 02:30 PM

Originally Posted By: kylecof11
Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC

99% of what you post is unfounded bias devoid of facts.

Hardly as accurate as literally any other poster on here except maybe timmycats. Who are you? A Big Red fan! You say come on NU get anything you want...favorite color? Red


You have been talking out your arse for so long now I can't take anything you say seriously anymore. It's to the point where it's past comical for me..
Put him on ignore. That way you can be part of real conversation about KU football.
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 07/25/17 03:32 PM

An update on Najee Stevens-McKenzie:

https://kansas.rivals.com/news/jayhawks-making-strong-push-at-talented-defensive-end

Says we're in his top four with Missouri, UCF, and Maryland.
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 07/25/17 03:50 PM

Offered Moss Saccomanno according to his twitter.

Looks like he's a TE at Dodge City CC.

6'4", 230 -- http://www.hudl.com/profile/8295698/moss-saccomanno

https://twitter.com/GianMossimo/status/889944760416444417
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 07/25/17 06:11 PM

Originally Posted By: 58hawk
Originally Posted By: kylecof11
Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC

99% of what you post is unfounded bias devoid of facts.

Hardly as accurate as literally any other poster on here except maybe timmycats. Who are you? A Big Red fan! You say come on NU get anything you want...favorite color? Red


You have been talking out your arse for so long now I can't take anything you say seriously anymore. It's to the point where it's past comical for me..
Put him on ignore. That way you can be part of real conversation about KU football.
Better show him the secret handshake!!

You sound mature when you talk about me to others.
Posted by: pizzanbeer

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 07/25/17 06:53 PM

Alright I'm ready for another #neatdeal.
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 07/25/17 06:57 PM

Originally Posted By: dgless21
Kman has posted more inside information about KU than anyone here. Accusing him of being an NU fan is not helping your claim to being truthful or accurate.
Actually that was tongue in cheek posting. But he did say he was aol with cornhuskers swarming our Juco camp. Ironic
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 07/25/17 08:13 PM

I'm also completely fine with Nebraska, A&M, Miss State, Tulsa, NC State, ASU, etc all being at the satellite camp series sponsored by adidas. I haven't seen a legitimate reason to be upset by it.

Like usual, you seem to be the only one with a conspiracy theory for why the camp was a bad thing.
Posted by: Kman_blue

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 07/25/17 11:01 PM

Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
Actually that was tongue in cheek posting. But he did say he was aol with cornhuskers swarming our Juco camp. Ironic
No I didn't. Making more sh!t up again, I see.

Look genius, here's the 2 options. KU hosts a JUCO camp with other Adidas schools involved because Adidas is the sponsor or KU host no camp of any kind. KU either gets eyes on 306 JUCO guys up close and personal or they don't.

Unlike you, the coaches know what they're doing.
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 07/26/17 10:17 AM

Well, I just looked up 247 team rankings for 2018 recruiting and we are getting screwed!

They dropped Kansas to #37 (with the gray box #41!). Still trending downward.

I said if we keep from dropping below #50 it would be a nice job by Kansas. But that seems likely that KU will drop beyond #50 at this rate. I hope we can stay in this thing...

Look it up yourself, 58!!
Posted by: 58hawk

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 07/26/17 02:21 PM

Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
Well, I just looked up 247 team rankings for 2018 recruiting and we are getting screwed!

They dropped Kansas to #37 (with the gray box #41!). Still trending downward.

I said if we keep from dropping below #50 it would be a nice job by Kansas. But that seems likely that KU will drop beyond #50 at this rate. I hope we can stay in this thing...

Look it up yourself, 58!!
The high ranking was early on when very few teams like us were ramping up recruiting for the 2008 class. Now that more teams are steaming ahead with recruiting it is natural we would fall. BTW, 31st per Rivals which is still very good.
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 07/26/17 02:57 PM

He changed the subject to something he could make negative because he was taking an "L" in the discussion about the adidas camps.
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 07/26/17 04:18 PM

Originally Posted By: dgless21
He changed the subject to something he could make negative because he was taking an "L" in the discussion about the adidas camps.
Coach Riley @ Nebraska is looking for defensive side asst help. So maybe Bowen leaves to be a linebackers assistant coach? I know that you would be utterly surprised but not me. I thought we were done with the camp posts after kman told me off real good.
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 07/26/17 04:23 PM

Originally Posted By: 58hawk
Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
Well, I just looked up 247 team rankings for 2018 recruiting and we are getting screwed!

They dropped Kansas to #37 (with the gray box #41!). Still trending downward.

I said if we keep from dropping below #50 it would be a nice job by Kansas. But that seems likely that KU will drop beyond #50 at this rate. I hope we can stay in this thing...

Look it up yourself, 58!!
The high ranking was early on when very few teams like us were ramping up recruiting for the 2008 class. Now that more teams are steaming ahead with recruiting it is natural we would fall. BTW, 31st per Rivals which is still very good.
Hopefully we are recruiting for 2018...don't you see a trend downward? I do. Hull is considered a top 25 recruiting machine. Nebraska is hanging around our campus so let's keep him here at Kansas.
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 07/26/17 04:53 PM

He told you off "real good" because you are trying to spin the adidas satellite camp as a negative and create a BS scenario with a source you don't actually have.

You have no integrity.
Posted by: 58hawk

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 07/26/17 06:51 PM

Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
Originally Posted By: 58hawk
Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
Well, I just looked up 247 team rankings for 2018 recruiting and we are getting screwed!

They dropped Kansas to #37 (with the gray box #41!). Still trending downward.

I said if we keep from dropping below #50 it would be a nice job by Kansas. But that seems likely that KU will drop beyond #50 at this rate. I hope we can stay in this thing...

Look it up yourself, 58!!
The high ranking was early on when very few teams like us were ramping up recruiting for the 2008 class. Now that more teams are steaming ahead with recruiting it is natural we would fall. BTW, 31st per Rivals which is still very good.
Hopefully we are recruiting for 2018...don't you see a trend downward? I do. Hull is considered a top 25 recruiting machine. Nebraska is hanging around our campus so let's keep him here at Kansas.
No I don't see a trend downward. Its an upturn from recruiting in the past. Why wouldn't we want to bring in a full class for 2018?
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 07/27/17 01:38 PM

Offered a 14 year old from Duncanville, TX. Class of 2021.

Kendrick Blackshire‏ @KendrickBlacks1 3h
Very grateful to receive another from Kansas Universirty #RockChalk #WeBuzzn #BuzzGang @truebuzzgroup @KUAthletics

Already has an offer from LSU.
Posted by: Kman_blue

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 07/27/17 11:24 PM

That kid is the definition of a man-child! He's already built like a mack truck and seems to be a good kid too. I think he's being trained by a former Jayhawk, or someone related to a recent former Jayhawk.
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 07/28/17 08:14 AM

Offered this dude yesterday:

MarQuess Daniels

6'3", 245, JUCO DE, 3 star

http://247sports.com/Player/MarQuess-Daniels-46046631

Offers from ASU, Zona, Ark State, and WSU.
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 07/29/17 12:20 PM

Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
Well, I just looked up 247 team rankings for 2018 recruiting and we are getting screwed!

They dropped Kansas to #37 (with the gray box #41!). Still trending downward.

I said if we keep from dropping below #50 it would be a nice job by Kansas. But that seems likely that KU will drop beyond #50 at this rate. I hope we can stay in this thing...

Look it up yourself, 58!!
Sorry to be a bad news bearer, but as of 7/29/17 Kansas is now #42 (with the gray box #39!). Still trending downward for our 2018 team rankings. Not talking 2017 or 2016...
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 07/29/17 02:26 PM

I prefer to talk about things you might actually know.

CSU is 85th, and on the field, they've finished fifth of the six teams in their division the last two years. Sounds like Bobo can't recruit or coach. Why is he the highest paid in the MWC?

CSU was 83rd last week. Downward trend!! Fire Bobo! They should've hired a turnaround specialist.

They were at a camp with other teams. I've heard the other teams coaches were trying to steal CSU'S coaches. Wtf?! Why would CSU go to that?! Just trust me. I have a good source on this, guys.
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 07/29/17 03:22 PM

Don't believe I ever said Fire DB because his recruiting was on a downward spiral. But it is trending that way over many months now. Did question Hull getting a butt load of additional salary when we don't even know if the kids from Louisiana are going to show up in 2018. We know three of them definitely are not. Nebraska is not CSU so the camp issue is still open for interpretation down the road. Finally, I could care less if CSU or any other team's recruiting has shifted. So a trend is one week in the making? LOL

Your lack of accuracy is astounding
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 07/29/17 05:26 PM

You chose an arbitrary date. I chose an arbitrary date.

They are trending downward. Pretty badly, actually.

Nebraska is not CSU, and CSU is not a remotely worthwhile team. Anyone could poach CSU's assistant coaches.

I didn't comment on KU. You cannot be trusted to comment unbiasedly on that particular topic, so I have no desire to discuss KU with you.
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 07/29/17 06:04 PM

Since you lack integrity, I also post KU news to the other people on here. But yet here you are...
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 07/29/17 06:07 PM

Imitating me again. I'm flattered. Although, I'm disappointed you don't want to discuss CSU football. I presented numerous topics, and you decided to change the subject anyway.

If we must discuss KU, can I ask when the last time was you posted actual KU football news that didn't include your own opinion/negative spin with it? Hell, when was the last time you posted any actual news about KU football?
Posted by: Goober

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 07/29/17 06:59 PM

Let' see......Yea, that would be a never!
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 07/30/17 06:40 AM

http://www.kansascity.com/sports/college/big-12/university-of-kansas/article26908306.html

Beaty's explanation of what he was offered. Let me know if KC Star has it all condensed correctly for you dgnip.

Hey, we are on the radar briefly for a 2021 player's top five school list IMO!! And it's a fourteener! I've hiked some pretty impressive trails in Colorado that were at that height...we talk about this stuff here, as we expect Beaty to need until 2019 to have enough bodies on the roster.
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 07/30/17 09:21 AM

I'm curious why you have such difficulty with having a civil discussion. Repeatedly trying to change "dgless21" into some childish insult is a bit sophomoric and sad.

Your point about Beaty is valid. He took over a roster that was very much lacking. Due to NCAA rules, it will take him time to get to a full roster. I bet coaches that we didn't have any shot at might've done better, though.

I don't know what your hiking has to do with anything, but you should do that more and post less, IMO.
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 07/30/17 09:36 AM

Calling another poster Asshat is a term of endearment?

We offered a 14 year old hence fourteener.

Could do without as much of you also dgless21

Beaty got a pass on coaching ability by leaning on a roster attrition excuse. Got it.
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 07/30/17 10:46 AM

When you repeatedly worry more about getting attention and your post count than actually discussing KU football, you come off as an asshat. Considering you and I have had this conversation on many occasions when you repeatedly post erroneous materials, it tends to fit.

We discussed offering a fourteen year old a few days ago.

I'm sorry that you don't like me. You're more than welcome to put me on ignore and stop reading/commenting on my posts.

Beaty getting a pass is your opinion. I don't see anyone but you claiming that these last two years didn't matter or didn't impact his standing at KU. Considering he's near the bottom of the power five in salary, it would seem his salary is commensurate with his current output. Beyond that, I feel you would need to criticize Sheahon rather than Beaty for his "getting a pass."
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 07/30/17 11:27 AM

If I worry about post count, I'm unaware. Never said I dislike you btw. And it's fourteen year old, not years old. Your inaccuracy I can tolerate, but you do seem to like being considered a Kansas football sage. We both have integrity IMO. Think I covered your concerns...but now the Beaty 50% salary increase after one significant upset in two seasons of work is astounding to me. But that's Kansas football at it's finest. Throwing Zinger under the bus?

His bbl program probably provides him some stature as a AD.
Posted by: track

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 07/30/17 01:52 PM

Originally Posted By: dgless21
When you repeatedly worry more about getting attention and your post count than actually discussing KU football, you come off as an asshat. Considering you and I have had this conversation on many occasions when you repeatedly post erroneous materials, it tends to fit.

We discussed offering a fourteen year old a few days ago.

I'm sorry that you don't like me. You're more than welcome to put me on ignore and stop reading/commenting on my posts.

Beaty getting a pass is your opinion. I don't see anyone but you claiming that these last two years didn't matter or didn't impact his standing at KU. Considering he's near the bottom of the power five in salary, it would seem his salary is commensurate with his current output. Beyond that, I feel you would need to criticize Sheahon rather than Beaty for his "getting a pass."
Originally Posted By: dgless21
When you repeatedly worry more about getting attention and your post count than actually discussing KU football, you come off as an asshat. Considering you and I have had this conversation on many occasions when you repeatedly post erroneous materials, it tends to fit.

We discussed offering a fourteen year old a few days ago.

I'm sorry that you don't like me. You're more than welcome to put me on ignore and stop reading/commenting on my posts.

Beaty getting a pass is your opinion. I don't see anyone but you claiming that these last two years didn't matter or didn't impact his standing at KU. Considering he's near the bottom of the power five in salary, it would seem his salary is commensurate with his current output. Beyond that, I feel you would need to criticize Sheahon rather than Beaty for his "getting a pass."

I am a poster that enjoys your informative post along with dgs too. I put tomcat,kuco, and 58 on ignore several months ago. They don't contribute anything and it makes the forum more enjoyable to not have to read their crap. I am looking forward to your insight as the season approaches. I wouldn't mind paying a monthly fee to another ku forum... any suggestions?
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 07/30/17 02:23 PM

I'm not a sage, and I have never claimed that I am.

I simply discourage people from manufacturing negative information about our program and head coach. We have enough going against the program without anyone doing that.

I don't know a "Zinger", but I know our head coach doesn't have the power to offer himself a raise and extension. Sheahon would have to do that, correct? How is Beaty (or anyone) criticized for taking more money and more job security?

Basketball hasn't improved in Zenger's time here. Not sure how that provides him anything.
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 07/30/17 02:27 PM

Originally Posted By: track
I am a poster that enjoys your informative post along with dgs too. I put tomcat,kuco, and 58 on ignore several months ago. They don't contribute anything and it makes the forum more enjoyable to not have to read their crap. I am looking forward to your insight as the season approaches. I wouldn't mind paying a monthly fee to another ku forum... any suggestions?


For the best insider information and forums, you're best served by going to Slant.

Phog is free and decent for football--more traffic than here, better moderated. KUsports.net lacks for football. Wavethewheat is similar. I don't use 247/shiver because the insiders there don't focus much on football.
Posted by: track

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 07/30/17 04:34 PM

Thanks
Posted by: appyhawk

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 07/30/17 07:48 PM

C'mon track.
Just ignore him. Desperate attention sluts hate that.
Anyone who asks kook a question in a reply is simply encouraging his ridiculous, negative impact, activity. Not to mention he counts you part of his imaginary 'supporters'.
Posted by: track

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 07/30/17 08:59 PM

Originally Posted By: appyhawk
C'mon track.
Just ignore him. Desperate attention sluts hate that.
Anyone who asks kook a question in a reply is simply encouraging his ridiculous, negative impact, activity. Not to mention he counts you part of his imaginary 'supporters'.
Originally Posted By: appyhawk
C'mon track.
Just ignore him. Desperate attention sluts hate that.
Anyone who asks kook a question in a reply is simply encouraging his ridiculous, negative impact, activity. Not to mention he counts you part of his imaginary 'supporters'.
Originally Posted By: appyhawk
C'mon track.
Just ignore him. Desperate attention sluts hate that.
Anyone who asks kook a question in a reply is simply encouraging his ridiculous, negative impact, activity. Not to mention he counts you part of his imaginary 'supporters'.
I thought I made that clear. Kuco is on ignore. If he thinks I am one of his supporters he is even more of an idiot than I thought
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 07/31/17 09:14 AM

Originally Posted By: track
Originally Posted By: dgless21
When you repeatedly worry more about getting attention and your post count than actually discussing KU football, you come off as an asshat. Considering you and I have had this conversation on many occasions when you repeatedly post erroneous materials, it tends to fit.

We discussed offering a fourteen year old a few days ago.

I'm sorry that you don't like me. You're more than welcome to put me on ignore and stop reading/commenting on my posts.

Beaty getting a pass is your opinion. I don't see anyone but you claiming that these last two years didn't matter or didn't impact his standing at KU. Considering he's near the bottom of the power five in salary, it would seem his salary is commensurate with his current output. Beyond that, I feel you would need to criticize Sheahon rather than Beaty for his "getting a pass."
Originally Posted By: dgless21
When you repeatedly worry more about getting attention and your post count than actually discussing KU football, you come off as an asshat. Considering you and I have had this conversation on many occasions when you repeatedly post erroneous materials, it tends to fit.

We discussed offering a fourteen year old a few days ago.

I'm sorry that you don't like me. You're more than welcome to put me on ignore and stop reading/commenting on my posts.

Beaty getting a pass is your opinion. I don't see anyone but you claiming that these last two years didn't matter or didn't impact his standing at KU. Considering he's near the bottom of the power five in salary, it would seem his salary is commensurate with his current output. Beyond that, I feel you would need to criticize Sheahon rather than Beaty for his "getting a pass."

I am a poster that enjoys your informative post along with dgs too. I put tomcat,kuco, and 58 on ignore several months ago. They don't contribute anything and it makes the forum more enjoyable to not have to read their crap. I am looking forward to your insight as the season approaches. I wouldn't mind paying a monthly fee to another ku forum... any suggestions?
You should probably pay a monthly fee for a new computer. I can't be the only one bored by the multiple times you pick up a poster's quote before slamming me in a negative way.

If you are "ignorantly" avoiding me, that means I get free rein!!
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 07/31/17 03:40 PM

247 latest 2018 team ranking recruiting is out. Kansas is at #40-1 with grey box at 47. We show a trend downward and I know it must be made up. Dgless21 tells me that anytime I post the latest actual news. Damnit!

Couple posters here loved boasting top five ranking many months back. We gave out salary boosts based upon #5...
Posted by: jayhawkfan0710

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 07/31/17 06:50 PM

How do you know that the salary increases were because of recruiting? Maybe it was for player development? Or for overall growth of the program the last 2 years? Quit beating the dead horse of our coaches earning more money. I'm glad they are making good money. Hope that encourages them to stay and build the program more.
Posted by: pizzanbeer

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 07/31/17 07:25 PM

Tevailance Hunt just de-committed. What happened to Beatys strong Texas ties for recruiting?
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 07/31/17 07:53 PM

You know what else has strong Texas ties? Schools in Texas...like TCU.

He'll likely commit there on Friday.
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 07/31/17 10:24 PM

Originally Posted By: jayhawkfan0710
How do you know that the salary increases were because of recruiting? Maybe it was for player development? Or for overall growth of the program the last 2 years? Quit beating the dead horse of our coaches earning more money. I'm glad they are making good money. Hope that encourages them to stay and build the program more.
Hunt de-commits which also shows the recruiting right now is hard without winning. Dead horse? Hunt just said adios today.
Posted by: pizzanbeer

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 07/31/17 10:36 PM

Originally Posted By: dgless21
You know what else has strong Texas ties? Schools in Texas...like TCU.

He'll likely commit there on Friday.



Beaty, Perry, Meacham and Riley are all from Texas and we have 1 Texas recruit in our recruiting class. Their ties to Texas are not doing much for our recruiting in Texas.
Posted by: Kman_blue

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 08/01/17 12:03 AM

Originally Posted By: pizzanbeer
Tevailance Hunt just de-committed. What happened to Beatys strong Texas ties for recruiting?
Yeah, that was a kick in the nuts. TCU has been hitting him up hard over the past 2 to 3 weeks. Looks like their hard sell worked on him. Wonder what his best friend, Hampton thinks about all of this. Kid did this at the very beginning of a dead period too so no coaches could contact him. Kind of a little bit of a weeny move IMHO.

I know a lot of guys at his age change their minds a lot though. It also seems like the KU coaches are reluctant to keep the door open to guys who decommit too, so I don't think there's any good chance he'll come back to KU. Especially as I've heard that at least 1 of our decommits has reached out again to KU and wasn't just immediately told his offer was unconditional now.

Hopefully the coaches can get another guy just as talented or more so to replace him.
Posted by: moose1

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 08/01/17 12:30 AM

Originally Posted By: Kman_blue
Originally Posted By: pizzanbeer
Tevailance Hunt just de-committed. What happened to Beatys strong Texas ties for recruiting?
Yeah, that was a kick in the nuts. TCU has been hitting him up hard over the past 2 to 3 weeks. Looks like their hard sell worked on him. Wonder what his best friend, Hampton thinks about all of this. Kid did this at the very beginning of a dead period too so no coaches could contact him. Kind of a little bit of a weeny move IMHO.

I know a lot of guys at his age change their minds a lot though. It also seems like the KU coaches are reluctant to keep the door open to guys who decommit too, so I don't think there's any good chance he'll come back to KU. Especially as I've heard that at least 1 of our decommits has reached out again to KU and wasn't just immediately told his offer was unconditional now.

Hopefully the coaches can get another guy just as talented or more so to replace him.


What hacks me off is that this kid was clearly using KU as a backup plan and as a stalking horse. I don't think he ever seriously thought about KU.
Posted by: kylecof11

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 08/01/17 08:25 AM

Yeah this is a pretty petty move, even for a 17 or 18 year old. Right before dead period, and shuts his recruitment down and then says he'll announce on August 4th. Doesn't give Beaty and Co a chance to even try to win the kid back.

This is one reason why I hate early commitments.
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 08/01/17 11:13 AM

Calling Hunt a weeny, petty and not serious is a great way to describe a youngster. He has his future to think about...classy.
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 08/01/17 12:00 PM

Originally Posted By: kylecof11
Yeah this is a pretty petty move, even for a 17 or 18 year old. Right before dead period, and shuts his recruitment down and then says he'll announce on August 4th. Doesn't give Beaty and Co a chance to even try to win the kid back.

This is one reason why I hate early commitments.


Sadly, there's not really "commitment" in today's NCAA with all the transfers.

Verbal commitments are even more worthless with all the decommits that happen. It's fun to discuss, but they mean nothing when college coaches, summer league coaches, high school coaches, parents, friends, fans, and shoe companies (moreso in basketball) all still get to whisper in your ear about other places until you sign.

It's not going to stop anytime soon. The player has nothing to lose by decommitting, and no one is going to side with a multimillion dollar athletics department.

KU does it too. We just do it to schools like Texas State (Quan Hampton comes to mind due to recent discussions). Matthews decommitted from Ole Miss before coming to KU also.
Posted by: kylecof11

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 08/01/17 12:24 PM

Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
Calling Hunt a weeny, petty and not serious is a great way to describe a youngster. He has his future to think about...classy.


Petty move to do so 5 hours before the dead period. That shows that he had no intention of staying with Kansas. He was using the Kansas offer as a way to get a higher offer from some place else. But he is TCU bound, so it is what it is. Good for him, just a bad way to do it.
Posted by: pizzanbeer

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 08/01/17 03:10 PM

At least Hunt de-committed when there is plenty of time to find a replacement. Adding Meacham gets us a win against TCU this season so that should change some recruiting perspectives.
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 08/01/17 04:58 PM

247 latest on team recruiting rankings for KU. #47 grey box#49. Still slipped some more.
Posted by: Kman_blue

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 08/02/17 08:33 AM

Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
Calling Hunt a weeny, petty and not serious is a great way to describe a youngster. He has his future to think about...classy.
You're the only fuc|king weeny. Nobody ever called Hunt a weeny.

The exact quote I said was, "a little bit of a weeny move"

I called his action a weeny move, not the kid himself. It's kind of like when Einstein forgot where he lived. That was a dumb thing, but in no way is that calling Albert Einstein dumb. Good kids can do weeny things and smart people can do dumb things. It's not a hard concept.

Learn the English language and how it works sometime. It'll do you some good.

This should help you out.
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 08/02/17 10:06 AM

Name calling...classy.

Why won't Hunt come? Posters calling him this and that. And we haven't walked the talk yet.
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 08/02/17 08:54 PM

Originally Posted By: dgless21
MarQuess Daniels

6'3", 245, JUCO DE, 3 star

http://247sports.com/Player/MarQuess-Daniels-46046631

Offers from ASU, Zona, Ark State, and WSU.


Has us in his top four with WSU, Zona, and ASU. Deciding Aug 10 per his Twitter.
Posted by: pizzanbeer

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 08/02/17 10:54 PM

Where do you think Beaty still need to shore up in this recruiting class? I think he needs more talent and depth at LB and S.
Posted by: kylecof11

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 08/03/17 08:00 AM

Linebacker is something that this team will need quick. Not much depth there, and also veteran guys that will be graduating in the next 2 years.
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 08/03/17 08:17 AM

Originally Posted By: pizzanbeer
Where do you think Beaty still need to shore up in this recruiting class? I think he needs more talent and depth at LB and S.


Malbrough is still really high on KU. He's projected to be a safety or linebacker depending on who you talk to.

I imagine we'll try to add another HS OL. Replace Trevailance with another WR or two. Then S, LB, CB, DT, or athletes.

I don't see us adding another RB, QB, K, or P unless we lose one. DE seems like it's pretty well covered also.
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 08/07/17 02:40 PM

Joe Foucha put us in his top 7.

Kansas, ASU, Ark, Bama, FSU, LSU, and Auburn.

https://twitter.com/joe_foucha/status/894628774540705796
Posted by: Kman_blue

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 08/07/17 03:28 PM

Looks like we're his best offer. grin
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 08/07/17 05:36 PM

Originally Posted By: Kman_blue
Looks like we're his best offer. grin
Hmm...Alabama, Auburn or Kansas. This is why you are called a unicorn kman.
Posted by: 58hawk

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 08/07/17 05:59 PM

Just to be included in that kind of company is impressive.
Posted by: Kman_blue

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 08/07/17 11:58 PM

Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
Originally Posted By: Kman_blue
Looks like we're his best offer. grin
Hmm...Alabama, Auburn or Kansas. This is why you are called a unicorn kman.
No, this is why I'm a KU FAN!
Posted by: kylecof11

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 08/08/17 08:01 AM

Originally Posted By: Kman_blue
Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
Originally Posted By: Kman_blue
Looks like we're his best offer. grin
Hmm...Alabama, Auburn or Kansas. This is why you are called a unicorn kman.
No, this is why I'm a KU FAN!


PREACH!!!!!!!
Posted by: appyhawk

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 08/08/17 05:18 PM

#2 recruit in Kansas worth a "neat deal"?
Blue Valley's Emery, 3*** DE, commits.
I don't know much about the source, but the article includes some interesting ranking info on team recruiting: http://ow.ly/uhi750bZjcm
Posted by: EstebanBugatti

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 08/08/17 06:21 PM

Originally Posted By: appyhawk
#2 recruit in Kansas worth a "neat deal"?
Blue Valley's Emery, 3*** DE, commits.
I don't know much about the source, but the article includes some interesting ranking info on team recruiting: http://ow.ly/uhi750bZjcm

Pretty sure he got one back when he committed. lol
Posted by: bigdogjac

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 08/08/17 08:04 PM

This is the kind of player we used to lose to OU! Big pick up!
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 08/09/17 12:27 AM

Originally Posted By: EstebanBugatti
Originally Posted By: appyhawk
#2 recruit in Kansas worth a "neat deal"?
Blue Valley's Emery, 3*** DE, commits.
I don't know much about the source, but the article includes some interesting ranking info on team recruiting: http://ow.ly/uhi750bZjcm

Pretty sure he got one back when he committed. lol
I'm sorry but 247 has us currently (8/9/17)@ #56, not mid twenties. No cred for this guy (appyhawk, that is) for posting a JUNE article in AUGUST.
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 08/09/17 12:28 AM

Originally Posted By: appyhawk
#2 recruit in Kansas worth a "neat deal"?
Blue Valley's Emery, 3*** DE, commits.
I don't know much about the source, but the article includes some interesting ranking info on team recruiting: http://ow.ly/uhi750bZjcm
Ranking is "fake news" today, notso_appy. #56 tonight (The article isn't from August). Source for rankings, 247.

Try not ignoring so much!

Edit: Looking at the latest team rankings recruiting 2018 247, it shows us at #60!! Sinking some more as of 081817...After all, 2017 ended with a 247 gray box natl ranking in the #80's for Kansas.
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 08/23/17 07:47 PM

247 latest team rankings for 2018 has Kansas at 55 and graybox at 62. Downward trend continues. 2017 ultimate ranking was 82, I believe. I don't like to remind but if I recall, salaries were adjusted contracts lengthened based off many factors. One was that we were recruiting a top 10 class.
Posted by: 58hawk

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 08/23/17 10:37 PM

Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
247 latest team rankings for 2018 has Kansas at 55 and graybox at 62. Downward trend continues. 2017 ultimate ranking was 82, I believe. I don't like to remind but if I recall, salaries were adjusted contracts lengthened based off many factors. One was that we were recruiting a top 10 class.
Source?
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 08/23/17 11:55 PM

"247"
Posted by: 58hawk

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 08/24/17 02:10 PM

By source I meant that the salaries are based on recruiting a top 10 class.
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 08/24/17 03:54 PM

By 247 I meant that was my source for recruiting "improvement". Contract/salary changes were reported by the LJW.

You think it was due to 2-22 record? Lol
Posted by: Kman_blue

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 08/24/17 07:36 PM

Uh oh, looks like another unicorn popped up, but this time in the NFL somewhere.

Dennis Dodd‏Verified account @dennisdoddcbs

NFL source: "If there's one place that's progressing, doing good things it's ... Kansas." Loves David Beaty.
2:16 PM - 24 Aug 2017

From twitter.
Posted by: 58hawk

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 08/25/17 04:13 PM

Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
By 247 I meant that was my source for recruiting "improvement". Contract/salary changes were reported by the LJW.

You think it was due to 2-22 record? Lol
But you still haven't proven your point that salaries/contracts were partially based on top 10 recruiting classes.
Posted by: moose1

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 08/25/17 04:49 PM

Don't feed the troll.
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 08/25/17 07:55 PM

Originally Posted By: moose1
Don't feed the troll.
Idon't mind as long as I help posters/readers here judge things critically.
Posted by: schmuck34

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 08/30/17 05:09 PM

Did Devonta Jason decommit? He is releasing a top schools list according to his Twitter.
Posted by: Kman_blue

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 08/31/17 01:05 AM

Originally Posted By: schmuck34
Did Devonta Jason decommit? He is releasing a top schools list according to his Twitter.
No, or at least the coaches haven't been told so by him if he did, but I don't think he has from everything I've heard.

He's done this before and it's the norm for recruits as highly rated as he is. They commit, but still take visits and list top schools etc. like they didn't commit. It happens more often than not with these top rated guys at all schools.

I think they like the attention, as well as the opportunity to see different parts of the country for free. It's an extremely exciting time for them, as it would be for any HS player in their shoes, and they're enjoying it as much as they can. There's a ton of schools after these type recruits and a ton of pressure too. I think sometimes they have trouble saying "no" to schools in addition to taking advantage of the situation and excitement to go see several different schools/areas.

I don't like it because even if the recruit is convinced they're 100% committed and they're still taking visits and listening to other schools it gives those other schools plenty of chances to try and change their minds. Sometimes the pressure gets to them too and they flip to another school because they don't know how to handle that kind of on the spot type intense pressure. It'd be very difficult for almost any HS player to tell a bunch of adults who are pressuring the hell out of you on the spot to flip, "no" and sometimes guys cave in those situations. Sometimes they legitimately change their minds too, but either way those other schools wouldn't have nearly as much of a chance to do this if the recruit shut down their recruitment once they committed.

I don't blame the recruits for doing any of this. At that age, if I was recruited as heavily as they are, I don't know what I'd do for sure. I think I know, but never having been in that position I'm not so sure I'd have enough moral fortitude or mental strength to stand up to it all at that point in my life.
Posted by: schmuck34

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 08/31/17 02:06 AM

Yeah I get it. I was once a recruit (although 15 years ago and not at his level).
Posted by: Goober

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 08/31/17 09:19 PM

Originally Posted By: schmuck34
Yeah I get it. I was once a recruit (although 15 years ago and not at his level).

Me too. Shortly after leather helmets, lol. But, it really is flattering to be wanted. Wined and dined. Introduced at the home game. Red carpet treatment is a lot of fun!
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 09/01/17 06:00 PM

Originally Posted By: schmuck34
Yeah I get it. I was once a recruit (although 15 years ago and not at his level).
waterboy?
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 09/01/17 06:02 PM

Originally Posted By: Goober
Originally Posted By: schmuck34
Yeah I get it. I was once a recruit (although 15 years ago and not at his level).

Me too. Shortly after leather helmets, lol. But, it really is flattering to be wanted. Wined and dined. Introduced at the home game. Red carpet treatment is a lot of fun!
asst waterboy?
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 09/01/17 06:09 PM

I just complimented Schmuck!! Zing
Posted by: schmuck34

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 09/01/17 06:30 PM

Actually linebacker kookoo and now I'm a competitive bodybuilder and powerlifter so if you wanna meet up at the game lemme know wink
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 09/01/17 06:40 PM

Whoa whoa whoa. Timeout there, feller.

The official fightin' meetin' place is behind the QuickTrip. Board rules.

Don't you go try to do no circumbending of the rules, pal.
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 09/01/17 10:14 PM

Half time at the parking lot is AOK dipshit
Posted by: schmuck34

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 09/02/17 01:14 AM

Lol Dgless. 16ish hours to game time!
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 09/02/17 09:38 AM

Originally Posted By: schmuck34
Lol Dgless. 16ish hours to game time!
You won't be parking cars or selling soda there, right?
Posted by: Jman1

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 09/02/17 10:14 AM

Kick his ass Seabass
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 09/02/17 11:34 AM

Someone better get this on video.

Make sure to yell out "WORLDSTAR!" right as schmuck34 starts beating his ass.
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 09/02/17 01:05 PM

Originally Posted By: dgless21
Someone better get this on video.

Make sure to yell out "WORLDSTAR!" right as schmuck34 starts beating his ass.
I got a poster made up, will be holding it up. Poster says "schmuk is a f**k". Half time parking lot A.
Posted by: bigdogjac

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 09/02/17 01:11 PM

Wish I could be there. Maybe e better match up than the game. LOL
Posted by: Jman1

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 09/02/17 02:21 PM

The Rumble in the Jungle. Oh, wait. sorry, the Time To Pay in Lot A
Posted by: Jman1

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 09/02/17 02:26 PM

Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
Originally Posted By: dgless21
Someone better get this on video.

Make sure to yell out "WORLDSTAR!" right as schmuck34 starts beating his ass.
I got a poster made up, will be holding it up. Poster says "schmuk is a f**k". Half time parking lot A.


Better get the word out to EMS and the local hospital that KooKoo and his sign will be showing up at halftime. Though the sign will need to have surgical removal from his colon
Posted by: schmuck34

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 09/02/17 04:45 PM

Lol I love how serious kookoo is taking this, I even decided to look at his posts for once. That's a first for a very long time for me. In real news, Rock Chalk!
Posted by: schmuck34

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 09/02/17 04:46 PM

Lots of visitors today looking over Twitter.
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 09/02/17 04:59 PM

They're just here to see you open a case of whoop ass on KUCO.
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 09/02/17 09:49 PM

Originally Posted By: dgless21
They're just here to see you open a case of whoop ass on KUCO.
I was there, no smuk. Didn't show up so I "was spared a case".
Posted by: schmuck34

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 09/03/17 02:11 PM

I'll be there against CMU. So if you feel like meeting me you can. Any real news Dgless or kman?
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 09/03/17 02:32 PM

Originally Posted By: schmuck34
I'll be there against CMU. So if you feel like meeting me you can. Any real news Dgless or kman?
The news is you were spared a whippun'. And we have no running game b/c o-line is not good.
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 09/03/17 03:52 PM

Originally Posted By: schmuck34
I'll be there against CMU. So if you feel like meeting me you can. Any real news Dgless or kman?


I've been with friends and family most of the weekend.

Some visitors I've heard without links:
Cooper Beebe
Shakespeare Williams
Graham Mertz
Marcus Hicks
Ikenna Enechukwu
Billy Maples
Tate Raboin
Jayden Russell
Scott Valentas
Posted by: schmuck34

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 09/11/17 10:51 AM

Charles Cameron just decomitted.
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 09/11/17 10:59 AM

Originally Posted By: schmuck34
Charles Cameron just decomitted.
Must have seen the coaching chops this last weekend.
Posted by: PbBut

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 09/11/17 12:19 PM

Not surprising considering Saturday, the kid is a Juco and he needs to put himself in a position to win now, not three years from now. The number one thing athletes like to do...win. As a DT he must surely think he can win a spot in the rotation on this team. But he'd like to win at the same time.
Posted by: Kman_blue

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 09/11/17 01:19 PM

With how the first 2 games have gone and with how very quiet things have been on the recruiting front for the past 2 months, I won't be surprised if this is just 1 of a few more.

The coaches better get their asses in gear and go out and get the guys they can get instead of waiting on some hopefuls IMHO. Cause I don't think the hopefuls we had legit shots at before the season are going to be legit shots for us much longer unless we really figure some things out soon.
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 09/11/17 03:50 PM

The staff got raises so no more motivation to do anything. BTW the team rankings in 2018 recruiting seem rather anemic.

Fans like winning too, kman
Posted by: schmuck34

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 09/12/17 12:45 PM

Lolohea decomitted.
Posted by: Kman_blue

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 09/12/17 12:52 PM

Originally Posted By: schmuck34
Charles Cameron just decomitted.
And to be expected his best friend/teammate Lolohea also decommitted. Those 2 are a package deal so it's not surprising.

Still puts more pressure on our coaches to get on it in recruiting as much as they need to get on it in the coaching department.

This thing is snowballing right before their eyes and they've got to come up with a way to put a halt to it if they wanna be our coaches by the end of next season still.

Winning games fixes everything, but if the vague rumors about a bunch of guys maybe being in effect gone from the team (or at least suspended indefinitely depending on which version you hear) because of disciplinary action that may be a tougher thing to do than before. If there's any truth to that, then they're going to have to be creative as hell to come up with a solution.
Posted by: EstebanBugatti

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 09/12/17 01:27 PM

Originally Posted By: Kman_blue
Originally Posted By: schmuck34
Charles Cameron just decomitted.
And to be expected his best friend/teammate Lolohea also decommitted. Those 2 are a package deal so it's not surprising.

Still puts more pressure on our coaches to get on it in recruiting as much as they need to get on it in the coaching department.

This thing is snowballing right before their eyes and they've got to come up with a way to put a halt to it if they wanna be our coaches by the end of next season still.

Winning games fixes everything, but if the vague rumors about a bunch of guys maybe being in effect gone from the team (or at least suspended indefinitely depending on which version you hear) because of disciplinary action that may be a tougher thing to do than before. If there's any truth to that, then they're going to have to be creative as hell to come up with a solution.

I'm sure a lot more will end up suspended or off the team before the year is up. Pretty sure Charles Baldwin is one of the new ones. I'm gonna guess that he called out the coaches for leaving Frazier in to be abused by CMU and the coaches didn't like hearing the truth.
Posted by: moose1

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 09/12/17 02:13 PM

Originally Posted By: Kman_blue
Originally Posted By: schmuck34
Charles Cameron just decomitted.
And to be expected his best friend/teammate Lolohea also decommitted. Those 2 are a package deal so it's not surprising.

Still puts more pressure on our coaches to get on it in recruiting as much as they need to get on it in the coaching department.

This thing is snowballing right before their eyes and they've got to come up with a way to put a halt to it if they wanna be our coaches by the end of next season still.

Winning games fixes everything, but if the vague rumors about a bunch of guys maybe being in effect gone from the team (or at least suspended indefinitely depending on which version you hear) because of disciplinary action that may be a tougher thing to do than before. If there's any truth to that, then they're going to have to be creative as hell to come up with a solution.


Things appear to be getting away from them in a hurry. They better get it corrected against Ohio or it may be the end. If a bunch of guys get suspended, and things go from bad to worse they are done.

I know some people will say it is not the coaches fault that the kids got suspended, but if it is a big enough issue the school will say it is a lack of institutional control and clean house.

Not looking good for Beaty or KU football. I still contend they are cursed.
Posted by: track

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 09/12/17 02:19 PM

Originally Posted By: moose1
Originally Posted By: Kman_blue
Originally Posted By: schmuck34
Charles Cameron just decomitted.
And to be expected his best friend/teammate Lolohea also decommitted. Those 2 are a package deal so it's not surprising.

Still puts more pressure on our coaches to get on it in recruiting as much as they need to get on it in the coaching department.

This thing is snowballing right before their eyes and they've got to come up with a way to put a halt to it if they wanna be our coaches by the end of next season still.

Winning games fixes everything, but if the vague rumors about a bunch of guys maybe being in effect gone from the team (or at least suspended indefinitely depending on which version you hear) because of disciplinary action that may be a tougher thing to do than before. If there's any truth to that, then they're going to have to be creative as hell to come up with a solution.


Things appear to be getting away from them in a hurry. They better get it corrected against Ohio or it may be the end. If a bunch of guys get suspended, and things go from bad to worse they are done.

I know some people will say it is not the coaches fault that the kids got suspended, but if it is a big enough issue the school will say it is a lack of institutional control and clean house.

Not looking good for Beaty or KU football. I still contend they are cursed.

Lots of talk here about multiple suspensions and now more suspensions are on the horizon? Sounds like a bunch of fans looking for excuses. ..and making stuff up .... unless someone can confirm multiple suspensions have taken place recently. ???????
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 09/12/17 03:30 PM

That's some calling out kman and dgless, track.
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 09/12/17 04:15 PM

Call me out. I have no issues with that. Random whiners on the internet can call me out as often as they'd like.

I haven't suggested suspensions, and I haven't made a single excuse.

I do my part, I buy my tickets, I go to the games, I sit in my seats.

I still want Beaty. I still expect him to get 4 full years like he should.

Zenger needs to go. Nothing should be done until that happens. No matter what you pout about, it's on Zenger. No AD gets 3 chances to hire and fire a coach due to performance, and he has yet to prove that his renovations are real life.
Posted by: track

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 09/12/17 05:24 PM

I think we are overreacting a little with one game. As homers it's perfectly normal to get excited at that start of a new season and have high expectations. The season isn't over... it just started. Beaty isn't going anywhere until at least 2019... he just got an extension. Zenger isn't going anywhere either. ... he is launching stadium renovation in a month. We just need something positive to happen. ...,like a win.
Posted by: PbBut

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 09/12/17 05:56 PM

I would agree, if it was just one game. But, unless "track" is the screen name for Rip Van Winkle, this has been going on for several years.

I think the people here will calm down if we come out and make good showing on Saturday, then you might be able to say "one game...". But if Ohio ends up being another curb stomping, you ain't heard nothing yet.

As for Zenger, I believe we can all say if we were "for or against" the hiring of Weis and Beaty. We can second guess all we want but in the end we want them to succeed. Zenger can't second guess, he's paid to get it right. At this point regarding football, the term "miserable failure" would be a promotion for Dr. Zenger.
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 09/12/17 06:23 PM

Originally Posted By: PbBut
I would agree, if it was just one game. But, unless "track" is the screen name for Rip Van Winkle, this has been going on for several years.

I think the people here will calm down if we come out and make good showing on Saturday, then you might be able to say "one game...". But if Ohio ends up being another curb stomping, you ain't heard nothing yet.

As for Zenger, I believe we can all say if we were "for or against" the hiring of Weis and Beaty. We can second guess all we want but in the end we want them to succeed. Zenger can't second guess, he's paid to get it right. At this point regarding football, the term "miserable failure" would be a promotion for Dr. Zenger.
track says its only a game. 20% of our 2018 class quit right after it. Fans abandoned the team 2nd half. Only one game.
Posted by: track

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 09/12/17 07:40 PM

B
Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
Originally Posted By: PbBut
I would agree, if it was just one game. But, unless "track" is the screen name for Rip Van Winkle, this has been going on for several years.

I think the people here will calm down if we come out and make good showing on Saturday, then you might be able to say "one game...". But if Ohio ends up being another curb stomping, you ain't heard nothing yet.

As for Zenger, I believe we can all say if we were "for or against" the hiring of Weis and Beaty. We can second guess all we want but in the end we want them to succeed. Zenger can't second guess, he's paid to get it right. At this point regarding football, the term "miserable failure" would be a promotion for Dr. Zenger.
track says its only a game. 20% of our 2018 class quit right after it. Fans abandoned the team 2nd half. Only one game.
Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
Originally Posted By: PbBut
I would agree, if it was just one game. But, unless "track" is the screen name for Rip Van Winkle, this has been going on for several years.

I think the people here will calm down if we come out and make good showing on Saturday, then you might be able to say "one game...". But if Ohio ends up being another curb stomping, you ain't heard nothing yet.

As for Zenger, I believe we can all say if we were "for or against" the hiring of Weis and Beaty. We can second guess all we want but in the end we want them to succeed. Zenger can't second guess, he's paid to get it right. At this point regarding football, the term "miserable failure" would be a promotion for Dr. Zenger.
track says its only a game. 20% of our 2018 class quit right after it. Fans abandoned the team 2nd half. Only one game.
Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
Originally Posted By: PbBut
I would agree, if it was just one game. But, unless "track" is the screen name for Rip Van Winkle, this has been going on for several years.

I think the people here will calm down if we come out and make good showing on Saturday, then you might be able to say "one game...". But if Ohio ends up being another curb stomping, you ain't heard nothing yet.

As for Zenger, I believe we can all say if we were "for or against" the hiring of Weis and Beaty. We can second guess all we want but in the end we want them to succeed. Zenger can't second guess, he's paid to get it right. At this point regarding football, the term "miserable failure" would be a promotion for Dr. Zenger.
track says its only a game. 20% of our 2018 class quit right after it. Fans abandoned the team 2nd half. Only one game.

Prior to the game most were optimistic and figuring a 2-0 start. After the game nothing but gloom and doom. That one game changed the atmosphere around here from hopeful to depressed.. that's one friggen game you idiot. .. it changed everything. A win Saturday will change it back... and so it goes for ku football where wins are few and far between
Posted by: 58hawk

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 09/12/17 07:42 PM

KUCO wants Beaty fired so he loves it when we lose...
Posted by: Hot_Toddy

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 09/13/17 09:22 AM

My sources say it is not discipline related but offensive lineman Cameron Durley is no longer on the team.
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 09/13/17 09:41 AM

He was out for the year with a medical issue...but not great.
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 09/13/17 10:07 AM

Originally Posted By: 58hawk
KUCO wants Beaty fired so he loves it when we lose...
KUCO wants wins by Kansas football program. Hate losing...
Posted by: Kman_blue

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 09/13/17 12:43 PM

Originally Posted By: track
Prior to the game most were optimistic and figuring a 2-0 start. After the game nothing but gloom and doom. That one game changed the atmosphere around here from hopeful to depressed.. that's one friggen game you idiot. .. it changed everything. A win Saturday will change it back... and so it goes for ku football where wins are few and far between
Track, you got some kind of triple quote thing going on. Not sure how you're posting but for some reason when you quote something it does it in triplicate.

For me, I started to lose optimism after the 1st game. I saw too many things that got me worried despite the W. The CMU game confirmed those worries and has now got me pessimistic about the rest of the season. I hope you're right about it being a 1 game hiccup as this is still a very young team and they can do things like that, but I won't be convinced until I see some big improvements against Ohio.

We lost handily at home against a lower tier MAC team and now we're going to play a MAC title contender at their place. Doesn't look good on paper for our chances, but I'll still hold out hope and watch the game.

I really hope we play a good game this Saturday, win or lose, as it can and probably will have an impact on our recruiting. No matter how bad or good the rest of this season goes, coach Beaty will still be our HC in 2018 and if he does or doesn't get fired after 2018, these recruits will be on our roster and that'll be crucial for the immediate future of the program. So, I really hope this team figures things out and makes a good showing the rest of the year.
Posted by: Kman_blue

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 09/13/17 12:45 PM

Originally Posted By: Hot_Toddy
My sources say it is not discipline related but offensive lineman Cameron Durley is no longer on the team.
Heard he quit football due to medical reasons. That was the last I heard though and the first I heard a month or two earlier was he chose to sit out from football for 1 year due to medical issues and planned on resuming football after that, but maybe not at KU.
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 09/13/17 01:44 PM

Originally Posted By: Kman_blue
Originally Posted By: Hot_Toddy
My sources say it is not discipline related but offensive lineman Cameron Durley is no longer on the team.
Heard he quit football due to medical reasons. That was the last I heard though and the first I heard a month or two earlier was he chose to sit out from football for 1 year due to medical issues and planned on resuming football after that, but maybe not at KU.
The Kansas football program is circling the wagons around Beaty, for one last bloody stand and fight. Win, lose or draw, Beaty has until the end of this season to make some magic happen. Problem is, he hasn't got a history of doing just that at this level of football.
Posted by: Magicman

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 09/13/17 01:50 PM

Originally Posted By: Kman_blue
Originally Posted By: track
Prior to the game most were optimistic and figuring a 2-0 start. After the game nothing but gloom and doom. That one game changed the atmosphere around here from hopeful to depressed.. that's one friggen game you idiot. .. it changed everything. A win Saturday will change it back... and so it goes for ku football where wins are few and far between
Track, you got some kind of triple quote thing going on. Not sure how you're posting but for some reason when you quote something it does it in triplicate.

For me, I started to lose optimism after the 1st game. I saw too many things that got me worried despite the W. The CMU game confirmed those worries and has now got me pessimistic about the rest of the season. I hope you're right about it being a 1 game hiccup as this is still a very young team and they can do things like that, but I won't be convinced until I see some big improvements against Ohio.

We lost handily at home against a lower tier MAC team and now we're going to play a MAC title contender at their place. Doesn't look good on paper for our chances, but I'll still hold out hope and watch the game.

I really hope we play a good game this Saturday, win or lose, as it can and probably will have an impact on our recruiting. No matter how bad or good the rest of this season goes, coach Beaty will still be our HC in 2018 and if he does or doesn't get fired after 2018, these recruits will be on our roster and that'll be crucial for the immediate future of the program. So, I really hope this team figures things out and makes a good showing the rest of the year.

Kman, the thing that stood out the most to me was our lack of urgency or fire. I, still think that we've improved on our talent, but it looks like we're just going through the motions. I watched the Oklahoma game and they were unbelievably aggressive and relentless. They play with a bunch of swag and are very confident. I don't see that with KUFB right now! It seems like we're playing on our heels. Play like your hair's on fire, you have nothing to lose!!!
Posted by: track

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 09/13/17 01:56 PM

Originally Posted By: Kman_blue
Originally Posted By: track
Prior to the game most were optimistic and figuring a 2-0 start. After the game nothing but gloom and doom. That one game changed the atmosphere around here from hopeful to depressed.. that's one friggen game you idiot. .. it changed everything. A win Saturday will change it back... and so it goes for ku football where wins are few and far between
Track, you got some kind of triple quote thing going on. Not sure how you're posting but for some reason when you quote something it does it in triplicate.

For me, I started to lose optimism after the 1st game. I saw too many things that got me worried despite the W. The CMU game confirmed those worries and has now got me pessimistic about the rest of the season. I hope you're right about it being a 1 game hiccup as this is still a very young team and they can do things like that, but I won't be convinced until I see some big improvements against Ohio.

We lost handily at home against a lower tier MAC team and now we're going to play a MAC title contender at their place. Doesn't look good on paper for our chances, but I'll still hold out hope and watch the game.

I really hope we play a good game this Saturday, win or lose, as it can and probably will have an impact on our recruiting. No matter how bad or good the rest of this season goes, coach Beaty will still be our HC in 2018 and if he does or doesn't get fired after 2018, these recruits will be on our roster and that'll be crucial for the immediate future of the program. So, I really hope this team figures things out and makes a good showing the rest of the year.

The triple think must be an iphone thing..it does weird stuff sometimes.I will try it from the computer.
I feel the same as you....extremely hopeful but not overly optimistic about the rest of the season. This weekend is a huge test.
Posted by: pizzanbeer

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 09/13/17 04:34 PM

There is a flip side to the the loss to CMU for recruiting. If we have wishy washy verbal commits then they will drop off early like Cameron and Lolohea. The CMU loss is a gut check for the recruits just like it is for fans and everyone else. It's better to lose them now when we still have plenty of time to recruit other players than right before signing day.

Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 09/13/17 06:50 PM

Originally Posted By: pizzanbeer
There is a flip side to the the loss to CMU for recruiting. If we have wishy washy verbal commits then they will drop off early like Cameron and Lolohea. The CMU loss is a gut check for the recruits just like it is for fans and everyone else. It's better to lose them now when we still have plenty of time to recruit other players than right before signing day.

Unfortunately it gives potential recruits a look at what level our current staff is at. Not good.
Posted by: Kman_blue

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 09/13/17 11:32 PM

Originally Posted By: pizzanbeer
There is a flip side to the the loss to CMU for recruiting. If we have wishy washy verbal commits then they will drop off early like Cameron and Lolohea. The CMU loss is a gut check for the recruits just like it is for fans and everyone else. It's better to lose them now when we still have plenty of time to recruit other players than right before signing day.

Good point, but the recruits could have been more solid on KU and then we lose a game at home we're expected to win and that's what made them wishy washy. If they bought what the coaches told them back when they committed and that was in part we're going to be a much better football team this year and now the early results seem to contradict that, it could certainly cause recruits to change their mind. Just a thought.

But on a weird note, I've since heard that Cameron is going to be hit or miss academically which in the end could make his decommitment somewhat moot as he may not qualify.
Posted by: Kman_blue

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 09/13/17 11:38 PM

Another worrying thing to me is that it's been crickets on the recruiting front since early July. Haven't heard a thing about the guys who visited during our 1st game. Nothing at all. Also have heard we had no official visitors set up for this past weekend. Maybe that turned out to be a good thing.

I know this is going to be a smaller class because of all the blueshirts/grayshirts we had last year, but I still expect us to have about 20 official commitments. Kind of getting a bit nervous that we're only about 1/2 way there right now. Still plenty of time to fill it out, but the clock is a tickin.
Posted by: namohcan_99

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 09/16/17 02:53 PM

Originally Posted By: Kman_blue
Another worrying thing to me is that it's been crickets on the recruiting front since early July. Haven't heard a thing about the guys who visited during our 1st game. Nothing at all. Also have heard we had no official visitors set up for this past weekend. Maybe that turned out to be a good thing.

I know this is going to be a smaller class because of all the blueshirts/grayshirts we had last year, but I still expect us to have about 20 official commitments. Kind of getting a bit nervous that we're only about 1/2 way there right now. Still plenty of time to fill it out, but the clock is a tickin.


Maybe playing time isn't a strong enough motivator for kids who want to win? If our recruiting has been good, it isn't translating on the field thus far, and the statements from the coaches after the loss to Central Michigan blaming the loss of their seniors is a bad sign for this point in time in Beaty's tenure as head coach. We shouldn't be a 1 or 2 win team but that's what we'll be projected at for the rest of the season. The last 6 games of the season, it'll be MUCH harder to sell recruits when we are getting stomped by strong Big XII opponents.
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 09/16/17 04:31 PM

Hard to sell recruiting when you can't coach them up.
Posted by: Jman1

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 09/16/17 04:50 PM

Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
Hard to sell recruiting when you can't coach them up.


Hard to sell recruiting when you can't coach(FYP)
Posted by: PbBut

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 09/16/17 05:31 PM

Kids want to play, but few of them are willing to give up winning for playing time if they feel they will get a fair chance down the road. Alabama isn't losing many top ranked kids because they won't start as true freshmen.
Posted by: INation

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 09/21/17 03:04 PM

Kids at Alabama will get a better shot at the NFL by playing 1 or 2 years there than they will at Kansas playing 4. Why go to Kansas, play 4 years and win maybe 5 games in your career when you can go to Alabama, play a year or two and have a chance at National Titles every year.
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 09/21/17 03:25 PM

...and have been taught proper techniques to block and tackle at Alabama.
Posted by: 58hawk

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 09/21/17 10:15 PM

Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
...and have been taught proper techniques to block and tackle at Alabama.
Yeah that sure worked with our transfers.
Posted by: bigdogjac

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 09/21/17 10:34 PM

I have to call that BS. Unless they are a superstar they probably won't see the field much until year 3.
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 09/25/17 02:17 PM

Corione Harris and Devonta Jason visited (again) this weekend (unofficial visits).
Posted by: Kman_blue

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 10/03/17 12:20 PM

Kelvin Joseph decommitted from LSU.

Hearing KU is in the mix for him.

Think we'll get an official visit from him, but that's just a guess as nothing has been set up.
Posted by: Magicman

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 10/03/17 01:07 PM

I would love to get Joseph and keep the rest of our commits! When you're in our situation, it all starts with recruiting athletes that can compete in the Big 12!
Posted by: Kman_blue

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 10/13/17 09:53 AM

Posted this in the "Unpopular Message" thread but thought it deserves to be posted here too as it's directly related to our 2018 recruiting.

Heard OU recently offered current KU commit, Anthony 'Pooka' Williams.

Also heard he's still 100% committed to KU.

I think this kid is really under the radar in terms of the recruiting websites. He's got offers from LSU, OU, Texas and a bunch others but is ranked a medium level 3 star on Rivals and most other sites.

Jason and Harris rightfully get most of the attention, but I think Pooka is right there with them in terms of talent.

Nice to see a recruit this committed to KU and still picking us over OU for once.
Posted by: Kman_blue

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 10/13/17 11:59 PM

Just heard Najee Stevens-McKenzie a high 3 star(highest 3 star rating according to Rivals) 6'4" 220lbs DE from ASA JUCO in Brooklyn, NY committed to KU.

He chose KU over schools like Maryland, Pittsburgh, mizzery, and our foe tomorrow Iowa St.
Posted by: Kman_blue

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 10/14/17 12:10 AM

Also, just heard he's a December grad, which helps out a lot.
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 10/18/17 10:26 AM

Originally Posted By: Kman_blue
Just heard Najee Stevens-McKenzie a high 3 star(highest 3 star rating according to Rivals) 6'4" 220lbs DE from ASA JUCO in Brooklyn, NY committed to KU.

He chose KU over schools like Maryland, Pittsburgh, mizzery, and our foe tomorrow Iowa St.
Some class calc thing, I suppose, but 247 has our 2018 recruiting team ranking sinking to #72 overall.
Posted by: 58hawk

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 10/18/17 04:31 PM

53rd per Rivals.
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 10/18/17 04:40 PM

Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
Originally Posted By: Kman_blue
Just heard Najee Stevens-McKenzie a high 3 star(highest 3 star rating according to Rivals) 6'4" 220lbs DE from ASA JUCO in Brooklyn, NY committed to KU.

He chose KU over schools like Maryland, Pittsburgh, mizzery, and our foe tomorrow Iowa St.
Some class calc thing, I suppose, but 247 has our 2018 recruiting team ranking sinking to #72 overall.
And it’s another JUCO. Get 4 year dudes.
Posted by: Kman_blue

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 10/18/17 09:12 PM

Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
Some class calc thing, I suppose, but 247 has our 2018 recruiting team ranking sinking to #72 overall.
They still haven't included our latest commitment. Najee Stevens-McKenzie. 247 is doing a crappy job right now as he committed about a week ago already. Their rankings as such aren't accurate.

class calculator tool here and add him to our commitments and you'll see our accurate class score at 24/7 is 150.92, which would be #60 according to them.

It'd be like them leaving out Devon Dotson from KU's bball commitment list. It's not accurate or correct even by their own standards.
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 10/18/17 09:53 PM

Originally Posted By: Kman_blue
Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
Some class calc thing, I suppose, but 247 has our 2018 recruiting team ranking sinking to #72 overall.
They still haven't included our latest commitment. Najee Stevens-McKenzie. 247 is doing a crappy job right now as he committed about a week ago already. Their rankings as such aren't accurate.

class calculator tool here and add him to our commitments and you'll see our accurate class score at 24/7 is 150.92, which would be #60 according to them.

It'd be like them leaving out Devon Dotson from KU's bball commitment list. It's not accurate or correct even by their own standards.
And I attached something you omitted so you look better...
Posted by: 58hawk

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 10/18/17 10:23 PM

I use 247 as toilet paper...
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 10/18/17 10:39 PM

Originally Posted By: 58hawk
I use 247 as toilet paper...
It's not toilet paper you boob...
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 10/19/17 11:08 AM

Offered a QB out of Riverside Community College.

Not exactly sure why based on our roster, but what do I know.

Vic Viramontes. 6'1", 230, originally committed to Cal out of HS.
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 10/19/17 04:46 PM

Another Juco?
Posted by: Kman_blue

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 10/20/17 08:03 AM

Originally Posted By: dgless21
Offered a QB out of Riverside Community College.

Not exactly sure why based on our roster, but what do I know.

Vic Viramontes. 6'1", 230, originally committed to Cal out of HS.
Think he's a December grad and a 3x2 guy.

This smells like Meacham's doing. This guy seems to fit a lot better with what kind of O Meacham wants to run than any of our current QB's, though Starks is kind of a mystery still. I guess they don't think he's going to get there or at least not anytime soon.
Posted by: Kman_blue

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 10/20/17 08:30 AM

Originally Posted By: 58hawk
I use 247 as toilet paper...
Just to further illustrate how they've been slipping some lately is this.

ISU just got a commitment from an OLB out of OH yesterday which somehow catapulted ISU up to the #25 class in the nation and #4 class in the Big 12 because on the team rankings list 24/7 gave him a rating of 1.2644 which is the highest score I've ever seen for any player and puts him as the highest 5 star recruit in 24/7 history I believe. Didn't check, but I think their ratings are only supposed to go to 1.0000 even. But when you click on the player's bio page, his real rating is 0.8366 which is a low 3 star and has him as the 83rd best OLB and #1209 ranked player overall in the country.

24/7 still doesn't have KU's latest commitment and it's been a week now.

24/7 has some problems going on it appears.
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 10/20/17 10:12 AM

Originally Posted By: Kman_blue
Originally Posted By: 58hawk
I use 247 as toilet paper...
Just to further illustrate how they've been slipping some lately is this.

ISU just got a commitment from an OLB out of OH yesterday which somehow catapulted ISU up to the #25 class in the nation and #4 class in the Big 12 because on the team rankings list 24/7 gave him a rating of 1.2644 which is the highest score I've ever seen for any player and puts him as the highest 5 star recruit in 24/7 history I believe. Didn't check, but I think their ratings are only supposed to go to 1.0000 even. But when you click on the player's bio page, his real rating is 0.8366 which is a low 3 star and has him as the 83rd best OLB and #1209 ranked player overall in the country.

24/7 still doesn't have KU's latest commitment and it's been a week now.

24/7 has some problems going on it appears.
Sure, let's attack the messenger (247) as I'm sure we all agree...#72 2018 team football recruiting ranking for Kansas as of a few days ago.
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 10/20/17 10:15 AM

Originally Posted By: Kman_blue
Originally Posted By: dgless21
Offered a QB out of Riverside Community College.

Not exactly sure why based on our roster, but what do I know.

Vic Viramontes. 6'1", 230, originally committed to Cal out of HS.
Think he's a December grad and a 3x2 guy.

This smells like Meacham's doing. This guy seems to fit a lot better with what kind of O Meacham wants to run than any of our current QB's, though Starks is kind of a mystery still. I guess they don't think he's going to get there or at least not anytime soon.
Biggest disappointment is that it's another Juco which never sounds like desperation.
Posted by: Magicman

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 10/20/17 10:53 AM

Originally Posted By: Kman_blue
Originally Posted By: dgless21
Offered a QB out of Riverside Community College.

Not exactly sure why based on our roster, but what do I know.

Vic Viramontes. 6'1", 230, originally committed to Cal out of HS.
Think he's a December grad and a 3x2 guy.

This smells like Meacham's doing. This guy seems to fit a lot better with what kind of O Meacham wants to run than any of our current QB's, though Starks is kind of a mystery still. I guess they don't think he's going to get there or at least not anytime soon.

I realize that it's a highlight tape, and everyone looks good on those. But, the kid has good size, a strong arm and runs really well. It looks like he has the physical tools to be a player for us. The coaches must like his mental make-up and leadership qualities.
Posted by: Kman_blue

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 10/20/17 07:31 PM

Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
Sure, let's attack the messenger (247) as I'm sure we all agree...#72 2018 team football recruiting ranking for Kansas as of a few days ago.
They aren't delivering an honest message right now.Their current ratings have a lot of mistakes and omissions among many teams, not just KU and ISU. I'm not attacking their methods or ratings, but rather their blatant mistakes which have gone unchecked for weeks in some cases.

I don't know if they've had a shakeup or what is going on over there, but the quality of their product has slipped a bit lately.

You can keep purposefully repeating their mistake all you want, but all it does is make you look more like a liar because you know it's not correct yet still repeat it ad nauseam. Why aren't you touting ISU getting the highest rated 5 star OLB in the history of 24/7 too? He's only the #1209 ranked player in the country, but yet he's still the highest rated recruit in 24/7 history. That mistake too blatant for even you to keep repeating like a dumb parrot?
Posted by: Kman_blue

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 10/20/17 07:36 PM

Originally Posted By: Magicman
I realize that it's a highlight tape, and everyone looks good on those. But, the kid has good size, a strong arm and runs really well. It looks like he has the physical tools to be a player for us. The coaches must like his mental make-up and leadership qualities.
Yeah, the kid is a big QB and he seems to like to punish tacklers a bit. I kind of like those kinds of guys as it inspires a lot of their teammates to make the extra effort too in my experience.
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 10/21/17 01:12 AM

Originally Posted By: Kman_blue
Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
Sure, let's attack the messenger (247) as I'm sure we all agree...#72 2018 team football recruiting ranking for Kansas as of a few days ago.
They aren't delivering an honest message right now.

You can keep purposefully repeating their mistake all you want, but all it does is make you look more like a liar because you know it's not correct yet still repeat it ad nauseam. Why aren't you touting ISU getting the highest rated 5 star OLB in the history of 24/7 too? He's only the #1209 ranked player in the country, but yet he's still the highest rated recruit in 24/7 history. That mistake too blatant for even you to keep repeating like a dumb parrot?
So I’m a liar, if I pass on accurate info about Kansas recruiting at a particular point in time, using a site dedicated to the topic? Just wow 😮
Even you admit Beaty isn’t cutting it on his strength of recruiting. But I’m a liar.
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 10/21/17 01:15 AM

kman - As far as ISU ranking reporting on 247 you have a problem, but why ask me about the player prospects for them? They can light up all the available methane out their backsides, I just don’t care about ISU problems. BTW, their second year HC is making real progress in Armpit, IO.

EDIT: On a 10-21-17 lookup of 247 site for ISU, they are ranked for 2018 recruiting at 58th, smart guy. And I don't see ANY 5 star mistake ranking. But Kansas is still ranked at #72 overall (my original ranking), including the 11th commitment!! So I conclude correctly that kman whistles out of his azz frequently to us all on this board...
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 10/21/17 10:28 AM

I'll give you some attention since that's all you're here for.

Najee Stevens-McKenzie has no rating from 247. That's why our composite ranking changed to 61 but the 247 ranking didn't change whatsoever.

You should try using your brain for once.

I would think with as much time as you spend over there that you'd know how the site works.

What's our ranking on Max Preps?
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 10/21/17 11:51 AM

Originally Posted By: dgless21
Najee Stevens-McKenzie has no rating from 247. That's why our composite ranking changed to 61 but the 247 ranking didn't change whatsoever.

You should try using your brain for once.

I would think with as much time as you spend over there that you'd know how the site works.

What's our ranking on Max Preps?
And so I looked it up, smart guy. All 11 guys have a ranking. Najee is LISTED at .8778 TODAY at 247. I used my brain instead of merely my fingertips to make a point on the board.

I can't take either you or kman anywhere.

EDIT: Make that there is only one place I know I could take you two. Burger King. Home of the WHOPPER.
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 10/21/17 12:35 PM

0.8778 is his composite ranking. His 247 and Scout ranks are "NA"

If you click the question mark next to 0.8778, you'll get a screen describing "The 247 Composite Rating"



Do better.
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 10/21/17 12:57 PM

I like that - Home of the Whopper.

I always do better. If you want to click on the ? why don't you do that for all of them...I don't have time.
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 10/21/17 01:04 PM

Yeah, it describes the 247 COMPOSITE rating, so that doesn't help you much.

Any other manufactured crap to support your faulty claims?
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 10/21/17 03:35 PM

Originally Posted By: dgless21
Yeah, it describes the 247 COMPOSITE rating, so that doesn't help you much.

Any other manufactured crap to support your faulty claims?
Sure a 3 Star Juco can pull KU up 10-12 numbers in the ranking? Nope
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 10/21/17 03:48 PM

247 says he's unrated. Are we using 247 as our source or not?
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 10/21/17 04:04 PM

Originally Posted By: dgless21
247 says he's unrated. Are we using 247 as our source or not?
I think I do need some homework assignments to keep up with the smart guys.
Posted by: dgless21

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 10/21/17 04:07 PM

You have that God given right to remain silent.

Maybe you should exercise that right from time to time when you don't know what you're talking about.
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 10/21/17 08:54 PM

Originally Posted By: dgless21
You have that God given right to remain silent.

Maybe you should exercise that right from time to time when you don't know what you're talking about.
I really cannot believe our recruiting ranking is as good as #72.
Posted by: EstebanBugatti

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 10/21/17 11:40 PM

Clayton Tune has re-opened his recruitment.
Posted by: Jaycat92

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 10/21/17 11:49 PM

If I were any of our recruits I would re-open and re-evaluate what this program is right now. Wouldn't most of us look at elsewhere to play with our legacy living standards on display tonight!!
Posted by: Jaycat92

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 10/21/17 11:52 PM

I honestly would go the Juco route hard and heavy if I was this staff with what is on this team currently. I would go heavy and big with Juco recruiting.

First find a Dual threat QB, 5 lineman, 3 wide outs, and 1 more running back. Thats jsut on offense

Defense I would find 2 Cb's, 2 Safeties, 4 linebackers and at least 3 lineman. Pretty good start right there.!!
Posted by: pizzanbeer

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 10/22/17 01:51 AM

NM did not see Estebans post about Tune.
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 10/22/17 06:32 AM

And with another decommit after the latest debacle , I am more sure we aren’t as good as #72. Per 247.
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 10/22/17 09:42 AM

Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
And with another decommit after the latest debacle , I am more sure we aren’t as good as [b]#72. Per 247.
Per 247 after the latest debacle, we are now at #80 team ranking composite score for 2018 with 10 commits.

I knew we weren't #72 for long...[/b]
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 10/22/17 03:37 PM

Originally Posted By: Kman_blue
Originally Posted By: Magicman
I realize that it's a highlight tape, and everyone looks good on those. But, the kid has good size, a strong arm and runs really well. It looks like he has the physical tools to be a player for us. The coaches must like his mental make-up and leadership qualities.
Yeah, the kid is a big QB and he seems to like to punish tacklers a bit. I kind of like those kinds of guys as it inspires a lot of their teammates to make the extra effort too in my experience.
Totally funny kman has zero comment on the latest game. Lol
Posted by: track

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 10/22/17 05:20 PM

Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
Originally Posted By: Kman_blue
Originally Posted By: Magicman
I realize that it's a highlight tape, and everyone looks good on those. But, the kid has good size, a strong arm and runs really well. It looks like he has the physical tools to be a player for us. The coaches must like his mental make-up and leadership qualities.
Yeah, the kid is a big QB and he seems to like to punish tacklers a bit. I kind of like those kinds of guys as it inspires a lot of their teammates to make the extra effort too in my experience.
Totally funny kman has zero comment on the latest game. Lol

Why do you have to post like an ahole?
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 10/22/17 05:44 PM

Originally Posted By: track
Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
Originally Posted By: Kman_blue
Originally Posted By: Magicman
I realize that it's a highlight tape, and everyone looks good on those. But, the kid has good size, a strong arm and runs really well. It looks like he has the physical tools to be a player for us. The coaches must like his mental make-up and leadership qualities.
Yeah, the kid is a big QB and he seems to like to punish tacklers a bit. I kind of like those kinds of guys as it inspires a lot of their teammates to make the extra effort too in my experience.
Totally funny kman has zero comment on the latest game. Lol

Why do you have to post like an ahole?
My mama always said if you can’t stand the heat, get out of the kitchen!

I have a saying once a trac ahole, always a trac ahole.
Posted by: track

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 10/22/17 06:24 PM

Clearly you are the most disliked poster on this message board. Great achievement.
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 10/22/17 06:52 PM

Originally Posted By: track
Clearly you are the most disliked poster on this message board. Great achievement.
Like the HS HC Beaty says, “earned it!” !! crazy
Posted by: Kman_blue

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 10/22/17 08:28 PM

Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
Originally Posted By: Kman_blue
Originally Posted By: Magicman
I realize that it's a highlight tape, and everyone looks good on those. But, the kid has good size, a strong arm and runs really well. It looks like he has the physical tools to be a player for us. The coaches must like his mental make-up and leadership qualities.
Yeah, the kid is a big QB and he seems to like to punish tacklers a bit. I kind of like those kinds of guys as it inspires a lot of their teammates to make the extra effort too in my experience.
Totally funny kman has zero comment on the latest game. Lol
Wrong again liar.
Posted by: vmlb

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 10/22/17 09:38 PM

Originally Posted By: Jaycat92
I honestly would go the Juco route hard and heavy if I was this staff with what is on this team currently. I would go heavy and big with Juco recruiting.

First find a Dual threat QB, 5 lineman, 3 wide outs, and 1 more running back. Thats jsut on offense

Defense I would find 2 Cb's, 2 Safeties, 4 linebackers and at least 3 lineman. Pretty good start right there.!!


Is that you Charlie??
Posted by: vmlb

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 10/22/17 09:40 PM

Originally Posted By: track
Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
Originally Posted By: Kman_blue
Originally Posted By: Magicman
I realize that it's a highlight tape, and everyone looks good on those. But, the kid has good size, a strong arm and runs really well. It looks like he has the physical tools to be a player for us. The coaches must like his mental make-up and leadership qualities.
Yeah, the kid is a big QB and he seems to like to punish tacklers a bit. I kind of like those kinds of guys as it inspires a lot of their teammates to make the extra effort too in my experience.
Totally funny kman has zero comment on the latest game. Lol

Why do you have to post like an ahole?


If it quacks and walks like a duck, chances are it's a duck.
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 10/23/17 06:28 AM

Originally Posted By: Kman_blue
Originally Posted By: KUCO_VOC
Originally Posted By: Kman_blue
Originally Posted By: Magicman
I realize that it's a highlight tape, and everyone looks good on those. But, the kid has good size, a strong arm and runs really well. It looks like he has the physical tools to be a player for us. The coaches must like his mental make-up and leadership qualities.
Yeah, the kid is a big QB and he seems to like to punish tacklers a bit. I kind of like those kinds of guys as it inspires a lot of their teammates to make the extra effort too in my experience.
Totally funny kman has zero comment on the latest game. Lol
Wrong again liar.
It's all about timing, kman. I now see some comments have been posted. Never thought you would be silent forever...good analysis BTW. Probably accurate if we were to have access to the minds of the brain trust along the sidelines.
Posted by: KUCO_VOC

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 10/23/17 03:45 PM

Originally Posted By: dgless21
0.8778 is his composite ranking. His 247 and Scout ranks are "NA"

If you click the question mark next to 0.8778, you'll get a screen describing "The 247 Composite Rating"



Do better.
Composite team rankings summary INCLUDES the 18 rounding on the left side of your picture for Najee. Individual scout ranks of NA means dik to the composite team ranking on the summary level, smart guy. All TEN commitments have points towards the TOTAL of 141.91... Yes, the team ranks in #80 per 247 site at this point in time.

You need to do better.
Posted by: moose1

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 10/25/17 09:42 PM

When was the last time KU signed a kid from Oklahoma. It seemed like KU used to do better with Oklahoma recruits than Texas recruits. Now it seems like they have abandoned the state.
Posted by: Kman_blue

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 10/26/17 12:16 AM

Originally Posted By: moose1
When was the last time KU signed a kid from Oklahoma. It seemed like KU used to do better with Oklahoma recruits than Texas recruits. Now it seems like they have abandoned the state.
Signed 2 last class and 2 the class before that. Also got a couple walkons from Oklahoma mixed in too.
Posted by: schmuck34

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 10/31/17 02:56 PM

Devonta Jason sporting a lot LSU gear and tweets lately.
Posted by: Kman_blue

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 11/01/17 08:10 AM

Have heard he's worried about whether or not coach Beaty will get fired with the implication being that if Beaty got fired he'd be gone, but if Beaty wasn't fired he'd sign with KU in December.
Posted by: EstebanBugatti

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 11/01/17 01:32 PM

Jason and Harris are gone even if Beaty isn't fired.
Posted by: schmuck34

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 11/01/17 03:39 PM

KU loses to KSU on another Lawrence product as Ekow Boye-Doe commits. https://247sports.com/Player/Ekow-Boye-Doe-46048621
Posted by: Kman_blue

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 11/01/17 04:32 PM

Originally Posted By: EstebanBugatti
Jason and Harris are gone even if Beaty isn't fired.
That's been a popular belief for 9 months now.
Posted by: Kman_blue

Re: Recruiting Class 2018 News, Updates,etc! - 11/02/17 02:00 PM

Originally Posted By: EstebanBugatti
Jason and Harris are gone even if Beaty isn't fired.
Just heard they've both set up their official visit to KU just 2 weeks before the new early NSD.

Also heard